Riiiiight... my message was a "desperate plea."


That sounds really desperate.

Let's see... you failed to answer all of my questions regarding your claim that this thread is a publicity stunt, you pathetically tried to divert the topic of this thread out of some silly fear that this would somehow reel in more clients for eb, and you still can't get over the fact that the first thing I did when I got back to this message board was to kick your C2C ignorant a**. I think EVERYONE here can see who's desperate. :) LOL! If you don't believe me then make a poll about it in another thread. ^_^

If you don't have anything positive to contribute to this thread, I suggest that you stop humiliating yourself further. In the interest of keeping this thread active long enough for eb's people to respond, I'm now going to stop responding to your pointless posts that do not contribute anything to the purpose of this thread.

Dream on then. :)

@ topic

Now onwards to more important matters. It's been well over 24 hours and there is yet no response from any of the emails that I have sent essaybay admin. There is also still no update as to when this technical hiccup would be resolved. I don't get why given this crisis, essaybay can't even mobilize say 2 people to handle emails to ensure that responses are made within say 12 hours. There couldn't be that many of them (emails I mean), could there? o.O I'm not really worried yet at this point since none of my current projects are due until 5-6 more days. Nevertheless, I think what essaybay can do to stop me from posting here is to answer my emails and send me my clients' files so that I can work on my current projects. And no, I DON'T have my clients' order numbers memorized.

Jealous?!? You're crazy. ^__^ I'm not going to re-hash anything. Peanuts? Ha! You wish. :) Oh wait, I get it.. trying to divert the topic so that your obvious humiliation in this thread would not be so obvious? I think it's way too late for that... several years too late. :) I beat you to a pulp in that thread and in many others. This thread stays so you lose, again. :p

Now onwards to more important matters. It's been well over 24 hours and there is yet no response from any of the emails that I have sent essaybay admin. There is also still no update as to when this technical hiccup would be resolved. I don't get why given this crisis, essaybay can't even mobilize say 2 people to handle emails to ensure that responses are made within say 12 hours. There couldn't be that many of them (emails I mean), could there? o.O I'm not really worried yet at this point since none of my current projects are due until 5-6 more days. Nevertheless, I think what essaybay can do to stop me from posting here is to answer my emails and send me my clients' files so that I can work on my current projects. And no, I DON'T have my clients' order numbers memorized.

WTF?!? Backdoor publicity?! You really do have quite a few loose screws. >.< So because of this thread, more people would register with EB.. OH WAIT, THE SITE IS F*^$ING DOWN! LOL!!!! You're a cross between a moron and a nutcase. I'm not even sure that the site will be back up again. Especially since I haven't gotten a response to ANY of my EMAILS to the address they specified for the last 24 hours. Of course essaybay admin would disapprove of people complaining about the site suddenly closing down and writers not being able to sufficiently communicate with clients. It's because unlike you, their definition of PUBLICITY is the same as everyone else's on the planet Earth.

As in the many other times that I've humiliated you, you're going to try to BS yourself out of this one until the matter dies down. You know, I actually told an accountant friend of mine how you defined payroll (your definition, not the dictionary definition you pulled out of cyberspace) and what you thought about taxes in a C2C business model and she thought you were downright silly.

This shooting yourself in the foot, is it a casual penchant or a regular hobby? ^____^


And for the nth time, I AM NOT EMPLOYED BY ESSAYBAY. Liam is employed by essaybay, Carly is employed by essaybay, I AM A CUSTOMER OF ESSAYBAY!

I use essaybay's service to reach clients and make money. I am a client of the system. Is the concept of the C2C business model really THAT LOST to that peanut you call a brain?

Hey... so how are you helping people by demanding the closure of threads which discuss sites suddenly closing down and leaving writers and clients without a stable means of communication?

Loser.

