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The Perfect Definition for a Pro-Academic Writer



Heremeout  7 | 175   Freelance Writer
Feb 09, 2012 | #1
Unless he or she has exhibited, beyond reasonable doubts, the following professional traits,an individual is not certified as a Professional academic writer. A pro-academic writer is:

-A rigorously trained academic scholar with at least a degree or diploma in specific field of study.
-A vastly experienced master of law and ethics in the writing profession i.e. understands legal implications of plagiarism and copyright infringement
-An expert in using all sorts of citation styles and formarts
-An expert in conducting research
-Highly proficient in the written and spoken English
-Self-driven and independent minded
-Above average time management skills

Any persons that certify this accreditation criterion is a potential candidate for the profession of academic writing. For the purpose of making this definition more logical and by all means tolerable in the academic writing fraternity, dissenting but very constructive opinions are welcome.
queen sheba  53 | 648 ☆☆   Observer
Feb 09, 2012 | #2
The Perfect Definition for a Pro-Academic Writer

There is nothing like a 'Pro-Acdemic Writer'. There are two types of writers, a) Honest and qualified writers who DO NOT engage in the fraudulent business of helping students cheat the universities and b) dishonest and (dis)qualified writers who purposefully engage in helping students defeat the whole essence of education.

-A rigorously trained academic scholar with at least a degree or diploma in specific field of study.
-A vastly experienced master of law and ethics in the writing profession i.e. understands legal implications of plagiarism and copyright infringement...WHO DOESN'T HELP STUDENTS CHEAT THE SYSTEM
-An expert in using all sorts of citation styles and formarts...WHO DOESN'T HELP STUDENTS CHEAT THE SYSTEM
-An expert in conducting research...WHO DOESN'T HELP STUDENTS CHEAT THE SYSTEM
-Highly proficient in the written and spoken English...WHO DOESN'T HELP STUDENTS CHEAT THE SYSTEM
-Self-driven and independent minded...WHO DOESN'T HELP STUDENTS CHEAT THE SYSTEM
-Above average time management skills...WHO DOESN'T HELP STUDENTS CHEAT THE SYSTEM

Any persons that certify this accreditation criterion is a potential candidate for the profession of academic writing. For the purpose of making this definition more logical and by all means tolerable in the academic writing fraternity, dissenting but very constructive opinions are welcome.

Having defeated your argument from the onset, i don't need to engage in further discussions pertaining to definition of a pro academic writer
OP Heremeout  7 | 175   Freelance Writer
Feb 09, 2012 | #3
There is nothing like a 'Pro-Acdemic Writer'.

First and foremost, begin by learning how to use quotation marks correctly. Secondly, I would like to bring it to your attention that whether you hate it or otherwise, academic writing has become a profession, and very learned people are earning a living out of it. Please change your mindset about this fact.Thirdly,I do not see any aspect of "cheating the system" if the system can no longer function properly without academic writers.You are badly lagging behind serious facts, dear Queen.Lastly,because I already knew there was no such thing as "pro-academic writer," I just came up with the idea, how about that?
queen sheba  53 | 648 ☆☆   Observer
Feb 09, 2012 | #4
Thank you, Shakespeare wannabe

academic writing has become a profession, and very learned people are earning a living out of it.

It doesn't matter whether it has become a 'profession' or not; the fact is- it is wrong HELP students cheat through the universities. 'Very learned people' as you put it are up there in the corporate ladder, not roaming writing sites scavenging for desperate and ill intentioned students.

Thirdly,I do not see any aspect of "cheating the system" if the system can no longer function properly without academic writers.

No. Universities can function PERFECTLY well without students who shouldn't be in the university in the first place. If you cannot produce a decent essay, you have no business being at the university.

i am not lagging behind anything. it is you and co. who cannot see the intellectual damage you inflict

Lastly,because I already knew there was no such thing as "pro-academic writer," I just came up with the idea, how about that?

You sound corny.
OP Heremeout  7 | 175   Freelance Writer
Feb 09, 2012 | #5
It doesn't matter whether it has become a 'profession' or not

It does queen,it does matter a lot to the writing companies.

