No offense taken. Much unlike yourself, I can handle the personal attacks just fine. Just pointing out another one of your lies. I guess this mean that you're tucking your tail again and running off.

Note true. You're consternation amounts to weak pleas to the mods as if they are some ethereal beings that grant wishes. You have no problem skewering scammers and delicately avoid calling out the people who sell ad space to those who claim to maintain a forum that exposes them at the same time.

I've killed you in every debate. That's why you've called for my banishment.


More false statements. Never said that. Again, proof? You should banish yourself now. Is this where I cry out to the Mods?


So that means that you're only goal here is harassing others. Following your constantly changing logic, this means that you need to be banned. It also means that you're in a sad state that you have to come to a place like this for fun.

And for the record Mr. 80 bucks an hour, my subreddit is not a forum. That's not how they work. Yes, it is not taking off like I wanted, but it was never intended to replace EssayScam. That's just another lie from you and W2B.

More unsubstantiated accusations?


More lies. You've never given a straight answer about why you are here. Only a very depraved person would spend every day for the past four years on forum like this just because its fun. What else do you do for fun? Clip your toenails on the bus?

You have also stated on many occasions that it is foul play to come here for self-promotion when the terms of the forum clearly allow this and, most importantly, there is no other reason for being here. If so, then signature bars would not exist and the owners would not allow scam sites to advertise in the banner.

You still have not addressed why it is that you complain about scam ads in the banner and not about the site owners who allow such ads. This makes you one shady character in indeed.

You were, in fact, referring to me among others. You're more of shape shifter than a troll.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure that banning "my IP" would be ineffective.

Yet another thing a dishonest person would say. Keep going. You were doing much better whining about my posts.

The status quo in this forum has not changed since I joined. There is no need to change your position. This simply means that you'll say anything to suit your needs at any given time, which is exactly what scammers and con men do.

Proof? I guess that's just an unsubstantiated accusation? I guess that you'll have to ban yourself.


I have suggested these as possible explanations for your suspicious behavior. You have likewise made suggestions about me. Yet again, double standards. Besides, I had retracted all of those explanations long ago in favor of poor character and low intellect toward explaining your behavior. That's why I refer to you as Dolt75.


There are many, many examples where you have failed to apply this ad hoc criterion to your own posts. And, the terms of this forum add no such criteria to that of making personal attacks.

You're just unhappy that you get destroyed in anything that resembles a debate. You and Selfless2BigBucks behave like school children on the playground. Its all fun and games when you get to bully everyone else, but as soon as someone stands up to your antics you're ready to take your ball and go home. How about showing some backbone and actually holding your own in the bickering mess that you alone have created.

You simply can't answer my criticisms, so you ask your Mod Almighty to have me banned.

Thanks for the reminder that you don't stick to your word.

Who are you thanking? There is no Mod. But seriously, how do we not know that the ad ran its course according to what was paid? And why aren't you complaining about the fact that your holy Mod takes ads from obvious scammers? Who's scamming who? It's certainly not clear.


This is a bit subjective. You have responded with nothing but attacks every time I have attempted to pose any sort of civil discourse with you. Also, again, the terms clearly state the personal attacks are par for the course. You are clearly applying a double standard here.

In my opinion, it is you that needs banned for continually attacking those who come here to find out about essay scams.

He has said this before on several occasions, but always comes back because, as he projects on others, he is "completely starved [for] attention."

He's always praying to his Mod to have members removed for activities in which he actively engages and for comments that fall entirely within the terms of the forum. You're not supposed to be a member here when you don't like being ridiculed. Both Ed75 and Wanker2BWarbucks are always quick to point this out to others, but complain the moment someone calls them out.

They act like this is their own forum and actively chase out everybody else. This alone is indicative of their shady and dishonest motives. Don't be fooled. They're not here to help anybody but themselves.


He has said this before on several occasions, but always comes back because, as he projects on others, he is "completely starved [for] attention."

