WRT i used to be a writer for Academic answers quite some time ago and was also a victim of their 300% fine system. They refused to reconsider despite the fact that I did the extra work requested by the customer.

I quit immediately and do not regret my decision one iota as they used to constantly bombard you with emails as well as keep pestering to get you to become a staff writer so that they can force you to do all the crap that no one else wants to do.

Have you always been this objectionable or is it a recently acquired attribute. I do not have to explain to ANYONE why i chose to post on ANY forum nor am I going to. We all know why you post on here as we have seen on MANY occasions how you use this as a platform to boost your writing work.

I care little whether you believe my qualifications or not as I do not have to prove anything to you and will not be engaging in further debate with you on this matter. You can claim as many hollow victories as you like based on the fact that I refuse to continue this argument with you. Let it be noted that never once have I insulted or debased you in anyway, unlike your personal attacks on me. Carry on justifying the way you encourage and applaud students for cheating it speaks volumes about your character as does the way in which you resort to insulting other posters who express opinions contrary to yours.

To the best of my knowledge freedom of speech has not yet been abolished!! therefore I CAN and DO go on MANY discussion forums. My interest in this forum stems from the fact that a) I used to be a writer, b) I do not condone plagairism in any form, c) I still assist students by way of proof reading their work and making suggestions on how it might be improved and also am actively involved in online tutoring of students who are having difficulty writing their own essay. I assist such students by suggesting how the essay should be set out, the content and method to answer the question posed. By doing this the student produces their own work under guidance.

Anyway both of us have managed to take this off the original topic.

In response to the question of whether a teacher will find out if turnitin has been used, it is my understanding, based on my own daughters recent attendance at university, that each student is allowed to use what is called the play pen area of turnitin for a certain amount of times during their course. Work submitted in this area is checked for plagairism but is not stored. Once the work is to the students satisfaction the entire piece is then submitted to the full version of turnitin, where the work is then stored and a report sent to the university detailing the percentage of plagairised work within the piece. If the work has only be submitted to the playpen area then the teacher will not know that this has been done, as this is the very purpose of that area, so that a student can check their work for plagairism content before submittng the finished piece for marking.

I am not preoccupied as you put it... it would, however, not be the right forum to post any other unethical behaviour I am against on a site DEDICATED to issues related to essay writing service... now whose not following the plot. Why on earth would i comment on issues concerning anything but essay writing services on a site that is specifically for that purpose.

At the end of the day YOU do not believe that cheating in such a way reflects on that persons ability to perform their role in the future. I however feel differently. That does not make you right and me wrong or vice versa, It is merely a matter of pure opinion. At leaset we both agree it us unthical, however, you still are actively involved in allowing this to continue, whilst I followed my morality and walked away from such employment. Each to their own I guess!!

No matter what anyone says YOU have already decided that plagairism is ok, well here's hoping if you EVER become a published writer someone steals your work and gets the credit for it, then see if you are so happy to consone such a practice.

The whole essay writing business is unthical as it encourages cheating, but at the end of the day the students are only cheating themselves as they are basically buying their degree rather than earning it.

I fully expected you to condone this sort of cheating since you assist others to cheat in this way by writing their work for them.

When I did my bar exams the lecturers made it abundantly clear that we were not to get assistance from anyone else with our written work (even another student) and that anyone doing so would fail the course on the principle that they had breached the professional standards required of a student studying for the bar.

As I have said before I have NO problem with work being used as a guideline, BUT submittng the work without alteration is unethical and should result in the person failing that element of the course as it is plagairism now matter how you try to frill it up.

What about the NUMEROUS law students that avail themselves of these services. They HAVE to write reams once in practice. As for medical professionals, don't doctors have to write medical reports, and social workers have to write reports on the individuals they deal with.

I think you will find that nowadays MANY occupations require a SUBSTANTIAL amount of writing as part of the job description.

Besides, the argument here, is that if they are prepared to CHEAT their way through university then their INTEGRITY is in question. I have NO problem with students using work as a guideline, BUT submitting the work as THEIR OWN, come on, does that seriously not bother you AT ALL.


This was not used as a request for someone to buy OR something but a kind of slang term used in English sometimes. The kind of thing one might say to a mate in a passing conversation, ie 'I am going to get me some...' Yes not grammatically correct, but also not intended to be either. So in actual fact, the manner in which OR used this phrase would be used in conversational English between friends.

