ps2 wrote continuously for several months for essaywriters.net. for the duration of that period, he was allowed to represent the company. are you saying that it is essaywriters.net's policy to willfully use "incompetent" writers? that argument of yours works against essaywriters.net as much as it does against ps2. you claim that the company is one of the best in the business, quality-wise. it follows then that ps2 is a competent writer--who deserves to be paid. which is which?

i sure have nothing against ukraine and their nationals. writersbeware is apparently just trying to establish facts of ownership.

i have really been paid by essaywriters.net, although i did get anxiety headaches over the excruciating waiting time on several of the payment periods. i'm still quite grateful but that doesn't take away the fact that the company does not pay all of its writers all the time and on time.

how i wish essaywriters.net would settle all payments due to everyone. in the case of ps2--granting for the sake of argument that he plagiarized some papers--why wasn't he paid for several months of his writing stint with essaywriters.net? if it were a quality issue, as you claim, why then was he allowed to continue writing for so long? that quality issue thing is really irreconcilable with ps2's payment history wherein he was paid for the later payment periods stretching several months but not for his earlier works.

i'm not siding with any party here. my concern is that promises made over the internet and elsewhere be kept so everyone will be happy. i believe it's time for a truce and settlement, essaywriters.net. just pay the writers for all the orders accepted by the customers--you can amicably discuss the rest.

sagehorse, sorry for missing a comma there. i meant to address writersbeware with the question of whether SHE's willing to help you with some advice.

anyway, do post again later so we'll all be aware of Projects1stClass.com's modus operandi.

good luck too! i suggest that you can perhaps e-mail writersbeware to get some tips on what to do. are you willing to help writersbeware?

until we know more about Projects1stClass.com, all writers then should BEWARE!

what happened with your case sagehorse? did Projects1stClass.com eventually pay you or is the site really a scam?

Academia-Research has its own share of non-payment and false plagiarism accusation complaints. check the following links from essayfraud:

essayfraud/forum/Academia-Research-and-MasterPapers-t222.htm l&hl=academia-research

essayfraud/forum/Academia-researchcom-and-Masterpaperscom-t213.html&hl=academia-research

essayfraud/forum/Academia-Research-False-Accusations-t295.ht ml&hl=academia-research

essayfraud/forum/Allowed-Dissenting-Vote-t235.html&hl=academ ia-research

essaywriters.net, when will this ever stop? i'm tired of your site being in the essayscam "news" on a religious basis.

hi Ps2. i completely agree with your plea for customers and prospective writers to avoid those scam sites because they scam writers. however, i really don't buy the claims that ESL writers mostly "deliver poor quality work." i mean, maybe MORE of the time because of language issues but to say "mostly" could be unfounded. aren't you an ESL yourself? there surely are ESL writers who do better than some EFL. while language forms the basis of an essay, writing involves much more than language expertise.

there have been some posts here recommending Academia-Research. i made one too. i 'm retracting my statement. i just visited essayfraud and there are several writers there complaining of NON-PAYMENT by that writing site. i guess those writers better air their complaints in our forum here as well.

her point seems to come from the end of writers--that Academia-Research pays (perhaps) its writers on time as opposed to Essaywriters. what it does to customers is beyond her scope apparently.

so far, i haven't seen anyone here complain of withheld payments by Academia although there are so few orders available from that writing site.

i'm really getting tired of this essaywriters.net. every time i visit this forum, you are almost always an issue. i already warned you through this forum a few months back that you need to be efficient in business so you can avoid all the bad PR made through this forum and similar sites. by paying your writers on time, everyone will be happy and your business will run more smoothly. you get to keep contented writers and even get their loyalties; at the same time, you get to attract more customers because orders are taken on a smooth and continuous basis. the writers earn, you earn more and hopefully, the customers are pleased. you get to retain your pool of writers, the good ones especially, and you save yourself the costs of constant advertising in search of new writers.

why can't you just pay Ps2 and the others so they'll stop their anti-essaywriters.net crusade? if you wish, you can temporarily set aside orders with issues but do pay them for orders accepted by the customers. you wouldn't have allowed them to keep on writing if they turned out nothing but ****.

from the viewpoint of any sane business entity, the bad press you are getting, combined with the need of having to constantly monitor this site and hire your spokespeople, causes you more headaches and more loses than the policy of prompt payment for your writers.

from your story, it looks like the foxy customer got 2 essays for the price of one. you should have taken the patience to explain to essay writers (who probably doesn't know any better) that it wasn't really a revision that the customer requested but rather, an essay on another topic.

in the first place, did the customer stipulate the language level he/she wants the original paper written? if that wasn't the case, then that "revision" was totally uncalled for.

also, why were you penalized for providing the source pages of another essay you wrote? i don't believe it's actually the writers' responsibility to supply them to customers--the bibliography should do. maybe if it's needed, fine, but to be charged for doing a favor, that's crazy!

just about every post here on writers being scammed talk of essaywriters.net. i wonder if there are other scamming academic essay sites out there in the internet.

