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good-writers.com & 4writers.net


Ekta  9 | 19   Freelance Writer
Dec 01, 2008 | #1
Hello!

Are these sites good...

good-writers.com
4writers.net

I have got an opportunity to work for them.

Please guide should I work with them?

Is anyone working for them?

Did anyone receive payment from them?

Thank you and best wishes,
Ekta
whitegrim  3 | 69   Freelance Writer
Dec 03, 2008 | #2
Just started to work with them...
I am little bit worried though... But still not sure until something pops up
Will let you...!!!

Hi WB!
How are you doing ???
Did you miss me???
MAK  3 | 119  
Dec 03, 2008 | #3
They are parts of essaywriters.net and writers.ph.
They have even placed the same testimonials on their homepages...so watch out...also look out for superwriters.us.....they have ripped off the design and content of another website......
OP Ekta  9 | 19   Freelance Writer
Dec 10, 2008 | #4
Good Poet WriterDear WB and Mak,

I was sent the following message from 4writers.net. Can you please throw some light on it.

Thank you and best wishes,

Ekta

****
The message received by me is as under:

Dear Writers,

As you know very often some writers use plagiarism in papers they write and this is unacceptable. As for me, I don't really care that you copy pace material from Internet, however as for the customer the do care. In many case they turn in the essays as their own and very often if you copy pace word by word their teachers can determine (by using special plagiarism software) as well as I do, from what Internet sources the material was taken.

I know it is hard to write all papers from scratch especially in such short period of time. Thus I may give you a couple hints how to not be caught.

1. First of all you may use some Internet libraries such as questia. The site has a lot of material which could not be caught by plagiarism software. In the mater of fact you can check your self, if the text you plan to use for paper is on Internet, by simply pacing the text into google search box. google.com

The library is not free but very helpful for your work. Trust me it is worth it to buy it. Moreover, if you want I can buy it for you (I can subtract the price from your salary)

2. You may use site such as fratfiles. I also can buy the subscription for you. By using this site you need to check all information using google search box.

I really hope my hints will help you to provide high quality papers and get more money for me and for you self.

If you interested to subscribe questia or fratfiles please contact me via email infoessays@gmail

Thanks,

Paul
alice  1 | 61  
Dec 10, 2008 | #5
excellent example of "essay scam" :)
Lavinia  4 | 495 ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Dec 10, 2008 | #6
That letter is awful.
WritersBeware  
Dec 10, 2008 | #7
Wow! That may be the boldest fraud that I have EVER seen.

The proper course of action is to alert both questia and fratfiles and suggest to the owner of each site that he/she file DMCA actions, as well as investigate the possibility of a civil suit for large-scale copyright infringement. Obviously, the buffoon who wrote that email is not American, so that may lead to legal inconveniences.
nee  1 | 20  
Dec 11, 2008 | #8
Hi Ekta..have u got any payments from them?i mean from good-writers ??
serene  
Dec 11, 2008 | #9
I heard that they pay. But the payment is very low.
OP Ekta  9 | 19   Freelance Writer
Dec 11, 2008 | #10
Though I am a writer in their database...I have not done any assignment for them...the reason being the above email that they have posted on their website... I don't like them...I won't work for them....NEVER

Thank you
nee  1 | 20  
Dec 11, 2008 | #11
Anyone in this group writing fro good-writers or 4 writers??

pls tell any sites which pays....i am badly in need of money and is tired of essay frauds :(...i dont care even if the payment is low..Ekta are u writing for any other companies?

and wht payment method do u people usually adopt?paypal?
EW_writer  21 | 1981 ☆☆☆  
Dec 11, 2008 | #12
@ letter

Icky.
nee  1 | 20  
Dec 11, 2008 | #13
LETTER??????????

whitegrim did they pay u?? r there any issues?
whitegrim  3 | 69   Freelance Writer
Dec 18, 2008 | #14
just waiting... Around 23...
will let you know
nee  1 | 20  
Dec 29, 2008 | #15
Hi i got paid...55 dollars from 4writers
whitegrim  3 | 69   Freelance Writer
Dec 29, 2008 | #16
YUP... Me paid too...
nee  1 | 20  
Jan 06, 2009 | #17
is 4writers suspended? i cant even login into it
Rekha  2 | 26  
Jan 06, 2009 | #18
Hi nee and whitegrim,

This is Rekha i am working for good-writers and 4writers from dec 14th i got 74 dollars first payment from 4writers.I changed my pay pal id yesterday till this min i am unable to access my account it showing account not enabled now. Even i mailed to the support team no response.

Nee is your account got enabled?
whitegrim  3 | 69   Freelance Writer
Jan 06, 2009 | #19
This is a fault in their service that they enable accounts manually. By changing your paypal id it would have happened that the system does not recognize you. Support works slowly though but still you will get a response in a day or two.
Rekha  2 | 26  
Jan 07, 2009 | #20
Thank you for your response grim, i am experiencing it for past three days. I missed to complete the order and client got irritated.Really i felt bad.He is not even replying,i dont know when he will rectify it.
whitegrim  3 | 69   Freelance Writer
Jan 11, 2009 | #21
wait until 14th as the guy who will make you enable is on vacations and I suppose he didn't know that the site has some bugs... The service is managed by only one person and he is on vacation. The company is not big or what and they might not be professional as well but that should not be the worry if you are getting paid. Changing the paypal id has caused many other accounts to become disable as well.
Rekha  2 | 26  
Jan 12, 2009 | #22
Oh ok grim i will wait until 14.

