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Lavinia   
Sep 15, 2007

Latvina (I believe you are a non-Native English speaker, I think, anyways) and a few others I have come across actually understand the language because they have worked very hard to do so.

do you mean me? if so, i guess i should respond to clarify that i am a native speaker, born in sweet home chicago (go white sox!). i read French and i'm currently learning German, but neither with great proficiency. Fae, you seem like a sweet person from your posts. i hope you have been having better luck with writing companies.

WB- you missed Puerto Rico?!?! Do you treat Puerto Ricans differently?!?!?! Don't even TRY to cover up by saying Puerto Rico isn't a country!!!

debunking the myth of being educated American writers necessarily leads to discussing the true nation of origin of these frauds. the racism charges are just trumped up ad homs. if you became nicer, this board would be boring.
Lavinia   
Sep 15, 2007

WB doesn't need me to defend her so i won't do that.

while i do understand that her abrasive style may rub some the wrong way, i seriously think that some of you have screwed up priorities. you'll post to criticize WB for being rude but you stay silent when crooks post defending their unethical business practices? eh? she's bagging on frauds and you think she should be nicer? come on...

boards like this benefit from having enforcer, no-nonsense types. the good of her posts outweigh the bad.
Lavinia   
Sep 10, 2007

I be from India, but I saw you making fun of writers from our country also in other thread.

I just wanted to point out that my mocking of poor writing skill is race neutral. i don't know the origin of EWwriter or anyone else on this board. i've always found glaring grammar mistakes pretty grating, regardless of the background of the writer (or speaker... unless there is a sexy accent involved). i correct my little sister too and i'm pretty sure i can't really be discriminatory against her background since it matches my own.

and posing to be an expert at anything when one is clearly not is the most worthy subject of mocking that i can imagine. the lesson is clear: don't be a poser.

having earned a Ph.D. in English from U.C. Berkeley.

i almost went to law school at U.C. Berkeley but then i realized there are too many hippies =p
Lavinia   
Sep 08, 2007

if you think this is a verbal victory for you, then you're just deluding yourself.

you do a real disservice to the term "racism" by using it in such a flippant and transparent manner. way to entrench the very system you claim to oppose.

i guess discrimination is ok if it comes with a paycheck.
Lavinia   
Sep 07, 2007

I know and like I said, that's none of my concern.

how can you possibly claim moral relativism as a defense when you accuse WB of racism? your company props up that very discriminatory system that you mock WB for when it lies about your qualifications. you're directly supporting that system by working for them. frankly, i think companies like yours make ESL writers look even worse than the present system of discrimination that you're apparently trying to overcome. your company says ESL writers are inferior to native English writers in its marketing and therefore reinforces that discrimination. In addition, your company makes ESL writers look not only incompetent, but unscrupulous and dishonest too.

seriously, that's ridiculous. would you work for a company that claims to only hire white people? do you figure that would be an issue for the lawyers to sort out? how can you not see the contradiction? it's the same application of the racist accusation but for some reason you only think it applies to people who don't pay you. it's exactly that level of hypocracy that prevents potentially sympathetic people like myself from defending you. it's doesn't matter anymore if you're a good writer or not.
Lavinia   
Sep 06, 2007

What do you think Lavinia? Do you also believe that you're better than most of us ESL writers at writing non-fictional papers in English by virtue of your having English as a native language?

what is it with the personal baiting? it's a pathetic argumentative strategy. are you upset that i haven't given you anything to justify an accusation of racism yet?

how does one define better? in dollars and cents? if so, i guess i am better. I demand higher compensation and I get it. all other things being completely equal, i do believe that being a native American English speaker makes me a better writer for American English essays. Just as, I suspect, you would be better in writing for your own local population.

hey, I have an idea. Why don't I stick to writing for American audiences and you write for your own nation's population? No deal? I'm not surprised. American and British students have more money to spend, so instead of being honest about your background or catering to your local student population, your companies try to pass you off as a native English speaker in order to appeal to this more affluent consumer base and get more money.

but hey, i'll bite. if i'm doing a point by point comparison of just you and me based upon the little available information, i'd feel pretty comfortable making two points.

