Ukrainian writer who is really intelligent is not a bad choice

Hi guys!

I am one of those Ukrainian writers from the writing companies you talk about.

Is company location and writer nationality is really important for you when you make an order?

I know that there are plenty of incompetent writers in such companies (because companies do not usually have strict criteria to hire the new writer. The procedure of determining if writer is competent can be a 2-pages essay in English in general topic. Thus, how can they appreciate writer's professional skills? And then, those writers are allowed to write in different fields, very unrelated. Are they really cyborgs? =) In addition, some companies use 3 MC questions of the school-level of difficulty in order to test the new writer. Great, isn't it?) However, it is not my aim for this message to tell about the companies. If you are interested in the information about their working and deception, feel free to contact me. I will tell you many interesting things, I guess.

Anyway, the aim of this message was to explain that some of the writers are really good and competent. It is a rare thing for such companies, however we still exist.

I am one of such writers that really care for the client and I have lots of positive feedbacks. I think that nationality of the writer does not reflect his skills in a particular field. Nowadays, person with high level of IQ and intelligence can use Internet to find the proper information. In addition, we still have perfect theoretical education. Thus, I think that Ukrainian writer who is really intelligent is not a bad choice =)

Of course, sometimes the quality of our works can fail to be the best. To tell you the truth, it is because of the companies. Do you know how much we get per page? One third or even one fifth from the price you pay for. It is usually about 4-8 dollars per page. Do you think we wish to do our best for such small compensation? English-speaking writers simply don't work for such low price because it is not money at all in their countries.

So, if I got some higher compensation I would provide better quality and if I could contact with the customer directly, not via manager, I would also be more productive. Working for the company makes me care only about the money I get. However, if I could work for the customer directly, I would care for the quality of work and would be praised by higher compensation.

Therefore, I have an idea of creating a web-site where you would be able to work with several highly-competent writers directly. Without any managers and operators. But still, we would be Ukrainian writers. However, we would care about the quality. What do you think about it? Is nationality is really important?

No, you're not. Your writing is terrible.

Could you be more specific, please?

No problem, since you asked:


This isn't a sentence or a question that makes sense.

.. criteria to hire the new writer. The procedure of determining if writer is competent can be a 2-pages essay in English in general topic.[/b] Thus, how can they appreciate writer's professional skills? ..However, it is not my aim for this message to tell about the companies. If you are interested in the information about their working and deception, feel free to contact me. I will tell you many interesting things, I guess.

Anyway, the aim of this message was to explain that some of the writers ...

I am one of such writers that really care for the client and I have lots of positive feedbacks. Nowadays, person with high level of IQ and intelligence can use Internet to find the proper information. In addition, we still have perfect theoretical education. Thus, I think that Ukrainian writer who is really intelligent is not a bad choice =)

Of course, sometimes the quality of our works can fail to be the best. One third or even one fifth from the price you pay for. It is usually about 4-8 dollars per page. English-speaking writers simply don't work for such low price because it is not money at all in their countries.

So, if I got some higher compensation I would provide better quality and if I could contact with the customer directly, not via manager..... I would care for the quality of work and would be praised by higher compensation.

Therefore, I have an idea of creating a web-site where you would be able to work with several highly-competent writers directly.

Everything I bolded is either (1) the wrong choice (or use of a) word instead of the right word (like "appreciate" instead of "judge" or "evaluate") that only an ESL writer would think were synonyms, (2) missing articles, unnecessary articles, and wrong prepositions that are always obvious indications of ESL writing, (3) wrong tense, (4) singular instead of plural and vice-versa, (5) just extremely awkward idiomatic phrasing that's also an obvious sign of ESL writing, or (6) plain old amateurish mistakes that have nothing to do with being ESL like not knowing it's website and not "web-site."

As is the case with most ESL writers who post here thinking that they're demonstrating how well they write in English, what you've succeeded in demonstrating is that you speak English fairly well but your English isn't even close to good enough to offering your writing services to anybody who is not also ESL. Aside from the obvious language problems, you don't write very well, at least not any better than the average high school student, when it comes to things like idea organization and argument.

This is not meant as an insult, but you did ask for specifics about why someone might consider your writing to be much worse than you seem to think it is.

How many foreign languages you know (besides jewish)? Nada. You are imbecile in today global work force.

A. "Jewish" is a religion and not a language; and religion is totally irrelevant to the discussion, except to racists and bigots.

B. Unlike you, I know my limitations and only offer my services in languages I know fluently enough to write without obvious mistakes in every sentence I write.

C. I believe what you're trying to say is "You are an imbecile in today's global work force." You should worry less about me and more about making sure that you can actually communicate clearly in any language in which you offer to write professionally.

You would not survive even 4hrs in Ukraine with your poor life skill.

Well guys, thank you for all your comments.

However, my actual aim was to find out the reason, why English-speaking and other clients don't want to deal with Ukrainian companies and writers.

Is it the fact that they are just afraid of bad language? Or maybe they are not sure about general education level in Ukraine and consider it a third world country?

If I'm a native-English-speaking student, and I get a paper full of errors than can ONLY have been committed by an ESL speaker, then what good is it to me as a model essay? I'd get more value by printing it out and making paper airplanes.

Furthermore, it's not just the writing, but also the reading. If the writer's English level is not up to par, then how can I be sure that the individual is fully understanding the journal articles that form the basis of the research? Some of the journal writing I've seen lately makes me want to stick a butterknife in my eye. How is an ESL writer going to comprehend it?

