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writers.ph is really a scam


portiamalejana  2 | 1  
Feb 03, 2009 | #1
It's a big shame that writers.ph is claiming to be a Filipino company but just making a FOOL out of the Filipino writers and the innocent clients.

I started as a writer for this company 4 months ago and until now, I haven't received my payment yet. The staff of writers.ph were just making a fool out the writers. Your income will be deducted by a revision request or a plagiarism check. It was unfair since you know for yourself that what you have written are really of quality and with properly acknowledged sources.

Lately, I learned that I was paid my salary already, yet no amount is credited to my account. Mahiya naman kayo mga taga Writers.ph. Makakarma kayo nyan.

To all aspiring writers out there, don't be fooled by this company.

NAPAKALAKING KAHIHIYAN SA MGA PINOY!!
gen  - | 20  
Mar 12, 2009 | #2
this is true. the support here do not understand english, i am telling you, i have been having a hard time explaining to these people issues regarding my paper.
Baker_d  - | 19  
Mar 12, 2009 | #3
Maybe This person could help you voice your concerns!
This is a quote from some Thomas who had posted:

Hi,

I'm a reporter for the Chronicle of Higher Education and I'm working on a story about custom-written essays. I'd very much like to talk to current and former essay writers to see what their experience has been like. I'd also like to talk to some students who have been able to use custom-written essays.

Here's my e-mail address:

thomas.bartlett[the at symbol]chronicle.com

If you wish to remain anonymous, that's fine. Thanks in advance for the help.

Thomas


He continues:

I'm a reporter for the Chronicle of Higher Education and I'm working on an article about Essay Writers/writers.ph. I would like to speak to writers who have worked in the Philippines office or who have knowledge about how the company operates. Please e-mail me at thomas.bartlett@chronicle.com. Thanks!
gen  - | 20  
Mar 15, 2009 | #4
right. and how can we be sure he is not from the company?
Baker_d  - | 19  
Mar 15, 2009 | #5
Hmmmmm, Valid point. Its so hard to gauge who is from where!
gen  - | 20  
Mar 15, 2009 | #6
Are you a writer?
Baker_d  - | 19  
Mar 15, 2009 | #7
Yes. I have some prior experience in writing.
gen  - | 20  
Mar 15, 2009 | #8
Any experience on some of the aforementioned companies here?
Baker_d  - | 19  
Mar 15, 2009 | #9
Only one, which was a brief stint. Looking for something substantial.
krissie  - | 1  
Jun 22, 2009 | #10
I really didn't know all of these. I just got my salary last week, after two long months of completing and changing my payment info. I had no plagiarism problems but I got one deduction for late upload. Maybe there's just something wrong with payment info?
rustyironchains  12 | 696 ☆☆  
Jun 22, 2009 | #11
sometimes their software picks up quotations as plagiarism, and you can contact them about it and convince them to reduce or eliminate the fine. sometimes.

I have plagiarised myself before. sometimes I just tell the client, "look, you're not just supposed to hand it in. you have to change parts. I've written like 10 of these; I'm going to repeat myself." sometimes they are cool about it.

that was just advice. if essaywriters.net is associated with this company, they probably rip off their writers with unrealistic and outrageous fines. you should work for a company that treats their writers better.
jaderitoch  
Dec 16, 2009 | #12
I was browsing through the website last night about several academic writing services that I used to work for before I started looking for another writing company when I came across one forum, actually, a couple of forums/sites, that all talked trash about Writers.Ph. I couldn't help but shake my head and roll my eyes as I remember how I tried to defend this company once because I thought it was legit given the fact that they were paying me. Well I was dead wrong. The legitimacy of a company does not only end in the monetary issue; it has to cover several policies which they have imposed; policies that they occasionally violate. Once a particular policy does not go to their advantage, they will devise something, a strategy, to make it work for them.

What they actually do is, when you're a starter, they will pay you and make things seem so smooth-going. Naturally, one would think everything is ok. But when you've been working for them for one year and is in the status where you are making big amount of money, they will come up with something to either delay the payment, or deduct you with unreasonable fines that will leave you with a very small amount of money in the end!

Here is what had happened to my account. I took one project that cost over a hundred dollars. Writers.PH has its own messaging system for each order page, and I was in constant communication with my client then. When I had uploaded the paper, the client didn't ask for a revision request using the system (meaning it wasn't transferred to completed status back into the Current Order status). He only messaged me asking to add a couple of words and to add some more information and even said that he likes the paper. I was pleased, of course. Because it was only through messaging system that theclient asked for the revision, I was not under the pressure of time to submit it. There was no deadline ticking. The deadline was just between me and myclient . As I was about to check the status of my completed order that afternoon, I found that that particular order has been canceled! When the order's status is set to canceled, that normally means it was canceled by theclient. I was very confused because it didn't seem to be consistent with our chat history. Anyway, I thought the client decided it wasn't a good paper so I just decided to accept that I lost a big amount of money from an order that I have worked hard for. Just leave it, I said to myself. You can't please people. But what happened next shocked me to the very core. I got a new message from myclient still asking for updates on the paper, as if nothing had happened! He was like "Oh and one more thing, kindly do this and that, and take your time because I'm in no rush... just make sure you get everything perfect..." And I was like.... What the hell.....??

