Distinguish Between Those Writers Who Are Real And Those Who are Fake

Dear Members,

As I was purusing through this site, I noticed that a lot of people have trust issues. The aim of this thread will hopefully offer some constructive advice on the classic signs of a liar and how not to be a pawn in this game of foolery. I want to maintain the fragile integerity of this site and with all your cooperation we will expose those who are scammers. All ideas and accusations are welcome as long as cursing is nonexistant.

I would love to hear from you,

Company Representative

Check your spelling. This has been a consistent mistake.


Thank goodness you've arrived, chipmunk. It's amazing this forum has been around for so long and has managed to help so many without your inspired and knowledgable leadership.


Excellent notion. I'll start. What country are you from, because it's very clear that you're not entirely fluent in English?

That insidious comment is laughable since I have a PhD in English literature and teach journalism at the graduate school level. If your comments were more truthful, we can have an intellectual argument rather than one I believe I had when I was in kindergarten. Improve your writing style, and you will be a winner; continue posting your comments and you are only falling in the trap of making a habit of your sickening style, if that's what you call it.

The dichotomy "real vs. fake" is flawed. A writer is a writer. So it'd be better if you'd start a thread stating "competent vs. incompetent" writer. I say this because there are numerous people in the essay writing industry who claim to be writers; however, many are not as competent as they should be but they still are writers. Also, on this forum we're continually dealing with 'crap' papers, copy-paste product, and so on.

Therefore, it's not logical to contribute to a discussion that leads to a dead-end.

That is simply not true! In my trustworthy, honarable, and respectable opinion, I ardently believe that if you are an incompetant writer such as yourself, you are, in my eyes, a "fake" writer. I hope I made the picture clearer for you.


Being a PhD in English Literature, I do get to see a host of writing styles that I admire and emulate and then there are those that fly in the trash bin; Guess which destination your comments are making in my virtual reality?

I could get a Ph.D. in Mesopotamian literature without being able to speak Sanskrit fluently. You didn't answer the question: what country are you from?


That's a triple redundancy, by my count.


...if you do say so yourself...


You can believe whatever you want. Unfortunately, the way everyone else uses words ends up determining their meaning, so what you personally believe doesn't really count.

Joke of the century!


We do not believe any one of these adjectives is applicable to you. You are a real jester. I am sure you're actually a comedian, right?

Doesn't exist buddy!!


Don't count!!


I do!!


If by everyone else you mean yourself, then go ahead and form your own cult...I'm sure you would get a lot of suckers to join you on your vendetta toward the world!!


It's my side job!!

Let me give you a very honest piece of advice: Make it your full-time job. Trust me you'd earn far more than you have possibly earned up to today. I say this because I see a genuine comedian in you. Comedy, thy name is ChipMunk!

To be honest, I spent about 1.5 seconds contemplating the career path you paved for me, but that's how long I spent...1.5 seconds and no more!!

See! How intelligent you are! You've just spent 1.5 secs and have concluded this or that. This is something rare in human being. Now I am all praise to you. Just give it a try. I see in you the greatest would-be comedian. Don't disappoint the world. Forget writing, English "L"iterature, and EssayScam. Go, get your life-career!

Yes it does, fu*-er.

ane.arch.cam.ac.uk/studies/grad.html

What's the actual title of your Ph.D., by the way? No one simply has a doctorate in "English literature"--there would be an area of emphasis or specific research.


No, I mean everyone else. Everyone else uses the word "fake" to mean "not real;" you are the only person I've heard insist that the word actually means "incompetent." Now, many other ESL students and writers have drawn comparisons between "fake" and "real" writers/companies when they are talking about outright scams versus legitimate companies, but what you seem to be talking about is quality. That's not a fake/real issue.

You really think so???? I'm starting to get a little persuaded by your cogent words...

Yes you are.

Comment by comment, you have become more terse....what will it be next, two words?

I have a PhD in Victorian literature in case you were interested.

No, you don't.

That's closer to something you can get a doctorate in. What was the title of your dissertation/thesis?

It is still a VERY broad area for a PhD. Would you mind letting us the exact area you did your PhD in?

Yes, we're curious to know the title of your dissertation.

I will gladly reveal the title of my dissertaion to all of you but I do feel that I am revealing too much personal information at this point. I want to here what the titles of your dissertations were first!!