So... are you a moderator, or EssayScam itself? If you're neither, then I guess your discretion doesn't matter. :) This shooting yourself in the foot, is it a casual penchant or a regular hobby? ^____^

Can't answer the question, huh? :p

ROFLMAO! Public good my foot. You throw dirt and then BS like crazy when you're caught. Sure there are lots of other characters on this site worse than you (at least the site you defend does have good writers), but you're a pathetic, hopeless, ignorant sorry piece of s-i* nonetheless. ^_^

Publicity? You call having a writer posting a thread to complain about a site suddenly going off-line without so much as a warning to writers who have multiple current projects PUBLICITY? You're trying to pass off a discussion about how slow responses from the temporary email-based ticketing system are going, PUBLICITY? LOL!!! Hey, maybe next time you can also ask students not to post about getting scammed by companies anymore.. perhaps those companies are just faking the scam reports to get some publicity for themselves as well. Talk about the proverbial snake oil salesman. Sheessh...

Pathetic and hopeless.


So... are you a moderator, or EssayScam itself? If you're neither, then I guess your discretion doesn't matter. :) This shooting yourself in the foot, is it a casual penchant or a regular hobby? ^____^


Like the way you "selflessly" throw dirt at all of the companies that you don't happen to work for? :P

Can you cite a rule that states that people cannot use this message board to post concerns about sites suddenly going offline?

Oh.. or were you pathetically trying to pass this one off as that?


Liam didn't create this thread, I did. Was I breaking any rules when I did? No. Was Liam breaking any rules by responding? Only the rule that only one account should be used per company. The response itself did not break any rules.

I AM using the given email to contact eb regarding my current projects and will wait 24 hours after each email for them to respond. If they do not do so however, I'll be right back here asking them to attend to my messages and you sure as heck won't be able to stop me. :)

Hi Liam, I just sent my third email message to admin@essaybay just now. Whoever is manning the email messages has not responded to me all day and I was just trying to send an order to a client.

Ok. I hope that you guys can facilitate a means through which customers can still communicate with writers and release payments to them and that you in turn can deposit released payments to the paypal account that the writer designates. I'm afraid that many of my clients may already be panicking about how to contact me and as most of the info that I need for their orders are uploaded on the site, I would not be able to start working on their papers until I am able to get in touch with them.

Also, putting such a temporary system in place (particularly if you don't know when the technical difficulties would be resolved like you said) would make both writers and clients feel more secure that the site won't suddenly just bail and leave them hanging.

Hi again. I already sent admin the project that was due today but received no feedback as to whether or not they were able to send it to the client. Also, I am still waiting on an update regarding when this maintenance would be completed. I think it's only fair that we be informed if this is going to take a while (as in more than a couple of days).

Ok. Any idea when these problems would be fixed?

I beg to differ. Even if justanotherstudent eventually names his writer (and I doubt that he would do so publicly), the overall forum exposure for this writer would still be positive. This is because it's much easier to give a valid excuse for a late paper than for a poorly written one. It's even possible that some of the duller and/or more desperate students who check this board have already sent emails to justanotherstudent asking for who the writer is so that they can contact him or her themselves. If the writer offers these new clients partial submission of the project before payment, then the problem of non-submission posed in this thread is rendered irrelevant.

I smell an ad. ^_^

It is? o.O Gosh... I didn't notice. Wait.. so why am I still completing hundred-dollar projects/day?

Your explanation is probably right in your imagination, but sorry, it's not in the real world. :)

Here's the right explanation:

Transactions on essaybay occur between writers and clients with Essaybay as a mediating body that earns commission from completed transactions. Essaybay probably pays taxes on commissions, yes, but that DOES NOT make their writers count as employees. Thus, one cannot say that essaybay's writers are on essaybay's "payroll" without sounding utterly ridiculous, not to mention completely ignorant of the C2C business model.

If you can't accept it well, sucks to be stubborn, ignorant, hopeless you. :)

Wrong-o, boy-o. ^_^ Transactions on essaybay occur between writers and clients with Essaybay as a mediating body that earns commission from completed transactions. Essaybay probably pays taxes on commissions, yes, but that DOES NOT make their writers count as employees. Thus, one cannot say that essaybay's writers are on essaybay's "payroll" without sounding utterly ridiculous, not to mention completely ignorant of the C2C business model.


It's your irresistible personality that keeps dragging me back. You're such a hoot to boot. :)

Oh please, anyone reading the thread I posted a link to would understand that I never contested the other definition of payroll that you pulled out of the dictionary. I was arguing that writers of essaybay are not employees of essaybay and you messed up with a "literal" definition of payroll in trying to support your claim to the contrary.

