When a writing company lies, what can be done?

When writing company lies about location or credential of writers - what is best way to shut it down? Or it can lie to their clients without freely? If company can lie and go away with it then they will do it.

You cannot shut it down. This forum comes up high in Google searches for essay-related topics, so you just post here about the company's failings, and anyone searching for it by name will see your negative feedback.

So there is no legal business rules in online business?

I'm sure there are, but enforcement is always the issue when you're in one country and the company is in another.

That certainly is the main stumbling block.

What's important to note, however, is that ALL of the following TLDs (top level domain names) are controlled by ICANN, which is a US-based organization that is bound by US law and, therefore, any legal ruling by a US court:

.com
.net
.org
.us
.info
and many others.

This means that, regardless of a fraudulent site owner's geographical location and a registrar's or Web host's potential refusal to take action against a fraudulent domain/site, any US Court Order specifically directing ICANN to disable and/or permanently "lock" the domain in question will render irrelevant all other obstacles in a victim's path to justice.

NOTE: The plaintiff should make certain to attach ALL of the fraudulent company's different Web sites to any request for locking/disabling so that the Judge can quickly and easily sign-off on such a directive to ICANN.

I forgot to mention-and this is VERY important-that a Court Order directing ICANN to lock/disable the domain(s) will render powerless any offshore host/registrar that a fraudster may be using specifically to shelter his/her sites from US jurisdiction.

I see it. I also propose that Ukrainian essay scammers can be only allowed to use their country domain code. So their sites can only be like (Ukraine domain is ending with .ua):

customwritings.ua
essayshark.ua
buyessay.ua

et. For now they steal British and US domains (.co.uk and .com) and cheat clients that they are from UK or US.

It is better to checked the website before ordering.

Just like all other businesses online that is based on fraud, it is next to impossible to shut the company down. The academic writing industry, due to the very nature of the business, is not regulated like other companies that have to answer to higher authorities when they misrepresent themselves in public. The only way that the company can be shut down is by not patronizing its services. Eventually, the current owner loses so much money trying to keep the business afloat that he ends up selling the now almost worthless company (due a lack of clients) to another con artist who then changes the name of the company, but retains most of what made the company a bad deal to begin with. The only way to combat the existence of these lying and fraudulent companies is by exposing their ills in the best way possible. That means, any student who goes through an assignment from hell with these companies should come to the ES and immediately lambast them, openly, in the appropriate section on the forum.

As is the case with other types of businesses, if it seems too good to be true, it almost always is; and to the extent that's the case even when the industry is well regulated, it's even more true in a totally unregulated industry, such as this one.

Are there any totally legit essay companies that will actually provide the essay that you order? Definitely. I wrote thousands of essays for some of them. Unfortunately, they're far-outnumbered by the scam companies.

Are there any good writers working at legit essay companies? Definitely. I wrote for some of them for many years, along with several other very good writers who, like me, have since either transitioned to working independently or moved on to different careers. Generally, writing academic essays for hire isn't something that many people who can write well enough to be any good at it continue doing for many years. More typically, they just do it while they're in grad school themselves or in between more traditional types of jobs.

You always need to read their websites with your BS-detector set to very high. Here are a few reasons why that's true:

1. There's no such thing as any essay company that "only" employs writers with "advanced degrees." Some writers might have advanced degrees in one field; most do not. None of them only writes projects in the same specific academic field as his or her formal educational degree.

2. Your projects do not get "assigned" to a writer with a degree (much less an "advanced" degree) in the specific field of your particular project. Even at the best of the legitimate essay companies, all assignments simply get posted on an assignment board where they can be taken by any writer on a first-come/first-served basis. Nobody "assigns" projects to specific writers and there's no process to monitor what projects are taken by whom in real time. Writers (especially newer ones) often vastly overestimate their abilities and the company only hears about it after customers start complaining. At the best companies, writers who produce lousy work just get terminated after enough complaints pile up, which doesn't do you much good if you already received work from one of those writers. [I've read (here) that some companies restrict their inexperienced writers from more advanced types of projects, but I've never seen such a system personally. The only company for which I ever wrote that had different classifications of writers recruited me directly from this forum and started me off at the highest level; so, I have no idea whether writers at lower classifications saw fewer available projects than I saw or just got paid less for the same projects.]