a. i'd say i'm more honest. i don't prop up a dishonest company by working with them and i don't condone their lying to the public. you, on the other hand, play this weird schizophrenic game in which you allow your bosses to lie about your qualifications and then you post on msgboards attempting to talk yourself up. an inferiority complex perhaps?

b. i'd also say i'm a tad more intelligent. i get paid 2-3x more than you for fullfillment of the same duties. i don't work for companies who reserve the right to penalize my pay and i don't work for companies that fail to pay regularly. all these demands and i still get plenty of work. how can that be? it can't be because of my qualifications and skill can it? heck, if you're right and i'm less qualified than you are, i'd say i'm looking like a marketing genius for getting my work better compensated.

i'd say the same thing to you that i'd say to any writer working for one of these crooks. get some self-respect and work for someone who treats you and the client professionally.
Lavinia   
Sep 06, 2007

ugh so much to read. i hope you don't mind me skipping the line by line. if i missed anything really important i'll try to catch up later in the thread.

there are many elements to writing a good essay, such as subject knowledge, language knowledge and writing skill. it's not racist for American students to want writers educated in America to write their papers. the vernacular spelling and word choice will be different. the standards and expectations of different school systems will also differ. as a writer, i don't put in to write a British English paper and i frankly find it disingenous for a writer to attempt to pretend that such regional variations don't exist or to accuse those who acknowledge these differences as racist.

qualifications and education do matter. i didn't pull my examples out of thin air entirely. a publishing company interested in putting out a non-fiction book (serious nonfiction, not celebrity gossip or autobiographies etc) will always look for qualified authors, ie authors with creds, b/c that is what the public expects.

in the end, EW your posts give me cognitive dissonance. you appear intelligent and claim to be qualified, yet you work for and vociferously defend a company that periodically fails to pay its writers, makes up fraudulent reasons to deduct from their pay and also lies to its customers. why do you support them? it doesn't add up.
Lavinia   
Sep 06, 2007

their opinions would be helpful in establishing a much contested issue regarding the existence of sites like ew

what does that even mean?

you work for a poorly managed company that lies in its marketing concerning the qualifications of its employees and now you're asking the public about the very issue that your company lies about? why? to see if that lie is financially justified? to see if maybe the company doesn't have to lie anymore to keep its customers incoming? i mean... come on...
Lavinia   
Sep 05, 2007

why would i need statistics if you're willing to concede that my point is true?

please note that your post has been up now for 3 days and has only garnered the interest of two writers. you surely don't think that any posts from individuals claiming to be customers who post on this thread would be representative of the total consumer market. at best, you'll get a couple of advocates that you can use as lip service in the ongoing war between you and WB.
Lavinia   
Sep 05, 2007

EW: 2 points

1. why sell yourself short? if you truly believe that the product you put out is equal to, or better than, more expensive products written by guaranteed native english speakers, why don't you charge more and improve your profit margin?

2. Not all discrimination is bad. you've abandoned the accusation of racism and moved into the more nuanced consideration of discriminating against individuals based upon their qualifications. that is a norm in the business world and will not change b/c of your posts. some examples:

a. you have a brain tumor. who do you want to operate: the first year intern or the head of surgery with 15 years experience?

b. you're a publisher wanting to put out a book on evolution. who do you select: the tenured, phd. prof of biology or the spunky first year grad assistant?

c. you're a headhunter for a top tennessee law firm. you have two candidates with exactly the same gpa and work experience. one graduated from harvard and one from SIU. who do you pick?

d. of course, there are some cases where employers will choose less qualified or experienced candidates to fill positions b/c they can pay them less and thereby decrease their operational costs. these cases include school systems that elect to hire first year teachers instead of a teacher with 10 years experience because they are required to pay the experienced writer more or the manufacturer that moves its plants to Asia so it can pay its new workers one tenth of what is demanded by unions in the U.S.

e. the hiring of more expensive, more qualified workers must be justified financially or a company will go out of business or adopt the practice of hiring less expensive personnel in order to remain competitive.