He's always praying to his Mod to have members removed for activities in which he actively engages and for comments that fall entirely within the terms of the forum. You're not supposed to be a member here when you don't like being ridiculed. Both Ed75 and Wanker2BWarbucks are always quick to point this out to others, but complain the moment someone calls them out.

They act like this is their own forum and actively chase out everybody else. This alone is indicative of their shady and dishonest motives. Don't be fooled. They're not here to help anybody but themselves.

I grew up in Appalachia, so I don't have a primary language. Left on my own, I tend to quickly revert back to drinking too much alcohol and mumbling under my breath.

You're fitting right in with this crowd by skirting the main issues and diving right in for personal attacks. This is your AMA and you have so far failed to answer of the harshest criticisms. So in effect, everything that you have said so far can be considered to be untrue or at least greatly exagerated.

I apologize for referring to you and soul in the same post.

Yes, but if you don't think about your work in terms of time AND money, then you're nuts. It's simple. I have a target income for a given day, week, month, year, etc. Once I hit those targets then I hang with my family, go exercise, work in the garden, take a vacation, and generally live a thing called life that I otherwise wouldn't have if I did not account for my time spent working.

So yes, you did make $80 in one hour if you finished that job in less than one hour. As a freelancer in any field, your rate is part of a stochastic process and is entirely relative to the time scale you decide to use. Even Mr. A+ Math can tell you this after he's done counting his money. If I finished an $80 job (writing or otherwise) in less than one hour, which does not happen as much as I would like, then I'm off to fap away on something else for the next hour.

It seems to me that you're hyper fixated on writing 101-level papers as your soul source of income? You should consult with the uber wealthy W2B. She'll more than likely shower you with her selfless generosity.

Hardly bragging. You're just setting up another one of your straw men. Its especially weird in this case when this AMA is all about bragging, nothing more or less.

I'm not rolling in the cash like Warren2Buffet and Sam A+ Walton, but neither am I whoring myself out for a few bucks.

And you're the one who claims to make $80 per hour. Talk about bragging...

Yes. It also means that you can't read very well.

Well, that's not true. I don't make a steady $50 per hour all year long, some days it works out to be that much, or much more, depending the work and my mood. Professional ghostwriting, when I get it, definitely pays that. I don't wear a workometer, but I figured that my average rate has crept up above $30 per hour, which is more than most non-software engineers with a BS that are not from an ivy league or big state school. And all this talk about wages, Mr. Math, means nothing without cost of living taken into account. Sure, I've met plenty of engineers with just a BS that make what appears to be an incredibly attractive rate, but they live in places like Geneva, London, NYC, and SF. Or they're hanging out in the middle of the Australian outback and Alaska getting fat and wearing out their knob with their roughneck boyfriends. Again, if engineering is so awesome, then what the heck are you doing here in this cesspool? You said it yourself that you wouldn't associate your company name with a forum like this, yet you want to do an AMA? You need to pray to Mod for forgiveness!

At any rate, I'm not the one who set up an AMA on EssayScam without verifying my identity. I can do that too: "Hey everyone, I'm an astronaut, cowboy, and a fireman. Wildly successful at all three! Ask me anything except for my name and my affiliations."

Your numbers don't check out and there is no verification of your identity. Notice how nobody else has asked you a single question? Your delusion of grandeur is on par with W2B Warbucks. Yes, you can say the same about me, but again, I'm not posting a ridiculous AMA on this forum. Furthermore, anybody who wants to know my identity can simply send me a PM.


Never said that. Now you're making stuff up. Seems like a desperate move for someone of your selfless and wealthy status. Why can you dish it out and not take it, "...in order to avoid being ridiculed or name-called by other posters, one should not become an EssayScam forum member and/or one should not post any message on the forum." Geez, always a different set of rules for the 1%!

Don't go into medicine. You're attempting to address the symptom and not the actual problem. Although, there is good money in pain pills.

Warren2Buffet directly claims to be here as a selfless act. This may indeed qualify as a new pig species. Perhaps Sus way2benevolentium?

