Writing Services and PayPal Warning

Be aware. If you pay with Paypal to these writing services, Pay Pal will never REFUND your money. It is like they support these scam artists.

The only way to make sure you get a refund is to file a complaint with paypal, when they turn you down for a refund (paypal is low life scum bads too),

Hopefully you were smart enough to use your "credit card" through paypal. Call your credit card company, report the fraud, and they will overturn the charge from Paypal, and then paypal will take it from the crooks.

in the process of following this course of action.

Please could you advise as to what sort of paper work to attain as proofs / evidence for the credit card company. paid through paypal with visa, currently dealing with visa disputes and fraud and have been requested to mail them supporting evidence etc.

after filing a dispute with paypal and escalating to a claim essayacademia.com quickly sent me a terrible script. i guess they are trying to justify having delivered service/order. account on their website has been deleted, where order details were held with exception to very brief and vague email correspondence not stipulating anything specific

I've paid for about 5-10 essays thru Paypal and they refuse to refund me because they claim that they can't make any judgements about the quality as long as the product is delivered. Meaning that if you ask for a paper about WW2 and get something about the sitcom Seinfeld instead, that would count as a delivered product............

Or if there is one mis-spelled word in an entire fifty page dissertation, that would count as a delivered product too.

The difficulty is that there is some inherent amount of subjectivity. It's not like a car where the car can be identified to be broken or not: It's a continuous, not a discrete, product.

please don't blame PayPal because you are too dumb to cancel a credit card order.

Takerone is not to be taken seriously and is, in no way, believable.

Read his/her posts :)

please if you could respond to my post and offer any advice where you can. i am asking as you appear to be quite learned on such issue.

Yeah, no s*t.

Avoid any site that offers PayPal as the ONLY payment option. PayPal provides no protections for virtual goods.

Are there any safe payment options? I have never used anything except PayPal.

There are quite a few e-commerce payment processors like PayPal. You should google it. I wouldn't want to mention any of them here because I don't want to sound like their 'paid agent'. :-P

No payment processors that I know of offer decent protections for intangible goods--there's risk on both sides.

thanks

You're welcome.

Is it really safe to send money from you card for work, what if i wont get my paper?

Well I must say that Paypal is one of the best services which are very pro customers. I am not a representative of paypal but working in an assignment help providing company I have seen issues being raised and paypal taking decisions in favor of clients.

If you have your emails conversations well placed you can raise an issue with paypal and they certainly give a fair decision.

Hope this was helpful

Thanks,
David

Vanessa, there will be proof of communication that you can make the service provider. In case of non-delivery you can contact the law enforcement authorities, where these services are located and tip them off. In most cases, you will get positive response when you continue to pursue.

Papa PayPal... So much has been dumped on this forum but looks like people do not have a go to go for the search option...!

News for ESL Writers and Fraudsters: Big development at PayPal regarding virtual goods and services

As of July 1, 2015, PayPal will expand "Buyer Protections" to include intangibles like digital items and services.


SOURCE: paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/ua/upcoming-policies-full

Hey, fraudsters and ESL hacks, your days of defrauding customers via PayPal are over.

It's good news for customers, but what about legitimate freelance writers / writing services; they may experience more problems caused by professional liars / tricksters.

Legitimate companies should not experience any significant impact, as long as they maintain proof that the material:

1. is not "significantly not as described";
2. was delivered to and/or downloaded by the customer (proof will be necessary, of course).

Having been a long time user of Paypal myself, both as a seller and a buyer, I know that the company does their best to "balance" the problem transaction investigations. I found though, that the problems with getting refunds from sellers are best avoided simply by being familiar with the clue that Paypal provides to indicate the potential for a problem transaction. If the billing sent to you comes from an "unverified" seller, it would be best to not proceed with the transaction. That is because Paypal uses a verification system to create an aura of "trust" for the seller signed up with them. Without it, all transactions with that particular seller is suspect. While there are other e-payment options available these days, I think that, due to the track record of Paypal, most people still see companies that transact through that system as "trustworthy" to a larger extent. These days, the academic companies are forced to make good on the Paypal charge back / refund requests because of the strong possibility that they can lose their PayPal seller status. As the other e-payment channels develop, both sides can expect further developments from PayPal and similar collection agencies that try to protect both sides in some way.

I wouldn't be too positive about Paypal; their 'problem transaction investigation' is seriously inadequate. The best part about it is the ability to communicate directly through their system with the unsatisfied customer (that way it's ensured they actually read your messages), but anything else are just automated robo-messages which falsely claim they have actually 'investigated' something, when in fact their robo-system is set up to automatically close a dispute after a certain action.

I'd assume that 80% of all Paypal 'investigations' are not being read at all by a human; they may only be read when the dispute is 'escalated' but even then I doubt more than half of those disputes are actually reviewed by a human. Sure, they send nice and reassuring messages about 'investigations' and 'case progress,' but that's typically about all they do (ie. send automatic emails without humans involved).

@Major I agree that they have these automated fill out forms that come as part of their investigation process. Lord knows I've filled out enough of those during my time as a seller. You are right in assuming that certain responses or actions trigger an automated response, but I do not believe it is at the same rate that you mentioned. From my experience, calling their hotline number actually gets you a human on the other end who is ready to help you out. The only problem with their hotline system is that one requires the patience of a saint to get a human on the other end because of all the hoops you have to jump through just to get that option. I got to talk to a "human" (after numerous tries and countless hours of being on "hold")who could take care of my inquiries and submission requirements. I do not doubt that the "escalated" disputes also get read by a human as someone has to file a record of the communication and choose which of the company's response templates to send out. The robo system can only take them so far in removing the human element from the job.

The only reason that I sound so positive about Paypal is simple. The company practically pioneered the business of e-payment collections and I have had a good relationship with them as a conduit for my salary collection. I had a rocky relationship with them when I was a seller of physical products due to the "chargeback" system. The dispute usually got triggered because products mailed out got delayed in terms of delivery when the buyer did not opt for a courier service and requested US postal mail services instead.

Since Paypal no longer deals with academic writing companies and independent writers, why is this thread still on the forum? Shouldn't it be removed due to irrelevance already? Writers and companies have moved on to other payment services. Services that are far more reliable, less complicated to deal with, and available in more countries than Paypal. Paypal is nothing but a relic of the past. They are no longer relevant in today's digital society. Students, writing companies, and writers can continue doing business the simpler way, without having to deal with the constantly increasing Paypal transfer fees. I believe that it is about time that this thread was locked by the administrators of this forum.

Technically, Paypal now deals directly with writing services under the banner of their "digital services" payment channel. This is the loophole that brought the writing companies back to Paypal and also, allows PayPal to deal directly with errant writing companies and independent writers. Although, Paypal is no longer the sole payment system in play anymore these days. It is starting to wane in popularity due to their high service fees. This has made alternative channels like Payoneer more attractive to the people involved.

Before PayPal extended buyer protection to digital services, a lot of customers got burned when they filed (otherwise) legitimate disputes that were summarily denied because buyer protection didn't cover digital services.