but i'm glad essaywriters.net has paid you even partially, workfromhomemom. :)

what about you workfromhomemom? you're supposed to be waiting for your dues. have you already been paid in full?

i noticed that you joined this forum january of this year. at that time, many of the essaywriters.net's writers who complained of non-payment were already in the process of being paid. i presumed that the company managed to pay everyone in the forum back then, including you.

to be fair, i want to stress that they did eventually pay me in full although there were considerable, sometimes nerve-wracking delays. if essaywriters.net wishes not to be accused of scamming its writers, it should really shape up payment processing and delivery and pay all of its writers each and every time.

as to whether the site scams customers, that's a rather different story.

maybe because they have much fewer writers. this forum appears to have taken its toll on the size of their writing pool. I say so because i got a call from them last march--the first time they actually contacted me--asking me to check out and work on the orders. that was also the time when i noticed the orders were being hardly taken. of course i elected not to work on any order because by that time, i was beginning to get tire of late payments, long normal waiting payment period and the prospect of actually not getting paid. they appear to pay some writers, at least. however, i' wonder whether they'd do the same without the noise this forum has been making.

i'm not sure but being writers of academic essays, they surely know how to research in the internet. one way or the other, most of them can chance upon this site ultimately. if essaywriters fail to pay them, at least they'll have some idea what to do.

yeah, you really got me lex.

as for the "account termination," i'm not really complaining because i've actually stopped writing for them some 6 or so weeks ago. (onedrfl, i did stop writing for essaywriters december, came back after a month and a half, and then later decided that the anxiety over delayed payments is too much for my frail mind).

however, i do expect to be paid for the last 2 orders i did. the last one on "Eating Disorders" got me another Very Satisfied customer survey rating so I should really more than deserve my last payroll earnings.

i've got to post this. payment was indeed made through by essaywriters. i encountered some problem, however, through my own fault. the important thing is that payment was made.

you talking about yourself, that French sounding newbie with the amazingly very familiar legalistic verbiage and.......

how are you lex? you're so "lucky" you've been paid. and what's more, despite some identifiable and a few challenging posts, your account has not yet been terminated. :)

hey workfromhomemom, have you noticed how true voices here are being muffled by loooooooong, nonsensical .................................. rubbish!

[Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:35:14 +0300
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To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Account termination
Dear xxxxxxx,

essaywriters.net has terminated your account with the company in accordance with the following paragraph of the company policy:

"To keep loyal to essaywriters.net, never compromise it by any means available and strictly adhere to all of the terms and conditions mentioned above and on the website. The violation of the above mentioned will result into immediate termination of employment with no right for remuneration and the account resumption."

You will receive all of your dues in next three days the latest, regardless the payroll date.

Best regards,

essaywriters.net HR Dept]

dear beth,

just to inform you that i'm still unpaid. i know it really pays to be very patient with essaywriters.net when it comes to payments. it's well over "three days latest" and i'm still waiting.

regards,

essayer (you know me)

actually, it's more a case of educated disbelief.


this is exactly my point: why would a newbie writer--for a company he/she supposedly wants to "test" first-post all out in defense of said company? your penchant for the truth, plain and simple? hey, issues hurled here against essaywriters.net aren't a question of human rights, save mother nature or other humanistic principle. very few people would buy your professed motivation. sad to say, the suspicion on your intentions is further supported by your gloating over amy's ouster from this forum? or would you say that you're simply being who you are--proud in the face of victory?

sorry but i don't consider this point satisfactorily answered, much less settled. perhaps, it would never be.

as for your challenge, i have to turn it down because i fear being led to a trap. not that i have anything to hide but it's just that in the internet age, i've grown to be security conscious.

anyhow, despite my strong skepticism, i tell you that i respect your person and your presence here.

sorry rat, but it is simply incredible how a newbie writer would use and flaunt his/her "resources" and absence of "compunction" to bring down amy and would-be amy's in legalistic and highfalutin defense of essaywriters.net. you were so zealously anxious in your diatribe with amy and even gloated[/b] about your success in bringing her down so much so that such energy could only come from some deeper and much more beneficial form of association.

your aggressive loyalty could only come from being ........ paid!

ok, i'll give it to you that you are indeed employed as a new writer by my old company--full time as an infiltrator poster in this and perhaps, other forums.

as for your "facts," they are so loudly self-proclaimed as supposed "facts" that they're probably 'convoluted facts'.

on my part, i've been historically very fair to essaywriters. yes, "historically" because long before you appeared here, i made sure i admitted to all earnings i've received so as to deliberately balance my non-payment complaints. also, i even thanked the disguised presence of the company's liaison in this forum. kindly see one of my posts in the thread that was so unfortunately closed, in part through your campaign efforts, as follows:

[EssayWriters.net And Content Gurus: The Inside Truth
essayer
Reg: Dec 28, 06
Posts: 62
Profile

