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Terminology Issues - Master's Thesis?


sallysuelovesyou  
Jan 14, 2012 | #1
Question: what do you guys call the large written work one has to hand in at the end of one's studies (Masters), equaling somewhere between 15 - 30 ECTS that is typically between 60 and 120 pages long? I've heard it being called a Master's Thesis, however, I think that the term Master Thesis is also used to refer to papers wrote during one's Master studies in a seminar. Am I mistaken?

thanks in advance
wmst42  1 | 1   Student
Feb 03, 2012 | #2
the paper turned at the end is typically referred to as a Thesis, or a Capstone. the papers written during the program itself are just papers, but they must all have a thesis. did I help confuse you more?
Heremeout  7 | 175   Freelance Writer
Feb 04, 2012 | #3
I would call it a dissertation paper. Of course, there is no difference between the two terminologies i.e.dissertation and thesis paper. A standard thesis or dissertation paper can not be anything less than 30 pages. Just my opinion,please don't take my comment seriously.
OP pheelyks  
Feb 04, 2012 | #4
please don't take my comment seriously

No one takes anything you say seriously, because you don't have a clue what you're talking about and often have trouble saying what you mean regardless.
Heremeout  7 | 175   Freelance Writer
Feb 07, 2012 | #5
pheelyks

ou don't have a clue what you're talking about

Kindly give me the clue
OP pheelyks  
Feb 07, 2012 | #6
Kindly give me the clue

1) A thesis/dissertation can be shorter than thirty pages.
2) You yourself say that these "facts" are just your opinion and not to take them seriously

Why do you even bother posting if you (finally) admit that you don't know what you're talking about?
Heremeout  7 | 175   Freelance Writer
Feb 09, 2012 | #7
A thesis/dissertation can be shorter than thirty pages

Substantiate your claims, and give me some credit for the contribution anyway.You hardly have a point of correction, if not attacking on me as usual.
OP pheelyks  
Feb 09, 2012 | #8
Substantiate your claims

I know many people that have written theses less than 30 pages, and I have yet to find any definition of "thesis" that includes a page limit (min or max).

You hardly have a point of correction

You mean, other than the fact that you're flat-out wrong?
Heremeout  7 | 175   Freelance Writer
Feb 09, 2012 | #9
I know many people that have written theses less than 30 pages

Now I know better why you are confused. It seems you and your league have no idea what a thesis paper entails. It is not a research paper for heavens sake! Neither is it a term paper, report, research proposal or a mere essay. Please be advised Mr. Writer.
OP pheelyks  
Feb 09, 2012 | #10
It is not a research paper for heavens sake!

It certainly can be, depending on the discipline. Apparently you are unaware of what a general term "thesis paper" is.
queen sheba  53 | 648 ☆☆   Observer
Feb 09, 2012 | #11
1) A thesis/dissertation can be shorter than thirty pages.2) You yourself say that these "facts" are just your opinion and not to take them seriouslyWhy do you even bother posting if you (finally) admit that you don't know what you're talking about?

My boy, where's your mom?///WB///
So, today you aren't slaving for your clients?
pheelyks= syphilis = gonorrhea = garbage
OP pheelyks  
Feb 09, 2012 | #12
So, today you aren't slaving for your clients?

If you're asking whether or not I have work to complete for my clients today, the answer is yes. I still find a few minutes here and there to come see what new vulgarities you've come up with in lieu of reasonable/factual statements.

pheelyks= syphilis = gonorrhea = garbage

Thanks for not disappointing.
Heremeout  7 | 175   Freelance Writer
Feb 10, 2012 | #13
I think there is no universally agreed upon length for a thesis or dissertation paper. Pheelyks had no clue about that, poor boy!
MeoKhan  10 | 1357   ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Feb 10, 2012 | #14
It is not a research paper for heavens sake!

Wow. I can see how knowledgeable you are!
Heremeout  7 | 175   Freelance Writer
Feb 11, 2012 | #15
It seems you didn't get my point Mao! Research paper is a general and rather an ambiguous code of reference. It can refer to any scholarly written paper that contains results. Talk of term papers, thesis/dissertation papers, academic papers, all fall under the umbrella of research papers. Apparently, referring to a dissertation paper as a research paper is right, but just because they belong in the same category (research papers),we may be tempted to confuse between a dissertation paper and a term paper- for instance.

As a matter of fact,a dissertation paper is more than just a research paper. How?

Prior to providing "results," you have to explain in details how those results were obtained (Research Methodology). You also have to write down a proposal on how you intend to obtain the "results" (Research Proposal). Basically, the research findings chapter is what qualifies a dissertation paper to be regarded as a research paper.

