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Writing companies discriminating against writers from developing countries


Innovator  2 | 24   Freelance Writer
Oct 10, 2012 | #1
There is a major scandal in the offing. (It has come to my attention that) some academic writing companies pay less money per page to their writers from developing countries. For example, a writer registered from a developing country will see a CPP of $ 3 on their panel, while another writer registered from a developed country will see a CPP of $ 6 for the same order. Some people may bluff about the differences in the value of dollar between the two countries, but cut me some slack. This is an unethical system which outrightly discriminates against writers from specif parts of the world. AR is one of the companies perpetrating this ridiculous fallacy.
JohnsMom  - | 266  
Oct 10, 2012 | #2
I hate to burst your bubble, but the real injustice is the fact that these companies are charging customers over $20 a page and still only pay $6 a page even to their "top" writers.

Here's a hint: these companies are scams, and are run by unscrupulous owners who will do pretty much anything to increase their profits. Stop working for them.
mre  1 | 169  
Oct 10, 2012 | #3
You should work for a company that only has a bid option. If you think you deserve $15 per page for your writing and there is a 10 page paper on the board, then you bid $150. It is as simple as that. Don't stick with set rate companies...those are ripoffs.
forumregulator  1 | 162  
Oct 10, 2012 | #4
There is no much difference between $3 and $6 so you better off just keeping off such mean companies. In my opinion, such low rates are only justifiable if you are starting out because at that time you barely understand the industry. However, if two years down the line you still are getting paid sweater shop rates, I would suggest you look for alternative employment because writing a good paper is no joke, which is why you should demand an commensurate compensation.

You should work for a company that only has a bid option.

Uvo introduced this option sometime back and I was quite happy only to realize that it was meant to allow the desperate ones to place a lower bid. Some companies still pay well without having a bid system in place although most allow writers to write informal notes if they feel the task deserves a higher compensation. At the end of the day it really is a matter of management intent.
stu4  21 | 856 ☆☆   Observer
Oct 10, 2012 | #5
UVO and AR are one to work good.
Darkest Horse  - | 11   Freelance Writer
Oct 10, 2012 | #6
It's exploitation at its worst. Don't be the abused wife who goes back for more. Just get out. Your English seems good enough to write for any company so why restrict yourself to shaholes?
OP Innovator  2 | 24   Freelance Writer
Oct 11, 2012 | #7
the real injustice is the fact that these companies are charging customers over $20 a page and still only pay $6 a page even to their "top" writers.

Discriminated WriterUnfortunately, this is the sad reality. On average, most of the example research companies pay their freelance writers less than 35 % of the amount paid by clients.

You should work for a company that only has a bid option.

The essay composition company I work with has a bidding system (they sometimes would offer paid projects to writers they think can complete it well or orders with urgent deadlines). However, there are new writers always willing to work at low rates.

There is no much difference between $3 and $6 so you better off just keeping off such mean companies.

I was just giving an arbitrary figure- no the real rates.

At the end of the day it really is a matter of management intent.

Ditto!

It's exploitation at its worst. Don't be the abused wife who goes back for more.

I feel obliged to inform other people about any underhand activities performed the scammers. Therefore, I will continue to expose the cheats.
Smiley73  4 | 591 ☆☆  
Apr 27, 2018 | #8
I have long suspected that this was happening to the writers of the Ukrainian owned academic outsourcing companies. I just did not have proof to back up this suspicion of mine. So I am wondering how the OP managed to confirm this information since the writers at these companies are prevented from talking amongst themselves and they see only specific orders in the system based upon their writer level. It is true that there is a variation in the salary because the companies these days offer a "bid" on an order that was priced too low when it was placed or, the writer has the option to request for a CPP increase if he feels the need to do so. Not that he will be granted the CPP increase, but at least he can try. This is something that is really a despicable practice among these companies. Writers should be paid based on the quality of their work and not their country of origin. There is a big difference between the two. The quality is more important than the location of the writer. If the writer is in a Third World country but manages to deliver First World results, why should he paid less? It doesn't make sense.
Write Review  1 | 546 ☆☆  
Jun 28, 2018 | #9
It may not make sense to you but it makes perfect business sense to the company owner. This is a for profit business. As such, the owner of the company will look to hire the cheapest service he can get while expecting "quality results". Think of it as the BPO industry offshoring business. The international companies hire people from the third world because they agree to work hard just to receive slave wages. The dollar or British Pound currency exchange is the main reason that they can pay these writers less. Slave wages to us means good wages where they are. The company comes out as the winner here because they pay less dollars to the writers.

So, if the company hires writers from the first world, they expect to pay those writers more due to those writers receiving actual dollars for their salary. There is no currency conversion to help them out in this case so they have to pay higher wages, even if it still isn't the proper hourly wage payment in the United States or the UK. Therefore, it isn't really discrimination but old fashioned business sense that the developing country writers have to contend with in terms of the wages they receive.
writer4life  3 | 297  FEATURED   Freelance Writer
Aug 19, 2018 | #10
In terms of discriminating against writers from developing countries, I don't think it's as much discrimination as it is the quality of work many writers from developing countries provide. Now, don't get me wrong, I am NOT saying that it applies to all writers, but I AM saying that many low-paying companies outsource to under-educated writers and the quality is commensurate with type of writer they source. Then, of course, is the other side of the issue, which @WriteReview noted: what is considered a low wage in one country may be a good wage in another. It's really a matter of where you are, where the company is, and a million other factors in-between.

Sadly, many companies do pay a lower per page wage and the only way around it is to branch out on your own, setting your own rate. However, I don't recommend stopping your current work until you've build a strong clientele and reputation (i.e. consistent referrals, etc.). You want to avoid putting all your eggs in one basket. I makes better sense to stay with the company earning some income while working to earn MORE income on the side.
Study Review  - | 254  
Apr 11, 2019 | #11
As sad and as frustrating as it can be, I do agree with what was previously mentioned in this thread. While I agree that often ESL writers (or writers from developing countries) typically get paid less than their ENL counterparts, it is difficult for these writers to become private contractors or independent workers in the beginning. I would also suggest the same thing: try working for multiple companies, see which ones pay better than others, and always have a back-up plan. Considering how tough competitiveness is in this field, it's imperative to understand that most of these companies are just trying to keep afloat as well. I also agree that this is often because these people believe that they can get away with paying less simply because of the economic differences and way differentials among the countries. There's so much to this discussion nonetheless.
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
Mar 20, 2020 | #12
I don't really believe that such a thing was or is taking place in the academic writing companies. I for one, pay my writers not based on their global location, but rather, on their writing skills. Writers who show that they are capable of doing extremely difficult papers such as a dissertation or professional office report / presentation will find that I pay them based on the quality of their work. Writers who show far less abilities in writing and cannot seem to progress past a high school level of writing will not get a promotion and will definitely not receive a CPP increase from me. I will not pay for mediocre work. That is all the CPP of the company was suggesting. It isn't discrimination to demand quality from the workforce. That is expected.




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