What do you think of the growing number of suspicious writers posting on essaychat?

There has been a surge of writers posting on essaychat recently. I have noticed that writer(s) posting on essaychat sound suspicious, with others advertising that clients can pay for assignments once the writer(s) are through, others charge lower rates that seem to be suspicious or spam forums. The writers also advertise their services on this forum, hence, breaking forum rules. Clients, how do you expect to receive assignments from such writers when following simple forum rules/instructions is a problem? Scammers in this business are increasing at an alarming rate. Take caution when approaching such writers.

A good piece of observation, indeed.

Those providing work at very low rates are bound to scam someone or the other

Basically there are a lot of people in developing countries who would like to earn U.S. dollars/British pounds because those currencies go a long way in their local economies. So the essay industry is an attractive prospect for them. In most cases, I don't think they want to scam you. I think they will give it their all on your essay, but in most cases their English just isn't up to the job, so you probably won't get a very good great. It's an issue of competence, not integrity. There are several good writers and companies on this forum. I do not think any of them are trying to compete based on price.

Yeah I noticed this too on Essaychat-so many blatantly fraudulent writers-though I chose one that seems legit. Hopefully Ive not been scammed, will find out in a few hours.

On the contrary, I think their motives are latent even to themselves because they believe in themselves too much. Consequently, they become incompetent!

Update: I just received my work of the writer on Essaychat and its very, very good indeed and totally original im pleased to report. Well Chuffed, excellent job :)

I think some of the writers are good.

"suspicious writers" is redundant

There are many people from India, Pakistan, Malaysia who are superb! in bringing the quality work with-in the constraints, limitations of time and other writing requirements. I have been dealing with many of them lately, found few reliable writers and companies as well. But again, never expect too much they also contains the limitation of knowledge and resources until professionally trained and dedicated to do so. But over-all, Pakistan and India are the best for my experience so far. reasonable prices and reasonable work. Just be sure you follow the basic rules of filtering out the scams out. :)

You're comparing apples and oranges because the two things have absolutely nothing to do with one another: the same way breaking the posted speed limit on the way to work has nothing to do with whether or not a businessman is legitimate or fraudulent in his business practices. In fact, the connection is even weaker than the speeding businessman because speeding involves actually breaking a law whereas breaking the posting rules of any Internet forum does not. Still, it's silly to suggest that nobody should trust a businessman to honor his client relationships or to respect the laws governing his business because he regularly "breaks laws" of the road. I've previously admitted to breaking the rules of this forum, and I've been punished for it, and I've stopped doing it; but I've never been accused of violating the trust of any of my clients.


Just out of curiosity, are you one of the people in your organization who determine whether or not job applicants can write clearly in fluent English?

I find it hard to determine which are the legitimate writers and who are the scammers.

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Most US based firms hire Pakistani and Indian writers because they produce quality work at a cheap price. Agreed that they are not trained professionally but they do learn the art of academic writing with experience. Plus the Internet helps them tremendously. I am one such writer. Agreed many dont write correct english but then selecting a quality writer is up to the customer. He should interact with the writer a few times on a personal basis as in exchange emails and then gauge his english standard and level of commitment if the intention is to hire a freelance writer and not through a firm. Most of these writers will work better if the customers gives them the appropriate instructions throughout the paper progress. That way he can better match the requirements as every paper has to be customized.

Alas, therein lies the rub. In too many cases, we receive limited instructions and we do our best to interpret them since clients rely on our expertise. After they receive a finely crafted piece of work, though, everyone turns into an expert and tells us what is wrong and what we missed and how could we be so stupid to ignore this or that. Jeez. If we let them, they will abuse us unto severity. Stand your ground and demand more money before you sneeze on it again.

In my experience, most US firms do NOT hire Pakistani writers at all. Many uneducated foreign writers seem to think that their quality is up to the same standards as highly qualified native writers when this simply isn't the case.

Why Kenya writers suddenly became so active on Essaychat?

Has it always been like this or have they become more desperate and hence more aggressive?

Hello everyone , i am looking for assistance on LLB LAW in the UK. i am in my first year and study online so i have all resources so that you could access. I suffer from dyslexia and the person who used to assist me has had personal issues . i will work in conjunction with a writer but i need help bc of my dyslexia if your interested pleas do contact me and hopefully we can make a long term partnership . to secure both of us i will only pay via paypal and i need a sample of work from you .

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Raging extortion ring on EssayChat

In the last two weeks I came in contact with two students who were scammed. The origin of the scam is Nairobi (or so I was told). I did not investigate, but I believed at least one of the two students. The scammers, I was told, finish the order, and then ask for large sums in order to keep the clients privacy - somewhere around Ł500.

I implore students to
- not give their personal information to writers (situation is different with companies, I know, but there's a post somewhere about that)
- not use their own PayPal address for fund transfer (at least not in the first go, later, when trust is established there's little to fear)

- use extreme caution when ordering for the first time - order only small paper at first (this advice has been given repeatedly on this site, but still)

IF ANYONE HAS ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THIS SCAM RING, PLEASE SHARE IT HERE

IF ANYONE HAS ANY USEFUL ADVICE ON HOW TO AVOID SCAMS SHARE IT HERE.

and finally, if anyone has a burning desire to trash this post...go ahead. This is meant only as a warning for students, to help them avoid scams.

