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Lavinia  4 | 495 ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Sep 27, 2007 | #161
are you kidding? lol.

if julie was offended by anything i wrote she can let me know and we can talk about it. to my knowledge, we disagreed but it didn't get personal. if i offended her, she's demonstrated that she is quite capable of expressing that herself. she and i will commence our debate once she provides evidence for her end.

with you, i remained relatively civil even while pointing out the error of your arguments. i didn't call you pathetically stupid, i called your arguments that. and they were. i think you need to learn to distinguish between criticizing an individual and criticizing an argument.

bottom line: you tried to use fallacies that you clearly do not understand as a means of discrediting my response to Joey and it blew up in your face because I actually know quite a bit about comm. theory and can see that you know very little. pointing out that you don't know much about fallacies isn't a personal attack and shouldn't be construed as such. i don't know much about baking a turkey, i don't pretend to, and i wouldn't be insulted if you or anyone else pointed it out. so stop posing and you can avoid this embarassing unpleasantness.

this has nothing to do with greed unless you mean greed on your end. you picked this fight with me, not the other way around. i criticized joey's sexist rhetoric and you decided to attack me. could it be that you decided to defend joey because you and he have similar views about working for fraudulent companies? hmmm...

i'm not even going to engage your claims about the provision of quality work by fraudulent sites. that's not what our latest exchange was about. you only mention it now because you want to create a smokescreen to cover your retreat. no one is buying it.
OP WritersBeware  
Sep 27, 2007 | #162
You can kick and scream in forums like this all you want but that won't change a thing. :)

Well, you can better your last, dirty penny that I will uncover your scams at every turn.
kaye_navarro  1 | 1  
Oct 15, 2007 | #163
I suggest that before any of you decide to bash a whole country (the Philippines) as a source of second-rate or even third-rate writers, do your research. You can do that, right? I mean, that is what you do for a living?

The reason writers in the Philippines get paid lower because we can afford to accept lower as the standard of living is lower here (e.g. we don't pay US$5 for a McDonald's Meal) but that does not mean the work we do is substandard. I know for a fact that people Stateside are grumbling about the amount of customer service and other labor-intensive work that is outsourced which may be the reason for all this angst. But the truth is, Filipinos are just as good, maybe even better at spoken and written English than most Americans. If you don't believe me, look it up. Better yet, show me yours and I'll show you mine. I'm 100% Filipino in the Philippines and I'm quite proud of the fact that I am extremely proficient in two languages instead of one.
Lavinia  4 | 495 ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Oct 15, 2007 | #164
I suggest that before any of you decide to bash a whole country (the Philippines) as a source of second-rate or even third-rate writers, do your research.

who did that?

The reason writers in the Philippines get paid lower because we can afford to accept lower as the standard of living is lower here but that does not mean the work we do is substandard.

this is just faulty thinking. this isn't a company outsourcing to the Philippines to cut down on operational costs. the company that started this thread is lying about the background of its writers. that should make you angry. you should attack them for perpetuating the stereotype that you're a bad writer.

on a holistic level, this is employment in cyberspace, where national boundaries mean very little. why would you choose to earn less when you could earn more with another company? it can't really be that you figure "well, my standard of living here is lower than in the US, so i can do the exact same work as a US writer and be ok with earning less." as a rational actor, you should work to maximize the amount of revenues earned through your labor, period. if you choose to work for someone who pays less, then something is up.

add on: ok, i just read your post saying that you're going to work for yourself, so you probably agree with me on this. good luck to you on branching out. i personally believe that a foreign writer with strong writing skills and topic knowledge will do very well by being honest with potential clients.

But the truth is, Filipinos are just as good, maybe even better at spoken and written English than most Americans.

well, that seems like a big assertion, don't you think? i'm interested in seeing the evidence to support this claim. i only looked briefly, but i couldn't find a comparative study to support your claim.

in fact, from what I've been reading, the Philippines was known as the leader in English language proficiency in the Asian region for years but the quality of English language proficiency within the nation as a whole has suffered in recent years.

your own senate recognized this in 2006. The evidence you ask? sure, check this out:

senate.gov.ph/lis/bill_res.aspx?congress=13&q=SRN-520

I found this article informative: from the International Herald Tribune, published last month (August 13, 2007) by Carlos Conde:

"MANILA: "We grow our hogs in our own farms so you're sure to get meat that is grown."