f. therefore, this debate really becomes a question of whether being a native English speaker trained within an American or British (and I'd suggest Australian) institution provides a demonstrable business advantage for essay companies and their clients. if enough qualified, ESL writers were available to work for the different essay writing companies and were capable of producing high quality work, then American and British writers would have to take a pay cut or be replaced. but that just hasn't happened. why do you think that's the case?

ok, this got too long, 2 points and too many subpoints. but my point is simple: i think that you're fighting a losing battle. the market would remove the demand for native english writers if there was no benefit to the additional qualifications. there are, no doubt, some very qualified non-native English speakers who are capable of producing fine work that would pass as being written by native English speakers. But my guess is that they are in the minority of ESL writers and that they are smart enough to work for the companies that pay more rather than those who pay less.
Lavinia   
Sep 05, 2007

this thread is pointless.

your company lies about the qualifications and backgrounds of its employees as a component of its marketing strategy. obviously, your bosses think that it makes a difference to the customer or they wouldn't do it.

an honest and potentially effective marketing strategy would involve acknowledging the use of non-native writers as a means of keeping cost to the consumer low. then, customers can make an informed decision. why don't your bosses just do that?
Lavinia   
Aug 26, 2007

It is really troublesome to see an accusation of racism bandied about in such a casual manner.

The conflation of race and English language speakers under the term "racism" is a foolish attempt to silence WB. Individuals who learn English as their first and/or primary language may be any race just as individuals who learn English as a second language may derive origination from any race.

At worst, discrimination against ESL speakers might potentially be legally construed as national origin discrimination. American law prohibits discrimination in employment decisions based upon several different categories including both race and national origin. It's called Title Vii of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

However, writing companies are within their legal rights to not hire ESL writers because the ability to write English at a high level is a "bona fide occupational qualification." I doubt this case has been argued yet but I don't think essay writing companies refusing to hire ESL writers need to worry too much about a lawsuit.

In many cases, hiring ESL writers would compromise the quality of the work provided by many writing services. Don't believe me? Read the excerpt I posted above from the service focused upon in this thread and try to portray it as quality writing. What's sad is they do.

So cut the crap racism accusation. It's pathetic and makes you look desperate.
Lavinia   
Aug 23, 2007

tudok: i really don't understand the point of your question. is their lying about what dates/contact information/qualifications not enough to stop a rational consumer from using their services?

but in answer to your question, their writing pretty much sucks. here is an example from one of their sample papers, filled with blatant spelling errors, grammar mistakes and wordiness:

Magic: The Gathering is also colloquially known as the magic card which the youth of
today have been hooked upon. Basically speaking, Magic: The Gathering is originally a collectible type of card game which has been introduced by the Wizards of the Coast in the year of 1993. It is found out that there are about six million individuals that are playing the game in the different parts of the globe. The game can be played by two or more players which have their own sets of deck of cards printed and used in Magic: The Gathering. In this regard, it cannot be denied that in order to play the game, there should be two or more players that will engage in the fight or a battle. Meaning to say, it cannot be denied that the game signifies a fight and a battle between wizards that are powerful in using their magic. Hence, it is expected that the wizards will utilized different forms of spells in order to combat and fight another wizard. In addition to this, magical items and creatures will also be utilized in relation to the battle that each wizard should win. Meaning to say, the game is more like a role playing system wherein the players will pretend that they are witches and wizards in dealing with each other (Badwin, 115).

aimpapers.com/samples/Psychological_Disorder_1_.pdf

Horrible.

watermelon: i don't have any personal experience with Writer.PH so i don't know if they're a scam, but they do threaten to fine writers for making mistakes and they have that ambiguous line about needing to be loyal to the company that seems a little odd. like with any company, if you do apply, i'd suggest starting small and ensuring that you get paid before you commit yourself to long projects.
Lavinia   
Aug 21, 2007

on the writer end, after a 3 day period they contacted me with a form letter containing several mispellings asking me to apply to another website. this website did not have any education requirements for writers despite their masters degree claim. they do reserve the right to fine writers for not meeting the requirements of customers which always seems to me to be a big warning sign. also, they have a weird payment schedule that can either be monthly or bimonthly depending upon your performance (eh?). seemed sketchy.
Lavinia   
Aug 18, 2007

