Any experiences with outsourcing an entire PhD dissertation?

Would anybody be so kind as to share experiences of outsourcing an entire doctoral thesis?

Did you split the thesis up in 10 chapters and divide it between various writers or did you prefer to work with one writer?

Did you rewrite big parts of it or just used most of it as delivered?

How realistic is it to ask for doctoral level writing on these websites - I am on an impossible quest for a good writer? Or is this routine business?

I guess "outsource" is too heavy a term to refer to writing a master's thesis. Professional writers do it on a regular basis because it's their job. We have EW writer here who does things so remarkably that no one can even dare to think of.

Never do this for such a high-level project. Source an independent writer whom you can communicate with every night, week, fortnight, etc., Some sites my be legit but their workforce ain't motivated, meaning they don't have the incentive to turn in a good job! Independent writers is the right way to go these days!

If you do that can I ask how you will deal with your Viva ? You would have to do that yourself and can't rely on outsourcing it.

You're such a hypocritical ass.

don't get me wrong, pheelyks. I'm fine with cheating, if it's a short-term thing. there are emergencies, etc. but when it comes to outsourcing an entire dissertation, or, for that matter, an entire college career, I'm not with that at all.

in fact, I've turned down repeat clients for this reason.

now that I've explained, would you care to explain how that makes me hypocritical, or would you like to just keep your foot in your mouth?

as for calling me an ass, it's not my fault that the ESL writers think you're one of them, pheelyks. I hope you don't think that just because I pointed that out, it makes it my fault.


how are you going to feel about yourself once you get out in the real world, having faked the culmination of your training?

My foot's not in your mouth, and you're still a hypocritical ass.

Academic writing is a legit industry. We (and our clients too) are not cheats, we do academic assistance just the same way Creswell et al do! It is only that most of us operate from homes and hotels!

You know that 99% of clients are going to hand in their work as their own so yes it is cheating and the people who supply the work are encouraging cheating

Where's your proof?

You don't need proof. Think logically. If you paid £6000 for a PHD dissertation which is custom written what would you do with it ? No one is going to reword it are they ? They are going to hand it pretending that they did it themselves.

Yeah, proof is for sissies.

Well, that's a debate-winner!


Hilarious. Anyone who pays £6,000 is an absolute m--ron. The average consumer pays less than 1.5% of that amount per order.


I've posted concrete proof that customers write completely new papers and cite the Web site from which they purchased. Where's your proof to the contrary?

Very interesting debate. I obviously know my topic very well but writing 250 pages on the topic is something entirely different. I think I could use the services of a good writer for that. I am willing and able to rewrite some parts if necessary and/or to add to the text. I wonder about the cost of a good thesis, it must be at least 5000 USD (I guess). Checking out my options now...

It's not very difficult to do so. You can inquire of the per page price from a reputable company to see the standard market p/p compensation.

5000US for a 100000 word (i assume) PHD dissertation ? That is less than £3500. I think you may be heading towards a scam site with that kind of budget

Well yes, that is why I was stating *at least* 5000 USD. I can imagine it being much more for a high quality text. On the other hand, even having a few chapters written would help at this stage.

Well it is a 3-5 study I assume so just hang in there and try and work at it yourself until you find someone reliable.

I'm replying to an old post, and will most probably suffer abuse it for it, but here goes anyway.

I have done 1 PhD dissertation - and did not see it as unethical, for the following very simple reason: The student did all the quantitative research, but could not express herself. (This was not Eng Lit, where the ability to use language is integral to the field of study.) I sat with the student, who explained the theoretical framework and the detail of the research, and I simply had to put it all in a coherent whole. Her inability to express herself had nothing to do with the technical aspects of her superb and groundbreaking research in psychometric testing.

So, don't jump in with your negativity.

Ok, ok, I'm waiting to be called anything from retard to ..... (Surprise me!)

You know you will be surprised by the fact that you have made a BLUNDER in your post.

The student could not express herself: fair enough. But, it is horribly unbelievable that she did the MOST important part of the research herself. Yes, it's the first phase of the research that is most important. Usually, and much more often, people have difficulty in the first phase rather than the latter.

So you have proved that you don't know anything about research - let alone stats and PhD thesis.

Oh, I spoke to soon. You are one of the rude ones. Ok, I'm an idiot. Thank you for the enlightenment.

I have not been rude to you at all. I have just commented on your misstatement regarding research. Secondly, you're using this forum against its rules.