Hi grim ,I got $46 from good-writers.com

why no replies here? Hi, friends where are you?:-(
whitegrim  3 | 69   Freelance Writer
Feb 06, 2009 | #23
Whats up ????
ForHelp  - | 4  
Feb 06, 2009 | #24
HI,
I HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS FORUM FOR QUITE A LONG TIME. THE FORUM SEEMS TO BE AN EXCELLENT SOURCE FOR THE WRITING INDUSTRY. I HAVE BEEN VERY IMPRESSED BY THE WAY IT IS MANAGED PROPERLY. MOREOVER, LOOKING AT THE RESULTS, I CAN SEE THAT NOW MANY CUSTOMERS HAVE BEEN STOPPED TO BECOME A PART OF FRAUD AND THAT'S WHAT COUNTS.

KEEP ON DOING THIS.

THANKS
richiewetz  - | 3  
Feb 07, 2009 | #25
Alex and grandessays a big scam I JUST CANT BELIEVE IT!!
I have email correspondence to prove how they ripped me of my money
Rekha  2 | 26  
Feb 07, 2009 | #26
The below is the reply i got from good-writers & 4writers when i requested for the payment.I didn't got the payment yet. are they cheating me?

Dear Sirs and Madam,

We are very sorry for the delay of your payment however; we did not receive any money from our merchant service (we are still in process of verification). Nevertheless, as we were told by our merchant service the money should appear at our account within a week.

We are very sorry for such inconvenience but please understand that we are in the same situation as you.

4Writers.net

Custom writing administration

4.02.2009
Lavinia  4 | 495 ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Feb 07, 2009 | #27
Dear Sirs and Madam? They can't be bothered to use your name or identify even your sex? And they don't sign the administration with a name?

That's garbage.
Rekha  2 | 26  
Feb 09, 2009 | #28
Hi nee and grim,ddi you got your payment from 4writers?
whitegrim  3 | 69   Freelance Writer
Feb 09, 2009 | #29
Hi,
Same issue...
Still w8ing
Rekha  2 | 26  
Feb 10, 2009 | #30
Oh ok grim :-(. did they mentioned any date for your payment.
nee  1 | 20  
Feb 18, 2009 | #31
Hi Rekha
I have almost 80 dollars to be paid...yday admin sent me a mail saying that he will surely pay...but they have an issue with their merchant service it seems...this is wht Paul mailed me.

"We will pay for sure. The reason is that our old merchant service with whom we used to deal decided that our business is risky and they shut down accounts for all companies that sells custom written papers. Thus we had to look up for new merchant companies. One of them never paid our money (mercaway.com ) so we are looking for another.

We understand that by postponing salaries we may lose our writers but believe me I am in the same desperate situation as you are.

I hope you understood"
helpwriters  - | 2  
Feb 20, 2009 | #32
you will be get paid surely...
I have found out that admin is a good person and the situation is critical at this moment because of the merchant service. admin mostly reply, if he never does so he may not be system. Moreover, if he would have scammed than he shouldnt have bothered to give us replies to every main issue that arise from time to time. Delay has occurred but I am sure you all will be paid...

I am expecting payment tomorrow... Will give you feedback as soon I get it
whitegrim  3 | 69   Freelance Writer
Feb 20, 2009 | #33
HW... I thought you were hiring a team of professional writers... Whats up with that???
You also work for websites???
However, I am was given the payment details and will check the account tomorrow
helpwriters  - | 2  
Feb 20, 2009 | #34
No reason to get surprise...
I have told my writers about this that I also write as well and starting my own company because of the scams. I am looking forward to give professional writers an opportunity to earn with no scam threats!!!

But still when I am free I work for different websites and that is perfectly fine :)
whitegrim  3 | 69   Freelance Writer
Feb 21, 2009 | #35
Me Paid

Anyone else

???
nee  1 | 20  
Feb 23, 2009 | #36
me too paid...
Rekha  2 | 26  
Mar 15, 2009 | #37
Sorry for my late reply i too got my payment

4 writers and good writers going good, More number of orders weekly than before
roverofrage  2 | 20  
Apr 30, 2009 | #38
I joined 4writers and worked, but still scared of scam and about my payments.

Hello, No response.
OxbridgeResearchers  5 | 722 ☆☆  
May 04, 2009 | #39
is that letter geniune?! It is absolutely shocking - both in terms of writing and content. Isn't that Paul character worried about his company's reputation? He is actually advising writers he hires on how to plagiarize - that is absolutely horrid.
roverofrage  2 | 20  
May 08, 2009 | #40
Dear OxbridgeResearchers, First of all my good wishes for your company and its future. There is a good flow of work at 4writers.net and as you can see that each one in this forum have been paid by the company. Although his character in reference of plagiarism advise and his English writing is awful, but overall I think he is creating a good impression. However, I must say you people to discuss this with your experience.




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