Crab mentality (some writers try to make customers think they are the only choice)

I finally found decent employment. I now work for a few sites and in one of them writers are allowed to make bids on orders and customers accept the best bid. I found out that some of the writers who bid on projects there try to convince customers that they are the only choice.

"Monsta2005" is an incompetent fool with horrible writing skills.

Graduated with distinction? I sincerely doubt that.
The only person to achieve a distinction in his university? My foot ...
Monsta's remark on other writers - a completely unethical `choose me or you'll fail' fear tactic.

Thanks mods! Hi Manunulat!

Kamusta (Filipino for "How are you")? I get your point, since were both Filipinos.

For my non-Filipino friends, the term "crab mentality" was derived from an old Filipino folktale. In that folktale, the author describes a basket full of crabs that isn't covered. When a child asks the owner of the basket why the crabs didn't escape even if the basket was uncovered, the owner of the basket tells the child that "whenever one crab tries to make it to the top, the others pull it down"; hence, no crab ever makes it to the top.

This term, "crab mentality", has, since, been used by Filipinos to describe people who are envious of those who succeed in life and try to pull them down. Manunulat (which is also the Filipino word for "writer") was probably describing the attitude of Monsta2005, as he tried to bring others down so that he could end up getting hired instead of his competitors.

I'm pretty sure a lot of you already know this; but for those of you who don't, I hope my explanation was appropriate.

Melissa's design mode hysteria is still in full force.
Check out this PR article, posted just one week ago, before she removes it:

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Besides being copied from a masterpapers' article (she substituted priorityessays for masterpapers), just take a look at the very bottom - the contact info :)

While at it, check this: thanksgoogle.com/priority. Again, design mode and I am a hacker for having accessed a live site :)

end crabism.

grab endism.

AsianWriter

Thanks for sharing, I didn't know that; I will use it for sure.

You're most welcome, my Ukrainian friend!

Alex20 - is you 'use it for sure' then the only people who will know what you mean and lady boys, chop suey noodle chefs, and banana boys like AsianWriter. Do you really want to sound like you're a chinaman? Tsss. If so, why not go all the way and get your eyes done then?

Wrong again. The Chinese know nothing about this. It's a Filipino folktale. Why do you hate the Chinese so much? They're probably the only nationality that isn't attacking you. I'd understand it if you simply attacked my nationality, since I am the one arguing with you; but to attack the Chinese? I thought you were better than that. Tsk, tsk, tsk...

Add Chinese people to the list!

Y'know Rusty... I think this word has potential.

OxbridgeExpert

RE NI

WO YONG KUAI ZI ZAI NI DE PI GU

props out to Ai Xian Ye

I am monsta2005 the referred to in this post-I feel some of the comments said about me are highly unfair and inappropriate within this thread. There are several points I would like to make.

1) Due to an error made by the site other writers could see the private message between me the customer. Hence why it has been posted in this thread. Without sounding rude, I do not know why people are interferring in my business. You do not see me point out the fact that several writers within the site have DO EXACTLY what I claim.

2) I do not disclaim or discredit any partciuliar writer within my private message to the customer with regards to poor quality and plagarism-whilst I do know who they are, I was sincerley just trying to warn the customer to be careful.

3) As one can see from my feedback, I am one of the top writers within the site. Furthermore, despite being a writer on the site for a sustained period I have only completed a limited number of projects; if I truly wanted to adopt a poor and unethical approach to gaining more projects, surely it is common sense that I would have received more work through the site. Money is not everything, not to me anyway.

4) Why people are saying im a poor quality writer or lying about my qualifications is beyond me- my feedback speaks for itself and I am happy to prove all claims I have made about my qualifications. Surely when you tendering for a project, job or any other piece of academic work, you should be selling yourself, as I can assure you most other writers for the site are doing.

5) If people feel that I have been out of line, please post in this thread legitmate points as to why I have. I can accept to a small degree why the particuliar line warning the customer can be misinterpreted and fellow writers can be perhaps slightly offended. However, if you are not one of the writers whom plagarises or produces inadequate standard work, then surely you have nothing at all to worry about.

I genuinely feel that I have not adopted a 'crab mentality', as has been portrayed. Some of the points made in this particuliar thread are genuinely not very nice- is it me adopting the 'crab mentality' or others.

6) And finally, I am genuinely concerned regarding this whole issue. I do honestly feel that I have not been out of line, and have been contemplating for several hours whether I have acted unethically, after I discovered this thread. Frankly it has really got to me- cause I do provide an honest service, and do work hard and generally do deliver on what I promise to customers. And i do feel that many customers are getting ripped off, far too often.

