Rule 5 says nothing about starting fights. It's a shame that, after all this, you still don't seem to understand what rule #5 says.

Stop talking about me. I ended it and you decided to write this clearly false statement:

Your behavior resembles that of an internet stalker. Stop talking about me and I will be happy to cease communications with you. Keep making false statements about me and I will certainly respond.

Your ability to read minds still sucks. Don't quit your day job.


Cue the violins.


Yup.

Dearbats, I appreciate your opinion. In most cases, I believe that meeting a bully with strength is the best recourse, but in this situation, I believe you are correct.

Have a great weekend.

Well Dearbats, WB won't stop lying about me. What do you think I should do? Should I just remain silent and let her keep on lying? Do you think it's clear to readers that she is just a bully or do I need to respond to every inaccuracy in her latest post to set the record straight?

What do you think about the posts from new members who left b/c of WB's abusive language? As a relatively new member to the forum yourself, have you had any run-ins with our forum ambassador that you would like to share? I would appreciate your advice and input on the matter.

You know, it's funny, but as I looked back at my very first post on this forum, the responses from WB included insults and cursing. I thought it odd back then but I guess it was just par for the course.


I like the nickname!

Fair enough Dearbats, enough is enough.

Never said that. Stop twisting what I wrote.
Your insults outnumber your helpful posts.


Being helpful doesn't justify your rampant disrespect. Why don't you get it?


Nope, not my first post. And it's beside the point, this isn't about you and me, no matter how much you want to make it so. Being nice to one person occasionally doesn't mean you can brazenly attack others.


So, I got you to apologize and admit wrong, but my personal vendetta still remains? That's ridiculous. Again, you are so desperate to divert attention from your own bad behavior that you are grasping at the flimsiest of straws.

My honest response:


Almost two years of you using this forum as your personal toilet is quite enough, thanks.

So because you backed down in a disagreement with me once, you think I should just stand by and let you attack, insult, belittle and bully others? Sorry, I don't work that way. You being nice to me doesn't make it ok for you to be rude and disrespectful toward others.

But by posting the apology, you just proved to anyone reading that I don't have a reason to have a personal grudge against you. Your last argument just crumbled.

This should not be particularly confusing or disturbing for you. You want to keep bringing up that old thread like it's the cause for my posts. It is not. This is not personal to me.

You are consistently breaking the rules of this forum, while lecturing people on the need to follow the rules. After two years of watching you rabidly attack anyone who does not agree with you, driving off new people in the process, accusing people without evidence, and watching folks politely suggest that you change your posting style, to no avail, I decided that a more aggressive and open rhetorical strategy was necessary.

The majority of your posts do not benefit this forum. You drive people away in disgust with your foul, over the top language.

Stop using this forum to degrade, lecture, correct, scold, belittle and curse others. There is no definition of respect that justifies your behavior.


Now THAT is funny.

So I'm causing problems by pointing out that you have driven readers away from this forum? No one believes that except.... well, I don't think even you do.

Look, this issue isn't new, this has been going on for two years now. This is also not the first time that I, and others, have pointed out that you are disrespectful (to put it lightly).

I'm not the cause of the problems, YOU are.


You apologized for accusing me for "ADVERTISING" (as you capitalized it) on this thread? Really? I didn't see it, I must have missed it when looking at the screaming baby picture that you tried to claim was me. Please quote your apology so I can see it, thanks.

So now all of the traffic visiting this site is because of you? Right...

You've caused readers to leave the forum, that is a FACT. I posted proof that you have specifically driven readers away because of your abusive verbal behavior.

What look to be 22 threads of merit (without clicking on every one, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt).

Yet, eclipsed by the torrent of insults only partially captured here: essayscam/forum/ot/discussion-rule-please-define-respectful-985/.

Any of those those threads could exist without you going all out and attacking anyone who suggests that you might not be 100% right. Thank you for proving my point. You could contribute positively without the excessive insults if you chose to do so.

My guess is that you simply don't care. Which is why the forum gets posts like these:


Both posts are by Gilda, a member who made 2 posts in bewilderment at the status of this forum, both times in direct response to the petty bickering involving WB and her most recent target of choice.

And WB's response:


What a great response from WB, the forum ambassador.