3. There's no such thing as any "money-back guarantee if you're not satisfied."

4. There's no such thing as "unlimited free revisions."

5. You cannot judge the likely quality (or even basic legitimacy) of any company by the quality and/or functionality of the website. Some of the worst scam companies out there have beautifully-designed websites and interactive "chat" systems with representatives. They'll spare no expense on their websites and no amount of kind patience or effort with your questions and concerns prior to your order, and they'll give you all of the most-reassuring answers necessary to gain your trust. They can afford to do this, because gaining your trust and convincing you to place an order is their only real function. Once they have your money, their job is done, as is their interest in responding to your concerns in any real way. If you have a complaint about your essay after receiving it, you'll find out immediately that the overly-polite helpfulness that you encountered prior to the sale and relied on in choosing that company was turned off like a light switch the instant your payment went through.

6. No essay company actually has any "professors" writing essays for them.

7. You get what you pay for. If English is your natural language, don't expect an essay that's going to be useful to you for $10 or $15 or $20/pg.

As I've suggested many times, whether you try out an essay company or an independent freelance writer, always start with a very small project first or with a small section of a larger project. Start that process as early in the school term as possible, because if you wait until a few days before a large project is due, you won't have that option.

That's patently false, and I'm pretty darn sure you realize it. You just mentioned that you worked for a legit, American company for years. Guess what -- that company still charges $18/page, the exact same price at which you wrote hundreds of papers.

I guess an important thing is worth mentioning here: the delivery date. I can imagine a writing service or a freelance writer may advertise: "We only charge $5 per page*"

* - when Delivery Date is 365 days or longer

Would advertising $5 per page be truthful? It would. Would it be honest? It would definitely not. I've also noticed some "American" or "UK" companies have dropped their prices a little without mentioning they work with ESL writers.. but that's another story.

Wow. Quite dirty. Since you directly quoted me, why don't you provide proof to support your bold, knowingly false assertion against a direct competitor?


Proof, please.

What kind of proof do you need? My point was that I hope you would be perfectly fine if a legitimate writing service advertised that their prices start from $5 per page (if delivered within a year).

It's been a long time since I checked the customer-facing websites of any of your dozen or more companies or "affiliated" companies. To the best of my recollection, the cheapest price of their essays a few years ago was $24.95/pg for long deadlines, but I acknowledge that I could be wrong about that, although not deliberately at all. Having just checked a couple of them in response to this comment, I see that one of those websites now charges $18/pg for projects with a 1-month deadline and another of them charges $18/pg for projects with a two-week deadline; and both of them charge $39/pg for projects with short deadlines.

However, I wrote very few projects for any of your companies that weren't very short deadlines, because the company rule prohibiting writers from taking only short-deadline assignments was never mentioned, much less ever enforced, at least in my case. The vast majority of the thousands of orders I wrote for your companies were 1-day or 2-day deadlines for which I believe your companies now charge at least $30/pg. Like some of the best and most experienced essay-company writers I know, unless cheaper longer-term projects were exceptionally easy or required only a page or less of writing, I almost always totally avoided any of those projects for which customers were billed $18/pg, because the writer payout for me was only $10/pg and only $8/pg for newer and/or less-experienced writers. The only reason that some of those orders were sometimes worth taking (at least for me) was that admin implemented my suggestion about instituting a 2-page minimum on all orders in 2008 or 2009; so after that, there were quite a few projects for only a single page of writing (or less) that were billed to customers at $18/pg x 2 pages even though they were actually only 1-pg projects, meaning their actual cost to the customer was at least $36, even for just one page of writing(or, sometimes, for just a half-page) with long deadlines.

