bypassing the 'writing agencies', going direct: writer - customer

Just a thought, wouldn't it be handy to have a section on the forum where freelance writers and people looking for writing services can meet?

Cutting out the middle man, which has it risks, but then the benefits of having the 'middle man' aren't always present either when we look at the number of scams..

This is just what I would like to do. I am looking for help with my masters Thesis for my MBA.

I am stuck at the very beginning, don't get any help at the university/advisors, and am afraid to pick a writing service website for help.

I am looking for help, meaning I want to do stuff myself but need a hand in defining the topic, and help along the way.

The topic would be something concerning wireless internet usage, internet usage, something telecommunication and business oriented for which I can find primary data (survey) in the field. Preferably I would like to survey students as a target group since i have good access to them for the survey (would like to get everything over with in a relative short timespan, e.g. 1-2 months max).

It doesn't have to be a groundbreaking topic, the emphasis is on do-able and decent, and off course plagiarism free.
I have been going in circles for 3 months now, started on a zillion topics, and am still at point zero.

So, I am looking for sincere freelance writers with a good track record and qualifications that really want to help out. Like I said, I need help getting started/writing my thesis (which would be the job of my advisor but unfortunately the situation is different), not the full paper written without my involvement.

Please email me (via my profile) for more info or post a reply here on the forum.

Thanks a lot!

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Hi,

I would like to hire a freelance writer for help with my paper.
I am doing my MBA thesis, and need help.
My advisors are not available, and I am stuck at the very beginning. My paper is due in one month.

I prefer to go direct via a freelance writer instead of passing by an agency.
The writer has the benefit that he will get paid, and without a cut for the agency.
My benefit would be not to have to pass by some fraudulent writing agency and be in contact directly with the writer.

I am looking for someone who is experienced and serious.

if interested please contact me: @yahoo

thank you, Ron

Ron

Afraid this is not a subject with which I am familiar otherwise I would have offered you some assistance. I do online and over the phone tuition for a number of students but my speciality was in law and criminology though I did once assist someone in a business research paper. Problem with that was that I spent ages researching the topic myself before I could help her.

If you have lecture notes and a draft of the work I could have a look to see whether I could assist but cannot promise anything. Would take a look for nothing then if I think I can help we could discuss a fee.

reply back through here if you would like me to take a look and then I will email you direct.

Ron, whatever you do, please do not go to Peter Richardson of Project 1stclass or 1stclass projects. I can give you many horror stories about this person.

Why I work with clients directly

I have been a writer with different companies for the past four years. However, it has been an uphill task working for companies that pay peanuts after charging clients exorbitant prices. I have decided to work directly with clients for a reasonable fee. As a writer, I have over the past four years been able to write over 1000 academic papers in different fields such as finance, economics, sociology, trade, statistics, and ethics among others. However, my areas of specialization are accounting, economics, finance, and linear programming. I have gained knowledge about different types of academic papers including but not limited to annotated bibliographies, admission papers, case studies, dissertations, essays, math assignments, reports, speech, thesis, term papers, personal statements, movie reviews, and PowerPoint presentations, and I have managed to write papers on each.

There are actually 2 places where you can contact independent writers directly on this forum. The first, is through EssayChat and the other, is through Essay Directory. Both methods allow for just what you want, direct contact with the writers without the meddlesome middleman pretending to "facilitate" the deal when it is not necessary for him to do so. You should not have any problem dealing directly with the writers here since they are long upstanding members of the independent writing community whose experiences in writing fields are varied and up to date. Now, since I am not a freelance writer, I am not saying these things to get clients. I am saying this to help move clients towards the reputable services of the independent writers here. I can assure you, they don't get any more qualified than the guys here. Just shoot them a quick contact email and the ball will start rolling to your great benefit. Your experience will be so good, you will never hire a writing company again.

Why would you leave out the Recommended Services and featured writers here?

Because he's not on it :)

To make sure we're on the same page - as far as I know, since the 'Featured / Recommended Writers / Recommended Services' have been implemented (a couple of years ago?) I haven't seen a single complain regarding the recommended writers or services. So something must be working well and if a first-time student is reading this, it may be their best option, unless they prefer to spend hours doing their own research ;)

Recommended Freelance Writers - https://essayscam.org/freelance-writers/
Recommended Writing Services - https://essayscam.org/forum/rs/

@LouisHooper
I don't think anybody needs to be persuaded that working for yourself beats working for a company that keeps a substantial percentage of clients' payments for projects. The most difficult aspect of working for yourself is building up a sufficiently large clientele to do it, and that takes at least several years to do.