My own view as a writer, for what it's worth:

I probably would not accept a job to write someone's dissertation. If the case was like the one linguaga described above, where the client had actually done all of the relevant research and just wasn't able to do the writing well enough by themselves, I might consider it.

In any other case, the pay probably just wouldn't be worth the effort. Term papers, even for graduate courses, tend to be pretty narrowly focused - in the areas of the humanities in which I work, at least. If I'm doing a 10-20 page paper for someone, I'm willing to do an in-depth reading of a few sources, e.g. if the term paper is a critique of a philosophy essay or something that needs really thorough analysis. Or, alternatively, I'm willing to skim 5-10 sources if the paper needs to have limited survey of the relevant literature.

For a dissertation, however, you're pretty much expected to have reviewed *all* of the literature that is relevant to your (narrowly defined) topic. I mean, if you're writing on the impact of the Portuguese language on Lord Byron's rhyme schemes between 1809 and 1811, you're going to be reading virtually everything that has ever been written on that topic. It can be tough to find all of it sometimes.

Even if I'm trying to severely half-a55 the effort, I'm going to be doing an awful, awful lot of research. Far more research per final dissertation page than it would be for a term paper. Now, if you're willing and able to pay a lot (and.. I mean, a LOT), maybe you can find someone who is willing to do the research that is necessary for even a sloppy dissertation. Think of it this way: It varies by subject, but in my own field at least, the dissertation is something you work on for about two years (after having already studied in the field for 2-3+ years at the graduate level). So how long is it going to take someone to write this dissertation for you, assuming they put in at least some minimum effort? And how much would someone with the minimum level of ability required for this expect to earn for that much of their time?

If you're considering hiring a writer, I'd suggest working with someone directly. Essay writing websites take a good chunk of the essay price for themselves. Nothing unfair about this in my view; they're taking care of all the business end so I can focus on the writing. But when it's a very long, involved work like a dissertation, it simply won't be worthwhile for a legitimate writer rate of pay they get through the websites.

What types of research services you are providing?

Hello hmali
Please contact me for a more detailed discussion and possible engagement on the same. It's possible but there has to be a 1-on-1 communication between you and the writer. The whole idea is to think with the same objectives in mind. Thanks:)

You cannot use it as delivered. These are example papers and you just use it as a guide to your own work. It is like Cliffs Notes.

Do you guys really mean business? :-?

When my company receives an order this large, I personally recommend that the client choose his team of writers from my roster. The client is the default team leader who will have complete and total access to all the writers. He is welcome to form the team and have the writers work on his dissertation as he sees fit. I give the client a week to form his team, using varying rates for the writers depending upon their position at the company. The clients tell me that the method works very well for them because, since the advent of Google Docs, they have been able to supervise, merge, and create a solid looking dissertation that appears to have been written by only one person, the client himself.

I've written several dozen of them for US, UK, Australian, and European clients, including two PhD dissertations (with overlapping deadlines) for two totally different PhD degrees for a single client (who left a review on my forum profile page).

I've never needed the slightest bit of help from any other writers, much less from an entire "team" of writers, or from the clients, either. Generally, the reason students (including PhD degree candidates) hire a professional writer in the first place is, precisely, because they want to be able to outsource the entire project. The main reason some clients prefer to remain involved during the process is simply that they don't trust the writer not to screw it up; but if they trust the provider, they'd much rather be able to cross the task entirely off their To Do list and just let the writer deliver their completed dissertations by the deadline promised.

Typically, PhD clients provide much of the source material, together with the detailed dissertation guide distributed by their academic institutions; and then, they pay for an Intro section or for the Literature Review section. Once they're satisfied that I know what I'm doing and that they can trust me to provide exactly what they're expecting, they just pay for the rest of the dissertation and they leave me alone until I deliver the completed dissertation, as promised.

While an entire PhD dissertation can be outsourced to any team of writers or a single writer, depending upon the preference of the client, it is not advisable to have someone else write this sort of paper for you. I realize that a PhD student would be tremendously busy with regards to various course requirements, he must take a keen interest in completing this paper himself. That is because his actual exposure during the course of study will be crucial to the completion of the paper. While a hired writer or pool of writers can be sent information for use in writing, that does not assure you that they will properly understand and use the information. What outsourcing could lead to is a neverending series of revisions and a choppy writing presentation that you may fail to find useful in the end.