'Very learned people' as you put it are up there in the corporate ladder

What you do not understand is the fact that some of those "very learned people," had their PhD theses written by professional academic writers. It is not wrong or immoral for a student to seek help from the experts.This does not, in any way, make them dunderheads or unworthy to be in the institution of higher learning. Moreover,students have varied genuine reasons for seeking help in writing. Here are a few of them:

-Some are very bright but with a major weakness in English
-Some are extremely preoccupied in other academic related tasks and have no sufficient time to beat certain crucial deadlines
-Some just need the input of a second or third party to help accomplish their academic projects based on diverse ideas
-Some simply need assistance with research work
-Some seek help because of very logical personal issues i.e. sickness

What matters is that students complete their coursework, graduate, land themselves great jobs, and be able to deliver quality.They know pretty well what they are doing, aren't they?
pheelyks  
Feb 09, 2012 | #6
It's like watching monkeys through feces at each other...
amnateeb  2 | 320   Freelance Writer
Feb 09, 2012 | #7
What happened pheeleaks? Is everything OK?

through

throw
pheelyks  
Feb 09, 2012 | #8
You're right. That was a very silly mistake. It only took you about two months to catch me in a slip=up, too. You must be very proud.
queen sheba  53 | 648 ☆☆   Observer
Feb 09, 2012 | #9
It's like watching monkeys through feces at each other...

Retard, you have began it again.......
Syphilis before you try to comment ABOUT anything, can you refund all monies you have obtained from students through pretending you'd deliver good papers only to deliver garbage.
pheelyks  
Feb 09, 2012 | #10
Queenie, before you comment about anything, do you feel like being honest about your involvement in the industry?
WritersBeware  
Feb 09, 2012 | #11
Retard, you have began it again.......

Um, you may want to avoid remedial mistakes when referring to someone else as a "retard."
amnateeb  2 | 320   Freelance Writer
Feb 10, 2012 | #12
You're right. That was a very silly mistake. It only took you about two months to catch me in a slip=up, too. You must be very proud.

Finally, you admitted I was right. Btw, I have pointed out mistakes in your writing before, but you have been so ignorant that you do not accept this. I am not proud, but sorry that you have earned your so-called degree in English and still you are confused in using confusing words. I think you scammed your proofreader/editor by not paying him/her for pointing out and correcting mistakes in your posts. :D
OP Heremeout  7 | 175   Freelance Writer
Feb 10, 2012 | #13
Pheelyks, why have you turned our healthy conversation into an insults forum !?
pheelyks  
Feb 10, 2012 | #14
Finally, you admitted I was right

Finally, you said something that was right.

I have pointed out mistakes in your writing before

Saying, "your writing sucks" isn't pointing out mistakes.
queen sheba  53 | 648 ☆☆   Observer
Feb 10, 2012 | #15
Um, you may want to avoid remedial mistakes when referring to someone else as a "retard."

WritersBware: expectedly you have come to the aid of your subservient flunkey.
Does he reward you in any way?..............perhaps some ****** favours?
WritersBeware  
Feb 10, 2012 | #16
Do you really think that anyone believes your silly claim that you are a professor?
LynnFell85  1 | 49   Observer
Feb 10, 2012 | #17
Queenie, before you comment about anything, do you feel like being honest about your involvement in the industry?

The resident psychopath isn't, so why should queen sheba?
pheelyks  
Feb 10, 2012 | #18
I was responding directly to a question queenie asked of me. Before grasping at excuses to start in with WB, why not try doing a bit of reading for context?
queen sheba  53 | 648 ☆☆   Observer
Feb 10, 2012 | #19
Do you really think that anyone believes your silly claim that you are a professor?

look, i have no problem addressing issues in a civilised manner AND indeed i was very polite when i first joined this forum.
However, i have no problems resorting to dirty language if that is what you can understand.
I don't need to convince anyone i am a senior lecturer (not professor) . In fact lets put it this way: i am a high school dropout
WritersBeware  
Feb 10, 2012 | #20
i was very polite when i first joined this forum

That's a load of garbage. You joined on Januray 29, 2012, at 10:37 AM. Your FIRST POST was a an unsolicited, unprovoked, long-winded, dishonest, deceptive, lie-infested, already-defeated attack against me, you ignorant piece of trash.

I don't need to convince anyone i am a senior lecturer (not professor)

You can't even keep your own lies straight:

I am an Ethiopian lecturer, 31 and teaching economics at a private university in Nairobi. I also teach two other UK universities via teleconferencing.

