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beatrice  - | 64     Freelance Writer
Jun 08, 2011 | #41
As they say: "Work hard and play hard." You're right that I try to take as many projects as possible during the "busy seasons" but then I also take several weeks off during the "low seasons." Writing example essays is a seasonal job, after all ;-).

Some people are early birds, others are night owls. Excuse me, but what is wrong with that?
essaybrah  1 | 65  
Jun 08, 2011 | #42
All of this has of course been explained to you numerous times, and you respond with more conjectures, assumptions and ultimately insults.

I have picked up writing too and probably spend 20 hours a week on it. The income is certainly better than what I earn as a full time white collar professional.

If you can become efficient at writing and have a entrepreneurial mindset, the situation can certainly be optimized.
WritersBeware  
Jun 08, 2011 | #43
Let's assume that you are correct. AND? What's your point?

Um, no, as*hole. It's called "forcing an ignorant propagandist to prove its baseless accusations."

First of all, this claim (as your previous similar claims) is based on your conjecture, not any actual experience or evidence.

Editor75 is a propagandist and an idiot. He won't be able to process your facts.
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jun 08, 2011 | #44
WritersBeware is in a hysterical tizzy of denial, and getting more and more insulting. just admit that you work for *********, WB. you'll feel a lot nicer. you can obviously still keep up your denial about that fact not clouding the accountability and integrity of your pseudo-objective position on this board.
WritersBeware  
Jun 08, 2011 | #45
Blah, blah, blah. Same bu*ls.

1. I'm not here to be "nice," so f- you.

2. I don't work for ET or any other site. You fail to provide any evidence whatsoever to the contrary. Hell, you can't even state WHY or HOW it is that you have come to your ignorant conclusion. You're spineless.

3. You can't quote a single assertion that I have made that is false. That's quite pathetic.

4. For what site do YOU work, a-ole? (Yeah, two can play that game.)
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jun 08, 2011 | #46
my position here is one of an interested observer. I do not purport to expose scams under the veil of crusading morality, while hiding the fact that most of my allegations are against my competitors.
WritersBeware  
Jun 08, 2011 | #47
my position here is one of an interested observer.

Liar. (Hindsight is 20/20, isn't it? Regretting that revealing username of yours a tad, hah?) You have already admitted to being a "writer" and/or "editor." You have had a vested, economic interest in posting false propaganda about me ever since I outed your "business ideas" as those of an incompetent, clueless buffoon.

Here's a classic quote from from the idiot:

I do think that [freelance] writers should have pensions, [medical coverage, paid vacations], as well as overtime pay.

editor75  13 | 1844  
Jun 08, 2011 | #48
I picked my name randomly, based on a former profession. I have no vested interest in this industry, nor do I use this forum to promote any agenda besides exposing hypocrisy and promoting better treatment for writers.
WritersBeware  
Jun 08, 2011 | #49
I picked my name randomly

Right.

I have no vested interest in this industry

Sure.

exposing hypocrisy

You've exposed nothing but your own ignorance and stupidity.

promoting better treatment for writers

Yeah, even after multiple writers have told you that your "promotion" is moronic.
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jun 08, 2011 | #50
I may be over-optimistic about industry change, but at least I'm not a liar. I'm open about what I'm promoting here.
WritersBeware  
Jun 08, 2011 | #51
I may be over-optimistic about industry change

Previous post:

I have no vested interest in this industry

at least I'm not a liar

Yes, you are-you just proved it. Thanks for playing, idiot.
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jun 08, 2011 | #52
I don't have to have a vested interest in the industry to want better treatment for writers. I just have to be a human being.

you're really grasping at straws. you've tried denial, insults, and deflections, and now you're down to one-word interjections. backpedaling is right.
WritersBeware  
Jun 08, 2011 | #53
F?*k off, Elmer. You won't post the slightest bit of evidence or reasoning because you know damn well that you CAN'T. I can't prove a negative, you fu**-n dimwit. For all that is good and holy, go back to school.