Greetings,

I've had no contact with this company in the past. There were a couple of things that seemed sketchy about their site but nothing huge that would suggest to me absolutely that they are not legit. I filled out a writer application to see how they process that and will let you know if i find out anything.

just a note to correct your number 3: they explicitly say that the 3 hour turnaround is only for short, relatively easy papers (5 pages or less), so they don't promise a dissertation in 3 hours. here's the link:

customessaymeister.com/about/price_schedule.htm

i figured i'd point that out since any company promising a dissertation in 3 hours should be avoided like the plague.
Lavinia   
Aug 11, 2007

do they read this forum? maybe, but the all important "AND" from my statement questions whether they will actually change their policies as a result of reading anything. they won't.

i mean, come on, there are two huge threads on this forum on just the first page talking about essaywriters.net's fraudulent activities. The oldest is dated back to March, 2007. I'm willing to bet there are far older threads than that as well. As of August 2007, they are still cheating their writers. If reading a post was enough to change the company, they would have done it by now, don't you think?
Lavinia   
Aug 09, 2007

writing a post and complaining about a fraudulent company is no doubt cathartic, but you do realize that the chance of essaywriters.net reading this and changing their policies is about zero, right?

i would respectfully suggest the following alternative for writers being cheated out of their pay by sites such as these:

take on a lot of projects and don't turn them in.

If the writers being cheated would put their feet down and hit these companies in the place that it hurts most (the wallet) then maybe you can get something changed. or at least get paid.

or, screw the fraudulent company by costing them customers.

it's a win-win-win for you and helps to return some of the lost agency to the writer being cheated.

i admit that this option is a bit "out there" and may cause some people to yell at me but really what obligation do you have to a company that refuses to pay you?

let's face it, the vast majority of writers who get screwed by fraudulent companies do nothing. they accept their losses and move on. maybe some post to forums such as these. maybe some research legal action, but that's an option that dies out fast, particularly if the company is overseas. and besides, no one wants to invest potentially thousands of dollars in a lawsuit if the company owes you just a few hundred. that's how these companies get away with what they are doing - writers aren't active enough in making this crap end.

lots of writers post asking what they can do when being dealt with unfairly by a company. this is one option that takes no coordination, no legal action, no additional cost to you and has the potential to actually generate an impact within the company.
Lavinia   
Aug 08, 2007

jack, i would try to respond to your accusations, but your posts are so ridiculous there is really no point. Neutral readers will understand you for the flake that you are.

I am a writer, I am not a ghostwriter. There is a clear difference. I don't produce work so that others can claim it for their own. If i wanted to do that, I would go ghostwrite celebrity autobiographies because that would be more lucrative.

The client's refusal to pay led me to suspect that she was using my work to cheat, that is all. I am not blackmailing her. Since finding out that she was using my work to cheat, I have considered turning her in, not as revenge, but because I don't write to help others cheat. If this was a project that just involved her, I think the decision would be easy for me. As it stands, my decision to act could also impact her group mates, which bothers me.

To be quite honest, as I've been thinking about this lately, I'm probably not going to accept payment and just write this off as a learning experience. The whole situation is simply uncomfortable and weird. Part of me thinks that even if she did pay, i'd always have a risk of her reversing the payment at some random point in the future.

I hope other writers at least learn from my clear mistake and always secure payment before delivering work.
Lavinia   
Aug 08, 2007

Whoa Jack. Time to cut back on the caffeine. I recommend decaf. Your attempts at character assassination are freakin' hilarious.

Who could have thought that Lavinia, is a custom writer! Well, unlike the "face of *********" (WritersBeware), she is rather polite. Look at her post

Well duh, of course I am a custom writer. I've let that be known on several occasions in my relatively short posting career on this forum. This is a forum for students and for writers, correct? i'm not a student, I am a writer. Again, duh. Would you like me to link some other posts where I clearly identify myself as a writer?