After I let you all know, you can then googlescholar me and you will see what true accomplishment and success is all about!!


For all you non-believers here I go--"Epistolary Encounters: Pastiche in Postmodern Victorian Fiction".

That's very interesting. A woman named Kym Brindle wrote a thesis of the exact same title (you can google it yourself). You aren't Ms. Brindle, of course, because you say you teach journalsim and she has only studied and lectured in Creative writing and English Literature.

As an expert in Victorian literature, though, I'm sure you're well acquainted with the Braddon-Lisell controversy. Do you agree that Braddon's works are inferior to Lisell's, or do you think that they are indeed authored by the same person?

Again, I will not reveal any more information regarding myself. You can call me jhon doe....But now your talking my cup of tea....didn't know you were so fluent in victorian literature but if you are we will surely bond whether you are a man, woman, or robot. I feel like I'm in my own literature class but my response would be that THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE BRADDON-LISELL CONTROVERSY YOU FLAMING RETARD!!!! I am a master in victorian literature and there is not a single piece of evidence that you can present me with to prove your integrity.

Please do big boy!!

Also, chipmunk, you know that 1999 novel you supposedly studied and gave conference papers on? What date is featured on the first page of text?

Same comment goes to you!!

IT's not something I've ever seen anything on the Internet about, that's true, but it was a pretty big deal in the undergrad Victorian Lit class I took so I'm kind of surprised you haven't heard of it. Braddon isn't very well known at all but any Victorian lit scholar would know the name; only two works have been attributed to Lissell and many claim they are the work of Braddon. You've seriously never heard of this?

I don't see how content in a book you haven't written is somehow revealing information about yourself. Surely before we, 'dear members', can comfortably talk about scammers, we should feel secure in knowing the original poster is not one. You don't agree?

[quote=pheelyks]You know nothing about victorian literature and if your trying to throw me off....well, keep trying!

i WILL NO LONGER CONDUCT A CONVERSATION WITH ANY OF YOU BUFFOONS. I AM NOW LEAVING THIS SITE AND WILL NEVER RETURN AGAIN. Bye-Bye!!

Have a good life!

Wow, that was easy.

See ya!

Get lost, nut-sucker.

Hey, ChipMunk, it's really sad to see you go. Please accept our heartiest wishes. I am sure you'll not come back. :-p

'PhD in English Literature' (*guffaw).

I'm loving this.

Forgive me; I'm a complete newbie on this site. I was trawling the net as I'm playing with the idea of testing my potential as a professional academic writer at some point and washed up here. I'm currently writing my Masters dissertation so I'm not the competition I hasten to add (not yet anyway). Oh, and I'm not in need of essay writing services either (just thought I'd throw that in for good measure).

Having spent a couple of hours looking at the posts here and on essaychat, it doesn't take more than a couple of active brain cells to differentiate the wheat from the chaff. These forums do the job for you as the vast majority of those promoting themselves as 'good' academic writers can't hang a simple sentence together, let alone spell or apply English grammer and punctuation correctly. They also, like the OP here, reveal themselves pretty quickly when challenged by the qualified.

It's also notable that those who are obviously skilled (the few) are also those most frequently attacked by those who aren't (the many).

No doubt I will now be accused of having a hidden (commercial) agenda. 'Fraid not. I was just passing by.

Thanks for the smiles guys... it was a welcome distraction from my current academic challenge.

From what I've observed so far (I'm also new), there's no animosity between the talented writers despite competing against one another for clients. Only the grammatically challenged who claim to be professionals are targeted for derision for the most part.

I totally agree with you about the forum being a great place to figure out who's the real deal and who's not. Funny how a seemingly boring site like this would attract so many histrionic weirdos.

this is the funniest, and the most addictive place i have recently visited. i am still laughing after reading your post. these guys are absolutely hilarious. but since it is called industry most likely nice piece of chunk is on stake

Yep, I'd noticed :D Serves them right. Professing to be 'professionals' in a medium which blatantly reveals that they're anything but, suggests they're a can short of a six-pack. I'm amazed at the number of people who seem to think that being able to speak English (native or ESL) somehow qualifies them to market themselves as academic writers. It's a very specific skill which, like any other, takes practice to become proficient, and real competence is rare. Kind of explains the number of complaints from (disappointed) customers that flood the web.


