American, Australian, Ukrainian, British, and Pakistani websites - let's join together!

BINGO!

If an ESL writer's prose has advanced to the point at which it is indistinguishable in ANY way from that of a qualified, native English-speaking writer with a Master's degree from a North American or British university, that ESL writer WILL be hired (regardless of ethnicity or location) by one of the legitimate, US/UK companies.

For the 10,000th time, it's not a matter of location or ethnicity, but forthrightness and qualifications.

You're from the UK right? When you were accepted by ET, what documents were you asked to provide? Do you think someone from the third world would be able to provide these same documents? Furthermore, if we accept what you say as true, then aren't you contradicting the promise of many of these legitimate sites that they only hire American writers who have English as a native language? No matter how good a Nigerian is in writing in English, a "legit" company hiring such a person would be in violation of their promise (which is the same thing that ew and other foreign sites do).


Care to name a few of these sites? :P

In this industry, being "American" or "British" is more a matter of being able to meet ALL of the standards-and grasp the linguistic/cultural nuances-of a qualified, native English-speaking writer with a Master's degree from a North American or British university rather than being "American/British" by blood or location.

Basically, if an ESL writer in Bangladesh writes like pheelyks, OR, Freelance, Lavinia, or me, he or she will get hired. If his or her writing contains errors that are common to ESL writers (and unqualified Americans), he or she will be turned away. It's quite simple.

Oh, please. If I never told anyone that I was an ESL writer, nobody would have guessed it.

Where is your PROOF that you EVER applied to ET?

Very true.....

Nonsense. Pheelyx recognized your ESL tendencies VERY quickly. They've also been obvious to me since Day 1, and I'll be glad to begin drawing attention to them, if you wish.

Just as I recognized his.


But hey, maybe his keyboard was missing an apostrophe. :p Point is, everyone makes mistakes. What matters is not to make them when you're getting paid... which I guess explains your almost perfect grammar when posting on this message board. ^_^


Stop kidding yourself, moron who can't count. ^_^ Even OR, without me ever asking her to, said that she couldn't have guessed that I was ESL. :) Care to ask Lavinia and Freelance as well?

Sorry-I don't play with children. Feel free to respond when you can COMPETE with me in ANY regard.

Err.... 892 + 1 = ?

Hahahahaha!!!! Why do you make it so easy? Oh jeez, you're hilarious... XD

FYI, harping on mundane, meaningless, childish nonsense that EVERYONE knows is absurd only proves you to be even more of a complete IDIOT and LOSER than I have painted. By all means-keep going!

LMAO!

By the way, congrats on your "victories."

Rewind . . . LMAO!

Yes I am ... born, bred and educated in the UK (apart from 4 years in Japan). Apart from that, however, I have another nationality as well and curently live between London and Cairo (and when I took out the sites I was in Cairo and while I could have used a UK card and my address there, I did not think it important to do so and listed my Cairo one. I did not take out a private registration because I have nothing to hide).

I hate saying this ... I did not come across a single fully legitimate Brit site :( As for the Aussie ones (authentically Australian) ... quite pathetic. UNFORTUNATELY (and it is really killing me to say this), the handful of authentic sites I came across and worked with were American. Several of them mention nothing about writer nationality. They know it's not important. Now - if you are referring to ET, at least it does not demand that writers hide behind false personas, Americanise their names, etc etc ... Look - as far as I am concerned, ET is competition and I definitely do not support it. I will not, however, deny that it is a legitimate company and has stringent hiring standards.


For ET, UKessays and Accredited Writers, I was asked to provide my academic degrees, writing sample and proof of nationality - I sent in proof of both my nationalities :) When it came to EW, Academia-Research, Researchwritingcenter and premium writers (etc), I was asked for nothing! My very first order via Academia-Research was a dissertation (graduate-level accounting) - they assigned it to me even though they had absolutely no proof of my academic qualifications. What does that tell you about the Ukranians?

Yes - you are right about my having to remove the British and American writers only from the site and when it goes live you will find that we will not guarantee nationality but will guarantee excellent English, indistinguishable from that of an educated (well-spoken) native speaker. The one thing we will not do is hire Aussie writers :) Seriously ... Aussie grammar is really a bit "off" ...

As I mentioned Researchwritingcenter up there I want to make one thing clear - throughout my association with them, they never once denied (at least to me) that they were Eastern European and hired foreign-born writers. They proved very honest in their dealings and tend to treat writers well. It is one of the very few non-American companies which checks writers' work before sending it off to the client. Whether or not they are qualified to `check' the work is something else altogether :)

That doesn't answer my question. I was asking you what the companies you mentioned asked you to send them AFTER you got accepted, not before.


Cool... I never commented anything about this though (I think).

Sorry, missed that part. Okay - after I got accepted UKessays asked me to send the following (which I did):

"1) Contract A or B completed
2) Two or more past pieces of academic or written work so we can assess your writing standard.
3) Proof of your academic qualifications such as a scanned copy of Degree Certificate or Transcript.
4) A copy of a piece of personal photo identification for example a scanned copy of Passport, Drivers Licence etc.
5) A copy of a document with your current address displayed, i.e. a utility bill or bank statement from within the last 3 months." (The email they sent me)

They did not ask for anything else

Same thing with Devereaux and Deloitte ... (which I then discovered was part of UkEssays's group of sites).