1. Eh? I found out that a client of mine used my work to cheat in one of her classes and I've been torn about what to do about it. I posted specifically in the forum for WRITERS CHEATED BY CLIENTS seeking advice on how to proceed. I'm not blackmailing anyone. I posted to ask advice primarily because i'm concerned that if i turn her in, it will impact the educational career of her innocent groupmates. I'm not out for revenge and anyone with a 2nd grade reading comprehension level can see that. I don't write so that clients can use my work to cheat.

if you really want to accuse me of wrongdoing, do so on that thread and i'll be happy to respond. Instead, you post it here again in a pathetic attempt to derail this thread for your own purposes.

2. I don't know the connection between *********, Essayfraud, or Essayscam (if there is one) but i'm not employed by any of them. swing and a miss for jack.

By the way, WritersBeware, could you please tell me if Lavinia is one of those "Professors writers" which ********* and its russian affiliates claim to hire in America for more than $100/hour?

Swing two and a miss. I wish i knew someone who would pay me $100/hour. Unfortunately, not yet.

In fact, your suggestion that writers make more than $100/hour suggest to me a fundamental misunderstanding of the business. Academic writers, at least in my own experience, do not work for salary. We aren't real employees of a company - we are independent contractors. We are free to work or not work as much as we want. The companies that we write for are not obligated to employ us into the future. That isn't simply the case of academic research writers, it is also true of many different professions. I would have zero incentive from a company to post on their behalf on any forum and I certainly wouldn't receive any financial compensation for doing so. In fact, frankly, my guess would be that legitimate companies would prefer that their writers do not post on their behalfs in forums because they will inevitably be drawn into conflict with useless trolls like yourself.

But maybe I am wrong. If there are any companies who pay $100/hour, could someone let me know so I can send them my resume? Thanks in advance!

Her Mundane language, her desire to disclose a client's personal information to third parties and break the law, her blackmailing her clients rather than pursuing justice as mandated by the US law make us all wonder. Does it sound like a real American professor? Can you imagine the rest of *********'s russian team? Do you still trust ********* and its Russian scammers (Papermasters, Essayfraud and Essayscam)?

Mundane? Now that hurt my feelings.

What client's personal information did I disclose to third parties? That's right none. Try to follow the logic - I had a client refuse to pay me after receiving a project. That is not ethical. Unethical people tend to follow patterns. Her refusal to pay made me wonder if she had been using my work to cheat. I thought about it for a while, honestly hoping that she would eventually contact me to fix the issue. Eventually, I investigated using the information that she supplied me and confirmed my hunch. I didn't post her identity to this forum or in any other way expose her publicly as a fraud. I posted for two reasons - to get feedback on how to proceed and to help warn other writers not to trust clients too much. Both are issues that I personally felt were worth sharing publicly.

And, as I noted in my post, that job was entirely between her and me. No company was involved. So, if you want to criticize me, that's your option, but to somehow link it to companies that I have no affiliation with is thoroughly ridiculous.

i haven't been on the board long, but it is clear that you attempt to assassinate the character of anyone who doesn't agree with you.
Lavinia   
Aug 08, 2007

Jack - i'm saying that this thread has nothing to do with *********. ********* is not papermasters. Papermasters is not Essayfraud. I take no position on Essayfraud because there is no need.

I'll bite, but only a little. Essayfraud doesn't endorse any companies at all, it only functions to point out potentially fraudulent companies. As the site states:

essayfraud/recommendations.html

Specifically (and back on topic) Essayfraud does not endorse papermasters. By your own admission, that should mean that Papermasters is a legit service. However, you don't make that logical point because you are more interested in your personal crusade against Essayfraud and the supposed triad of evil (again, a topic i don't want to get into on THIS thread because that is NOT the topic).

This thread started because papermasters specifically does NOT place the Essayfraud logo on its website. My response to that concern is simple: papermasters is not required to endorse Essayfraud or to display its logo so that, by itself, is not a reason to reject papermasters.com as a fraud.

Get it? Got it? Good.
Lavinia   
Aug 08, 2007

Greetings.