7:00pm Feb 7, 07 | Post #283

(in reply to esther's "Does everybody already receive his/her payments from essaywriters?")

thank you esther for asking that. being essaywriter's liaison here, your last posting only means that your company has decided to pay everyone.

i only wish management has vowed to make that a matter of policy. you see, regular and prompt payment is more efficient PR and makes for sound business management...]

i agree writers beware. so many infiltrators with loooong convoluted posts here.

your latest clincher slip sure is amusing. it really gave me a prolonged good laugh rat.

imagine, through a succession of mega and clincher slips, you gave yourself away. your affiliation with essaywriters.net used to be hypothetical "what if's". now, it's a closer-to-the-truth story of being an essaywriters newbie writer with "no compunction" to bring us down.


your sudden show in this forum has been suspect from the start but now, the average reader knows for certain that your supposed "fair, balanced and truthful" statements emanate from your conviction as an essaywriters.net agent.

of course, that's not the complete picture of your affiliation with my old company. with the "resources" you so loudly boasted of, you cannot just be a newbie writer with essaywriters.

but at least, you admitted to it. you should have really told us so from the start! there is absolutely nothing wrong with being essaywriters.net's rep. we actually welcome you here so you can give the company's side, possibly clear any misunderstanding between writers and the company and most importantly, facilitate the payment of earnings long delayed.

oh rat, i'm finding your presence here incredible but truly amusing. :)

why? are you one of essaywriters.net's writers????????????

didn't you repeatedly and vehemently deny having any affiliation with that company?

i don't know about the "successfully resolved" thing there because up until my "account termination" you have yet to make the transfer for my last earnings due over a month ago.

anyway, let me just kindly remind you of your communication (Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:35:14 +0300) re my "account termination":

You will receive all of your dues in next three days the latest, regardless the payroll date.

Best regards,

EssayWriters.net HR Dept

today is the 3rd day since and i'm still waiting....


thank you,

and i'll wait for the transfer till today....

i understand your seeming frustration over "all this scamming and cheating." however, starting a thread in this forum dedicated to fighting frauds and scams is a serious matter that should be respected by all.

i say this thread should be closed and better yet, deleted.

QWS, it's been two days. what's the status there with you? as for me, no payment transfer made yet.

essaywritersvictim and phoenix, kindly update us if you're still unpaid by essaywriters.net.

i miss beth. well at least, she's who she says she is.

The proof? Amy's "I've read about it 100 times" statement apparently refers to the numerous complaints of non-payment by essaywriters.net's writers who posted on this essayscam.org and other forums.

i haven't checked out the site you recommended lex but if requires some investment fee, no matter how minimal, then it should indeed be regarded as a spam.

You've made a mega major slip....

The average reader can now categorically see that you are a well-funded arm of a demolition scheme out to aggressively carry out a counter-propaganda to all the damages wrought by the successive and protracted complaints by essayscam forum posters against the writing site(s) of your financier(s).

tell us about your "resources" rat. who's funding your research and expertise to put down those who make "false claims" against competitor sites? the competitor of the competitor?

i also got accepted at academia-research.com but i abandoned the position until my account lapsed because i tell you, they have practically no orders to work on there. also, the few times i surfed the site, i chanced upon several orders by irate customers asking for revisions. one, who asked that a revision be revised anew, was so mad he was saying something like "You should be ashamed of yourself for giving me a supposed revision but which is based on an incorrectly written original."

i'm not saying that all orders turned in are like that but reading several sorely unsatisfied customers' messages sure turned me off.

guess what qws, i also got the "account termination" e-mail from essaywriters.net for the same reason. they also gave the same promise of payment of remaining earnings balance within 3 days.

now, i'm a very objective person. i did suffer considerable anxiety over payment delays and especially over the prospects of not being paid last christmas season; however, i have to put on record that they did pay me eventually a total of some 830 dollars. but then again, i guess i deserve every penny of it since i did render professional service for their customers, several of whom gave me very satisfied survey ratings.

i'll sure wait for the $52 i have still have with them. if only they had even a modicum of sound business sense....

in my case sugarlips, i have less than a hundred bucks balance with them. they initiated the transfer but based on the xoom.com transaction history, essaywriters canceled it and the amount refunded. according to the company, however, it was xoom.com itself that made the cancellation because of the monthly limits reached. but i'm wondering why was it initially approved by xoom.com in the first place.

i don't need to insist that you're wrong. yours and beth's (essaywriters.net) conflicting statements tell me one of you is direly wrong or untruthful.

i insist on getting the truth. how were you paid? e-gold? very well, then essaywriters.net lied to me! they told me earlier through the messaging system and through this forum that:


if i were to believe your postings, then i have to conclude that essaywriters.net simply wanted to delay transferring payment to me.


i completely agree with you qws. they kept telling writers that wire transfer is a good alternative to paypal.

i certainly hope you get paid soon. in my case, i have to wait till the next payment period because the under-$100 balance i have with them is not worth the e-gold transfer which they say is operational now.