"The city's voice is soft like solitudes."

"He found his friend clowning himself around."

"He seemed to be waiting for someone, not a blood relation, much less a bad blood."

Such phrases, lifted from government-approved textbooks used in Filipino public schools, are reinforcing fears that crucial language skills are degenerating in a country that has long prided itself on having some of the world's best English speakers. At a time when English is widely considered an advantage in global competitiveness for any country, many fear this former U.S. colony is slipping."


It would seem that the textbooks in your nation do not teach proper grammar. the article quotes members of your nation's school system to back up the claim. as many as 75% of the textbooks circulated contain these common errors. the article continues:

"For years now, Antonio Calipjo Go, an academic and a supervisor of the Marian School of Quezon City, a private school here, has waged a campaign against bad textbook English.

"I pity our children who are being fed these errors," Go said in an interview. "This is one of the reasons why the level of education in our country is worsening."

Go says he has notified the Philippine Department of Education of dozens of English-language errors in all seven approved social studies textbooks. In January, he testified at a Senate hearing on the subject. And he has written to the World Bank, which has granted an 800 million peso, or $17.5 million, loan to the Philippines government for textbooks.

But when the new school year opened in June, the books were unchanged.


now, before you go all crazy with the accusations, please note that I am not offering racist rhetoric. I am, however, pointing to evidence that demonstrates that your nation's system of teaching English has been recognized to suffer from some big problems.

so, i'll stop now. your turn. where is the evidence?
OP WritersBeware  
Oct 15, 2007 | #165
I suggest that before any of you decide to bash a whole country (the Philippines) as a source of second-rate or even third-rate writers, do your research.

You're another ignorant, criminal-apologist, race-baiter.

The mere fact that you do not understand the CONTEXT of the general complaint is further proof that you are not qualified to write for Americans. Instead of focusing on the FRAUD by your Filipino comrades (which I proved--with EVIDENCE--in the first post), you try to redirect blame onto me and others for being "racist." Give me a break! Don't blame ME because they are Filipino crooks and I simply called it like it is. The ONE and ONLY reason why I mention their nationality and location is because they LIE about both in order to fool American customers into placing orders. Understand?

If they were to openly state on their site, "We are Filipino writers who are based in the Philippines," I would have no problem with them. However, those Filipino charlatans purposely advertise FAKE ADDRESSES in the United States. Understand?
EW_writer  21 | 1981 ☆☆☆  
Oct 15, 2007 | #166
Very nice... PinoyPenster folk, I assume? :)
caribbeandream  - | 2  
Nov 09, 2007 | #167
I'm agree with you! the operator looks like a good guy!
OP WritersBeware  
Nov 09, 2007 | #168
I suppose, in your criminal mind, that a lying, cheating, thieving, offshore scumbag is a "good guy."
jassrosy  - | 6  
Dec 05, 2007 | #169
Wow! I really enjoy about your write-ups.
emjay  - | 6  
Jan 04, 2008 | #170
you shouldn't be happy about this jassrosy...
that EW guy is a dog. he's probably one of those traitor dogs.

we're in this business...to stay?

uhuh...stay.

maybe behind bars, you'll stay.

you're an "employer" EW.
you're probably a Filipino "employer"
you're probably one of our "employers"

the thing is, you could probably scam people who don't want to study on their own and give them "let the buyer beware" or sumthin'

but your writers still deserve to get what little earnings they signed up for.

don't scam your writers. you just might scam someone you shouldn't scam.

oh wait...yeaup...you just did.

about 5 of them. without background checking whether one of them had a general for an uncle.

uhmmmmm, he has. so he's just waiting 'till you pay us 5 peepz and there's a time frame
....before you get what you deserve.

we weren't friends. we just met up on nonchalant terms to ask each other if it was ok to tell authorities about what just happened to the 5 of us.

one of them was fair and said to wait.

even if she's the one that's being thought of as: all bark no bite.

earnings are earnings. and money is money.