If we go by this logic, freelance writers who work for themselves should never charge more than what they would charge if they wrote for a company. Why would they want to charge them substantially more; only because they run their own website/business?

Negative. The going market rate that clients pay for our work is set by the objective value of the product to customers; it's not set by the percentage of the price to customers that essay companies choose to pay out to their writers. More generally, I wish you didn't (still) have to instigate an argument pitting legit freelancers against legit essay companies in almost every conversation, even where nobody has said anything critical of your essay company or of any essay company.

I wasn't at all suggesting that there's anything "wrong" with essay companies keeping their percentage of incoming payments. Their writers know in advance exactly what their payout will be for their projects and that the company is in business to generate a profit by selling their writers' work for more than they pay out to their writers for that work. That's obvious; but it should be equally obvious that writers always prefer working for their own clients directly anytime they manage to attract direct customers, simply because they don't have to share any of their income with anybody providing middleman functions. That isn't intended as any kind of criticism of essay companies or of their business model; and that's all I meant by the phrase "working for yourself beats working for a company," which is always true from the writer's perspective.

Customers who choose to work directly with freelance writers fully understand that they're going to pay whatever the furnished product is worth (objectively) and that established legit freelance writers are (obviously) going to charge approximately the same price as established legit essay companies charge their customers for the same essay. Customers also understand that writers would have no incentive to even bother working for themselves in the first place and to bother handing all the customer-service functions of working directly with clients (much less spending money on their own websites and advertising) if they're only going to earn the same for any given essay as they'd have earned taking that same project from a company that already handles customer service and all the other overhead expenses of generating and administrating business.

Even that simple analysis doesn't take into account the difference in quality between the work provided by specific freelance writers who have been acknowledged as being among the best of the best company writers and the work provided by whatever writer (usually, out of hundreds of them) chooses to take any order made available to all writers on essay-company assignment boards. As you know full well, there is a tremendous difference in quality between the best and most experienced writers at (even the best) essay companies and the worst and least experienced writers at those same companies.

Sure, essay-company customers can often request specific writers, but if we choose not to take their orders, that's not very helpful. I can tell you that even when I was totally dependent on essay-company orders, I rejected as many requests for my services as I accepted, simply because those orders just weren't worth (to me) what the companies were paying out on them. Typically, this happened when a customer placed a rush order for which I received $20/pg and then followed up by requesting me for another order that only paid out $10/pg because of a longer deadline. As a freelance writer, I rarely decline any project that I'm capable of completing at a high level unless I'm hopelessly overbooked. Frankly, I'm also free to set prices for projects based partly on how much I do or don't need those particular projects at that particular time, depending on how busy I am (or how busy I want to be). Anytime prospective clients question my price, I encourage them to experiment with someone cheaper, and I tell them that they're always perfectly welcome to try me again in the future if they should decide that they're not happy with work they find at a cheaper price. However, even prospective clients who do want to try their luck finding cheaper work first seem to understand that whenever they hire a highly-experienced freelance writer, they're probably not going to be paying any less than they'd be paying a company, especially for the same essay written by that same writer.

Yes. I agree with you.
Directly essay writers may be available at this forum cutting the middle man out.

You always claim a customer would be better off choosing working with a freelance writer and companies do nothing but increase the price. But when you are in a position of a company (running your own business), you charge your customers substantially more (probably even more than the company charges their customers). When you work for a company, you think like a socialist; when you work for yourself, you suddenly change your perspective and think like a capitalist. You cannot be a socialist and a capitalist at the same time (maybe in NY it's possible though).

When you run your own business AND charge about the same or more that you'd charge as a big company writer (or the company itself), the reality is that it is not a good deal for a customer who'd rather go to an all-inclusive hotel (a real writing service with 24-7 customer service, live chat, phone support, usable website, available multiple writers in case of emergencies) than to stay in a small do-it-yourself motel.

So please stop pretending you are just a "freelance writer" - you run your own service and charge as much as all-inclusive companies do without offering nearly the same experience.

