essaywriters.net fraud

Like writing for foreign sites that you consider fraudulent? Ha! That's like saying that you're fine with ESL writers as long as they don't write for American consumers. :p You're sentiments about ESL writers working for essaywriters.net is well encapsulated in what you think essaywriters should do:

Hmm.. so how many interviews have you conducted with native American writers and how many were you able to hire? ^_^


But they have. Accepting that reality does not mean that you should be forced to hire any of us. I was just stating that competent ESL writers in this industry are here to stay and cruddy propaganda will not make us go away. Writers like myself, humble, dearbats, and several others have been operating in this industry for years now and have taken our share of the market. I really don't think that we're alone in our success, do you?

Right-and they are not engaging in fraud or illegal activity by working for you because you abide by all laws and do not misrepresent any writer's qualifications in order to fool customers into ordering. That is how a business is supposed to operate.


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Right. Neither unqualified, American writers nor unqualified, ESL writers should be hired under any circumstances. The fact, however, is that foreign, ESL writers-even if linguistically qualified-are much more likely to be out-of-touch with American culture and the "heartbeat of America," which can make their creative writing for American consumers very awkward.

Competent ones are not just here to stay but this industry is where they should be. As I said, qualifications, irrespective of nationality ... The REALITY of incompetents in the industry is one which I won't accept.


See ... you automatically identified the QUALIFIED ones. How many (from this forum) did you leave off this list? Do you believe ESL vs Native would even be an issue were all as competent as the ones you listed?


Brits and Americans? Do you have any idea just how far the education system has fallen? And do not get me started on Aussies and their absolute disrespect for the most basic language rules. Finding good ones is difficult but easier than finding Qualified ESL writers. EW, as I said:



EW - you know that this was not what I said at all. I clearly stated my position in favour of ESL writers numerous times (including the post you are referring to). Furthermore, I never lumped all ESL writers together as you imply I did. I clearly differentiated between the qualified and non-qualified ones.

To clarify (just in case I was not clear enough) this has nothing to do with nationality. My refusal to accept the presence of unqualified ESL writers in this industry will not change; my support of qualified ESL writers will not change; I openly admit that we hire ESL writers - QUALIFIED ONES. Furthermore, I am completely and unwaveringly opposed to the presence of any unqualified writers in this industry, irrespective of nationality.

The reality which I refuse to accept, by the way, is also an illegal and unethical "reality." Any who hire unqualified writers while OPENLY DECLARING THAT THEIR WRITERS ARE QUALIFIED (masters and PhDs) are in violation of UK law; any who claim only to hire Brits and Americans, but hire writers from all over the place, are in violation of UK law (even if the writers are qualified) ... reason? Small thing called Consumer Protection Act.

Aggravating, isn't it?

There seems to be too much on English versus ESL where in my opinion, the only question is ability. I have seen college students with writing skills (or lack of) that make me wonder how they graduated high school. Just being a native speaker does not mean the person is a qualified writer. Some ESL students who study the laguage and grammar actually have better command of the language because of that study.

However, I agree the companies mislead people and not to say they should do this, but if they adversise ESL writers people may be less apt to buy from them because they will automatically think the person is unable to complete the paper well. This is why using generalizations and stereotypes causes problems. I'm not condoning misleading websites in any way as people should be aware of what they are buying.

If I were running a site, I would just assure my customers that competent writers would be used that best meet the needs of an individual paper. And really, if companies did that there would not be a problem. However, some use "cheap" writers - ESL and otherwise to scam people and make money. People associate the scames with ESL companies/writers and then any offhsore company, even legitimate, gets a bad rep. for that.

Better time and effort would be sent measuring the quality of what is coming out of each company. Are the writers following the requirements? Are the papers well written? If yes, then beyond that is irrelevant.

PRECISELY!!!!!!!!!!!!

you got to have the juice to write and the juice knows no imaginary borders

You make this sound so much more exhilarating than it really is. My juice has been running for twenty pages and I have almost as many more to go. I wish someone would cut me off from the juice...

Anderson was a fraud!

the juice is actually for real stuff, sometimes I forget. papers aren't real.

Interesting post from July 15, 2007: essayscam.org/forum/es/proof-alexey-vitchenko-ukraine-registered-263/#msg3510

Merged topic:

Essaywriters.com is a fraud

Hi everyone,

I know this is a mundane topic here but i just want everyone to know how essaywriters.net is a fraudalent company, i am using the same ID and email address i use at essaywriters.net, i would like them to know that they owe me more than $500 but i dont care as my sense of moralilty is quite higher than they can imagine, since most of my family are laywers based in England ( I am also one), and since this company is registered, i might apply for a legal suite against them, as for new writers, i advise them not to join essaywriters.net as they are not fair in compensating thier employees, infact they dont even have the courtesy of replying back, its evident that their website is quite well developed but the people handling them are quite inefficient and slow.

Essay writers, i could blackmail you at this very moment as i have enough evidence with me to litrally sue you to your last penny or atleast market your company on the internet so that everyone would know that your a fraud!, so you can take away my hard earned money from me by making a fool out of me but i tell you this " you will go down in the gutter!". My kids and family depends on earning from my work, i curse you to go down like the gutter rats you all are.

My issues are quite similar to what every other writer here has faced, so i dont need to descirbe what issues i might hav faced, those issues will be discussed legally when the time comes, as for now i recommend and request new writers not to join essaywriters.net, they will make you work hard, and than not pay you, they dont even bother to give any excuses, they are scum!. Please do read the other threads on this website, i have also read them but did not give heed to them as i thought that this was all something to blackmail them, but its the truth, if you dont believe me that please do start working for them, but i would love your feedback in a couple of months. I am quite sure that 100% of people working for them would have the same opinion as i do.