Stuff your bottom line up your ass. ^_^ The real bottom line is that you're through. You're a sad piece of **** who just can't admit being wrong and I pity you. :)


Dream on, moron. ^__^

(See, this is the "I ought to have the last say" game that WB loves to play)

I already did that at your earlier request, numbskull. o.O I stand by my statement:

No matter how many times you get humiliated, you just keep coming back for more.


No, you stated that after I pointed your error out to you. ^_^ Those who want to check can just read the thread:

https://essayscam.org/forum/wc/essaybay-cheats-writers-1810/

Game, set, and match... again. ^_^

Hahahah!!! I laughed for two whole minutes reading your post. ^________^ You really do make my day at times that it makes the revenue I lose by spending time on this site almost worth it. >.<


Oh, sure. Hey pheelyks or FW, are payrolls in your world defined as "quite literally a list of people to whom the company owes money"? Isn't "employees" instead of people a much saner term and wouldn't using "people" technically mean that the definition includes a company's creditors when it should not?


You asked for it:


essayscam.org/forum/es/accessessays-com-fraud-philippines-accessessays-305/#msg4065

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to get back to writing stuff for money.

See, VSWhittington? There's your writer. I told you she has perfect grammar. Senseless, but gleaming! Yukyukyukyuk!!!

Oh.. is it senseless one-liner season again? I fail to see the contradiction in how fake feedback being exposed and dealt with by system administrators shows that the feedback system is working and that its integrity can be counted on.

Say.. wanna write a management paper? It's about choosing between different payroll systems. You know.. those lists of people that "a company owes money to." Hahaha! No matter how many times you get humiliated, you just keep coming back for more.

Did you sell them your $300? ^_^ I once had a $50. I loved that $50, but I had to sell it so I can buy a $100.

Having "escrow pending" on an order does not automatically mean that the client did not pay for the order. As I've experienced, it happens in some cases that even after I have received notifications that the escrow payment had been made, the order still shows up as "escrow pending" on the order page. I'm betting that it has to do with the payment method that the client selected.

I don't think that having an "escrow pending" was the only basis for catching feedback fakers. I'm think that on Carly's end, they have the official records of which orders with "escrow pending" were actually paid and which weren't.

Hahaha!

Aww.. cut him some slack. I'm betting that err.. KISSmyACE was just trying to promote himself by sounding all "cheesy" and artist-like. God knows that doing that correctly does win a writer some clients on this site. Of course, by "correctly" I mean the exact opposite of how garr... KISSmyACE is doing it but hey, can't blame the guy for trying. :)

Ahhhhhh... cool. ^_^ Solid post too. "The Uzbekistan" was priceless. :)

It's good to welcome a fellow pasta enthusiast! ^__^

@^

How is that not this?


^_^

It does that sometimes. >.< I once had a client who ordered a dissertation about mobile phones. We coordinated a lot so you can imagine how difficult getting a message about the project across the system was. We got used to it after a while and just referred to mobile phones as xxx.

I wasn't challenging you to. I just really wanted to read what the writers had to say. ^_^


Well, I have to say that that's not what I'd call a good strategy in buying anything. Even without having read this thread, I think common sense should have told you that accepting the lowest bid without first conversing lengthily with the writer to make sure you know what you're getting would take you to "a world of hurt." At least now you're on the right track. Talk extensively with writers who you are considering, check their feedback to make sure that others have genuinely and consistently found them helpful, and I'm sure you'd end up with a writer you'll be satisfied with.

Care to prove that claim by posting the replies of those writers here? ^__^ I was thinking about posting a message for you to ask for at least some details on the topic, but I decided against it when I saw that the project was placed under the subject area of Animation. Computer graphics is not something I'd count as a strength. :)

If this is the case then you have no basis at all for accusing your writer or anyone else on essaybay of leaking your information. For all you know, it could have been a classmate of yours. Alternatively, your writer may have sent you plagiarized work. If you give us your project code (after removing your personal info from the attached files if you haven't yet), I think much more light would be shed on the matter.

When did I say that?