I post truthful, fact-backed information that prevents thousands of visitors from potentially being ripped off every month. Guess what-they thank me for it, too. My evidence is undeniable. What do YOU contribute besides personal propaganda? Jack-s-i*, that's what.

Stop waiting forum space. Nobody likes, respects, trusts, or believes anything that you type. Yes-that's an ABSOLUTE statement.
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jun 09, 2011 | #54
you don't like what I type, because it unsettles your veneer of objectivity. since you work for *********, and I reveal this often, it's obvious that you have a personal interest in disparaging certain companies (your competitors) on this board.
WritersBeware  
Jun 09, 2011 | #55
it unsettles your veneer of objectivity

Tell me-when did I ever state that I am objective? I am openly against ALL dishonest and fraudulent sites.

it's obvious that you have a personal interest in disparaging certain companies

Listen, you dirty bastard, all you have to do is quote ONE statement that I have made about ANY site/company that is untrue. ONE-too difficult?

FYI, "disparaging" suggests that the object is not deserving of criticism and/or not engaging in fraudulent business practices. Name any site/company that I have "disparaged," and I will gladly show you-with evidence-how it is deserving of my statement(s). Deal?
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jun 09, 2011 | #56
you are openly against your competitors, posting as a neutral 3rd party.

let's say this forum is about pizza. it's pizzascam.org. the mission is to note which pizza delivery services produce cold or unappetizing pizza.

now, let's say I'm a male owner of a Pizza Hut franchise. I come on, and I do nothing but insult people who say that Pizza Hut is greasy. I also rail against Domino's and Papa John's. when it starts to become obvious who I am, I identify myself as a female, and lie and say that I don't work for Pizza Hut. then, I backpedal and say that it doesn't matter who I work for, or whether I'm lying or not, because Domino's tastes funny, and Papa John's delivery people are often late.

what an insane and stupid waste of time this would be! I'm glad I'm not this hypothetical, transparent liar.
WritersBeware  
Jun 09, 2011 | #57
Your analogy is quite poor, idiot.

1. This isn't a forum about pizza or major, trusted brands.

2. Some people like greasy pizza; some people don't. Either way, making greasy pizza is not a crime. It's not fraudulent. It's not deceptive. No native Eglish-speaking, American student wants to receive ESL garbage.

3. If Pizza Hut were advertising that it uses "only the finest, freshest, Italian cheese," and the owner of Dominoes has proof that it actually uses crappy, frozen, artificial cheese, consumers would greatly appreciate Dominoes' evidence that prevents them from being duped.

4. Stop embarrassing yourself.
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jun 10, 2011 | #58
I can't believe you took the stuff about pizza seriously, and missed the whole point. the point was, if I disguised my identity as a Pizza Hut franchise owner, and said that I was simply an industry observer, I would be intentionally covering up my allegiances, in order to disguise my natural propensity as a representative of the company for which I work to disrespect my competitors and play up the benefits of my own brand.
WritersBeware  
Jun 10, 2011 | #59
Apparently, you don't know how to read very well or can't comprehend my response.

play up the benefits of my own brand

Quote a single post in which I have suggested, promoted, recommended, or in any way advertised ET after 4+ years and 7,350+ posts.
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jun 10, 2011 | #60
you mean, besides acting as their customer service rep, or do you want me to include those?
pcpisces12  - | 1  
Jun 19, 2011 | #61
Dear Evorus:

I wish you success in your business plan for an essay writing / research company.

I strongly suggest that you make the circumstances of the entity transparent. For instance, indicate in your website your land-based address, telephone numbers, email address, etc. You may incur additional costs resultant of this due to unavoidable taxes. However, I believe, it will pay in the end.

Never underpay your writers. I have had a lot of sad experiences as a writer where I was short-changed or, to put it more bluntly, cheated.