And it's not just Gilda who's made this comment:

I could post a lot more but that's enough for now. New readers, visiting the forum for helpful information, turned off by WB's abrasive and rude responses that could have easily been handled in a less obnoxious manner. At least these examples took the time to post her dismay, my guess is that most new members simply leave the forum in disgust without bothering to post. Why should they bother, when they'll just get cursed at and insulted by WB.

Stop using this forum as the toilet for your verbal diarrhea.

Since CONTEXT will no doubt be the defense, here are the links for the above comments so people can read the threads:

https://essayscam.org/forum/gt/percentage-sites-genuine-857/2/

https://essayscam.org/forum/es/experiences-writers-finally-found-919/

Thanks for your permission!


Yes, if only you were capable of contributing positive information without the requisite arrogance, accusations, vulgarity and insults. If you were able to do that, I'd keep applauding.

I know what it means. I also know that you wrote the sentence as a condescending command, written with all your authority as the not quite "longest-standing" member of the forum.

No doubt "take a breather" was posted out of the kindness of your heart.

Wb, are you OK? Take your meds.

More hypocrisy from WB. WB can accuse me of working for companies, of advertising for them, without evidence, of pushing my "favorite" company, but if someone does that to her... WATCH OUT OMGZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Sure I'm here. You called me a liar multiple times, accused me of promoting and advertising, posted an obnoxious picture, conceded that you're a hypocrite when it comes to the rules, and now you want my help?

And your defense was pathetic - you said you thought I didn't work for a fraud, leaving it open for folks to question that I might, when you full well know that I'm an American, legit writer from the almost 2 years I've been a poster on this board.


Hey, if it's OK for you to be rude and insulting toward other posters, it must be OK for everyone else too.

But don't worry, I won't cross some lines, unlike you. For example, I won't insult your mom, post pictures that I claim are you, threaten to have you beat up, equate you to an animal... I know those are all tricks you like to do, but I won't be stooping to your level.

PS- Wow, you removed the picture of the baby crying WB. Maybe there is hope for you yet. Or maybe you are starting to see that your abusive behavior can't be overlooked forever by the mod.

I think this is an example of the quality of writing from a particular company that the OP was unhappy with. The explanation is here.

I'd like to call attention to Stu4's join date: March 13, 2006. Note that Stu4 joined the forum before WB, making this claim a lie:

Post the quote to prove this statement. You won't.

Why? B/c I never claimed this. I said that you didn't limit your argument to those foreign sites. The fact that you can't tell the difference speaks volumes about your reading comprehension. Since you didn't answer it the first time and want to pretend that I didn't answer you, I'll repost it for you here, so it's very convenient for you:

Get help. There have been great strides in the development of medications for whatever pervasive developmental disorder you have.

What is the proof of your disorder? Let me present my evidence: /forum/ot/discussion-rule-define-respectful-985/

The writing sample is normal (assuming it's not extensive. Some scam companies will ask for several different samples and then not hire the writer, keeping the samples for themselves for resale).

The copy of quals is normal, the general contact details, etc.

The only thing that might give me pause is the request for the DL/passport. But it's been several years since I applied to a company so I'm not sure if I'm just not remembering the request or if it's perhaps different if you apply to a company who hires international writers.

Personally, I've never been a fan of giving anyone my bank details, as I prefer to get paid with mailed, paper checks. However, again, that might be a limitation caused by being international.

First, learn how to count.
Second, you accused me first.
Third, learn how to count (just in case you missed it).
50 is not true. About 50 is not close to being true. So you are lying again, huh?

Thank you for the more personal insults. Every insult proves my point to be true.


Nope. You still don't get it huh? I'll spell it out for you again:

Yes, default to the personal attacks when you have nothing of substance to say.

Way to keep consistent WB.

LOL. Hilarous.

You break the rules and you don't even care.
You correct others for breaking them, but hold yourself to a higher standard.
Yes, that makes you a hypocrite.

Your spins are pathetic. You call me a liar b/c you attempt to destroy the character of anyone who disagrees with you. You get caught in lies yourself and try to pretend they don't exist. Facts and reality don't matter to you.


You didn't clarify, you made that a separate argument. Nice try to spin. You got caught in another lie. You lied to try to make yourself look all important to this forum. Reading over some of your past posts, you've actually made the claim false claim in other posts as well. Just no one called you out on the lie. Fail.


I didn't say it was. Try reading what I wrote instead of reading what you WANT to see.


