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Native English speaking writers - how to find them (to contract out)?



quintuple  1 | -  
Mar 16, 2015 | #1
I'm a freelance writer who is looking to contract out a portion of my workload to a competent native English speaker. However, I have had trouble finding one. Does anyone know where I might be able to find someone who is competent, but on the lower side of price?
Major  35 | 1449 ☆☆  
Mar 16, 2015 | #2
As far as I can tell, all competent native English speakers / writers will probably wish to charge more than you have to offer to them. Approximately how much USD are you willing to pay them (per page / words per page?)

It usually ends up the same way - you'll contract (knowingly or not) with an average ESL / incompetent writer and in time you won't have much work left to contract out. Three/four out of five writers who send you a 'professional' (fake) resume and call themselves 'educated English speakers' are in fact individuals based in foreign countries (usually Kenya, sometimes Pakistan, or India, even though Indian writers tend to be more truthful about their credentials and location).
MeoKhan  10 | 1357   ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Mar 17, 2015 | #3
One thing I usually wonder about is that how a misrepresenting writer can continue to maintain his/her fake identity throughout the contract/transaction that essentially involves certain identity disclosure phases such as money transfer. I am not aware of any e-commerce platforms that do not verify a person's identity via several checks.
firewriter  - | 7   Freelance Writer
Mar 17, 2015 | #4
You can find plenty of writers on the middle agency sites like eLance and the like. Reddit also has HireaWriter sub. You can also vet the writer with a simple Skype conversation. Some of the few clients I've pulled in have asked for a Skype conversation to verify my native English status.

Like Major said, price is a missing key component to answering you question. With that said, I've seen American writers work for as low as $9 per page on some of the company sites. I've reluctantly worked for that little in the past.
MeoKhan  10 | 1357   ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Mar 17, 2015 | #5
Contract WriterI understand your point.

I hope you're earning much more now. I think this per page compensation is a relative thing that involves a number of variables beyond native language. The simplest example may be your assessment of the level of difficulty a writing task carries. 10 writers might suggest 10 different price tags for the same task because, due to relative factors, they see it differently.

Probably, it is these variables/factors that impact any writer to react differently to a task at hand. So, probably, the American writers who you found working for as low as $9 a page may have been influenced by the relativity in this area.

I am convinced that skills in our industry sell for much more when you know how to position yourself and create greater perceived value.

Positioning yourself as a premium writer is much more convenient when you work as a freelance geek than for a company which would never want you to demand an increment only because they found your work pleasantly satisfactory. So they usually want more out of you.
firewriter  - | 7   Freelance Writer
Mar 18, 2015 | #6
Yeah, I'm making more as I learn about the biz. I dig what you are saying MeoKhan, but there has to be a floor for writer's pay that is a bit more than 10 bucks per page. The one company I worked for had it set up so that it was nearly impossible to either not get penalized or get hit up with endless revisions. As far as I could tell, they had no problem retaining writers in this system. But that's a another topic for another time.

I'm still curious about quintuple's "lower side of price" and how he/she mates this with competency.
MeoKhan  10 | 1357   ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Mar 18, 2015 | #7
I got your point. Most probably, hiring writers is not an issue for a company; however, the question is if all they hire is the native English writers from US and elsewhere.
editor75  13 | 1844  
Mar 18, 2015 | #8
Meow, I keep telling you that you will never know what it's like to work for a company-- even one that will rob you-- until you boost your English enough to pass the grammar test. How would you like it if I called your country "the Pakistan?" At least get the article right!
firewriter  - | 7   Freelance Writer
Mar 19, 2015 | #9
the question is if all they hire is the native English writers from US and elsewhere.

Nope. The question is about OP's question.
MeoKhan  10 | 1357   ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Mar 20, 2015 | #10
At least get the article right!

