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Unbeliever_Paradox   
Sep 16, 2007

Hi guys. I'm back and I need a bit of help this time. It has been about a week now since one of my clients has ceased all communications with me. The problem is, he still owes me money. I am considering posting all the articles on my web page so that they would be useless to that client (Web articles should be original. Webmasters check with copyscape). Would this be the smart thing to do or should I wait some more?
Unbeliever_Paradox   
Sep 09, 2007

Argghh.. Will you quit being on the defensive? I was correcting her statement, if you haven't noticed. I even apologized for her grammar. The second question was an honest one. If some company refused to hire me, could I sue their asses?

I am no longer interested in debating. i just think this thread can help me just like everyone else.

I didn't even really call you a racist. I was just having fun since I found all the errors you counted... T_T
Unbeliever_Paradox   
Sep 09, 2007

I'm a "snob" now? Why? If proving my points and uncovering fraud makes me a "snob," then bring me some tea and crumpets, dammit!

ahahaha...
Unbeliever_Paradox   
Sep 09, 2007

I think that was the statement. I like to consider myself as the average ESL writer, although I do not work for EW. Now that I read it with a cool head, however, I realize that I may have been mistaken and I do apologize.

Errr, can anyone help me get published so I can get out if this gig? That's all I am waiting for. No serious writer likes to ghostwrite, you know.

I just quit working for someone who asked me to reword a whole e-book( I will not bloody plagiarize!!!). I'm beginning to become an "anti-filipino" filipino, too.
Unbeliever_Paradox   
Sep 09, 2007

Anyway, I would like to ask what's "wrong with being an ESL writer?" It just seems to me that you put them down all the time. This emerging pattern is beginning to make me think that you are on the fast track to becoming racist.

Sorry about this guys. I just hope you don't judge all of us ESL writers based on her mistakes.

And what if one took a proficiency test and passed with excellent marks? Would refusal to hire them be grounds for a lawsuit?
Unbeliever_Paradox   
Sep 09, 2007

Okay, I realize that WritersBeware is not the bad guy here. However, he shouldn't have generalized all ESL writers as frauds. I am a Filipino Web Content Writer. Here's how the system works:

1) I see an advertisement for someone hiring writers. The potential wages are far above what even your average government employee here makes. So naturally, I apply.

2) I go through rigorous screening procedures wherein I have to prove that I can:

a) Write with grammatically perfect English
b) Write creatively while being constrained to using some keywords repeatedly
c) Write quickly with a deadline in mind

3) My articles have to be approved by the client or I don't get paid. If too many clients return their articles I get fired for jeopardizing the business.

These clients are fully aware that their business partners are non-Americans. There's no fraud in any form. Payments are sent to the office's bank account (Philippine-based) and then diverted to me, with the agent taking a little off the top, of course.

If the client is happy, he or she will order more articles.

Filipino is my national language. I also speak two different dialects. However, I am pretty competent in using the English Language. I admit that I may be no Yeats, but I can hold my own.

All I am asking is that you try to understand that the writers are not at fault here. I was offered a great opportunity and I took it. Just like any of you would had you been given the chance to work for 2-3 hours a day and still earn more in a week than what your parents make in a month.

Some of us are also pissed off at people who commit fraud. Just this past week, I was commissioned by a client to write 6 thousand pesos worth of articles (about 120$). I really needed that since I was counting on it to pay my rent. He ran out on me.

In the end, it's not about whether you are a native english speaker or not -it's about whether your work stands the test of time. I have been working in this business for a year now, with my clients fully aware of my nationality. That should say something about my work quality.

I just hope this clears things up a bit.

Oh yeah, and someone posted this thread on the Filipino Penster Community and that's how I found it. If you think that Non-native speakers are no-good at writing with this language, then maybe you should check out our site. It has a lot of filipino content but there are also some English submissions.

Here's something for you to chew on:
penster.fyi.ph/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1863

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