I really would like people to advise me on setting things straight and happy to acknowledge any grounded advice/points.

Thank you.

Monsta-

I know you think you are a good writer, and you're pretty decent for someone that does not speak English as a first language. But the fact that your feedback is generally good doesn't mean anything, except that your customers are even less skilled and less aware of their (and your) deficiencies than you are.

I'll point out just a few of the errors in this post just to give you an idea:




If you don't see anything wrong, you shouldn't be a professional writer.

This is a forum. This is not an academic piece of work. Why do people commonly within this forum have to point out grammatical and language errors. This is a FORUM.

Yes i do see something wrong for sure, but I have bigger problems than to check through a post. Whilst the thread is of concern, spelling and language errors within a forum, are not the biggest priorities within my life. regards


To open with the quote above, is simply a poor approach. My Pseudonym followed by a dash, is not professional.

This is a forum where you are attempting to assert your skills in the English language. It would help if you had some.


It's not spelling, its word usage, lack of commas (or commas in odd places), strange grammar, misuse of words, etc. I make a lot of typos in the forum, and I don't proofread. I don't use the word "why" when I mean "how," though, and my sentences have proper syntax and grammar.


How would you like me to address you? You don't have any sort of introduction at all, monsta2005. I though I was being polite by directing my comment at your chosen moniker. I can call you something else, if you'd rather.

Stop talking nonsense and get on with your own business.......this is FORUM. Think you really need to get out of the house for a while; if you really haven't anything better to do than monitor and analyse my sentences, then I suspect it will do you some good.

This comma is unnecessary, and in fact incorrect. The phrase "To open with the quote above" is awkward and unclear. "Opening in the manner i've quote is incorrect" is, I believe, what you are trying to say. You have made your point clearly (though it is a rather silly point to make and one that I disagree with), but not in what I would consider an adequate manner for a professional writer. This isn't meant as an insult, but you need to be honest with yourself about your level of proficiency.


You posted here to defend your abilities as a writer. I posted here to show you that this position is indefensible. It is a forum, and I am using it much better than you are, my monsta friend.

Call me what you want, if it will give you some pleasure. I reiterate that i've got a lot more to worry about than somebody throwing insults at me and trying to discredit me. Im happy to take on board any constructive advice with regards to my initial post; in fact, I really would encourage it. Thanks.

The fact that you take my comments as insults rather than constructive criticism is evidence of either your lack of understanding of plain English, or some significant (and well placed) insecurities about your command of the language.

monsta2005, you do not have a fluent command of written English. You should not be writing papers professionally. If your customers are EFL students, your work is probably more suited to their needs than mine, but for native English speakers your writing is simply inadequate. I'm sorry (well, no, not really) if you find this insulting, but your posts speak for themselves.

Have you just lost it or something? This is a forum. I am not going to mull over my language, grammar, etc for a post within a forum. If your basis for judging someones abilities as a writer lies within their posts, then god help you. Nothing you have said is constructive whatsoever- relative to what I have been asking. Your simply attempting to cover up your own inadequacies, with a child-like approach. I do not need to justify myself to you my abilities as an academic writer. I still encourage some advice, either via private message or within the thread and apologise it has deviated from the purpose it was intended. I do not believe Manunulat started the thread as a vendetta against me, but would have liked something constructive to transpire. As would I.

Monsta2005, please do not defend the indefensible.
1) You tried to "sell" yourself by underselling others. That is backhanded and unethical. Your failure to recognise it as such is your problem, not ours.

2) Your English is markedly ESL. This is a fact, not an insult.
3) No, I do not believe that you accurately represented your qualifications. The only one to have earned a distinction?

People who speak a language fluently don't need to "mull over" these things. I don't plan out my sentences consciously to ensure that their grammar and syntax are correct; being a native English speaker with a high command of the language, this occurs automatically.


My basis for judging you as a writer is the writing of yours I have seen--your posts here, and your claims on essaybay. Both of these are rife with error.


Go. Learn. English. Is that constructive enough for you?


That's "you're;" and what inadequacies, might I ask?


But adult-like language skills.


And can't even though you keep trying.


That's a run-on sentence, just to point out its biggest flaw.

Something constructive, thank you. The main core of the message concentrates on myself. I think I have used that message on two occasions, though to be honest until this thread was created I didnt really think too deeply as to the content of an initial private message to customers. I sincerely apologise if fellow writers feel it was backhanded and unethical, and will make sure in the future I actually think more about what I am sending to potential customers, within a private message.