Negative, again:


I've never claimed, even once, that "companies do nothing but increase the price." I've said that working freelance is better for writers, because there's no middleman involved. I've also argued that once they identify a good honest writer, customers are definitely better off working with that writer than working with an essay company. However, I believe I've never had to make that argument here at all except as a response to threads and posts from undisclosed principals and employees of essay companies who argue the contrary position, first, in their efforts to steer all prospective customers away from freelancers and toward essay companies. My related comments outside of that context usually refer in a very unbiased way to "legit companies and legit freelance writers."


As any of my customers can attest, I respond to their emails 24/7 and almost instantaneously unless I'm sleeping. The reality of customer service (whether by "live chat" or "phone support" or "usable" websites), is that at essay companies, customer support is just another layer in between customers and their writers. If the writer is sleeping or otherwise unavailable, the only "support" the company provides is responding to assure the customer that the message has been relayed to the writer and that the writer will respond ASAP. Company reps know no more than their customers about project status or about any issues with their projects until the writer reads emails and responds. Some of their writers work full time from their homes as I do and respond very promptly; but others only do this part time and might be as unavailable to the company as they are to the customer for days, until they decide to check their emails and respond. In fact, the main function of essay-company customer service reps is to prevent customers and writers from communicating directly. The reality is that essay companies expressly prohibit any direct contact between writers and customers and they make sure that their messaging systems flag any contact information (even warning writers that attempting to do share it with customers will result in termination), precisely because they understand that many of their own customers would prefer to bypass the company and work with writers directly. If that weren't the case, essay companies could simply allow writers and customers to email one another directly.


For years, I operated just fine using only my email address and without any website whatsoever. The only reason that I had to create a website in 2009 was that you and other undisclosed essay-company principals and employees repeatedly promoted the notion that no writer without a websites should be trusted. At that time, I suggested to the most vocal of you that she knew exactly who some of us freelance writers posting here were, and that she should have at least phrased her warnings about doing business with freelance writers more narrowly to avoid hitting us with shrapnel by suggesting that no writer operating without a website should ever be trusted. I believe that in response, that particular undisclosed company "affiliated" poster said it wasn't her "responsibility" to do that and that's when (and why) I created a website.

That's a nice little tag-team propaganda campaign on behalf of essay companies: one of you warns customers never to do business with any writer who doesn't have a website, and when a writer who wrote thousands of essays for her company finally creates a website out of the necessity that she created with those warnings, an undisclosed employee of another essay company accuses that same writer of "pretending" to be a freelance writer because he created that website. I'm not "pretending" to be anything; I'm a freelance writer who had no choice but to create a website in response to the attempts by essay-company principals and employees here to steer all clients their way by deliberately frightening prospective clients away from all freelance writers, even from freelance writers they know full well have provided their own companies with thousands of high-quality projects for many years before going solo.

Why would you charge 2-3 times more when you run your own business vs. when you write for a company? From a socialist point of view, it's not fair to charge students more for the same product.

I charge my customers approximately the same as the essay companies for which I did the most work charges them, not "2-3 times more."

Again, what essay companies paid me and what I charge customers privately for my work have nothing whatsoever to do with one another or with the customer. Either way, the customer receives an essay written by me for the same price. The main difference is simply that I've eliminated the middleman and don't have to share the proceeds of my hard work with any company. As I've explained previously, that also allows me to accept many projects with longer deadlines that I'd have never even considered taking from the essay company because they just weren't worth my time for the payout offered by the companies, even when the customers specifically "requested" me as their writer.

There's nothing wrong with that arrangement for writers who must rely on companies for work, but most experienced writers who write for companies aspire to build their own clientele for that most obvious of reasons, and they don't charge their private customers only what their previous essay companies paid them, because they're not insane.

If a company paid you, let's say, $15 per page and now you charge the same students $30 per page, I don't see how you eliminated a middle man. You removed the features, convenience, and protections offered by a company and started to charge more for less. You (technically) removed one middle man (the company), but replaced it with another (less capable and convenient) one.

How is his, or my or any other writer's service less convenient? Those of us that do this full time have protections in place to safeguard our clients, and ourselves - such as crisis rescheduling and forwarding. Bar phone support 24/7, there is no marked difference.

1. Live chat support.
2. Phone support.
3. If something goes wrong, customer relies on you only (or your wife/aunt/uncle/grandpa at best).
4. You screw up the paper? (not necessarily because of your own fault) Customer relies on you only, no other options, time wasted.