As for accredited writers, the Director asked for my ID, proof of address and degrees. She did not request a sample of my work but, instead, assigned me a real piece of writing (a lit review chapter) to complete in 7 days. The understanding was that if done well, I get paid for it and be accepted and if it was shoddy, I do not get paid and my application gets rejected. After I sent the writing in, she called me up, said I was accepted and paid me right after. She could have taken the chapter and run (which is a common practice among scammers) but she didn't ... that is what I call honesty

I already mentioned (in a post immediately following one of the ones you quotes, I believe) that the apostrophe is one of my most common typos. Usually, I end up substituting a semi-colon by mistake (the keys are adjacent and the semi-colon is closer to the center of the keyboard). It's also possible that I skip it on occasion, making a common mistake in typing a three letter word that is most often used without an apostrophe. Is this an excuse? No. Should I proofread my posts here? Perhaps, when I am asserting my skill as a writer. But at least I doesn't make the mistakes in grammar that you does.

But when someone who has English as a second language does it, you'll call it another "slip of mind". :p I'll have you know that some of the most common errors committed by ESL authors in the Math books that I've edited for a local company is precisely not placing the apostrophes where they should be.

I'm not dissing your writing skills. I get that they can be typos (that is, you DID try to press the apostrophe key in both occasions but weren't able to somehow) as much as they can be unconscious grammatical errors. My point is, I wasn't the one who readily jumped at the chance to throw a cheap shot at someone who wasn't doing anything to me. So now that I've returned the favor, can we get back to... what did you call it, an intellectual debate? :P


But you live in the UK, don't you? >.< So you're not an off-shore writer for UKessays.

How about ET?

No was not an offshore writer. ET - was offshore as they are in the States. They did ask me to take out a tax identification number, though, and I did.

When I was looking to apply, I read that I needed to submit U.S. IRS forms and so I abandoned the idea of applying altogether. I just viewed their site again today and couldn't find that requirement anymore. However, I did find something else that's a lot more direct.

Mandatory Qualifications (non-negotiable)
* Must be located in the United States, Canada, Great Brtitain, or Australia. (We will not send a check to an address in any other country.)

I guess that ends this debate, yes?

Err.. hey Oxbridge, did ET just spell your homeland's name wrong? o.O

Yes - I concede :( But I am serious - Aussue grammar is horrid!
They did massacre Brititain :)

Are you being serious? "Massacre"? Why would you humor EW_fraudster's childish peck at an obvious TYPO?

It is a typo - definitely - but WB, it still hurts :(

Another thing WB - Chacha is at it again! He is still desperately trying to market his site, direct people his way while claiming he has nothing to do with essaybrunch!

From one of the best essaywriting companies, no less. :)

Hey WB... your post reminds me of a famous cartoon character:

"Oh.. Mighty WB... your employers are in trouble.."

"Here she comes to save DA DEEEEEEEEY!"

Hahaha.. your "feelings" for the company soooo give you up, numskull who needs to brush up on counting numbers (you know, positive integers such as 892..... 89...3. :p).

I'm going to ask him for nutritional facts.




Really? The only reason why I even responded is because I am just sick or your constant posts about ET. Your competitor-driven attacks-based on ZERO evidence-take over every thread! I'm not the only person to question your fascination with ET.

Right.. and if ANY poster would run through everything bad that's ever been said about ET on this message board by ANYONE, he/she would find your ugly head rearing shamelessly and your filthy mouth blabbing some slimy defense for the company most if not all the time. I'm NOT the only person who ever said this.

So, what you're saying is that it's my fault that people keep posting false accusations about ET? I'm just supposed to keep the truth to myself? Sorry-not how I roll. I contribute to ANY and ALL threads in which I see what I know to be lies about ANY site. Is it my fault that there are so many lies posted here about ET? Show me ONE post that I have made involving ET that is not justifiable and true. Again, if the lies stop, I stop. If you stop, I stop.

You lose.

What a bunch of excuses. ^_^ Like I said:


Thank you for agreeing.

As usual, you're a COWARD.

Hey, why don't you post a survey asking people to vote on who wins every debate? What-you don't like surveys any more?

Why do you sound like a broken tape recorder? :p

WB: I want a SURVEY!!! Who's smarter between me and ew?!? Who's more believable?!? Who has greater credibility?!? Who... who.. WHO!?????!!!???

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  Somebody SHUT EW_writer UP!!!
  

Yeah, a picture! Good job-you're a crook, fraudster, thief, deceiver, AND "tech expert."

Moron.

LMAO!

Hey, I hope I did you justice. ^_^ Have a nice day.

In what would do you live in? There is absolutely no way the academicians will support online of work because it defeats the purpose of learning as they envision it. They would sooner trust a writing AI or software tool before accepting essay writers as an academic support tool. We are the necessary wil for the students and that is why they will only recognize our profession when hell freezes over.

The two-party academic winter system is working just fine. The scam v. non- scam is clearly seen, allowing students freedom of choice. This open system already creates a bond between the members of both groups. Actual open affiliation is not needed. It isn't like they need to carry an affiliation card of any sort. The in-fighting among the aforementioned writers is caused by nothing more than competition. Nothing will erase that even if they are grouped by writing abilities. I do not see this group ever banding together for their own good. They simply have too much animosity to overcome.