Do you consider these countries proficient sources of ESL writers? definitely Not. Now, can these be considered out of the topic? Definitely yes.
Yes, I do consider India a proficient source of ESL writers. In fact, Indians are highly proficient in their use of the English language, besides many other languages, of course. The accents may differ.
And if Writing companies are hiring writers from india and are satisfied with their work, i see no reason why They should be left out of the discussion.
Of course unless you want to focus only on fillopino writers. Which company pays $30 and $60 PPP to their writers. I dont think they are so honest and straightforward that they'll pay their writers well enough. The best I've heard is "Upto $18" PP on most writing websites.
Were you able to experience those statements of yours in China and India
Regarding your second quote above, i am living in India and have experienced numerous problems due to corruption. I speak from personal experience.
Anyway, if you want to disclude India from this discussion regarding ESL profiency, then i guess I wont have much to say.
Good bye and good luck to you.
I see such errors throughout most of the posts in this thread
The errors which you notice and speak of are visible and comprehensible to me too.
And English is not my mothertongue. It is my second language.
Thats precisely the point I am trying to make.
Profiency (or lack of it) cannot and should not be generalized according to the country an individual belongs to. Because, profiency in any language, whether English, Hindi, Urdu, Chinese etc. can be acquired by way of practice.
And this is a trait (practice, to achieve perfection) which one can find in any individual, the World over.
The United States of America, india, Phillipines, China.............. just about any where..............