I am absolutely blown away by the esteemed company I have found on EssayScam. Who would have known that fantastically successful essay tycoons, wealthy investors, and deep-pocketed philanthropists would be taking time out of their busy schedules to provide a free education on economics, business, and professional writing? Wow. Aplus has found so much success as an engineer that he decided use his incredible skills to help poor college students cheat. And now he's here to tell us all how he succeeded in doing so! He should team up with the Shadow Scholar and write a book. Yay! And Warren2Buffet, what can I say? Double wow! Your "selfless" crusade to bring honesty to cheating is nothing short of godly.

I am humbled by your modesty and "selflessness." Have you ever thought of taking your great wealth and forming a foundation devoted to educating the illiterate on the proper way to hire a ghostwriter? It would be right up there with the Bill & Melinda Gate Foundation.

Oooh, look at W2B, so wealthy and yet so selfless. We should all aspire to donate as much time to the highly worthy cause of exposing essay scams such that another poor, poor college student will be spared.

Those are really strong words from the selfless champion of academic writing. I must have really screwed up to have drawn the ire of the immensely generous W2B Warbucks.

Oooh nooo, I've upset the Warren Buffet of EssayScam! What happens if she uses her giant bleeding and selfless heart to direct all of her abundant resources to prove me wrong?!?!?

Sources: A few companies, one of which advertises in EssayDirectory. I'm not allowed to name these companies.


That's rich. You, an independently wealthy woman, spend nearly all of your time on an obscure forum bashing ESLers and scammers, arguing, and stating the obvious over and over again. Given the effort that you've devoted to this, you could have done a lot for a cause that actually matters. How about poverty, inequality, child abuse, or cancer? Nope, those causes are too easy. You'll go with saving the low-intelligence college students from the ever-present scourge of ESL essay writing scams that plagues the planet. You've selflessly devoted yourself to pointing out the obvious toward helping college kids cheat the system. You're a saint.

You don't have to be a writer to be a hack. We've already established that you are incapable of writing. Get over yourself.

You prompted me to compile some of the data I've collected this past year. Out of a few thousand separate client inquiries for academic writing (undergrad, masters, and doctorate levels) this past year, only 13% requested MLA, whereas APA (43%) and Chicago (20%) took the lead.

Go ahead and run the stats on the efa jobs. Prove yourself with some real data, but I doubt that you know how to do your own research.

If you have beaten me back and handed my butt to me so many times, then why do you spend so much time taking on everything I write here. You can't possibly be making any money doing that. And if you are doing it for fun or some sense of obligation toward righting my wrongs, then you really do have no credibility as even an anonymous internet personality. You're basically worth less than zero.

And thanks for the tid bit. You slipped. Finally. You're a hard person to nail down. Catcha some other time.

It was an experiment and I had some extra cash. It paid off. Like I said, I paid the dues and fee and made that investment back plus a whole lot more and right away. The gigs from efa represent a fraction of my work while still being a profitable investment. That's effing awesome! It's nice that I don't have to pound the pavement for work. The jobs show up in my e-mail, I send in my awesome CV, and bingo! Plus I jump-started my education on the business while being paid to do so. In terms of investing, I win! Whether I stay with efa in the future is another issue entirely.

I'd say that if you cannot afford the dues and fee of efa, then maybe you should consider another business. It's pocket change.

I just started the freelance thing a year ago and already have a fairly comfortable income. But yes, you are right that I am not very in touch with this industry; however, I 'm making progress by leaps and bounds. If I had waited to learn and pay dues like you, Ed75, had suggested long ago, then I'd still be doing work for folks like the Walmart wannbe in Canada. If I learned anything about working in this world, it is that hard work and waiting for things to happen to me do not pay off.

Sex: Male.
Occupation: Creative insults at the expense of Ed75.

Seriously, who is the religious whack job editing the word 'sex'? Its not like I'm saying that I had an anal three way with Jesus or the prophet Muhammad. Neither one of those dudes would be down with the enormous size of my anaconda.