I already mentioned that in this thread. Try to keep up.


Another lie and a spin by you.
And a pointleses lie at that.

I'm what, in the top 10, perhaps the top 5, of most posts and being around the longest on this forum... but according to you I'm clueless about the state of the forum. Whatever, you're dodging b/c you've been caught lying again and again and again.


So every time you've insulted someone on this forum, it's b/c you were attacked first. Is that really the argument you want to make? When I show you insulting and attacking first, what are you going to do then?

Oh, and WB, in your listing of my comments, you forgot to answer this. I'm highlighting it so maybe you can remember this time:

I've been around for longer than that and I don't think it has.

But that's beside the point, the rules haven't changed. I think you're tired because you just don't seem to be getting it.

You broke the rules then, like you are continuing to do now. Why doesn't that bother you? You point out all the time that people are breaking the rules but do so yourself with impunity: it's quintessential hypocrisy.

Has the RULE changed in those 18 months? No, it hasn't.


I'll name two: Stu4 and Major. I believe Pious and others as well, but those are enough.
Proof that you LIED.
Like you LIED about "that site" being my favorite.
We'll use this post to keep a running tally of your lies in this thread. That's 2 so far.


You correct people when they break the rules all the time. How is that any business of yours? Stop breaking the rules.


I told FW to shut up WITH provocation. He was using the forum to advertise his services, like he had multiple times in the past. You tell people who use this forum to advertise to stop all the time, I was no different.

So, another LIE by you. We're up to what, 3 in this thread alone?


Another LIE WB. I can post quotes of you talking about the company that FreelanceWriter works for. Want to see them?

That's lie number 4, ouch.


You've used animal names to attack more than one person on this forum. Monkey-related phrases are one of your favorite default insults.

We'll call that half a life b/c maybe you're just misremembering. Up to 4.5.




The main argument is that you're abrasive, loud, obnoxious, foul-tempered and crude. You could make the forum a better place by posting helpful information without consistently hurling insults. I won that argument long ago, you aren't even trying to argue it.

Total LIE count by WB this thread: 4.5.

What? What happened to:


There is just always a good excuse for you to break the rules!

Matt, to clarify:

1. You are applying as a writer?
2. What private and important information did Prospect request?

I'm intentionally trying to hide the facts by posting the link to the thread for readers to see? You can't be serious.

People can read the posts and see that I'm not lying. You, however, continue to use your foul and abusive language, including profanity. You are breaking the fifth rule of this forum and should be banned or censured.

I was doing a bit of searching through the forums and found this bit of ironic wisdom.


See that? There is no excuse for breaking the rules, not even for you WB.

Well, I have been reading up on some back posts and I did find something else rather interesting. In the following quote, WB explains her personal definition of name-dropping:


So we're all clear on WB's definition of name-dropping right? If someone brings up the name of a site that doesn't already exist in the thread, that's name-dropping (according to WB).

So the title of this thread is "Graduate research, another fraudulent company."

Note: there is no company named in the title or the original thread.

Now, if you scroll a bit down, you find this post by WB:


Doh. Could it be WB that you are guilty of name dropping?

Note to WB: Maybe it's time for you to help the mod edit some of your own posts!

EW stop hijacking my argument with WB. Surely, you can argue in another thread!


No you aren't, there are members who have been around for longer.
Do I get to point out that you are lying?


And, by far, the most insults. I wonder what percentage of your posts are predominantly insults. 80%? 85%? That would be an interesting count.

I'm pretty sure you are the only member of this forum to threaten to send your husband to beat someone up too. What a great accomplishment!


It wasn't unprovoked or particularly rude. I told him to shut up because he once again used the forum to advertise his services. And he accused someone of lying with no evidence to back it up. He responded by calling me the C-Word. Note you didn't say anything to him about that.

But "shut up" = rude, huh? On a scale of 1-10, it was a 1, maybe a 2. How about we rate some of your comments. What about your physical threats against another poster, that has to be, what, an 8 at least? And animal names used to attack members of the forum? Seven?

Besides, we all know that if he didn't work for a company you deem legit (and have defended multiple times on this forum), you would have said much much worse.

OooOoo, you got caught in a lie and now want it forgotten. That's funny.

Dear WB,

Thank you so much for pointing out that the thread still exists so I have evidence.