Please dont waste your precious thoughts and energy on essaywriters.net, they are a cartel which owns 20-40 different companies and are scamming people all around the globe especially in Australia.

Regards,

Saad Ahmed

While I agree that this company is a complete scam, you are entirely unbelievable. A lawyer in England that can't spell the word "suit"? Please.

The fact is, you got screwed because you work for a scam company The fact that the company was willing to hire you as an English academic writer should have been a clue that they were up to no good, as your skills are far below the standard required by legitimate companies. Your customers got screwed, and so did you--seems like full circle to me.

Spelling suite? its 2:am here, i am angry that someone took advantage of my skills, made a fool out of me and made me waste my precious time on projects which paid me nothing and screwed me over, and your wining over my spelling? are you a retard? I have a masters in marketing, i am also a lawyer who thought he could make extra money from freelance writing and i am trying to warn people not to be fooled and your checking spelling mistakes on a forum? whats wrong with you?

I dont care what you think, as long as my message goes forward. As per my english writing skills, i have enough to communicate and be a successful and "rich" person in this society, so it doesnt matter if cockroaches like you check the validity of my lifestyle through my english writing skills, I save each of my hard earned penny and will not tolerate people who take advantage of me.

As for you, i could teach you more english than you could ever learn. I have seen you posts, bunch of mundane antics!, thats all that there is to you, MUNDANE!!, would you like me to use synonym for mundane? or have is there a spelling mistake somewhere which you could detect with your superior english-intellect?

Again people, essaywriters.net is a scam and people like Pheelyks are just trolls, you are a TROLL! if you dont have anything good to add to this thread than just shut the hell up.

Sahmedtrg, you deserved to get ripped off (by one of the most notoriously fraudulent companies in the industry).

1. Your "writing" skills are a joke.

2. Only an idiot applies to an online, freelance company without researching it first.

3. "Your" does not mean "you are."

4. A comma is not the same as a period.

5. If you're going to post a complaint, at least type the damn domain name correctly. (It's essaywriters.net, not essaywriters.com.)

Obtain a basic education before purporting to be a professional writer and-by extension-ripping off innocent customers, OK?

Still spelled wrong, and as a "lawyer" (and a "writer") you ought to know that.


*that, not which


*whining (or whinging, in the UK)


You're a lawyer that needs to earn extra money at $4-$6 per page? You must be a really s-i*ty lawyer...


*you're


*what's


again, at the per-page rates that EW pays, I sincerely doubt that


huh?


*pennies


That's oxymoronic, in addition to being plain old moronic.


*your


*that's


I'm not sure this means what you think it means. It's certainly not as cutting as you appear to think it is in context.


Actually, yes. I'm curious to see what you think this means and how it applies here.


Several (see above).


*don't


Well that's not very nice....

Right, so you people check spelling and grammatical mistakes other than discussing on real issues? i dont remember posting on pleasecritiquemygrammar.com

You people have too much time on your hand, what kind of retards are you? i am sure that english is not you first language, inferiority complex? what are you trying to prove? i post a valid subject of interest and you guys rip me off by saying that i deserve it? regardless of what you say, you both are "nobody's" to judge anyone. And if that is not according to your uneducated standards than i would like to use "sign language".

Please reply if you have any valid comments about the issue, i wont be replying back to any disrespects geared towards me

And please, i know your a bunch of losers with no jobs or a future, i have found in my life that people who disrespect others have no respect for themselves either.

I can also easily spot keyboard warriors like you, your not even worth typing for, you have no regard for other people, your standards are high but please, do face the mirror, and you will see a fat/ugly closet-nudist checking grammatical mistakes on forums, is this your pride? catching grammatical mistakes? please get a life, if your not helpful to somoene than atleast dont be rude. Act with dignity, if you dont have any than i would love to DHL you some, i will send you all the dignity in the shape of a shaft. I hope my english was clear enough for you Noble's to understand, if its not than no one cares.

Btw, i am also a member at elance.com, i have dont many projects concering law, marketing and seo activities, the fact is that they are all satisfied and have become my regular clients.

Anyways, i learn from my mistakes. I can safely say that you people are extremly rude and useless to talk to. Cheers :)

Actually, they can and they will. They are not the only company that has done this to their writers. I have it on good authority that several other firms engage in this practice. Normally, they cancel the account when they owe their writers about a thousand or more. When the writer protests the fines and other penalties that would have ended up with him receiving only 20% of the actual salary they owed, the account gets cancelled. They keep the full amount and do not feel the need to explain to the writer why these things happened. They always believe themselves to be above the law and unfortunately, it often appears that way.

This is the main problem when working in an unregulated industry. The company owners make up the rules as they go along, without needing to inform their writers. The students do not have a clue either which is why they get scammed. The writers often do not vet the company that they are applying to because they equate legality with a Google search. Writers have tried time and time again to take down this company but they fail because of a lack of legal backing. It is hard to close down a company that can list its address as being anywhere in the world. Thus avoiding any legal responsibilities to their writers who do not have a legitimate contract in place since they are freelancers anyway. The lesson ? Never work for any company without a freelancers contract. Yes, a freelancer contract does exist.

Even the perfect contract provides ZERO protection to writers if they can't identify the company's true location. Furthermore, even if you do know the company's exact location, a contract still provides ZERO protection if flying abroad to a foreign court to enforce that contract (or hiring someone local to pursue your claim for you) costs 10X or 100X the amount of money at issue in the dispute. They're totally worthless and totally unenforceable by writers unless you know exactly where the company is located AND you happen to live in the same city or within a relatively short driving distance. The amount of money at issue in most disputes between writers and non-paying companies isn't even worth traveling to another state in the same country, let alone flying to distant countries.