I'm just a writer, not an industry expert or investigator. Based purely on what I've read on this forum, it seems that there are so many fraudulent essay companies from your area that many people now consider your location a red flag. There are probably legitimate business enterprises in Nigeria that encounter the exact same problem for the same reason.


Simply put, nobody who speaks English as a native language would ever want to pay hard-earned money (even their parents') for writing that sounds nothing like it was written by any native speaker. It has absolutely nothing to do with your education and you may be able to write very well in your native language. In my experience (mostly on this forum), ESL writers who keep bringing up the topic of "education quality" are just denying the obvious and trying to deflect the issue about being unable to produce writing in good enough English to satisfy non-ESL clients. When you write English only as well as you've demonstrated, the issue is not your education or your nationality. You just don't write well enough in English to satisfy any American or British customer, regardless of how honest or well educated you may be.

Dont complicate yourself again. You have NO RESEARCH skill.

From your favorite source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literacy_in_the_United_States:

Yes. These people are called "customers."

If not then you belong to stats coz you a failed writer. Now take time to "integrate easily identifiable pieces of information." If you want more time ask first.

Oh yeah? You ask Bubba Tolstoy if I'm a "failed writer." For your information, I just made premium writer status and am making significantly more than his regular writers. How's that for failure?

Behave coz your rate drop to $0.20 per page.

Who would want to be in Ukraine for that long, anyway?

As example, Snowden, failed us citizen.

Stu's the only one in the industry that pays his writers less than me


You see Writer_456, hard work pays off

99Essays is an epic failure, just like you are. No wonder you stick together in that pathetic little company of yours. A good writer works independently, if you need a company to get paid as a slave you are a ****** writer to begin with.

Your debilitating psychosis is quite evident; a while ago, you claimed that your "husband" would make a business trip to Ukraine; does that make 'him' an idiot for wanting to spend time in that country?

But I guess you were being piloted- as usual- by your hallucinatory imaginations. I doubt there is any man who'd want to spend his life with you; unless of course he is a worse nutcase than you.

How is your partner-in-crime, WRT, doing these days? Getting lonely, huh?
And pheelyks? is he still snitching students?
You are a nasty dog indeed.

He get work as janitor in theater.

Note the key words, "that long," .

Pretty sure it was Manila.

You must have been writing essays for ESL students who do not know any better. Considering the serious grammatical flaws of your posting, I find it hard to believe that an English language native speaker would hire you as an academic writer. Any work that you did for the student would automatically be flagged by the professor because your grammar is so atrocious, you should go back to learning the basic rules of the English language. That is, before you try to write anything else. That is why the location of the writer and the intelligence of the writer, in terms of English grammar skills, are of the utmost importance in an academic writer. From the way that you composed your post, I do not doubt that your writing skills would be extremely helpful to a fellow ESL student. It is not the type of grammar that would help an ENL student garner the best possible grade for his essay or research paper. The truth hurts I know, but at least I am sure you are doing a helpful job for the ESL students who need it the most.

Give me a break! The dollar conversion to whatever currency it is your country uses more than makes up for the "low" cost per page. The reason that these companies hire non-native English speaking writers from those poor countries is simple. They'll work for pennies and cents because the conversion means they live decently or like a king in their own countries. Don't try to convince me otherwise. I know that the pay you get is high in your country because one of the writers who works for me, but isn't Ukrainian, is now able to make monthly payments on a brand new car, just by working for me. I think I am paying him too much per page. Oh, he also turns in high quality work because the amount I pay him allows him to live affluently enough within his social circle. So no, I don't believe that you are paid less. You are paid sufficiently based on your country's inflation and dollar conversion rate.

You are not a person who should be working as an academic writer. Why? Think about it, you are in the business of "helping" students who "pay" for your services. If you are not satisfied with the salary then don't accept the order, don't take the order off the server, and don't turn in shoddy work! Stop working for the company and try to find one that will satisfy your financial needs, good luck with that. Academic writing is not a get-rich quick scheme. You actually have to turn in good work, regardless of the country you are from and how much you are paid for the service.

By the way, you are not an intelligent writer and you are definitely going to be the worst choice for any student who is scammed into hiring you.

This is quite an interesting take on the unequal payment rates for native versus non-native writers. I personally have never had issues being paid less than my native counterparts, considering that there are limitations that I fully agree are part of the entire industry because of my different upbringing. Regardless of it being called as being paid in pennies, I have never had full issues when it comes to payment because the conversion translates well even in comparison to all genuine research jobs I held before entering the industry.

Thinking about it, the question posed makes sense. Does the location and nationality of the writer really matter when a student is placing an order? If one were to consider that there are thousands of foreign students educated both in the USA and UK who return to their home country, who or what is to stop them from kick-starting a career in academic writing? After all, they were foreign educated for the last part of their educational requirements. The only answer I could come up with is, it would not matter so much if the writers were foreign educated or, at least able to provide a decent research paper written in coherent English. Since the overseas educated students would most likely end up in a professional career instead of becoming academic writers, then the location and nationality of the student does become a consideration when hiring a writer. Why hire someone who is not located in the US or Europe and who will most likely not be able to complete the paper without countless revisions (and still not be able to deliver what is required)? It is for these very reasons that the companies and writers try to mask their actual location and names.