For anyone who cares to read it, the thread is here: essayscam.org/forum/es/words-per-page-customers-beware-747/

Your argument (which you were so kind to bold) was this:


As the statement above proves, you did not leave ANY room for the existence of legit companies that provide less than 300 words a page, which was MY ARGUMENT.

And then you concluded with:

Your conclusion, again, said nothing about the argument being specific to foreign ripoffs. You made a blanket statement to avoid any sites that only provide 225-275 words. The problem with your argument is that there are legit companies who do provide less then 300 words a page, proving that your guideline was clearly flawed.

Therefore, I was correct when I wrote this:


Folks can read the first post, the conclusion and the bolded argument , and the thread to see that I'm right and that you are obfuscating.

I won't hold my breath waiting for an apology for your calling me a liar. I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt but it was obviously wasted.

In all honesty, I don't go anywhere without my laptop. Sad but true.

Gfi3000, any luck with a response? I didn't mean to sound too snippy but, as a writer, it can get really annoying when bombarded with emails.

Again, a misrepresentation.

I pointed out that you had name-dropped previously by naming "that site" as legit. That point was critical to my argument - I specifically looked for a company that you had named as legit and then demonstrated that the legit company did not meet your 300 words per page litmus test for legitimacy.

By demonstrating that it was possible for a legit (as identified by you) company to not provide 300 words/page, I disproved your argument.

That isn't the same as me name-dropping. I just pointed out an inconsistency in your posts.

I assume you are starting to understand that since you gave up on calling it my "favorite" site.


This sentence is only mildly comprehensible. Try again.

And do you really think you can read my mind and motivations? You've already swung and missed in your assertion about my favorite site. Your jedi mind tricks don't work on me.


It's also healthy to laugh at your hypocrisy: all your claims that people provide evidence while refusing to provide it yourself. That's funny.

But wrong about what? That you are unnecessarily rude and obnoxious on this board? I don't see you disproving that... you insulted first on this thread, not me. You conceded that point. You aren't a mod but you run around correcting other people's posts. You could just post helpful information without the insults, but you won't even entertain that as an option. You accuse anyone who doesn't agree with you with being a fraud or a criminal, just like you insinuated with me and my not so favorite site.

And I can easily start quoting a slew of insults by you on this board - on just the front page of the forum's most recent posts.


I don't envy the mod those "helpful" conversations. But I guess that explains why you get to consistently break the rules of this forum.

You know which rule I'm thinking of? Your favorite no doubt:
"All posters agree to be respectful to each other."


So why haven't you convinced the mod to remove all of the other posts talking about other legit companies? Seems pretty fickle on your part.

But I'll remember this. The next time that a company I personally know to be legit is criticized by a poster, I'll be sure to defend that company with the proof of my experience. And you had better not criticize or accuse me of promotion.


You're the one making the assertion. It's your burden to provide the evidence. So let's see it.

Or let's not. I don't care. The fact is, you could benefit the forum without engaging in the bullying or name-calling, again and again and again.


I can't tell if you are lying or simply misremembering. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and believe that you just aren't remembering correctly since it looks like the post has been deleted. I'll refresh your memory: In your first post, you did NOT specify that your argument was specific to frauds from the Ukraine and Pakistan. In fact, we discussed that point later and I stated that, had you made that specification early on, I would probably not have bothered to post. Remember now? Good.

Do you have evidence of that? Yes, that's a joke. I crack myself up.

Look, there isn't a forced choice, is there? You can still make valuable contributions without all the abrasive bullying, right?

I appreciate a well placed put down as much as the next person, but yeesh, every major thread on this forum seems to contain you fighting with someone else or telling them what to do.


That company isn't my personal favorite. You have no idea who my personal favorite is. I'd post it but that would be against the rules, wouldn't it?


Is that thread still around or was it deleted? B/c you are now completely misrepresenting my position. For the record, I didn't defend any particular site. I brought up "that site" as an example because I thought we would both agree that it was a legit site (as you yourself had noted its legitimacy). I brought up another site as well but you ignored that one, so we didn't need to talk about it. I didn't care about "that site" except to demonstrate that I thought your argument that the number of words per page identified frauds was incorrect. I still believe that to be the case. But that has nothing to do with my need to defend "that site." See how I don't even mention "that site" b/c I have no interest in promotion. So now, anyone not familiar with "that thread" will have no clue what "that site" means but they can perhaps get a good laugh about how silly this is getting.