This post is my initial attempt to compile a list of warning signs and issues that may help to distinguish legit and illegit services. First a couple of disclaimers/caveats:

I am writing purely from a writer's perspective, ie. as someone who has gained professional experience working for a few different academic research companies and who currently maintains professional relationships with 3 such organizations. I won't be naming them because I don't want to be accused of promoting any specific organization and because I think that authors, like the members of any other profession, have a responsibility to conduct their own research on potential employers. Let's be honest: any writer should be at least a bit skeptical of anyone claiming to be a writer and endorsing that they work for a particular company. It's not in MY best interest to advertise how great the companies that I work for are because I want them to keep their number of qualified writers relatively low - that means I have a greater access to, and choice of, work projects because I have less competition within the organization.

Legit Writer ServiceHowever, this list is intended to act as a potentially helpful guideline for old and new writers alike. Helping fellow writers not be scammed by fraudulent businesses helps to ensure that the legit companies that I work for face less competition from these frauds. Pointing out the frauds also potentially helps to improve the reputation of the industry as a whole.

Again, this is specifically a post by a writer to other writers: I have never ordered a custom essay myself and would only attest to the quality of work produced personally by me. I think I have a decent idea of the quality of work generally produced by the companies that I work for but that is a topic for another thread.

I should also note that this is purely from an American perspective. While I think most of the issues described below are universal, it is quite possible that certain legal issues such as contracts will vary according to nation of origin. I won't speak to anything but my own experience.

Signs that you may want to work for a company:



1. They have standards for employment.

Standards should exist for both initial hiring and continued employment. Ask yourself these questions: Do they require a minimum level of education? Do they require that you meet deadlines? Do they require a minimum standard of work quality? Do they request a resume? Do they interview you? The first company that I applied for called me within an hour of receiving my resume. I was surprised and delighted. Yes, I still work for them today (years later).

2. They have you sign a contract.

The contract (independent contractor W9) explicitly explains the working conditions to which both sides agree. The contract includes provisions concerning decisions to terminate the working relationship and plagiarism.

3. They initially limit your work options.

No legit company should be willing to offer a dissertation job worth thousands of dollars to a writer who has not even produced some 3 page book reviews. Placing such an order in the hands of a newby writer is a CLEAR sign that the company does not properly cultivate long term relationships with its writers and therefore has no alternative but to trust potentially huge projects to new faces.

Each of the three companies that I currently work for limited my initial writing contracts to short, relatively simple orders. I didn't see it then but in retrospect I understand that these initial projects were tests to see if I was reliable. IE., if i did flake out and not turn in a project, or turned in plagiarized work or incomprehensible dreck, the company would have a better chance of containing the problem without jeopardizing its relationship with the client. As a writer proves him- or herself capable, then longer and more challenging jobs should become available gradually. Don't expect to get a $1000 freelance writing job offer immediately - if you do, wonder why they would give it to you instead of a more experienced writer.

4. They have your best interest in mind and treat you professionally.

A legit company has the interests of its contractors in mind when making decisions because management recognizes that a shortage of talented writers will lead to financial ruin. They offer both positive and negative feedback. If you do a great job, they tell you. If you screw up, they tell you and explain how to fix it.

*They do not expect you to work for free.* They expect you to be fairly compensated in a timely manner for the work that you do complete.

5. Other aspects of the company are professionally presented to the public
Their website is free of errors.


They have a high rate of returning business (something that you as a writer will see with time because clients do frequently request the same writer for future projects).

Signs that you probably do not want to work for a company:



1. They have no standards for employment.

If becoming a writer just requires you to sign up at the company website, that's a bad sign. If they do that with you, that means they do that with everyone and have zero quality control over the projects produced. If you aren't degreed and you think you can get work, you can, but customers notice the difference in quality and legit companies do too.

2. They expect you to work for free.

Legit businesses do not forget to send your payment for completed projects or experience financial difficulties that delay your reception of your payment for the work they commissioned. This would never happen in other professions and I am constantly amazed when I hear people are putting up with this in this field.

They also do not expect you to revise projects for free. Revisions take up your time and you are therefore entitled to compensation (I understand that in some cases the need for revisions may be your fault, but I am assuming that you do not turn in crappy work). The bulk of revisions that you do for a company should be compensated.