How many times do you have edit a small post, Ed75?

I get it that you're all a bunch of second-rate hacks. That's okay. You have your place and serve your respective niches.

W2B lists too many erroneous statements to bother responding. For example, I made my dues and fee back and then some on the first job via the efa. The efa membership volume and the number of academic writing jobs speak otherwise to your poor observations. I'm sorry that you lack the credentials to be a functioning member. Again, know your place or remain silent. You're way off on the MLA thing, regardless of your source. At any rate, each one of your bullet points is wrong.

And you keep going on about defeating me and chasing me out of here. Yawn. I come back when I have time to kill. It has nothing to do with your delusions of grandeur. There is no cycle, only busy and not busy. I apologize for not keeping an ever-present watch on the forum. I'll leave that to you and your cronies. The worst that I can be accussed of is wasting time here arguing with you nut jobs.

Just as a point of clarification: I don't write essays for 101 level classes and the like. This is nowhere near my niche.

And aplus, you're still not paying attention and haven't a clue what engineers and accountants make. A writer certainly can make more than the average of these two professions (please spare the obvious bureau of labor statistics argument - it has already been shown by many that these numbers are way off the mark). As pointed out by the biggest dolt (Ed75) on this forum, the volume you quoted does not make you a successful businessman. Give it a break already.

You guys are a bit tiring.

What really gets me more than anything else about this forum are the little tweaks and edits that the so-called Mod makes. Look at post #54 above: the letter 'e' was removed from the word 's*x' to read 'sx'. How is it that I pray to this Mod? Do I write in all caps? How do I get my s*x back?

It's not my BS. That's the industry standard, not the graphophobius standard. Pay attention. Look it up (the-efa.org/res/rates.php) or learn your place by remaining silent. This is regardless of style, font, etc.

Talk about showing your ignorance! The most common style in academic writing is definitely not MLA. Show us the data, evidence, proof, blah, blah, blah. You have nothing.

You really don't have a clue about anything outside of the EssayScam universe, do you? What else have you done with your life other than harass people and point out the obvious? You have no affiliation with any company or institution and nothing to show that you have any expertise to share. You're just an anonymous entity that writes a lot of words that mean little to nothing.

That's the fighting spritit. You just made W2B cream her jeans. You're not paying attention: I do some work for a Canadian company that has been in business for a few years now. They're likely your top competitor within your country and handle a much, much larger volume of orders than you. I have a pretty good idea what is fair. How is it that I'm making idiotic decisions if I'm making a lot more as a writer by avoiding your so-called company?


Here: the-efa.org/res/rates.php

I'm a member and I get plenty of work through their job board. The rates are real. Academic ghostwriting is somewhat easier and the market is a bit more swamped with hacks like those you employ. You jerks drive down the price and put out crap writing. Most of my clients are coming to me after some hack making $10 per page has screwed up their paper. I'm not getting $65 per academic page and never said that. I'm getting no less than $30 per 275 words on my own as a freelancer and no less than $25 through a company. And I'm certainly not fixing your mistakes for any less.

By the way, to all of you nut jobs here in this forum, the industry standard "is a firm 250 words" per manuscript page. I realize that this doesn't work out exactly in a lot of cases.

Bottom line: You are either ripping off your writers, providing crap service, or a combination of both. Your business model is exactly the same as that by Walmart. So much for your AMA.

You should hire W2B as a greeter.

Taking several core classes in your major does not make you an expert in anything. You just might be qualified enough to manage a burger joint or inspect bridges, but only after a good deal of training in both cases. Or you might just be pretty enough and have the intestinal fortitude to smile while be buggered so as to get an internship in your so-called expertise.

Now you're driving off topic. There is absolutely no way that you can get a high-quality undergrad paper for what you're paying. I know exactly what these scammers are charging in the countries you have listed and it is similar to what you charge. I've even purchased papers from these yahoos. The Mod at essayscam supports these companies by allowing them to advertise here and removing evidence of their bad work, so you're in good company.