I did not post in order to potray and exhibit my English skills. I can also point out errors and misuse of language in posts by other forum members within this thread and occasions where better language could have been used. These are not facts, but opinions.

I am the only person who attended my university to be awarded a distinction on its MBA program; that is a fact.

Regards

You've lost me. I cannot, for the life of me, understand what you are trying to say.


Go ahead. Do it.


You are not qualified to have an `opinion' on the English language. You first need to master it.


When was the university founded?


So, you assumed you had the right to slam other writers?


You are making an effort here. That is obvious. Despite your best efforts, however, ...

Regards my friend.

The very best to all writers-in particular to WRT and pheelyks.

Thank you.

Hi Guys,

I am looking for writers for few dissertations i have. I have been giving my writing jobs to theessay, realdissertation, dissertationprovider but so far i have not received any satisfactory work.

I am not sure if this is the right way to approach writers.

Cheers

I think he was referring to OxbridgeExpert.


Not really. You may be getting a lot of PMs because of this post. Not all of them are qualified to write an English essay.

My suggestion is this... Look through the posts in this forum; select a writer who's style you like; and send him/her a PM (but before you do that, make sure you post at least 15 messages on the board).

I hope this helped.

Manunulat-Do you not feel it is misleading customers that you do not state on essaybay that you are a Fillipino writer?

Yes be careful. Many writers who seem to focus on fellow writers, cannot prove their qualifications, and feel it neccessary to victimise writers who attempt to warn customers about the corruption within the industry.

Its funny how WRT seems to concentrate on other writers; perhaps if you focus efforts on your own writing your feedback may improve on essaybay. Furthermore, you may also be able to get some decent qualifications to your name ;-)

Pheelyks why are you ranked so low on essaybay?

"Manunulat" is a Filipino word which means "writer". He did not deceive anyone. His user name alone mentions that he is Filipino.


Wrong. These people you've mentioned (WRT and pheelyks) have already proven themselves. They do not victimize other writers. What they told you was "constructive criticism". If you cannot recognize that, then you don't understand English.

Look, monsta2005... You have already mentioned that you have big problems. Why do you feel the need to justify yourself here? Go solve your problems. While you're at it, continue to try to improve your English. If you make a living on something, be sure to do it right.

Good luck!


Pal, you don't know what you're talking about.

Gee, probably because I'm not even registered with essaybay. Do you really think you're being clever right now?

As far as proving my qualifications goes, how's this: my English doesn't suck. Your turn.

Hate to dissapoint, Monsta. Have not picked up orders from essaybay for almost two years. I think I worked on a total of 8 and the feedback was near-perfect. Besides, my username here has got nothing to do with my essaybay name.

Listen ill do what i want. Asian Writer I make an honest living without having to resort to the tactics, you clearlier are resorting to.The purpose of this forum is first and foremost to warn potential users of essaywriting services about the corruption which occurs within the industry; by trying to damage the intergrity of an honest, high quality, experienced essay writer seems petulant to say the least. You come across as an intelligent person to a degree. My private message clearly states that 'If i am not chosen, please be careful who is chosen. There are a number of writers, who are likely to hand you a sub-standard or plagarised piece of work'. Whilst I have promised not to refer to other writers within private messages in the future, surely you and other writers have nothing to worry about if you do not plagarise nor provide sub-standard pieces of work. Essaybay does have a transparent system to a degree, which clearly shows which writers are producing essays to a high standard on a consistent basis.


I say it sucks. What makes you qualified to judge my English? Im seriously curious now. Regards

<--- qualified judge of English.

I teach ESL as my day job, and I used to do international evaluations for testing overseas employees' English for a big accounting firm.

monsta's English, while it doesn't suck, is a little bit formal and old fashioned. anyway, I would pass them with a 4.5/5. pheelyks too. congrats to both of you. that will be $48 each.

Several degrees supposedly qualify me. More than that, my commas don't appear in odd places, I don't use words like "clearlier," and I am capable of reading personal commentary and criticism without perceiving an unprovoked attack.


My issue with monsta's language is not that it is formal or old fashioned. He does not have a command of grammar or syntax; his repeated use of "whilst" is idiosyncratic, but it wouldn't be a problem if it led to sentences that actually had some comparative value.

As for scoring my English at the same level as his, I respectfully (and completely) disagree.

sorry, pheelyks,


is not a complete sentence. that's minus a half point. of course, I only looked at both of your last responses for my grading. it's not like I actually have 20 minutes to spend on the phone with either of you. the point is, nobody's perfect.

Most Indians, at least here in the UK, are obsessed with "whilst." I think they were taught that British English is all about peppering your sentences with that particular word.