I am also very skeptical of companies that use penalty systems to deduct the amount paid for projects. None of the companies that I work for use such systems and frankly they sound to me like a tool that is far too easily manipulated to permit the company to invent excuses for non-payment. Don't work for any joker who thinks that it is legitimate to penalize your payment. I obviously don't mean in cases of plagiarism - if you plagiarize, you deserve to get nothing and the company has every right to fire you. However, amorphous claims of plagiarism without evidence used to deduct your earnings while permitting you to continue to write is a clear sign of manipulation and fraud on the part of the business.

3. Their per page rate is low.

Think about how quickly you type and are able to write within an hour. Add the time that it takes to research a project (that are you not directly compensated for) and try to estimate your hourly goal. You should be able to comfortably make $30 per hour without breaking a sweat. If you can't, this may not be the field for you. If your typing skills are a problem, invest in a course or get practicing.

What should you be making? Again, I only want to offer a rough estimate rather than any hard rule. A per page rate in the range of $8 (for courier new font, relatively easy work) to up to 20$ (for times new roman, rush projects requiring a high level of knowledge, such as PhD level work) should be expected. $1-$6 dollars per page is ridiculous. You can't live on that comfortably and no legit business should expect you to do so.

4. The website is sketchy.

Spelling and grammar errors are common. The company does not give details on its origin. It lacks phone support.

The warning signs all add up to one vital issue that all writers should remember: respect yourself and expect the company to do the same. Value the time that you spend on a job: this goes for full time writers and individuals writing to simply supplement their income. This is a business. It has the potential to provide long term compensation if that is your goal. It is also a nice way to supplement your income. Do not expect to work for peanuts and do not let yourself be used by others.

If folks would like to add other warning or positive signs, please do.
Lavinia   
Aug 08, 2007

thank you for your comments. as fate would have it, the client contacted me late last night. after 6 weeks of silence i was surprised to say the least. my guess is the groupmates contacted her.

still no payment but she promised to do so today or tomorrow, so we'll see.
Lavinia   
Aug 08, 2007

********* and papermasters are not the same company. readers should not be confused by the negative comments directed toward ********* as in any way indicative of the business practices of papermasters.

bringing up ********* in a thread asking about papermasters simply demonstrates a pathetic attempt to shift the topic of every thread on this forum onto your own personal ideological campaign.
Lavinia   
Aug 08, 2007

heyas WB -

Authorsmania is advertising on some of the freelance writing forums I frequent. The site copy is one of the factors that has stopped me from taking a job from them.

I've see 3 assignments posted for authors through the site so far. 2 for 4$ per page and 1 for 6$ per page, which is enough for me to stay away.

I won't bad mouth them yet but I'd caution writers to beware. I would not be surprised if we end up reading some complaints about them in the near future.
Lavinia   
Aug 07, 2007

Dissertation Cancelto writersbeware:

potentially. knowing the legality of the issue would require knowing the company, their posted procedures, the area of jurisdiction, and the contract agreed upon by the two parties. damages in the case of the breach (in the U.S., for example) tend to be limited to those advantages that would have been received by the injured party had a breach not occurred - in this place, the company losing the dissertation order could be theoretically entitled to monetary damages equal to the price of the dissertation order. but even then, the company would need to demonstrate that actual damages occured... ie. that a writer had started the project and had lost work time on this order. it's reasonable to believe that the damages would not be equal to the whole amount of the price of the order.

that's why i said timing is so important. if there was a month timeframe on this dissertation order, a not uncommon time period, then i'm about 98.7777% certain that if the client called to cancel the order the next day that the writer hadn't started the order yet and the company would have a tough time demonstrating damages if it did file a suit. However, if there was a 3-4 day timeframe, then that risk is much greater because that writer will have really started to work on it.

I didn't mean to sound like i was advocating option 3. however, if you need the money to pay your mortgage or pay hospital bills and the company won't budge or negotiate with you, then it's there. it's an option, but not a good one.
Lavinia   
Aug 07, 2007

Greetings!