I'm fairly certain that you can search through this forum and find criticisms of "that site" without a response from me. Does that make my house in order?

But, speaking of "that thread," both you and I identified a couple of companies as being legit. Was that against the rules? I certainly didn't think so and I don't think you did either but we certainly talked more about the companies than the one revised line in the OP of this thread.

I don't always get personal. In fact, I rarely get personal. You would be hard pressed to find examples of me getting personal. You have about 452 posts to look through to try to find me getting personal. I did go after that sexist guy who insulted you, I guess that could count, but maybe you'll give me a free pass since I was defending you.

On the other hand, you like to use hyperbole as part of a strategy for character assassination. Everyone who disagrees with you is a crook or a fraud or getting personal, I am fully awaiting the accusation of being a fraud owner myself one of these days. So I guess your assertion isn't all that surprising.

I also didn't insult you.

And, as always, you insult first:


I have more than half a brain, thank you. You, however, drop insults so casually in your posts that I think you don't even realize it anymore. You insulted John first, not the other way around. Or was "Mr. 2 Posts" a term of endearment?


I never said that you needed my permission to post. I merely exercised my right to express my opinion, an opinion that does not reflect the view of this forum or website.

And other people don't need your permission to post either, get it?


Nope, answered, not persuasive and gave reasons why. You just conveniently forgot that part.


And all my other examples, still standing. But you conveniently ignore those.

And, as I posted, the rules say that anything can get removed at the sole discretion of a mod. You, however, are not the mod and you should stop acting like it. That is in the best interests of this forum, as your abrasive behavior no doubt drives many readers away.


You also post when a company that you think is legit gets called out. That is very different from responding because you, personally, get called out. Do you want quotes of the companies that you've noted are legit where you were not called out? It won't be difficult to find. Although, admittedly, most of the examples were about that company which cannot be named, so those posts may not be around anymore. Pity.

That is not correct. The OP offered his opinion, not a recommendation. Opinions are well within the scope of the rules of the forum. Rule #2:

"All posts are the property of the posters. Such posts express the personal views and opinions of the poster which may or may not be the opinions of EssayScam.org."


I never said you promoted or recommended a company. Use your vaunted reading comprehension skills. I said that you have said that a company is legit. You didn't deny that. This person too only stated that a company is legit. That is not the same as a promotion or an advertisement.

You know why I know I'm right and you're wrong? B/c there is a long list of posts stating that different companies are legit left up on this forum for anyone to read. Do a search of "legit" on the forum and you will see ppl naming the following as all legit: Papermasters (including you), CustomPapers.com, Flashpoint Education, Elephant Essays, and probably a slew of others that I'm not remembering. Even "the company that must not be named" has been labeled as legit, more than once, by you.

Your justification for why it's ok for you to break what you believe to be the rules, but not others, isn't persuasive. And you are forgetting the rule where the call about what constitutes an advertisement is up to the moderator:

"EssayScam and its moderators have the sole discretion to determine what constitutes an advertisement."

See the sole discretion part? You aren't a mod. Stop acting like one. If a site mod decides that the post isn't appropriate, the mod can remove it. If you think that the post is out of line, you can contact the mod and let them make the call (something I have done myself on different occasions).

However, I don't think the one line is going to be an issue, frankly. But more importantly, you shouldn't be bullying new posters by twisting the rules and attempting to silence them. It's gotten really old.

That line doesn't have to go unless there is evidence that it is a scam company.
WB, you state that companies are legit all the time.

5 messages in one day? Maybe you should chill out a bit, writers don't live with a computer shackled to their ankles.

Or, just send support an email, they should respond.

Spend and claim deductions. Computer gear, office furniture, office supplies and the like are all legal and quite eligible if you use them for work support. I claim things like my internet connection, my roaming connection, my cell phone line (which is used for work) things of that nature. I highly recommend travel writing simply because it gives you so many opportunities for deductions that even small assignments can be very lucrative.

You can also claim things like your home office (if you work at home) as part of your deductions.

A good accountant should be able to point you in the right direction.

Taking private recommendations from anonymous persons met over the internet at a fraud forum is really stupid, FYI. Don't do it or don't complain when you get scammed.

Hmm.. if this is just going to degenerate into another fight between you two, I think I'll just say good night.

Good night =p