You wrote, "Who on earth would pay $11/double spaced page for an undergrad essay from the 'dark continent." Ummm, most of the pinheads who pass through here. This forum is filled with one-liner fragments from P. T. Barnum's children; these are the primary sources of income for W2B, Ed75, Major, and the others who fish the bottom of the river. Again, top writers at other companies are making way more than double of what you have stated, so you're hardly in competition with the folks here.

Sure, maybe you're servicing the low-rent frat boys who just want to pass their lit class so as to make it to another year of Rohipnol and easy sx, but I sincerely doubt that you could produce for the discerning student.

Undergrads do not have areas of expertise. They know a little about something and a lot about nothing.

You're still not getting it that you are paying almost nothing to your writers. This directly means that you cannot be offering a quality service. If you're top writer is making $1000 per month in the height of the season, then I shudder to think what your bottom-barrel writers are doing. They're probably making just enough to buy some weed and video games while wearing out their knobs in mom's basement.

I just have a feeling that you are not legit and you're not making all that much money. Why? First, the numbers you are quoting are pretty friggin close to what the ESLers over on the dark continent are making. Second, your writers would be financially better off washing dishes in Canada.

Wow, again. You've got some racket going there. Exchange rate has nothing to do with it. I actually do work for a Canadian company that will remain nameless, so I'm calling BS. They offer 73% and the price per page is double or more than what you are charging. Even this price is very low compared to standard ghostwriting at 26 to 50 cents USD per word. I do realize that academic ghostwriting commands a lower price than what I can get for ghost writing something that is to be published, but come on man. You must have clients with low expectations or you're pulling our legs (W2B has four and a very nice wool coat)?

Not true. There are plenty of ways to verify a member's identity. One PM is all it takes.

Wow. That's not a lot of pay. So $26 per page at ~35% of the cut is only about $9.00 USD. That's way, way far below the standard rates for non-ESL ghostwriting. I couldn't live on that and would be better off working part-time at Walmart. It's hard to believe that you are holding onto quality writers for that kind of money.

What kind of clients do you cater? What are the qualifications of your writers?

lmfao

So I wrote a response and the jerk Mod completely deleted it. I didn't even get the benefit of being moved to an off topic thread.

Anyway, aplus, your writing speaks for itself. There's some weird redundancy in way you write and the use of 'ensure' and defense thereof was definitely a bit off.

There's no proof for who you say you are. For all I know, you could be W2B's incestuous-gay lover. Or you could be the scarecrow's, er, I mean, Ed75's long lost brain.

So how do you set your prices? How do you provide specialized customer service? Say a customer wants to chat with their writer. Some projects do need special attention and the middlemen (companies) just get in the way.

How do you hire writers? Do you rely on the never-ending pool of over-educated knowledge workers so that you can maintain low pay? What percentage of the fee are they getting?

Way to drive a thread off-topic, W2B. I came here for the AMA with aplus and all you can think to do is engage me with petty arguments, very base comments, and unsubstantiated claims. This isn't about you. Stay on topic!

That's definitely not true. And you certainly are a troll. In fact, you define what it means to be a troll with the exception of lacking humor.

Howdy aplus. I see that that the banal and obtuse EssayScam team has introduced themselves with the welcoming gauntlet.

I've got a few questions: How can you frequent this forum and expect anything less than to be called names and have every letter and punctuation mark criticized by self-proclaimed vigilantes? Your writing style is a bit suspect as correctly, yet barbarically, pointed out by the resident trolls, so I'm wondering about your ESL status and that of your writers?

Also, most of the regular-members here know a lot about the business (except for W2B). The large majority of the other members are a good mix of ESL scammers and mildly retarded students who would not recognize good customer service unless it involved slapping them upside the head. The 'good customers' aren't going ask you a question or post here and will likely move onto a company or writer after being turned off by W2B and Dolt75.

Hey, some of that $300 was from picking up clients that you screwed over.