They allow "lecturers" like you-below the level of assistant professors-to teach classes at private universities? I sure as hell hope that the students are paying JC rates, at best.
OP Heremeout  7 | 175   Freelance Writer
Feb 11, 2012 | #21
WB please forgive her, she didn't know what she was talking about. I am ashamed to be associated with Queen. In Kenya, where I hail from (unfortunately), we do not accommodate such low profiled lecturers, talk less of a senior one or a professor.
amnateeb  2 | 320   Freelance Writer
Feb 11, 2012 | #22
Saying, "your writing sucks" isn't pointing out mistakes.

How do you write, if you cannot read? You may go through the posts again. I pointed out mistakes with your "conditional sentence" and another sentence in which you were referring to "a" writer by calling him/her "they".

Even if this were true, he's still one up on you.

from How to initiate the process of being an essay writer?

You don't need to tell a good writer how to do their job, either.

The writer needs a dictionary, and should shy away from using words they don't really know.

from I wrote a paper for a client. How to get paid?

These are grammatical mistakes by a writer having degree in English!

The solution for "they" can be:

You could try "he or she."

from WRITERS PLEASE BEWARE OF ALERTPAY
pheelyks  
Feb 11, 2012 | #23
These are grammatical mistakes by a writer having degree in English!

No, they aren't. The first case isn't incorrect at all, and the second is a matter of changing usage; while "they" is not considered acceptable as a gender-neutral pronoun by textbooks and some academics, this usage is growing in popularity and in justification. Using it when referring to a specific, identified individual in the sentence I corrected is silly, though.

Once again, making invalid claims isn't the same thing as pointing out actual mistakes.
amnateeb  2 | 320   Freelance Writer
Feb 11, 2012 | #24
You are wrong, illiterate writer.
WritersBeware  
Feb 11, 2012 | #25
NEWSFLASH: "Were" is correct, you fu**-n idiot, because he is referring to a possible/hypothetical event, not one that actually occurred.
amnateeb  2 | 320   Freelance Writer
Feb 11, 2012 | #26
Earth to idiotic cretins. If "were" was correct, the next sentence should have been in past tense. For instance, "if that were correct, I would be still one up on him", because he was referring to a situation in past. The result could be present, if he was drawing a conclusion with his statement.

How can it be that you haven't studied grammar? "Uneducated buffoon", WildBoar! Now go fu*- off.

And regarding the use of "they", "the one" should be used in the sentence, if not "he/she".
WritersBeware  
Feb 11, 2012 | #27
Pro AcademicLMAO x3!

1. You made the exact same mistake AGAIN by using "was." You are referring to a HYPOTHETICAL situation, you uneducated nitwit.

2. In a subjunctive situation, the secondary sentence has no bearing whatsoever on the first sentence.

3. The "would be still one up on him" text in your "example" follow-up sentence is NOT past tense.

However, your use of "would" is proper because you are referring to a hypothetical event that is attached to the subjunctive "were."

Do yourself a favor by studying the subjunctive.

This, my friends, is why uneducated, unqualified, ESL writers continue to damage the research industry.
amnateeb  2 | 320   Freelance Writer
Feb 11, 2012 | #28
You made the exact same mistake AGAIN by using "was." You are referring to a HYPOTHETICAL situation, you uneducated nitwit.

"Was" can also be used, and if you can understand, please consider the use of "should have been".

I know what subjunctive mood is.

your use of "would" is proper because you are referring to a hypothetical event that is attached to the subjunctive "were."

This is what I wanted to highlight. This industry needs proper use of English grammar, certainly not the one your goat, pheeleaks uses.

This, my friends, is why uneducated, unqualified, ESL writers continue to damage the research industry.

Tell this to your goat pheeleaks by replacing "ESL writers" by "pheeleaks".
WritersBeware  
Feb 11, 2012 | #29
"Was" can also be used

You could use "was," "flapjack," or "banjo"-they'd all be wrong.
amnateeb  2 | 320   Freelance Writer
Feb 12, 2012 | #30
You could use "was," "flapjack," or "banjo"-they'd all be wrong.