As it had turned out, the client didn't cancel the order. In fact, he had absolutely no idea what the company he paid for is doing! What Writers.PH didn't know is that, the paper wasn't finished yet and the client and I constantly communicate. Actually, Writers.PH didn't know the communication was still open. And that's where I got them! It was a big slap on my face that they are stealing money from me all along!!! I went back to all my completed orders that were still unpaid and they all showed that all orders amounting to $80 and above were either fined or delayed! God! Please, if you're a writer who just signed up to be one of their freelancewriters , then may God be with you. Try not to earn more than a hundred dollars, otherwise you will get it three months after or worst, you'll never get it at all.
macleto  - | 1  
Dec 17, 2009 | #13
Hi Baker,

I am a new member here. I recently found out that essaywriters.net, the sister company of writers.ph is a scam. I hate to admit it but I have been fooled. They terminated my account because of plagiarism when all I did was refer to online sources. I, of course put that in the references page and they haven't paid me still. I recently found out that this has been going on for quite some time now which I did not know when I first started writing for them. I will sue them and make sure that they close down. Some of the feedback from the students seem to be very detailed that it appears like they can do the paper on their own. I guess that's where the scam comes in. Essaywriters staff pretend that those comments are from the client to free themselves of having to pay their writers.
hardworking writer  - | 6  
Dec 28, 2009 | #14
Hi! guys, like most of you here I was also cheated and robbed by these academic sites not only one site but four sites. They are actually sister companies. They promised writers to pay 20% of what they actually charge to the clients and because I need a job while staying home with my kids, I decided to accept the offer. I already posted the details on the forum about the spammers and robbers. I have learned from that really traumatic experience. We all know the feelings of not getting paid for all the hard works we have done. I decided to work independently and build my own site. It is a writers cooperative actually with 50%-50% sharing for all the projects. Now I have a contract for web writing and I need translators in different languages for Germans, Danish, Spanish and French. I decided to comeback to the forum because I know many of you are looking for a job and maybe we can help each other.

here is my email: hughvoski@gmail
WritersBeware  
Dec 28, 2009 | #15
Shut up, and get lost, spammer. You have already been warned numerous times to stop your spamming.

Spamming "Hugh" is a "writer" from the Philippines who also claims to be from Chicago.

google.com/search?q=%22hughvoski%40gmail%22&hl=en&safe=off&filter=0 - Proof
Fracturegang  6 | 329  
Dec 28, 2009 | #16
It was a big slap on my face that they are stealing money from me all along!!!

Was the slap on your face? If what you told is true, you can be satisfied that the company has got the big slap on its face.

Why can't we donate to build an organization like "Legal Help For Victims of Cyber Crime"? We will have Cyber Investigation Agents who will inspect and collect proofs of spam of any site. And finally we will take legal steps against these spammers and also we can help other anti cybercrime Organizations.

How is the idea, people? (No comments needed from Phyleeks)
pheelyks  
Dec 28, 2009 | #17
How is the idea, people? (No comments needed from Phyleeks)

Gee willikers! I can't be part of your super duper detective club? Now I'm sad.
Fracturegang  6 | 329  
Dec 29, 2009 | #18
Indeed no cretin will be allowed. But if you think that you are not a cretin, you may join with us. Remember!! I have kicked on WRT's ass because of his dirty behavior. If you are like him, you are going to be the next to get the kick.
nw2010  - | 12  
Jan 15, 2010 | #19
Hi Portiamalejana,

I'm very sorry this has happened to you. Because of similar experiences, I have decided to built my own clientele. I would strongly suggest doing the same if you may have time. Good luck!

-Nichole
WritersBeware  
Jan 15, 2010 | #20
I have decided to built my own clientele.

Gee, I wonder if this has anything to do with why you are preaching that customers should "avoid companies."
nw2010  - | 12  
Jan 17, 2010 | #21
WritersBeware,

Gee, I wonder why you seem to have a response to every thread/topic on the forum. What I gave was a "suggestion." No one is not "preaching." There's a BIG difference.

-Nichole
WritersBeware  
Jan 17, 2010 | #22
No one is not "preaching."

