Primethesis.com order (they don't pay some writers through 4writers.net)

STUDENTS BEWARE

Don't order from Primethesis.com and any other website owned by Pavel Kucheruk from Ukraine. They operate another website called 4writers.net where they normally channel the orders for writing.They don't pay their writers. Follow the link below and you will get the truth of the matter: https://essayscam.org/forum/wc/writers-payment-delays-1450/2/

Don't Order until they pay us otherwise you will be receiving plagiarized work! I will inform you when to order, that is once we see our money in our accounts.

Students Beware: if you order from any of this family of websites, you'll end up with a writer like Idaho--or someone even worse.

These companies cheat their writers by not paying them and they cheat their customers by hiring bad writers. Know who you're ordering from before you lay out any money.

don't think this gonna work as you plan it to and i also question your research/analytical skills.

if the company doesn't pay you, post the unpaid papers on the Internet and forget about it. if customers stumble upon the works they paid for and make a chargeback, so be it, if not - you wasted your time.

what are you doing there? working for free and hoping for revenge?

I agree that Idaho is obviously a poor writer but do you honesty believe such wannabes can be weeded out? Quite a good number of customers of some of these sites are international students and in fact request writers to make intentional mistakes. In such a case, a writer like you would not suffice. I think writers like Idaho are important and will continue to thrive in spite of opposition from old timers like you.

WHic is fine, as long as these companies/writers advertise themselves as people who make lots of ESL mistakes. Surprisingly, they don't. Instead, they try to pass themselves off as expert writers in the English language, and this make them liars and scammers, and leaves many of their customers feeling cheated.


I think you're trying desperately to justify your pathetic business practices and defend your own lack of English skills. As for me being an "old timer," I've only been in this industry for three years; I'm very good at what I do, which you understandably find threatening, but it has everything to do with knowledge and skill and nothing to do with time spent in the industry.

idaho's sanity is questionable.
what i got from his posts is that he's not being paid by his employer and pays in kind by submitting plagiarized works in attempt to tarnish their reputation, which looks like a hard task as they don't seem to have any.

I can't blame Idaho, he is desperate but i also doubt whether he can get even by plagiarizing. In as much as i defend ESL writers, i feel that myopic unethical site operators are choking the industry with their despicable business practices. It doesn't make sense to defraud writers a few dollars while you need them tomorrow to write and get more money.

you can't blame idaho for providing the unlucky students, who did pay their dues, with plagiarized papers and helping the website owners pocket more money?

i can

"only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and i'm not sure about the former" a. einstein

the place of all esl writers in the writing industry will take a long post to describe, but what is daylight clear "there should be no room for idaho"

They're not doing anything to the industry as a whole. "The industry" is getting by just fine.


These companies don't need the same writers tomorrow, because there is an endless supply of people that are willing to try to cobble together plagiarized essays for $2 a page.

I have had an essaywriters.net account (but i don't write for them) for several years now and i use it to keep tabs on how they are doing business. Around 60% of their orders during the low season pay $ 2.79 and the amount jumps to between $4 to $5 during the high season. Before they settled at $2.79 for the least paid order, i had noted something interesting. If a very simple order paid, say $ 2 or $2.5 per page, it would stay forever on the available orders section but on raising the amount, the order would be quickly taken up. It would appear then that anything below $2.5 doesn't make sense even for an ESL writer.

as you can see from this thread there are people ready to provide the papers at no cost per page and i'm sure it wouldn't be that hard to find some people eager to write for $1 or $0.7 per page

however, the issue of dumping has always been of interest to me.

perhaps, someone sticking to this strategy will enlighten me on this account.
what makes people, capable to produce something solid, keep working at ridiculous rates?

i'm sure the amount they make will not suffice to survive even on cuba.

EssayWriters have good script and does things automatically. I have account with them too, but when I saw offer for $3 per page I started doing my own advertising. You can get more than $3, definitely.

What kind of advertising?

Wow. That changes things completely. If writers are insisting on making at least $3/page, they must produce really high quality work.


The fact that you charge people anything for academic writing in English is horrifying.

did it go any further than manually spamming the boards?

Uh, you are trying to use the clients as a pawn in your salary game? Nobody will listen to you. The clients do not care if you are paid or not. They just want to order a paper they can afford to pay for. You, on the other hand, can opt to stop working for a company that doesn't pay you. They have more writers on staff to replace you. You are not a loss to them and no student will not place an order based solely on your say so. Do not think so highly of yourself because in this business, you are just one of the replaceable pawns.

Why did this person post a threat to the students, whom he did not have any problem with? His issue was with the company so the students should have been left out of the situation. It is not like these writers were not passing off plagiarized work as their own anyway. There was no reason for this at all. Instead, the unpaid writers should have gone on strike. Leaving the work in the server and not touching it till their demands were met. That is how it would have worked in a unionized world. Which the academic writing industry does not function in. There are no unions to protect the writers interests. Therefore sabotaging the company, and letting people know about it, accomplishes nothing. We should still thank this person just the same though. His warning at least told the students that the company is bad and he practically admitted that the work they produce is shabby anyway. No way the students were going to take orders from someone with only basic English writing skills.