The question is, is your story an autobiographical account or a fantasy? ^___^

You should ask for a rewrite and request pheelyks or FW to do it. If your essay was written in perfect grammar but had crappy logic, insane definitions (such as that a payroll "is quite literally a list of people to whom the company owes money"), funky "general" statistics, or completely did not answer the question despite the entire essay having flawlessly gleaming grammar and spelling (did I mention that already?), chances are you got WritersBeware. Sucks to be you if that's the case 'coz she'll probably insist on doing the rewrite herself and still end up giving you junk written in absolutely spotless American English.

May I ask what details of yours was leaked by your writer? You should tell Carly what the project code is so that she can look into it. If you can't do that, it tells a lot about how true this sudden buyer complaint may not be amidst the wretched cries of banned feedback fakers.

CV my foot. Those "people" fabricated feedback. Clients need to be able to rely on feedback from other clients when deciding on which writer to choose. Cheating on feedback is an unforgivable offense in a C2C business model so yeah, those who fabricated feedback deserve everything they got from Carly and her team. ^__^

Nope, your points are pointless. Of course AK pays taxes on what they earn from commissions. That proves nothing. We're still not their employees as far as taxes are concerned. We're clients just as the customers are also clients. Still don't know what C2C is, I see. I think even WRT sees that essaybay doesn't hire writers. :D


Corrupt feedback system my ass. We complained about the cheaters and Carly corrected the problem. What's corrupt about that?


Who else agrees with me that essyabay does not hire writers? Let's see...





Oh but they do, there are lots of people on Ebay who advertise product qualifications that are false, and there are many applicants who are allowed by elance to apply despite having faked their qualifications. Once they get caught, they get suspended or banned much like what happened to the people who faked their feedback at essaybay. Need I say more?

You lose again. Period.


LOL! Should private companies do that for all con artists like yourself?


May I just say that I disagree with any reprogramming that would add overhead costs and demand more commission from writers. The only thing you guys need to fix is the feedback system. It doesn't matter how many incompetent hacks you allow to register as writers, they won't get anywhere if the feedback system is solid. That's how C2C works.


Oh please, competent writers don't need to fabricate feedback, only losers do.


Again, the whole point of this is that the feedback system is supposed to set the standard for both quality and prices. For example, I am probably the best writer EB has. As a consequence, I am pretty certain that I've earned several times more from the site than anyone else. There are some writers who get to the top 10 every now and then with a handful of feedback, but they get dropped soon enough and don't return. So, it's really survival of the fittest.. just the way I like it. :D

Oh and Carly, it also wouldn't hurt if you incorporate the amount of feedback received to the average feedback when you post your top writers on the homepage. That would give clients a more accurate idea of who really are the most competent writers on the site.


The defense should have rested in peace a long time ago. :)

In the same manner, we writers pay essaybay a commission for the use of their site. Once again, we are NOT employed by essaybay. We are not employees of essaybay.


Whether or not money is forwarded in an AK account is irrelevant. The customers let EB hold their money and EB uses the escrow system to do so. Only the clients can release the money to writers and only writers can cancel payments unless there is a dispute in which EB does its job and mediates.


Precisely. Writers on essaybay are NOT employed by essaybay. Thus, we are not on essaybay's payroll. Get it yet or do I have to draw a picture for you?


Wrong. That's what the feedback system is for. The more feedback a writer gets, the more consistent the quality of his or her work appears to clients. I buy from Ebay occasionally but I never buy items from sellers who do not at least have 100 positive feedback to their name and zero negative feedback. I can go on and on and on about this but previous experience has shown that you will never back down no matter how silly you already appear to everyone else.


Oh please, that's your grossly unqualified opinion versus the financial success and customer approval (of both buyers and sellers) that Ebay's business model has achieved since the mid-90's. Go back to correcting the grammar of 10th grade compositions and leave writing about business, marketing, accouting, statistics, and all those other areas to the big boys. ^___^


Nice try. I was not asking for a weblink to support this definition:


but this outrageous claim:


Your sad attempt to make it look like I was referring to the first defintion you gave when I was clearly referring to the second is utterly pathetic. Are you now going to argue that "employees" and "people" are synonymous? :P