"pay up. "

two, very, simple words.
margie  - | 52  
Jan 04, 2008 | #171
Hahaha... emjay: get real. Do you think a general would bother hunting down somebody for $500 or so? The general is made to sound like a hired goon.
emjay  - | 6  
Jan 04, 2008 | #172
hahaha...you get real too. if you're so smart, have you not heard the saying " truth is stranger than fiction?"

and you make it sound like it is just the one guy.

you do the math. 5 people and counting since 2 people resigned from the company as of today...

so that's 7 and counting....

the general happens to love his grandson who was a rehabilitating addict, who should not have been hired, if only the company had a REAL HR personnel.

as it is, WRITERS.PH WAS LOOKING FOR A REAL HR personnel, dec 27th.

who was HR then? the manager? your boyfriend?

go sit on your high chair you no-good doer.

and we know where y'all live...psycho-scammers.

MJ's from Cavite and her mom's family has been talking to Cavite NBI to do something about what happened to her.

Margie ( the real margie) filed a police report about her former team leader
who lives in Paranaque, and the police of makati will knock on his door ( the fake office door ) on Tuesday.

Mr. Abaya, no comment...like i said 'go do the math'

Ces already notified Makati NBI too. And is waiting for payment or Makati NBI goes with her to open the fake office door and shout about her payment.

and there's me. i'm the quiet one. I also worked with essaywriters so that's a shame on me there, but not anymore.

i want shame for the scammers lol.

oops, my bad. J's the general's nephew.
margie  - | 52  
Jan 04, 2008 | #173
emjay, take a hike. You need it. I don't wonder why you didn't get paid. Bringing in the NBI? What are you, Microsoft? har har har

And besides emjay, didn't you know about going to court to get a warrant? The police or any authority can't just bust in and demand payment. What are they, money collectors? ahahahahahah

First, you made the general sound like a hired goon. Second, you made the authorities sound like money collectors. What's next, emjay?
victim writer 2  - | 2  
Jan 05, 2008 | #174
And besides emjay, didn't you know about going to court to get a warrant?

cheer up emjay, don't let this guy put you down.
i sympathize with you. i was a victim of writers.ph also
like you and the other victim writer.

the thing this margie guy said is just like what our manager thinks.
its called ignorance.
victim writer and i talked about this and we both agree that this complaint site may even be theirs. we're already very paranoid.

victim writer and myself, we think this margie guy was the idiot who used to give us
a lot of white noise. he sounds the same kind of stupid, you know.

i think pepi is my friend, Bunot.
hey bunot, haven't you left them yet?

Bunot goes to the office almost everyday, is very polite and quiet also but since he wasn't able to make the "quota" he didn't receive his basic salary and was promised it for December 30.

they keep working for the company because they say they are watching their earnings. keeping a close eye on it. maybe, i say, turning a blind eye to everything else in front of them.

if you want to work for a legitimate writing site go to where we transferred. koolmedia.

those who hired me asked what's wrong with Uniwork Inc, which is the alleged parent company of writers.ph

i asked them why they were asking and i was informed that at least five people
already applied with them and we all had the same story.

that writers.ph is a fraud and Uniwork Inc is a fraud.
i was even surprised that the guy who was confided in by our manager was looking for a new job!!

so i asked him why he had been there, and he answered, even if he was a friend to our manager, he also wasn't going to wait up to june to get his salary.

then he apologized to me for being mum about my problem before with them,
and since we were already friends back then, i said, ok..forgiven.

but what are we going to do?

he asked me what i was going to do, first. i answered that i was all in too behind our friend who filed a police report.it is the least i can do.

not getting paid is fraud. termination without pay is fraud (my case also). and a police report of fraud is our right and this margie guy can call it a threat with EW but it is not a threat when we don't have anything to lose by telling the truth.