I desire to collaborate with you. You may contact me at pcpisces12@yahoo.sg.

Thank you.

Truly,

pcpisces12
pheelyks  
Jun 19, 2011 | #62
I have had a lot of sad experiences as a writer where I was short-changed or, to put it more bluntly, cheated.

When you don't actually possess the skills you offer as a professional service, getting screwed is going to keep being a way of life.

Knowing big words does not equal English fluency. You need to improve your writing a great deal before any legitimate company will hire you.
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jun 19, 2011 | #63
how's the screenplay going, ace?

there are no legitimate companies in this industry. there are companies for which you work, and their competitors.

which reminds me... WB, when are you going to disclose your conflict of interest?
WritersBeware  
Jun 19, 2011 | #64
Editor75, you bore me. You are a pathetic, tiny man who obviously has no social life. Until you provide some evidence to support your propaganda, you will remain nothing more than a laughing stock for which all visitors feel pity. Good job.
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jun 19, 2011 | #65
WB, I think you're engaging in what psychologists call, "projection." projection happens when you take characteristics you feel inadequate about in yourself, and foist them onto strangers whom you know nothing about. your post makes you look insecure about your own social life and the way you are perceived on this board, but it doesn't really affect me.

I suggest you adjust your ammo, and instead of projecting your fears and insecurities onto the blank canvas of my persona here, try finding some kind of realistic, or at least demonstrable, fodder. for example, I happen to know that you work for *********, and so, I say so. while it may be tempting, I don't make blind assumptions about your personal life... simply because this is not something about which I'm sure.

racists, btw, are great examples of "projectionists--" the idea is that one may feel that one's own group has inherent problems, which are negated by stereotyping other groups as having these problems instead, or being their cause, exclusively... your recent profiling of Indians and Kenyans shows that you may be engaging in a less personal, but just as insidious, form of projection, on a larger, and more potentially damaging, level.

it's just something to think about.
WritersBeware  
Jun 19, 2011 | #66
I happen to know that you work for *********, and so, I say so.

Only a tiny, insignificant semi-man makes cowardly accusations that he can't substantiate with even a shred of evidence. You're truly pathetic.

By the way, it's obvious that you are nobody's father (shocker), since you are sad enough to waste Father's Day on your mindless propaganda campaign.
pheelyks  
Jun 19, 2011 | #67
how's the screenplay going, ace?

I have never attempted to write a screenplay. You really need to stop taking generic examples I give as features of my life.

there are no legitimate companies in this industry

Wrong.

there are companies for which you work, and their competitors.

And some of those competitors are legitimate companies. And some of them aren't. I've attacked certain companies that I used to work for, and defended companies I don't work for. A potential bias only destroys credibility for those that have no scruples themselves.

I happen to know that you work for *********

That's the kind of statement that requires evidence for people that like logic. You might believe that WB works for ET, and might even be able to argue that it is probably using evidence on this forum. Claiming to "know" it without being able to offer any proof is ridiculous (not to mention repetitive).
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jun 19, 2011 | #68
WB-- it is Father's Day, son, and I'm asking for you to come clean and disclose your conflict of interest. make your mother and I proud.

Pheelyks-- sorry; if not a screenplay, what have you attempted to write? cookbooks?
pheelyks  
Jun 19, 2011 | #69
Pheelyks-- sorry; if not a screenplay, what have you attempted to write? cookbooks?

Poetry (published), short stories (not yet published, but then I've only ever finished three and haven't ever sent any off), and lots of academic work for which I earn a salary about twice that of the average journalist (and many times that of the average poet/short story writer).
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jun 19, 2011 | #70
interesting... a chapbook, or a book? self-published, or a publisher? for coming off here as such a money-hungry twerp, I never took you for a poet.
pheelyks  
Jun 19, 2011 | #71
a chapbook, or a book? self-published, or a publisher

A literary magazine, published by a college but very highly reputed (consistent winner of numerous awards from Columbia's annual contest, including first place for form poetry the year mine was published...for my poem).

for coming off here as such a money-hungry twerp, I never took you for a poet.