"Note: the verb to be can be specific in the if clause.
If I were rich, I wouldn't work. If he were younger, he would marry her.
(But was is also possible: If I was rich, I wouldn't work. If he was younger, he would marry her.)
But: If I were you, I wouldn't do it. (In this expression, were is much more usual than was.)
"
from: e-grammar.org/if-clauses/

I really wish you could attend grammar classes. Two "uneducated buffoons", WildBoar and pheeleaks!
If you don't agree, just go to hell, you idiots!
pheelyks  
Feb 12, 2012 | #31
Your source says I was correct to use "were." So basically, I was right and you were wrong. Thanks for playing.
amnateeb  2 | 320   Freelance Writer
Feb 12, 2012 | #32
You are an idiot. Really. You can't understand logical arguments, and I can't help it! Lol!
pheelyks  
Feb 12, 2012 | #33
You can't understand logical arguments

You haven't made one yet.

Instead of continuing to mock me when anyone reading this can clearly see you're a moron, do you want to take a second to explain how you think you're being logical here?
amnateeb  2 | 320   Freelance Writer
Feb 12, 2012 | #34
You haven't made one yet.

You haven't got any.

do you want to take a second to explain how you think you're being logical here?

I have far better things to do than to engage in a debate with an illiterate monkey. Lol!
pheelyks  
Feb 12, 2012 | #35
I have far better things to do than to engage in a debate

Basically, you know you're beaten, but you're just going to pretend you're not.

A quick recap for anyone who's interested:

-I began a sentence, "Even if that were true..."
-amadweeb insisted "were" was incorrect and should have been "was"
-I ask amadweeb to cite a source backing up his claim
-amadweeb posts a source quite clearly saying "were" is preferred in many cases but that either word is correct
-amadweeb pretends he proved his point when in fact his own source defeats his argument
-I am left astounded by the willful ignorance of this assh*le
amnateeb  2 | 320   Freelance Writer
Feb 12, 2012 | #36
you're beaten

You are wrong, again.

amadweeb insisted "were" was incorrect and should have been "was"

Wrong, you illiterate monkey. Go read the posts again. LMAO!
I bet you will not understand the topic even if you read the posts hundred times. Let WildBoar herd you! Hahahahahaha

I am making it easy for you.

"if that were correct, I would be still one up on him"

your use of "would" is proper because you are referring to a hypothetical event that is attached to the subjunctive "were."

Illiterate monkey, pheeleaks! I wish you were a human! LMAO!
pheelyks  
Feb 12, 2012 | #37
If you're still hung up on the non-existent past tense issue, your own source yet again demonstrates your idiocy. Thinking that the clause, "I would be still one up on him:" is correct reaffirms this once more.

"Were" is not past tense in context, just as "was" would not be past tense. You're an idiot. All of these are simple facts verified by your own posts.
amnateeb  2 | 320   Freelance Writer
Feb 12, 2012 | #38
You did not use "would be" in your original post, cretin.
Would is the past tense of will, idiots! LMAO!
And this conditional sentence had been used for referring to a situation in past!
What is verified here is that you two, WildBoar and pheeLeaks are "uneducated buffoons" of this forum! Period

I can't continue my English lectures for you two. I would charge you cretins for that service from now onward. If you don't pay, you two will remain ignorant fools. LMAO!
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
Apr 01, 2021 | #39
Any persons that certify this accreditation criterion is a potential candidate for the profession of academic writing.

Don't over-complicate things. An academic writer is somebody who has graduated from (at least) college and can write proficiently in English ( UK or US). They are writers who know how to do research and understand that research for the benefit of the student. It isn't rocket science. You cannot even go to school for specific academic writing training as a profession because, it is something you should have been doing your whole academic life, thus preparing you for this occupation upon your graduation from any college course.
noted  10 | 2083 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Jun 16, 2022 | #40
Professional academic writer

The last time I checked, there was no certification giving body for this occupation. There are no training materials provided nor courses we can take to prove we are trained academic writers. Our own claim of expertise will rely on our academic background and the fact that we had to write hundreds of papers during our time as college/masteral students. That is the only training we were provided if one thinks about it in hindsight. Real time application of writing and research skills.

It is improper to imply that academic writers need to have specific skills to be "certified" because these are skills that are developed during your time as a student. The only certification we have is our college degree. Do not imply that actual training is involved in this job because that is not true.
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