Exactly.
pheelyks  
Jan 17, 2010 | #23
nw2010: You're English is not good enough to write academic papers. Go back to school before you try to "built your own clientele." And get spell check, at the very least.
Researcher  8 | 310  
Jan 17, 2010 | #24
You're English is not good enough to write academic papers.

Only Pheelyks got that ability..... all others are stupid..... Pheelyks what is your qualification? I am sure based on your superior English you must have tried your hand on other subjects too.... the subjects that you might never have studied but since you got great great English writing skills (I doubt that Shakespeare's wandering soul must have been in contact with you from hell to get tuition from you to improve his English? I am sure you must have advised him to try his hand at writing technical papers on Econo-physics too because he got Good English Writing skills so he got the license to write on every subject regardless of your knowledge of the subject)...... you can write on anything

You are idiot really.... a completely biased hypocrite from the planet of Apes.....
WritersBeware  
Jan 17, 2010 | #25
You are idiot

You are grammarian ......................................
pheelyks  
Jan 17, 2010 | #26
Only Pheelyks got that ability..... all others are stupid

No, there are actually many people I know--including many people that post here--that are capable of writing English that is free from grammatical errors, usage issues, and syntax problems. You, fracturegang, anky, nw2010, and several others simply can't. There's no shame in it; it's only a problem when you try to make a living at it without telling your customers what your real skill level is.
francisdza179  - | 1  
Mar 10, 2011 | #27
I am enlightened by these discussions
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
Apr 24, 2021 | #28
Try not to earn more than a hundred dollars, otherwise you will get it three months after or worst, you'll never get it at all.

That doesn't make the company sound special. It just proves that all the scam companies run on the same template. Lull the writers into a sense of complacency then pull the rug from under them. They won't know what hit them and, they can fire the writer in the process. Any complaints or inquiries about pay and some writers from writers.ph.DND have found their accounts actually cancelled, with more than a hundred dollars pending.
noted  8 | 2039 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Feb 12, 2022 | #29
For any writer who would like to continue working for companies due to personal preferences, it would be better if you do not stay with one company for too long. Consider changing companies every one to two years. This is normally the work partnership range wherein problems do not yet arise with payment values. Changing companies will keep your status as a newcomer permanent, since you are always new at a company. You will not have a regular client base but, you will have a regular and usually penalty free + non- delayed payment. I am sure you would prefer the latter right?
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Feb 14, 2022 | #30
The only writers who might conceivably benefit at all from switching companies regularly like that are bad writers who know that they're not very good at this. They'll submit bad work and/or recycled work for as long as they can get away with it until the company gets complaints and figures out that the those writers are no good, at which point those writers have to find other companies where thay can try to make a fresh start. On the other hand, I cannot imagine even the slightest benefit of constantly changing companies for good writers.

Whenever you first start writing for a company, the company really has no way of knowing whether you're any good or how reliable and trustworthy you really are, regardless of what's on your resume and how good your writing samples are. It takes some time for them to get to know you and to build their trust in the quality of your work for them. Many companies restrict access to more advanced projects and don't allow their newer writers to view them. Other companies rank their writers (based on their prior projects and on customer feedback) and only permit writers at higher levels to view and take certain projects. Customer service reps also need some time to get to know writers in relation to how they handle questions or revision requests from clients. The way CS responds to complaints and/or revision requests often has a lot to do with what they already know about that writer's work and reputation. Finally, companies will also offer their best writers bonuses to take on more difficult projects, sometimes. Writers don't usually get any of those benefits until they've written a few hundred projects for a company over the course of a year or more.

If you're a good writer, you have absolutely nothing to gain by constantly switching companies, and I don't know what "problems [with] payment values" could possibly mean, especially in relation to your length of time working for a legit company. If a company is legit, they pay all of their writers exactly what they owe them every payment cycle, whether writers have been with them for 1 month or for 10 years; there just aren't any "problems" that suddenly emerge after 1-2 years of working for them, and certainly not as a function of how much time you've been with them. Conversely, if a scam company rips off its writers, they don't normally pay them everything they owe for 1-2 full years and then suddenly stop paying them. What sometimes happens is that companies that rip off their writers might purposely suck them in by paying them for their first projects or for their first couple of months of projects, and then stop paying them what they owe them as soon as a writer is owed a few thousand dollars for a full month's work. But companies that do that don't pay their writers in full for 1-2 years and suddenly stop paying them after paying for their first few hundred delivered projects during their first year or two.
Kris2910  1 | 3   Company Representative
Jan 17, 2023 | #31

writers.ph.DND scam or not



writers.ph.DND is a freelance job marketplace that connects employers with remote writers, editors, and other professionals. It has been around since 2016, and it claims to be a legitimate platform for finding remote writing gigs. However, there have been some reports of writers.ph.DND being a scam.

