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WritersBeware  
Jun 27, 2011 | #161
wondering who sold you out?

Nobody, because you are lying. I have never worked for SNR, ET, or any other essay company.

try asking nice.

Can you please reveal who provided you with the screenshots that you didn't keep?
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jun 27, 2011 | #162
a moment of worry... and the facade goes right back up.
WritersBeware  
Jun 27, 2011 | #163
You think that I am worrying"? LMAO! I have absolutely nothing about which to worry. We both know that to be fact. You can sing and dance for the masses all you like. Just remember one thing: when you're negotiating a settlement down the road, don't expect a shred of mercy.
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jun 27, 2011 | #164
still after the rat, huh? well, I'll give you credit for saying please, WB. the answer is no.

btw, I don't think I've ever seen anyone make an emptier threat. I suppose it's comforting for you to relish a hypothetical future victory, if you can't achieve one in the present. do everyone a favor and keep it to yourself, though-- it's pathetic to see.
WritersBeware  
Jun 27, 2011 | #165
the answer is no.

Yeah, that's what I thought, you little f*g.
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jun 28, 2011 | #166
I'm a pretty big straight guy, actually-- six feet, 180. anything else you want me to clear up, you weird fake?
pheelyks  
Jun 28, 2011 | #167
anything else you want me to clear up

Pretty much every claim you've ever made on this forum. We've asked repeatedly.
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jun 28, 2011 | #168
good to see that you're back to your senses, pheelyks. you've apparently come to the same conclusion I have regarding the relevance of dadaism. care to answer my question now?
WritersBeware  
Jun 28, 2011 | #169
care to answer my question now?

F?*k you.

Pheelyks, let's ignore the cretin. He doesn't deserve our responses. Honestly, we should have put him on ignore long ago.
pheelyks  
Jun 28, 2011 | #170
Filigree.
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jun 28, 2011 | #171
it's no use, WB. pheelyks would rather spout utter nonsense than say you don't creep him out.
WritersBeware  
Jun 28, 2011 | #172
pheelyks would rather spout utter nonsense than say you don't creep him out.

LMAO! Aren't the moron's imaginings interesting?
pheelyks  
Jun 28, 2011 | #173
I'm trying your method of responding, Buford, only I'm not being coy about it.

This has nothing to do with "avoiding" your ridiculous question, which is invalid on its face as it assumes facts that are not true.

Lollipop.
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jun 29, 2011 | #174
Aren't the moron's imaginings interesting?

not really, WB. anyone can think of random words.

pheelyks, WB had a pretty good idea re: ignoring me. why aren't you marching in step?

I think it's great that you keep avoiding this question. it's been almost a whole page!

the question may have assumed some things, but it left the door wide open for you to slam it shut on those assumptions. WB creeps you out, right? all you have to say is "no..." but you won't say it! ...hilarious. my favorite part is how nervous WB is acting. I think he had you pegged as his bff.
pheelyks  
Jun 29, 2011 | #175
pheelyks, I think it's great that you keep avoiding this question. it's been almost a whole page!

editor75, I think it's great that you keep avoiding every relevant question you've been asked! it's been over six months!

the questions may not have assumed things not already in evidence, but the left the door wide open for you to make such wild assumptions yourself. evidence creeps you out, right? all you gave to say is, "I don't have a fu**-n clue what I'm talking about..." but you won't say it! ....pathetic. my favorite part is how you pretend everyone else is irrational. i think you have us confused with 4chan.
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jun 29, 2011 | #176
...and you still won't say it? now this is just getting awkward!
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jun 29, 2011 | #177
speaking of creepy, WB's laugh-out-louds are always good for a shudder.

I remember doing something similar to what you two are doing, btw. it's fun, right? I have a lot of good memories from second grade.
pheelyks  
Jun 29, 2011 | #178
I have a lot of good memories from second grade.

Yesterday, all your troubles seemed so far away? Now it seems as though you're here to stay. But why, when you've got nothing to say?
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jun 30, 2011 | #179
check out what I've reduced WB and pheelyks to: babbling gimps. I should take this show on the road.
pheelyks  
Jun 30, 2011 | #180
check out what editor75 reduced himself to: baseless ramblings. he should take his ass to a library.
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jun 30, 2011 | #181
choose a side, please, pheelyks. either you're ignoring me and barking with your best pal WB, or you're responding to my posts (which means responding to a certain question).
WritersBeware  
Jun 30, 2011 | #182
Succotash
pheelyks  
Jun 30, 2011 | #183
which means responding to a certain question

I asked first. You answer me, I'll explain why your question is invalid (and answer as much of the question is valid).

In case you have trouble re-reading posts (what do I mean, "in case"?), here's the question:

Where are the threads where I repeat
editor75:
the same dumb, self-serving defense mechanism that anyone who disagrees with you is not logically furthering the discussion

?

Corpuscle.

Rhododendron.
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jun 30, 2011 | #184
that's easy, pheelyks-- just look at any post where someone argues with you, or you're an arrogant dick to someone and they react with understandable (logical) resentment. you'll find yourself, complaining of their lack of reason and logic.

WB-- what happened to "RustyIronChains" when he "went too far--" did you steal someone else's unfunny idea and bore him to death with it?
WritersBeware  
Jun 30, 2011 | #185
Rigmarole
pheelyks  
Jun 30, 2011 | #186
that's easy, pheelyks-- just look at any post where someone argues with you, or you're an arrogant dick to someone and they react with understandable (logical) resentment. you'll find yourself, complaining of their lack of reason and logic.