I "do not flow with the current," and this is precisely why I grossly criticize the idea of referring to a dissertation paper as a research paper. A dissertation paper is by large not a research paper.The debate continues....
MeoKhan  10 | 1357   ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Feb 11, 2012 | #16
You're dealing with these concepts (rather then types of papers!) more in a mathematical way e.g. 2+2=4. However, you must note that there is no one universal definition/explanation for what each of these pieces stands for.

Swales is the pioneering scholar who started working on the analysis of these and other genres of research writing. You know what? It was found that research conventions vary from institutions to institutions, countries to countries, and even from disciplines to disciplines (with the same faculty).

Reading Swales can be enlightening for you so that you stop imposing your knowledge to others "as the absolute truth". There is no absolute truth in the social sciences.

I will not cite the specific publications by Swales. It's your work to find out.

If you read the criticism on research genres in connection to empiricism vs. post-empiricism debates, you'll be surprised to note that Swales left his previously held position on conformity to specific research genres.

You need to find all that out.

Mao!

PS: PLEASE NOTE THAT I WOULD EXPECT YOU TO SHOW MUTUAL RESPECT IF YOU WANT TO ARGUE RATIONALLY. I hope you'd avoid any distortions to that next time.
OP pheelyks  
Feb 11, 2012 | #17
It seems you didn't get my point Mao!

Most of this makes no sense, and what does make sense seems to mean: "all of these phrases are vague and often interchangeable." Brevity os a good thing.

Prior to providing "results," you have to explain in details how those results were obtained (Research Methodology).

This does not apply to all dissertations, and does apply to some things that aren't dissertations.

The debate continues....

There's no debate here. There's you saying, "I get to make up my own definitions for things," and others saying, "You're a crazy idiot." We're all right.
Heremeout  7 | 175   Freelance Writer
Feb 12, 2012 | #18
PLEASE NOTE THAT I WOULD EXPECT YOU TO SHOW MUTUAL RESPECT IF YOU WANT TO ARGUE RATIONALLY.

This is uncalled for! If anything,you should show some respect for your superiors.

Most of this makes no sense

Most of these..."make no sense."

Brevity os a good thing.

Yes, brevity is..."a good thing."
OP pheelyks  
Feb 13, 2012 | #19
I'm not sure if you're trying to correct me and failing or simply repeating thins with ellipses because you're all out of bulls-i*.
Heremeout  7 | 175   Freelance Writer
Feb 13, 2012 | #20
Dear Writer,
After reading your previous posts under this thread, I was so pissed off. It is unfortunate you still can't see the silly mistakes you made. My persistent attempts to help you realize your weaknesses in grammar has beard absolutely no fruit.

Brevity os a good thing.

Your first weakness.

Most of this makes no sense

If I were to rewrite the sentence above in a grammatical way, it would be this way:

Most of these make no sense.

Here is what I mean:

Most of this makes no sense: (Grammatically INCORRECT)
Most of these make no sense: (Grammatically CORRECT)

I suggest you find yourself another job, this writing business is too much for you buddy.
OP pheelyks  
Feb 13, 2012 | #21
I understood what you meant the first time (not a frequent occurrence, I admit). You're wrong, however, and an idiot. These two sentences mean different things, and both are grammatically correct.

"Most of this makes no sense" refers to the conversation as a whole: "Most of this conversation makes no sense." Conversation isn't necessary to make the sentence work, I've only included it so you can see that you're an idiot.

"Most of these make no sense" would refer to each individual post: "Most of these posts make no sense." Again, "posts" is not necessary, and you're an idiot.
Heremeout  7 | 175   Freelance Writer
Feb 18, 2012 | #22
Most of this conversation makes no sense."

I think you should go back to school to be taught English. Your grammar "stinks!"
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
Apr 01, 2021 | #23
The paper written at the end of a masters course to qualify one for graduation is more commonly referred to as a thesis. Dissertation, as a reference point, is normally used for PhD and higher studies. It's no big deal. You can call the final paper a thesis and nobody will argue with you about it. The people here just like arguing over the smallest differences, which is supposed to make them appear more intelligent than they actually are.
noted  11 | 2087 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Jun 19, 2022 | #24
The writing requirements for a PhD paper reflect a higher level of intellectual ability, academic understanding, and research skills. That complexity is what changed its name from a thesis to a dissertation paper. A masters thesis is still at the collegiate level of writing that only requires evidence of proper research and the ability to defend your work before the thesis committee if necessary for graduation. Granted the same is required for a disseration but again, we have to refer to the level of studies and research done to differentiate the two. Do not bother confusing yourself with terminology. What the paper is called does not matter if you cannot turn in a graduation worthy final paper to your professor where and when it matters.
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