even maids who get fired get their last pay, what more, college gradutes? so that is fraud.

if maids can file a police report against their employers who didn't pay them, why can't college graduates do this? if the police go with maids to collect their salaries from employers who don't want to pay, why can't they do the same for degree holders who have the same kind of employers? Employers who don't pay.

we also have the same rights as other victims.

and we find it just a tad bit funny that the four who've given up working with them
came from the same team.

and i think we're all friends because we applied for writers.ph and there we were being hired by the same company after being victimized by writers.ph.
pepi  - | 18  
Jan 06, 2008 | #175
Sorry, I am not Bunot or whoever he maybe. I am new in this forum. I can be polite but I can also be the devil incarnate if you know what I mean, hehehe >:>
margie  - | 52  
Jan 06, 2008 | #176
What? The general and the NBI all failed to show up? Why don't you call in the president and be done with those who "scammed" you? LOL.

Anyway, victim writer 2, being ignorant about the law won't get you anywhere. And pretending you have connections won't make you sound more believable. Do you know how it made you sound? F-O-O-L-I-S-H.

Go ask your general and your nbi allies if you think you can just bang on somebody's door and demand for money. That's never done in any democratic country. Where do you live, in Cuba? Or maybe, you and your friends are mafiosi? No, don't bother answering. I know where you live in case you missed the sarcasm. *wink*

Is there a margie at writers.ph? I didn't even know it existed until imee brought it our attention. In case you didn't notice, margie is just an alias I'm using in this forum. Isn't that supposedly obvious? Geesh.

Well, anyway, I still hope you all get paid. :)
imee  2 | 17  
Jan 07, 2008 | #177
@ victim writer 2 & emjay

Guys, it doesn't help anyone to take out all your rants and frustrations in this forum. we are all here to tell our stories and get updates about things that may be happening to another writer, or to the company - essaywriters and writers.ph.

it's understandable that you are all pissed and that i agree that we are all entitled to our earnings because we really worked hard for it, but, again, it doesn't help you or us, when you speak like everyone here is your enemy or co-conspirators of EW and writers.ph.

I have been working for them and their support are courteous naman as well as the Makati office, everytime I call them to ask about why my salary is delayed. I always pester and message them like maybe 20 times or more a day, but I never cursed nor said anything bad about them. you see, i believe that they have the power to hold my earnings if they disliked me so i tried to be makulit but in a nice way, so that, they won't say that i was rude or anything.

About margie---
i read her previous posts and i have been corresponding with margie as we have the same situation and problem re: dec and jan payments and shifting to wire - my purpose is to get an update what is happening to the other writer so that i can figure out what will happen to me, or what will not happen.

as of now, no money in the bank yet but it takes 2-3 banking days, so i'll give them till wednesday

As pepi said, no point antagonizing as they did their part of the deal (hopefully), now i just have to wait.

AND NO... I AM NOT DEFENDING EW OR WRITERS.PH.

in case i get accused of doing so...
EW_writer  21 | 1981 ☆☆☆  
Jan 07, 2008 | #178
It's nice to see that this site is finally being used for worthwhile purposes (and not simply as a springboard for launching biased flames against one company or another). I haven't checked my bank yet for the Jan 1-3 payment. Will do now.

Just checked. Nothing yet.
imee  2 | 17  
Jan 07, 2008 | #179
EW_writer, how many days does a wire transfer usually takes for you? what country are you from btw, if you don't mind my asking :D
dedicated writer  1 | 2  
Nov 20, 2009 | #181
Just a good tip, read different writers forum on various sites to determine the SCAMMERS AND ROBBERS WHO DON'T PAY FOR YOUR WORKS.

AVOID absolutepapers.com, advanceessays.com, ACCURATEPAPERS.COM, AWRITE.NET

They are managed by fraudulent identities of Beatrice Kiddo, Jenny Smith, Ronald Marcheta, Jake Evans and Mico Andre ( who is aka geo mac MBA on his facebook account).

They are not Americans their identities are fraudulent. SO WRITERS BEWARE OF THEM.....




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