Actually no, that was not my point at all. I was not criticising anyone for their language skills etc, I was merely pointing out that ANYONE who CHEATS their way through university by PAYING someone else to do their coursework for them should be questioned on their ability to perform the job they are SUPPOSEDLY qualified to do.

As for whether you believe my claim about the model answers or not I do not care, however, I can assure you that I DID in fact receive an email from AA purportedly recruiting writers to SUPPPOSEDLY write for Birmingham university. As I was just starting work following the completion of my BVC I thought that it would be an excellent opportunity to earn some extra money to repay my loans. When it became obvious that these essays were in fact for some law student to idle to write their own paper I quit.

The claim about being EXCELLENT was not to demonstrate that I supposedly still write, but that when I DID write my work was excellent. I have not written essays in the last 3 years, nor would I consider doing so in the future. I prefer to tutor students, so that they can write their own excellent pieces of work, and have assisted by proofreading and making editorial comments and suggestions in which the work might be improved. By doing this the student is actually made to work to achieve their own grade and not simply submit someone else's work as their own.

That I used to write until I realised how my work was being used. If you care to read my earlier posts you would already know this as I explained how I was sent an email from an essay writing site asking if I would write model answers for universities (which is honestly what I thought I was doing). When I discovered this was untrue I stopped writing.

Employers presume university students are trained in the areas they studied in and earned their qualifications honestly. Would you be happy having a doctor operate on you who jad cheated their way through med school?

Thanks - I haven't had much free time lately, hence the absence.


So you would encourage students to plagairise then I guess. Coming from someone who professes to be a published writer I find that remarkable. Are you really suggesting that you would have no problem with someone using your work as their own- despite any effort you have put into doing the research for? If so, you are not a serious writer, as a serious writer would pride themselves in having accomplished producing a quality piece of research, and would abhor the idea of someone coming along and using their work, professing to have done the research themselves.

The whole idea behind having to do the essays is to demonstrate to the university that the student possesses the necessary research skills required for the chosen profession they intend to pursue. Using someone else's without giving that researcher the credit for the work done shows a lack of integrity and honesty, which should reflect on the employability of that individual in the future.

Turnitin is only a bad thing if the writer or the student are unable to submit plagairism free coursework. Any GOOD writer or student will not be affected by this program as the work WILL show up as NON PLAGAIRISED.


Therein lies your problem. As a writer EACH piece is supposed to be an original and NOT taken from ANY previous work, either YOUR own or SOMEONE else's. If you cannot provide an original piece of work then you should not be working as a freelance writer.

Keep telling yourself you don't NEED to steal if it appeases your conscience lol I think everyone here has come to realise that YOU intended to take on this particular assignment AND ONLY make a FEW minor changes in order to earn a quick buck. Your ANNOYANCE is based on the fact that by me publishing this here YOU were UNABLE to do this hence the reason for spouting how you feel about what I have done lol

Well guess what? I truly DO NOT care what you think of me ... mission accomplished ... the article is now published on SO MANY websites that NO ONE would be able to use it without making many changes and paraphrasing to hell and back... I am one happy bunny lol

And its a tough world for someone like you with no integrity and no writing skills - hence having to resort to working for peanuts for AR and stealing other people's work lol

Just wish my friend would wake up and smell the roses and realise she is selling herself short sigh!

I agree with you WB. At the end of the day the work belongs to my friend since she received no remuneration for the work, therefore, at her suggestion the essay was posted on here to prevent anyone from 'stealing' her work and using it as their own or making a few 'minor' alterations so that they could earn a quick buck.

oh and Rusty --- I am delighted that a plagairising, paraphrasing crook finds me annoying. Your posts are like your academic work --- totally unoriginal! lol

Well wouldn't it be ironic if you don't manage to paraphrase as well as you intend and end up being done for plagairism, now that would make me really happy lol


No that doesn't sound wrong to me at all. As far as I am concerned anyone that wants to paraphrase my friends work is welcome to do so, at least they have to put SOME effort into changing it and not submitting it in its entirety. At the end of the day I guess it is a complement to her that the work is SO GOOD someone would want to use it lol.

Considering that originally Rusty tried to suggest that the work was substandard it is amazing that he now would like to use it in his own negligence essay lol. I guess OR's comments made him see how stupid his comments were on the quality/ plagairism issue lol


Not that you had much of a reputation in the first place lol, but IF i was a student STUPID enough to use the services of AR I would specifically demand that they found out WHO posts on here under the name of Rusty and instruct them NOT to let him write for me as I would want an originally written quality piece of work and not some paraphrased/ plagairised piece of crap.