See, this isn't an answer. I provided you with several pieces of evidence that directly counter your assertion. Answering my question requires you to locate one single thread where I have reacted as you claim I "always" do. Until you answer my question--and thus demonstrate that you actually understand and are desirous of rational conversation--you won't be getting any rational responses from me, either.

Filigree.
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jun 30, 2011 | #187
unfortunately, pheelyks, you have your head so far up your ass that you'll never see your own boring denial patterns, or the boring denial patterns you've taken as your own (WB's endless quest for the empiricism he himself cannot provide). for that, I pity you.

btw, you both have a funny way of ignoring me, which I wish you would do. instead, it looks a lot like a sideshow.

come one, come all-- see the gibbering gimps. some say they escaped from a psych ward; others say they were raised by ostriches. ask them anything!
pheelyks  
Jun 30, 2011 | #188
unfortunately, editor75, you have your head so far up your ass that you'll never see your own repeated avoidance of anything resembling a rational debate, or the avoidance of anything resembling evidence you've adopted as your creed. for that, I pity you.

btw, you have a funny way of trying to sidestep the very same problem you're accusing me of, which I wish you wouldn't do. instead, you look a lot like a an ineffectual whiner.

come one, come all-- see the absolutely nothing of value. some say he just never went to school; others say he was raised by baptists. ask him anything (just don't expect a relevant or fact-based answer)!
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jun 30, 2011 | #189
I suppose imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
OP Evorus  1 | 3   Observer
Jul 27, 2011 | #190
Dear Editor75,

I believed no one would have responded this question after WB's comments, and am shocked to have seen it turn into such a slug match.

Thanks for the help. It appears this industry is shambolic and has a lot of room for improvement, especially when money can be made from it.

I already have all my answers to 85% of my questions. It appears most of these companies can afford to pay their writers more and offer essays cheaper - but they are happy with their high profit margins. Furthermore, most of their terms & conditions leave them exposed in more ways than one. It would be great to see how many small court cases they fight, if consumers knew their rights.

I have one question, and hopefully I can rub WB the wrong way. Let him flame all he wants, it is music to my ears.

Do you, or anyone else for that matter know what project management tools or systems these companies use to post their jobs for freelancers to complete? A heads up would be nice, and if a copy of any companies freelance contract can be obtained that would be brilliant.

Kind regards,

Evorus
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jul 27, 2011 | #191
It appears most of these companies can afford to pay their writers more and offer essays cheaper.

the customers in this industry are dumb as rocks, and a lot of the companies are run by mobbed-up scumbags (who are also dumb as rocks). a lot of their contracts are about getting the customer to think that the company doesn't have him/her by the short hairs. once the customers take the step of purchasing a "research guide," it becomes a very slippery slope for them.

Do you, or anyone else for that matter know what project management tools or systems these companies use to post their jobs for freelancers to complete?

it varies. you can tell which online sites are run by whom, because they tend to use the same interface. if you want a sample contract, try applying to a few places.
OP Evorus  1 | 3   Observer
Jul 28, 2011 | #192
Dear Editor,

Thanks, yeah the contract acquisition isn't a problem. I can often tell which website belongs to who, but do you know how they relay the jobs to writers at the back end. I am aware that TORG use something called the exchange, which allows freelancers to bid for projects. I think the majority seem to have a bidding system, but I can't locate anything.

Regards,

Evorus
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jul 28, 2011 | #193
it depends on the company-- most have evolved their own back-end systems, or use the same system across multiple affiliates. a lot of companies have systems that are hierarchical and based on bidding.
OP Evorus  1 | 3   Observer
Jul 28, 2011 | #194
I really appreciate this, and finally I have one last question, although in hindsight it might appear silly.

Is the price bidding system based on the company just selecting a winner from a pool of bidders wanting to do the job; OR

Do the freelancers literally bid (with lower competitive prices) to win the project; OR

A combination of both.

Regards,

Evorus
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jul 28, 2011 | #195
it's a combination. at times, the customer is also involved in the bidding process. say someone wants a 2 page paper for tomorrow-- they place an order, and the company puts out a $30 order. no one takes it, because the pay's too low. in some systems, writers can actually bid this order up, rather than down, in price.
th63  - | 400  
Jul 13, 2012 | #196
That's just what the world needs, yet another one of these companies!
andywoods57  1 | 86   Freelance Writer
Jul 22, 2012 | #197
The market is huge for such companies and while selecting a writer, the company needs to be also careful otherwise they will have unsatisfied customers in return.
Jomo777  - | 1   Observer
Mar 30, 2014 | #198
Editor75 I have seen that criticize WB a lot however, I have yet to see the proof.
queen sheba  53 | 648 ☆☆   Observer
Mar 30, 2014 | #199
WB is a psychotic imbecile and if you haven't figured out that, you better book a shrink for check up. each and every post from it leaks with schizophrenic rage and hallucinatory invectives brought about by bouts of delusory self-aggrandizements.

Editor75 has nothing to prove.
writers2beware  29 | 1712 ☆☆  
Mar 31, 2014 | #200
Queen sheba is the only psycho in these parts. She's a bleached blonde criminal from Australia who has been banned from this forum at least 18 times. She is completely incapable of reasoned thought, let alone debate. I have squashed her false claims with evidence and facts so many times that I no longer bother. The bi* is just flat out nuts.




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