Your original post makes no sense. If a company openly and truthfully charges $5/page for 365-day delivery, there is absolutely nothing "dishonest" about that practice. The company will rarely-if ever-make a sale, which makes your post even more silly.

Ok, so $5/page within a year is honest advertising.. despite the fact there might be one such order per decade.. ok I get it. If something (in theory) can happen, it's good to go. Honest business ;) Something like hiring a retired PhD contractor who may write one page per year and advertising that <our team of 600 writers includes PhDs> (when there is only one dormant PhD in the 'team' and the rest are just ESL college dropouts from suspicious countries). It's not referring to you, but such reasoning only gives hints to the fraudsters on how to stay 'legal' and be dishonest at the same time.

You are obviously misunderstanding my point.

While it is easy for a client to prove that the company is a sham and is lying about its location, the client may not necessarily want to press any charges against the company. For one thing, where will be lawsuit be filed? If the client is in the USA and the company is claiming to the US based but investigations prove it is in Uganda, what then? Will the client go all the way to Uganda to file a suit? Exactly. It would just be frivolous lawsuit in that instance and no client would have the finances to take the company to court.

However, clients do not need to do that. The national government of the country where the company claims to be located normally ends up suing these con artists on behalf of the clients once they get enough evidence to file suit. So while the company may get away with the con for a while, they won't get away with it forever.

Just a few points to address the post above:

1. "Pressing charges" and "lawsuits" are two totally different things: the former refers to criminal matters and the latter refers to civil matters.

2. In this country, lying about a company's location is rarely considered "material" to your agreement or any dispute with most types of business and it's essentially irrelevant with respect to companies providing services delivered online. Many American companies (of all sorts) aren't incorporated anywhere close to where they're actually located. More American companies are probably incorporated in Delaware than in any other state and they have nothing actually situated in Delaware besides a rented mailbox.

3. A "frivolous" lawsuit is one without any legal merit. A lawsuit that isn't worth pursuing because of the cost in relation to the amount of the dispute is futile, not "frivolous."

4. Most of the worst scam companies in this industry are located either in Third-World countries with collapsed or totally corrupt governments or in Second-World countries whose governments already have their hands more than full just providing basic government administration. In this country, the government doesn't take up civil lawsuits "on behalf" of ripped-off customers, even in industries that are highly regulated and licensed. They may eventually prosecute them criminally for various types of consumer fraud; but that's not really much help to ripped-off consumers. Usually, by the time authorities take any action, the companies have already moved on to a different incorporated name. When it comes to totally unregulated industries, the government isn't getting involved in their disputes with their customers.

As prospective customers, just focus on doing your due diligence before choosing a provider rather than worrying about how to retaliate against them after getting ripped off.

Due to the rate by which these companies change their company names and url's, one might think that a company went belly-up. Very few realize that the company simply redefined itself in terms of company name and services. It still retains the same owners, writers, and lousy service. A company may consider doing this when it gets to the point where the complaints far outweigh the compliments the writers receive. If the company also receives way too many refund requests, it will change identities. So the lies continue to flourish, just under a different image. The writing companies have been doing the switcheroo for decades now. None of them really shut down. They merely move the goal post to be able to continue playing the game.

All the more reason that one of the most important criteria that prospective clients should consider is the length of time that companies and writers have been doing business under the same name and/or forum ID. In that regard, when it comes to company websites, don't trust what those websites say about how long they've been in business, because they can lie about that as easily as they can lie about anything else. Instead, use the "wayback" machine or whois.com to see for yourself how long any website has really been in existence under its current name.

There is no legimitate way of filing a case in the country of registration of the company that will allow a complainant to shut it down. Such a process would require international lawyers and a hefty amount of money on the part of the complainant. I have never heard of a company shut down using such a process as of now. However, the companies have shut themselves down for other reasons as far as I know. While the client may wish they could do something to shut down the company, it just isn't possible when the client and the company are located in 2 different areas of the world.