I wanted to maximise the potential to ruin another writers day since i do not see why someone should get to use my friends work to earn a quick buck.

Sorry you don't agree but maybe that's why i'm an exwriter and your still selling your soul to the devil!!

except that the client has had the paper redone already as the deadline was ages ago.

On a plus note Rusty has just admitted to everyone on here that he has no problems pinching other peoples work. Maybe that should serve as a warning to make sure you don't get rusty doing your paper from AR.

It also shows that RUSTY is so RUSTY at writing legal papers that he HAS to resort to paraphrasing other people's work in order to produce a paper anywhere near an acceptable standard.

Keep going Rusty your reputation is disppearing down the pan and all because i stopped you from pinching my friends work and you could not hack that you were unable to use the essay in its entirety with only a few minor changes for a quick buck lol.

EW at the end of the day anyone on this thread could paraphrase in the same manner as Rusty is intending to do, let's face it many writers for companies such as AR and others do exactly that. You only have to read the numerous complaints on sites such as this to see dissatisfied customers who have received paraphrased work or plagairised work. If the university the work is submitted to is more robust the person using the above is likely to come unstuck if asked to give page numbers from the ref books used lol as only my friend knows the pages the quotes etc were extracted from lol

good luck trying lol I submitted it to turnitin as a precaution against someone doing just that lol using my daughters uni account, so if turnitin is any good looks like someone will get caught for plaigairism lol

And used all my friends work (for which she did not get paid) to earn a quick buck. Now there's integrity for you.

Really pleased i screwed you over and getting more pleased with each post you make expressing your disgust at not being able to use my friends work.

Keep going I am enjoying the fact that neither you NOR anyone else got a free piece of work from my friend. (oh and by the way so is she!!)

By incorporating in the UK or US those availing themselves of their services assume the company to be bona fide because it is incorporated within these countries.

This is particularly important with essay writing companies, as they are trying to persuade the customer that because they are incorporated in that country ALL or the VAST MAJORITY of their writers must also originate from that country.

Essay writing companies do not fear consumer protection laws because very few students are likely to avail themselves of protection under these laws for fear of being exposed.

Also, a point made by another poster in a different thread, the companies can hide behind the disclaimer that the work should only be used for research purposes.

Anyone who submits a paper written by someone else as their own, really has no protection, as the intention of the essay was supposedly for research purposes.

This is why there have never been any claims brought against these companies.

Yes making false claims can be a cause for actions as well as failing to meet contractual requirements. One problem with the essay industry is in finding customers to come forward, as many are afraid that their university will discover that they have been submitting work as their own, and will be expelled from their university.

There is also the problem in relation to the quality of the work given to the customer. It is impossible to guarantee that ANY work submitted will attain a specific grade. I once wrote a paper when I was at university myself for which I only scored a 2:2. I queried this with the lecturer who told me that in actual fact the work should have been a 2:1 but that she had down marked the piece ot make me work harder in the exam. I took this up with the head of the faculty who merely said that this was a quirk of this particular lecturer and not to worry as I would be able to make up the score in the exam. When you get people like this there is no way ANYONE can guarantee that a piece of work will achieve a certain grade.

Anonym

If you would like to know how to pursue this legally I will PM you my mobile number of email address and will advise you.

There is no point you sending me a PM cos the email I signed up with does not exist nor has it ever existed.

I use mine to hide my bald patch lol

i reckon it must be lights out at the asylum ...that's why he's had to go lol

I'm proud of mine too, however am not allowed to post picture ID because of being a member of the bar council... that is why we all wear silly wigs to make us anonymous lol

there are many out there who are deluded and think that writing a paper on law makes them a lawyer.

I wrote a paper on domestic violence .... does that make me a wife beater lol

Probably lol oh well I guess I'll look elsewhere

I know its cruel to mock the afflicted but chacha is such an easy target lol

Even my dog is laughing at his ridiculous posts lol

Can I have fried psychology and peas please lol with lashings of criminology on the side lol

Legal stamp duty lol stamp duty is only on property when you buy a house lol what a joke wish I had seen that earlier lol

You indicated that you had passed law in UK professional exams... the amount of law covered by the ACCA can be written on a postage stamp. Contract Act lol what the heck is that supposed to be lol do you mean

Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 (c. 31) or
Local Government (Contracts) Act 1997 (c. 65)

Think you will find this is the full title lol

The amount of law contained in accountancy exams is minimal and does not go into the law in any depth. If you have touched on contract law how come you did not know that a contract does not have to be written to be valid, AND that a written contract does not have to be signed by both parties, nor is there any requirement for it to be on neat A4 paper lol.