Although writers.ph.DND appears to be a legitimate freelance job marketplace, there have been some reports of writers not being paid for their work. Writers have reported not receiving payment for their work after submitting their completed assignments, and some have reported that their accounts have been suspended without notice.

Additionally, writers.ph.DND has been accused of charging high fees for its services. Many writers have complained that the fees are too high and that they don't get enough work to cover the costs.

In conclusion, writers.ph.DND appears to be a legitimate freelance job marketplace, but there have been some reports of writers not being paid for their work and of the fees being too high. It is important for writers to do their research and carefully consider the risks before signing up.
noted  8 | 2039 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Jan 17, 2023 | #32
@Kris2910 so you work in the PR department for this company and the other company you posted for? Or is Studywoot a new affiliate of writers.ph.DND? That would be the assumption since you took pains to cut and paste reviews of this company from other review sites. You are paid to promote these companies and you cannot even do that properly. You do not deserve your payday for this type of work. You should not even be in the PR and promotions line of work. You do not have what it takes to do even a half hearted job. You cannot even make up your mind between being a freelancer or a company representative. Please make up your mind for clarity sake.
AzraelDR  - | 1   Freelance Writer
Feb 10, 2023 | #33
Just want to give an update on writers.ph.DND and ask for some advice. I am one of the senior writers at essaywriters.net.DND, which, as one of the early posts have identified, is indeed one of the many sister sites of writers.ph.DND. Both sites have the same "toll free support" hotline, and the number of orders, registered writers, and online writers they supposedly "track" in real time are likewise exactly the same. Last Monday, February 6, 2023, my "personal manager" (basically your "boss" who checks up on writers and their performance) sends me a message on the essaywriters.net.DND's message board telling me that I could no longer take orders because they were doing a temporary "quality check." Indeed, when I checked the available orders page, I could not see any orders at all. I asked my personal manager how long this temporary quality check would last, and she told me she did not have that information. Since she had responded, I also followed up on an issue about the delayed payment for February 1-3, 2023. It was already the 6th, and I have yet to receive the wire transfer to my bank account. Throughout 2022, essaywriters.net.DND had been frequently late in paying us writers, sometimes as late as two weeks. My personal manager said that "I am waiting for the update from the Billing team regarding your payments. I was informed that the payroll is in progress." This was the last message I received from my personal manager. It is now February 10, a full working week has passed, and neither my personal manager nor BIlling has responded to my daily messages asking for my money.

In short, it seems that writers.ph.DND/essaywriters.net.DND are cutting down on the amount of writers they are employing, because they are barely receiving any clients anymore. I have been writing for essaywriters.net.DND for 10 years, and I have a 98% client satisfaction rate, and have, on many occasions, had clients who would place repeat orders with me as the preferred writer. I worked with some clients for several years, and I always delivered quality work. Now, it seems they are cutting me off and want to retain only the bare minimum of writers. I think that I am probably one of the last writers there to care about the quality of my work, and still they have chosen to bar me from accessing new orders and refuse to pay me the money they owe me for a month's work. I am severely demoralized and depressed, as I cannot contact anyone to get my money, and I have bills to pay by the end of the month.

Can anyone give me advice as to where I can seek remote academic writing work that actually treats its writers with some decency? Or at the very least some consistency in payment for work done? I am done with essaywriters.net.DND and would like to provide my quality services elsewhere.
noted  8 | 2039 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Feb 10, 2023 | #34
You are out of luck in this case. The companies have been releasing their writers, preferring to keep the new, low paid, or bad quality writers because it suits their financial bottomline. They will only work with writers that they can penalize heavily, to the point where nothing will be left of their salaries. At this point, it would be better for you to either start adveritisng yourself as a reliable academic writer independently or, changing career avenues. Academic writing is too bloody a business to get into these days since the client number has been dwindling steadily with the students shifting to ChatGPT and other AI apps for writing their essays. I believe that the time has come for you to evolve from being a simple academic essay writer. There are other writing jobs available for freelancers, you just have to know how to find the jobs. UpWork and LinkedIn would be helpful in that aspect. You could even start your own business blog, hawking your services as an academic writer if you wish to do so.

You could opt to become a Featured Writer at this forum, advertising yourself as an independent freelancer as well. Most students come here looking for independent writers and the featured writers only need to be active participants in order to promote their services. There are some forum rules you will have to follow to successfully promote yourself though.

It will be better and more beneficial for you to strike out on your own after all these years. You already have the skills that you need to succeed independently. Now, work on marketing yourself to the clients using relevant advertising avenues. This forum being one of them since it offers several self advertising options. Yes, you will need to spend money to make money. You might be surprised at how much more money you can make that way, even with expenses deducted.
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