Okay.
Mydnite  - | 14   Freelance Writer
Mar 25, 2015 | #11
Ask to Skype, or talk to them on the telephone.
Nathansmith  - | 7  
Mar 27, 2015 | #12
Hi,

You can find most of the writers from freelancer & find out some groups "essay freelance writers" in Facebook so that u can talk to them directly.

hope this helps you...

BTW r u looking for academic writer or a generic one..?

Cheers.
Just Al  - | 2  
Apr 30, 2015 | #13
Hi, I need a help with my paper. Does anyone interested in taking the order? I have limited ime and can't find reliable writter. Please send me link or email if someone wants to accept the order. Thanks in advance...
KenyanWriter  - | 14   Freelance Writer
May 14, 2015 | #14
I have never understood why clients are so obsessed with 'native writers'. It is true that some writers, especially Asian writers, write very poor papers. However, I believe that what matters most is the quality of your writing. Kenya, for example, is a former British colony where English is an official language and is taught right from kindergarten. For that reason, majority of Kenyan writers write exceptional papers. Sometimes, a few errors may arise. However, what more does a client need than getting a writer who can give him/her an A-rated paper? This 'Kenya, sometimes Pakistan, or India' bashing is more of native English writers trying to remain competitive than a question of quality.
writers2beware  29 | 1712 ☆☆  
May 14, 2015 | #15
Sometimes, a few errors may arise.

LOL!
KenyanWriter  - | 14   Freelance Writer
May 14, 2015 | #16
Ha, another native. Dude, we from 'Kenya, sometimes Pakistan, or India' and here to stay[sorry] write!!
writers2beware  29 | 1712 ☆☆  
May 14, 2015 | #17
Um, your grammar and punctuation are terrible. That's why you (and others like you) can't get a "real" job.
KenyanWriter  - | 14   Freelance Writer
May 14, 2015 | #18
Can't see the joke huh? Yes, you claim to be way better but we in the same business-competing!!! Let that sink into your skull- native doesn't get you jobs. We're all selling our skills to clients, the smartest of all wins. That said, kindly allow me to attend to my chain of clients, native!

N about the grammar and punctuation, there's a reward system for that? Kindly enlighten me.
writers2beware  29 | 1712 ☆☆  
May 15, 2015 | #19
Can't see the joke huh?

I could buy your entire family with my monthly interest.
KenyanWriter  - | 14   Freelance Writer
May 15, 2015 | #20
LOL! You're now losing it native. I run some of those sites you seem to hate, and we milking clients dry. Keep preaching your native gospel. As long as I keep getting $50+ per page clients- no givin' a **** boy. Pesa mkononi (money in my hands).

BTW, they keep coming back. Seems likes native English is the least of their concerns. Like (Typo). Lest you capitalize on that native.
writers2beware  29 | 1712 ☆☆  
May 15, 2015 | #21
Again, I could buy your entire family with my monthly interest.
KenyanWriter  - | 14   Freelance Writer
May 15, 2015 | #22
Sad and stupid of you to stoop that low. Monkey-boy? That's inspirational.
Major  35 | 1449 ☆☆  
May 15, 2015 | #23
"milking clients dry" - it's not very inspiring to your clients, is it ;)
KenyanWriter  - | 14   Freelance Writer
May 15, 2015 | #24
Haha, another one. It hurts you, doesn't it? Too bad they keep coming back.
Major  35 | 1449 ☆☆  
May 15, 2015 | #25
Do I understand it correctly - students pay you 50 USD per page and they come back for more? The only reason they may come for more is because you blackmail them ;).
KenyanWriter  - | 14   Freelance Writer
May 15, 2015 | #26
Christ!! Blackmail?? Now that you responded to my comment, did I blackmail you? Come up with something more convincing.
Major  35 | 1449 ☆☆  
May 15, 2015 | #27
did I blackmail you

If you did I'd call you a racist...
KenyanWriter  - | 14   Freelance Writer
May 15, 2015 | #28
What's your argument? I didn't blackmail you, neither do I blackmail my clients. Willing buyer, willing seller, is the rule. BTW, at least we've all seen the racist 'monkey-boy' thing.