If an order is small it's possible to manage a crisis. What about a dissertation, PhD thesis, or any other long-term project? A single point of failure (you, a single writer) and months or work can be lost (I don't know many writers who would want to continue writing a dissertation not started / researched by them, not to mention trying to keep the same writing style - the cost would be more than starting it from scratch). At best you can refund, but you won't cover the cost of having another writer start it from scratch to meet the deadline (reputable services would).

So in reality, a customer has two choices:

1. Order from Amazon and have all the conveniences and protections they offer. Have a piece of mind that third-parties watch the progress or deadline and act if something goes wrong.

2. Order from an ebay store and deal with an owner by email.

Price - about the same. If given a choice, students would likely choose Amazon, wouldn't they.

That's not really how it goes. If you lived the life you'd know most of us basically live for the work, not the other way around. And if anything gets screwed up, private writers are able to fix it faster, since they are in direct contact with the client - not to mention its much easier to fix your own mistakes. I can't recall any client that had to wait for support or answers from me for more than a couple of hours (save for the random 3am inquiry)

A paying customer / student typically doesn't care a service provider has better things to do than his order. That actually proves my point - a freelancer (not only a freelance writer, but also any other contract worker) who bails out on an order is something quite common and if that happens, the joke and lost time is on the student. So if a student is willing to risk a single point of failure, it's up to them.

PS - I'm not specifically talking about you or FW, but in general terms. A student reading this may think - '..hm, but I found a freelance writer who has a nice website and charges only $10 per page, I'll go with him!' (not knowing 90% of unknown / other freelance writers are scammers from 3rd world countries).

Well, I don't know about others - but I imagine they treat customers in much the same way - but I don't bail out once I accept an order. I did do that two or three times over the span of my career as a writer, but that's such a small percentile it doesn't really factor at all. What I'm trying to say is that anyone who's serious about this work has to have a very high work ethic, and will not skip out on a client as that brings bad press and no referrals.

I thought all of the banner services help to cut out the middleman in the discussion? The writers are contacted directly by the students and the communication takes place between them. EssayChat offers the student the same opportunity to discuss with the writer without having to pass through a go-between. The whole system that the forum has set up for its vetted writers and services bypass the agencies by allowing the potential client to contact the writer directly.

I don't see the need for a separate part of the forum to do that in. Students are free to contact the writers for their dealings through the systems at this forum or, in some instances, through the freelance writer's personal website. So there can be no middleman interfering with the deal. The current set up has worked well so far so I don't think there is a need to add anything or change any of the procedures in place at the moment.

Agreed. In addition, those of us who have written for companies and also for our direct clients are definitely more careful about the work we do for our direct clients because if they're not happy, it's our reputation on the line. That's not to say that most of us didn't also do good work as company writers; but we're just not as concerned about those companies' reputations as about our own. For one example, if I ever found myself having to choose between missing a deadline for a private client or missing a deadline for a company project, it was definitely the private client's project that got finished before the deadline and the company client who got a politely-worded apology about the delay and a new ETA. I believe that's always the case with any writer who has both private and company clients.

Writing agencies have found themselves slowly becoming irrelevant because most writers have learned that, if they actually have the talent, skill, and time to represent themselves to the potential clients, then using social media is the way to promote their business. Social media and this forum (it seems) are the best way to cut out the middleman. It is imperative that the direct client relationship be fostered among independent writers and clients because it actually reduces the amount of misinformation and wastes communication time that could have been better spent perfecting the student's essay. It appears to me that the OP wasn't really looking around the board. Otherwise, he should have seen all of the available methods for direct writer contact.

I am not sure if the publicity that is attached to the advertising sections of this forum still serves its original, intended purpose of removing the middle man from the discussion. As far as I can tell, the participants of those sections are no longer active at this forum. Even @Freelancewriter seems to have taken a sabbatical these days and is nowhere to be found. I guess the students can still try to contact the writers that advertised at those places before to see if they are active and can still be directly hired by some.

It's honestly bad enough that I have to trust some random stranger with all my private financial info just to hire a writer. Like, there's no way I'm meeting them in person to talk details. People are so sketchy now-you never know who's wearing those AI sunglasses and lowkey taking photos of you. I'm not trying to get blackmailed later just for trying to get a paper done.