See 'can short of a six-pack' :D

I've also noted that some customer expectations seem unrealistically high. That old 'you get what you pay for' applies. I know how long it takes me to put together a decent paper (and, by that, I mean at least a 2.i at undergrad, or 'merit' at Masters level) and I wouldn't shake my tail for some of the rates these cheapo (overseas?) sites offer, and I suspect the same applies ten-fold to the professionals here.


They reel them in and then hang them out to dry. I shouldn't laugh but it's like witnessing a train crash. The noise on the track usually means a train's coming but that's lost on anyone who has never seen a train. (still chuckling)

miki

Thanks for the PM.

I need 15 x posts to reply but will do so when I qualify. I'm ex-US resident so 'multi-lingual' humorous/humourous.

Still a long way to go, I guess.

I doubt I'll make it. You guys are too distracting and the thought of a scurry of Chipmunks bidding for my 'model dissertation' is enough to keep my nose to the grindstone.

Cesca, you can put a message up on essaychat.com so miki can see it and contact you directly.

What accent do you speak with, if I may ask? I find it fascinating how the accents of people who move around a lot sometimes meld together two or more accents. I had a friend from Jamaica, who lived part-time in England, and people in both locations thought she spoke with an accent. It's kind of like that 'you're from everywhere and yet nowhere' thing.

I wish I could claim a transatlantic accent Ishy but when you've spent your entire childhood in one country (the UK in my case) it tends to direct your accent forever. I've moved around a bit - especially in the US - so tend to sometimes use American language form ('I'm sat on the couch' v 'I'm sitting on the sofa', 'trunk' v 'boot', that kind of thing) but the accent is standard British. Having said that, in the US, it's often confused with Australian or Irish. In my experience, little is lost in translation between the various versions of spoken English, although the idioms are a bit different so can sometimes lead to a few (usually hilarious) misunderstandings.

I have a friend whose family left Iran as refugees when she was a child. She was raised in Holland, an undergrad in the USA, and is now an ESL teacher in the UK. Her accent is lovely but difficult to place. She speaks flawless, but slightly foreign-accented, English with a distinctly American intonation.

Given the amazing variety of English idioms and accents, the thing that surprises me is that 'standard' written English is the great language leveller. With the exception of slight differences in spelling between American and English forms, written English (and, by that, I don't mean the 'relaxed' type) is a universal standard. I couldn't tell that you were American, or the nativity of anyone else here who adopts a 'standard English' writing style, unless one of those spelling differences appeared. Same applies when you read anything written by a professional academic.

I've been really interested in reading the posts on this site as there seems to be such tension between native and non-native English speakers. I know several ESL speakers who write 'standard English' as well as, and often better than, natives but (and this seems to be the big differentiator) they have all been educated from an early age using this particular written form. Spoken English (in all its varieties) is of little help to those who wish to write professionally in English in any context, and especially academically - as it's so different and formal compared to the huge variety of spoken versions. It's an accident of birth whether you had access to this type of early education but very difficult to learn/adopt by the time you reach college age.

The issue that doesn't appear to feature as much here (which surprises me) is knowledge of subject. Being able to write standard, academic English is one thing, but what really matters is the writer's knowledge of a subject and his/her ability to comment/narrate/describe/analyse. A well-written paper reveals much more about knowledge of subject than one that is poorly written as it removes ambiguity, and a poorly-written paper which demonstrates subject insight will always be better received than a well-written load of trash.

Also, little is mentioned re: how much work is involved in research. Even if you know your subject well, the particularity of topic for most model papers requires research at anything other than basic undergrad level, and that takes time (lots of time for highest grades and/or highest college levels).

As I said previously, I'm thinking about dipping my toe into the 'professional' waters once I've completed my MA this summer and this site has been very helpful in pointing me toward the reputable agencies. To be honest, they seem to be in the minority and are exclusively US or UK-based, so it's a case of buyer/writer beware. Also, I think that only the very best writers would be able to make a decent income from this (and they are also easily identified here). You write well, have you considered trying this too?

100 % Agreed.

You'd be opening a mine field here if this issue was to become the focus. There's too much vanity going around; you could call it competitive rivalry.