BTW, if $50 seems too much...I doubt your abilities.
Major  35 | 1449 ☆☆  
May 15, 2015 | #29
In your other post you wrote that some freelance writing company pays you peanuts (perhaps it could be $3-$6 per page). In this thread you claim other clients pay you $50 per page. So you're volunteering in the other writing services? Why don't you keep writing exclusively for students who pay you $50 per page and keep coming back.
KenyanWriter  - | 14   Freelance Writer
May 15, 2015 | #30
Haha, the fact that you're doing some research on me suggests that... That aside. I used to work for freelancercareers. At one time, they swindled me. However, I stopped referring to it as 'swindle'. They enlightened me. That's why I do $50 per page. Did that answer you? Keep working under those companies if you like- I chose to move on.
Major  35 | 1449 ☆☆  
May 15, 2015 | #31
... you don't know what real research work is...

They enlightened me.

How did they enlighten you? My guess is that you fabricated a resume, claim you have graduated from Harvard, and call yourself 'Professor Stephen Reynolds Jr.' (or use a similar, serious-sounding name).
KenyanWriter  - | 14   Freelance Writer
May 16, 2015 | #32
Ignorant bigot. What name could be more serious than mine? I don't have to fake my ID; just a few samples and I get hired. Like I said, being a native English writer is not an assurance. BTW, did you just say Harvard? There are thousands of quality universities around the world- bigots want us to believe in Harvard's superiority.
writers2beware  29 | 1712 ☆☆  
May 16, 2015 | #33
not an assurance

What? English, please.
KenyanWriter  - | 14   Freelance Writer
May 17, 2015 | #34
English, please.

LOL! what should it be? Do some homeworknative. It is very likely that, just like me, you are an ESL- I'm better than you though. Let's put this to a stop lest you further expose your ignorance. It's very clear that you have no ability to build an argument.
flukes_cradle  2 | 28   Freelance Writer
May 17, 2015 | #35
In fairness to KenyanWriter, despite his apparent trolling, when I was teaching if one of my ESL students handed in an essay that read like it was written by a native English speaker, I'd be really suspicious. Not sure what it's like in the US, but the UK has a huge foreign student population, so if an ESL or EFL graduate/PhD has the knowledge, I would think them a better match for those students who are too bone idle or dim to write their own papers.
writers2beware  29 | 1712 ☆☆  
May 17, 2015 | #36
LOL! what should it be?

"not assurance" or "not assured" (depending on the situation)

I'm better than you though.

LOL! You're missing a comma.
Masum2305  - | 6   Student
Jun 07, 2015 | #37
I can't give you the assurance of law price. But you can find the native English speaker.
Durak  - | 3   Observer
Oct 11, 2016 | #38
Again, I could buy your entire family with my monthly interest

Monthly interest pay how much, 0,15%? Then you have couple hundred dollars. What job you are hired now since obviously monthly interest is close to zero.
writers2beware  29 | 1712 ☆☆  
Oct 11, 2016 | #39
If you weren't so stupid, you'd realize that the point of my post is more about the value of the idiot's family (and yours).
essaywriting  - | 22     Freelance Writer
Jan 12, 2017 | #40
This is the best place to recruit native speaking writers, because it seems that they're here in big number. However, they could be expensive, and most of the time no one wants to pay them that kind of money when there are companies that provide the same service for $5 and $8. And to make things worse wherever you go there is an overflow of writers that tells you essay writing business has become too crowded and be ready to offer your service for $4 if you can beat the bidding. Or if you find work with some of the companies that don't require bidding and make $4+ on the busy season, don't be surprised if they offer $2 for the off season. I think this small industry had been around for a while and has attracted a lot of people, the reason why there might not be enough work to go around.




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