You OBVIOUSLY know as little about UK law as you do about writing in English lol

These are NOT law exams ACCA is for accountants .. I know this because at one time I was going to do the same course before I decided on law. I completed the AAT course before deciding that accountancy was not for me as it was way too dreary.

the ICAEW is the institute of chartered accountants in england and wales which obviously is NOT a law exam

and cima is the chartered institute of management accountants ...yet again NOT a law exam

Law exam include either LLB degree or BA degree in law and another subject and the either LPC to become a lawyer BVC to become a barrister or FILEX to become a legal executive.

Nearly all subjects marginally touch on law, but you cannot claim to have a qualification in law UNLESS you have passed one of the above.

That explains your IGNORANCE of contract law lol.

I am a member of the Bar council for england and wales as well as a member of the honourable society of lincoln's inns.

And which UK professional exam might that be Chacha..be careful now because I can find out if your lying lol

ooh a typing error oh no! don't send the executioner lol Shakespeare would be turning in his grave

Oh an BTW WHEN did i ever give you English lessons apart from on ESSAYBRUNCH which you keep stating is not yours... was that a fraudulent slip that you have now admitted it IS your site lol Because I have certainly NEVER corrected any of your errors on THIS forum, it would take FAR too long to do that lol

I see you haven't challenged my qualification chacha lol Good job since I could run rings round you on law as you will have seen from my earlier post were i backed up my informatio wih case law.

Oh and BTW in english law statute determines the law of the land, however, decisions given in the higher courts act as precedent for future decided cases, ergo the law CAN and IS changed through decisions made in the courts.

As a qualified barrister I can categorically confirm that a contract can be valid even if its written on a postage stamp.

A person can also entire into a verbal contract ...which is just as binding as a written contract... and the courts will order specific performance for any breach of that contract.

J.T. Developments Ltd. v Quinn (1991)

Chacha were on earth did you study business law lol You haven't got the slightest clue about UK law so stop trying lol

I could run rings round you

Hey chacha how do you keep an idiot in suspense lol?

I'll tell you later lol

try this site hear uttering the words of Shakespeare
shakespeare-quotes/lady-doth-protest-too-much-methinks

Now that should keep him bemused for hours trying to work out what the words mean lol

Considering I dont post ANY evidence against ANY company except essaybrunch (btw wheres my sandwich) and then that EVIDENCE was the grammatical errors and spelling mistakes which you quickly corrected, I dont think I fit into your category as a DEFENDER of ANY particular site lol ESPECIALLY since in have no AFFILIATION with any site.

Would you like me to define affiliation (sorry for using such a big word) - passes a dictionary to chacha - it starts with A so you wont have to flick through that many pages to find it lol

WB do you think he's gone to make me a sandwich lol

seems to have gone for quite some time. maybe i should go and make my own lol

Oh I always feel worthwhile lol my whole existence is about feeling worthwhile lol probably why I don't write for sites like AR myself lol

Then again .... I don't need to. Maybe my friend should apply to OR for a job since he was impressed with the work above lol I am sure OR would not fine his writers in this way, and would have backed my friend up when the customer demanded the extra work for no extra pay.

Hey there's hope for you yet then superbrunch lol send me your CV and I'll put in a good word for you.

As you fit into both categories ie stupids and idiots you will be invaluable as you can multi task lol

I have no masters lol cos I work for no one. My students are mostly law school students whom I assist with online lectures as well as proofreading and editing and provision of model answers. I do not work for a company, but know people who do, but I have no need to as I work full time as a barrister, so have more than enough to keep me occupied. Mocking you is just a hobby lol but releases my pent up humour which of course I am not allowed to express in court lol

Thank you for giving me the opportunity to mock you... but then you are such an easy target with all the rubbish you keep spouting. Anyway forget the bacon buttie..how about a scambled egg on toast instead lol

my friend got more than 15 reward points but still no bonus.

as for the returning customer thing... my friend has had SEVERAL such orders and never once had any bonus or price per page increase, in fact, on one occasion, the returning customer had been told by admin that because they were a returning customer they could have the paper written for $5 per page when previously they had paid $9 per page. My friend refused the order, especially as it was a 40 page disertation piece, and the customer complained. Admin begged my friend to write the piece which she eventually did when the price per page was increased to $11 per page.