See, that's why jumping to conclusions is a bad thing to do. You come off as an assh*le that likes to argue ill-thought-out and baseless points, but I don't think that means anything about your character other than your an assh*le that likes to argue ill-thought-out and baseless points.
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jun 19, 2011 | #72
your an assh*le that

*you're an asole who...

Knowing big words does not equal English fluency.

what about knowing small words, relative pronouns, and simple contractions? ...or maybe this is for some kind of poetic effect?
WritersBeware  
Jun 19, 2011 | #73
Editor75 is just bitter because he can't get a decent job from one of the legitimate companies. Based on his moronic assumptions, false accusations, complete lack of research skills, inability to support his claims, and general cluelessness about the industry, I'm not at all surprised that no legit company in the research industry will touch him with a 10-foot pole.

"Editor," my ass . . . . The dope fails to properly capitalize and punctuate in nearly every one of his posts.

LMAO!
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jun 20, 2011 | #74
once again: there are no legitimate companies in this industry. there are just competitors. when you make a living doing people's homework for them, I think it's very risky to try and take the moral high ground. and it's even riskier to assume anything about a stranger on a message board. "write what you know," WB. save us your disturbing, idiotic laughter, and tell us a few things about the inner workings of *********/SNR.
pheelyks  
Jun 20, 2011 | #75
Yes, Buford, you caught me; I made the same mistake twice (the "who/that" argument is one of those prescriptive/descriptive things, and you were on the descriptive side before--you can't switch sides just because it's convenient...well, YOU can, I know, but it doesn't help your case).

Remember what I keep saying about how you ignore anything of substance and go after nit-picky details as a means of continuing the argument when you're entirely out of gas?
WritersBeware  
Jun 20, 2011 | #76
it's even riskier to assume anything about a stranger on a message board.

I'm not assuming anything about you. I (and others) have already concretely proven-with facts and evidence-that you are a clueless idiot.

"Editor," my ass . . . . The dope fails to properly capitalize and punctuate in nearly every one of his posts.

Again, please learn how to properly capitalize (a product of your laziness) and punctuate (a product of your incompetence).
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jun 20, 2011 | #77
you ignore anything of substance

you would be right, if you didn't set yourself up as the arbiter of English on this board. as it is, you can't have it both ways. you need to take some pills or something to make yourself smarter.

please learn how to properly capitalize (a product of your laziness) and punctuate (a product of your incompetence).

in related news, it's a message board, and I'll assume any damn style I want. I'm not screwing up simple words like "dweller" and contractions like "you're," so watch who you're calling an idiot. ask your peg-boy for some smart pills, and then come after my chosen style of capital-letter-less presentation.
pheelyks  
Jun 20, 2011 | #78
if you didn't set yourself up as the arbiter of English on this board

I didn't, and don't. Again, things don't become true simply because you repeat them.

Basically, you're saying that no one can correct someone else, or point out their continued abuse of the English language, unless they themselves are perfect in their usage. I have never claimed to be perfect, have freely acknowledged that I make mistakes, and ignore typos and minor mistakes made by others. I also point out glaring and repetitive errors in others' writing when they come here trying to sell their writing services/advertise their companies and clearly don't know how to construct a decent sentence/paragraph without encountering multiple errors. This hardly makes me the "arbiter of English" on this forum.

Yet again, would you care to return to a substantive discussion, or would you like to keep going in circles with more of your completely unfounded claims?
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jun 20, 2011 | #79
here's my claim, you pompous, cretinous braggart: you wouldn't know your ass from a hole in the ground if someone drew you a map.
pheelyks  
Jun 20, 2011 | #80
Oh, good. So we are going to back to those rational debates you keep insisting you desire, then.




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