Not surprising at all.


I've heard a similar story, but there are two sides of it. The most important part is that a client refuses to pay because he/she thinks the final paper is not worth the money. The writer thinks otherwise and a dispute begins.

Yeah, that can be a pain, and it can put a strain on relationship between the writer and the client. Nevertheless, extortion (in the sense that I was led to understand in this particular case) is never a viable option. Again, whether or not the story is true I cannot say, since I have no evidence. All I know is what I was told - by two separate sources. I believe one of them, the other not so much.

I'll leave investigation to others, who may have interest in such things, as I have neither the time nor the will to conduct it.

In any case, STUDENTS - stay on your toes at all times.

Kenyan writers are very aggressive in the market because it appears that there is not much of a market for a regular 9-5 office job in their country. Scamming students through essay writing services is their answer to their earning problems and making themselves high profile in social media and forums such as these help to serve their purpose of advertising their "services" and heightening their "profile" in a "respectable" sense. Students who deal with them go into these negotiations with open eyes and delicate agreements. Some of these writers will deliver, most of them won't. These will be hard learned lessons for the students. EssayScam does their best to make sure that these con artists do not stay on the site for long. However, they can't work fast enough to accomplish the task as they really are proliferating the market. I just hope that eventually, these Kenyan con people will find a different avenue to work in and the essay writing industry will be able to repair the damage these Kenyans have done to the industry over time.

I do see an upswing in Kenyan writer activities on various boards these days. I guess they are trying to take advantage of the slow season / summer vacation to build their future / upcoming school year client base. From the looks of it though, it appears that they have not improved their grammar and writing skills. I base that on the simple posts that they produce at different websites where they spend their time appealing for students to hire them on the spot. Oftentimes they just get kicked off the board and their posts deleted anyway.

Try as hard as they might, it is still next to impossible for a majority of them to achieve proper international writing standards. So they really invest blood, sweat, and tears into their work usually to no avail. I wish they would learn that there are just some job markets that they are just not cut out for, high level academic writing included.

I've seen some fairly good work by Kenyan writers in the past, though granted it hasn't been very often. A few of the Kenyan writers I've encountered have been brilliant and their writing was good, but (yes, there's always a but) there are always distinguishing areas in the writing that point to the work not being written by a native English-speaking writer.

You know, I really don't understand why companies that insist on hiring ESL writers don't, at the very least, have an native English-speaking writer or editor review before sending an order to the customer. Maybe there are some that do (surely there are??), but I haven't heard of it. If it were me, that's what I would do and I would also send the edited version to the ESL writer to show what was changed (i.e. learning tool). Personally and professionally, I am not the type of person to knock it if that's the job/profession a person wants to pursue, but if you are determined to be a writer (regardless of ethnicity), then always (ALWAYS) strive to improve. If you know your writing skills aren't up to par, work on changing that and don't take projects you know are above your current level.

In my experience, they do not, because that would involve too much time with the volume of work companies produce. Typically, some of them just run all of their writers' projects (automatically) through some plagiarism scanner and programs that flag any emails or phone numbers to prevent writers and customers from establishing direct contact. They're not reading through projects unless or until there's some specific complaint from a customer.

Kenyan writers seem to have lowered their profile as writers at the moment. In fact, most of the third world writers seem to have been sidelined by the Covid - 19 situation. It appears that these 3rd rate writers were working out of internet kiosks or coffee shops. Since the lock-down happened, they haven't had any access to computer rentals, where they mostly do their "jobs" from. Since not everyone there can afford to properly work from home, they probably decided to take a vacation and wait out the virus. Which means they are spending whatever money they earned prior to the lock-down. So expect them to be back with a vengeance, scamming the students and blackmailing them at levels we cannot imagine because they ran out of cash over the lock-down months.

Essay Chat seems to have had some pretty interesting posts over the past 3 months. Students looking for writers and writers trying to get back into the game are using the chat specifically for these purposes. Students have been using it to find writers. I have not seen any sign of Kenyan writers posting this year. The client recruitment post disguised as an interview is from one of the formerly active writers at this forum. I guess he left when it became clear that clients cannot be enticed anymore using old school ploys to get students to reach out to the writer.

I haven't tried using EssayChat for my papers yet. Is that truly a way of finding a legitimate writer? How safe is it to have these writers contact you directly after you place the preliminary requirements of the paper in the chat? Are they affordable and more importantly, are they any good at their jobs? Can someone vouch for the quality of writing coming from the freelances in that site? I do not see any interaction there between the student and the writer. There was only 1 post from 2025 and the rest are from 2024. So is that chat still active? How does it work? Can someone explain it to me?

I've been searching for the same thing until I met a nice guy on reddit, conversation is nice and the work is fantastic. spam removed, you can try them out, pretty professional writer. So far, we're smooth.

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