I recently signed on to join authorsmania.net. I have not yet written anything for them as there are some issues with the site and within email conversations with their support that have set off some alarms for me. I was wondering if any writers have had any experiences with this group (positive or negative).

thanks in advance.
Lavinia   
Aug 07, 2007

it's a little unclear from your post if you contacted the company or the merchant that backs your debit card. if you contacted the company and they refused to offer a full refund, you have a couple of options:

1) Ask about a partial refund as Major suggested
2) Ask about using the money to pay for other projects that would be useful to you, since you don't want the dissertation anymore

the willingness of the company to offer a refund will depend more on the deadline that you set for the reception of the dissertation than the time you ordered it. if you gave them a month (or more) to write the dissertation, they should be more amenable to at least a partial refund. if you gave them less than a week, then I can see why they would refuse a refund. but you still have another option:

3) Contact the holder of your credit card and dispute payment through their standard procedures. that's not the best option but if this is a serious financial situation it may be your only choice.

good luck.
Lavinia   
Aug 07, 2007

Greetings,

I am a full time freelance writer and have been for about 3 years now. I occasionally put together power point presentations (ppt) for clients. Back in June, a client that I have completed projects for in the past called me frantically because she needed a ppt within a day for a presentation. I was pretty busy but I always try to help out returning customers and so i agreed to take the job. She sent me the information. It was nothing major, just some statistics that i needed to interpret for her and make it look pretty. 10 slides in all. I was a little suprised when I saw the material b/c it wasn't for her work but for school - it looked to be for a class b/c part of what she sent me had email correspondence from a couple of other persons talking about their professor.

Bad CustomerShe said she'd call me back with the payment info and i said no problem. She called back later, begged me to send the complete project and promised she would pay me the next day. she was out of town for business and wanted to pay by paypal and didn't know her account information. yah i know... lame... but i'm trusting and have never had a problem getting payment from her. i sent her the project and went back to work on other things.

long story short, once i sent her the project she disappeared from the face of the earth. i talked to her once about a week after the project, she promised to take care of payment later that night and didn't. now, she won't return my calls or emails. it's been almost 2 months. clearly, she decided to rip me off.

after thinking about this on an off for a few weeks, I contacted the people that were in the emails she had sent me for the project. They confirmed that they were students working on a group project with my client, that she had been responsible for putting together the ppt for their group presentation. i sent them the ppt that I completed for her and it seems she passed off my work as her own for my class.

so yah, she ripped me off but she was dumb enough to include student contact information that enabled me to learn the class, the professor and the school. she was dishonest enough to not only decide to not pay me but also to turn in exactly what i did for her to her classmates.

so what should i do? contacting her professor will require minimal effort and i'm probably going to do exactly that. i'm a little worried that turning her in might also get her group members in trouble, but i would certainly stress that they appear to have had no knowledge that the work she gave them wasn't her own. I suppose that part of me also hopes that maybe she didn't intend to rip me off and cheat but that something happened to make her act so... ie, this was a one time thing rather than a part of a cycle. of course, i dislike being taken advantage of and the thought of contacting her prof. to commence an ethical inquiry is certainly tempting. it makes me wonder if the other projects that i completed for her were similarly used to fulfill coursework.

anyway, this is too long already. opinions would be appreciated. this situation might act as a cautionary tale for other writers as well. if you are working directly with a client, always get payment first.
Lavinia   
Aug 07, 2007

hello,

I am new to the board and have been enjoying catching up some of the older posts. I just wanted to add something to this post.

It seems to me that faulty logic is leading to an inaccurate portrayal of papermasters as an untrustworthy site. I mean, you folks are assuming that because papermasters doesn't display the logo that they automatically have something to hide. how about this as an alternative: they don't want to give free advertising to essayfraud? i understand the need to watch for fraud in the industry, but papermasters or anyone else isn't professionally obligated to display the logo of another organization on their website.

i would suggest a better test: check essayfraud to see if they list papermasters as a fraudulent site:

essayfraud/scam-fraud-ripoff-3.html

(quick answer ... they're not listed!)