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OP Researcher  8 | 310  
Sep 06, 2009 | #41
I don't buy this argument.. I believe excellent writers coupled with effective QAD is the key to success... minor errors in webcopy is just like a placing a rack full of stuff at wrong place... Take example of Windows Vista.. by far it is considered as the most elegant operating system in the world but it failed to deliver and that is why MS is planning to role out Windows 7..

just like a placing a rack

Just like placing a rack

role out

roll out
OxbridgeResearchers  5 | 722 ☆☆  
Sep 06, 2009 | #42
minor errors in webcopy is just like a placing a rack full of stuff at wrong place

and students are supposed to assume that a company which cannot correct its own webcopy will proofread the work it submits to them? We are selling research and language ...
cocklejoe  3 | 115  
Sep 06, 2009 | #43
The thing is, webcopy isn't rocket science. Everyone makes mistakes, but I've set up websites before (not writing ones) and I always go through and check for those mistakes, and fix them. It's called professionalism.
OP Researcher  8 | 310  
Sep 06, 2009 | #44
and students are supposed to assume that a company which cannot correct its own webcopy will proofread the work it submits to them? We are selling research and language

OR.. I think you are missing some points here.. see, a Custom essay writing service, like every other firm, has different sections or deparments which perform their own independent work.. Developing and checking webcopies is mostly the job of marketing department whereas QAD is supposed to do a completely different job... QAD's job is to proofread the work submitted by writers and not the webcopies.. so please do not mix two things together...
OxbridgeResearchers  5 | 722 ☆☆  
Sep 06, 2009 | #45
so please do not mix two things together...

I see where you are coming from and respect your position. However, I seriously believe that prior to a site's going live, the copy should be thoroughly checked and revised by Quality Control. Alternatively, they could hire one of their top writers to do it. It is really not a biggie - they can do it and they SHOULD. If for nothing else, then for pride in their work and respect for the service being offered.
EW_writer  21 | 1981 ☆☆☆  
Sep 06, 2009 | #46
Also just think of it this way, if the site owners had competent writers, don't you think they would have hired one to help with making sure that their webcopy was decent?
OxbridgeResearchers  5 | 722 ☆☆  
Sep 06, 2009 | #47
if the site owners had competent writers, don't you think they would have hired one to help with making sure that their webcopy was decent?

That is it!
OP Researcher  8 | 310  
Sep 06, 2009 | #48
don't you think they would have hired one to help with making sure that their webcopy was decent?

Not neccessarily... What if business is new and owners have no prior interaction with writers?
EW_writer  21 | 1981 ☆☆☆  
Sep 06, 2009 | #49
Err.. the assumption is that the business IS new. If the owners haven't had any interaction with their writers at all, then how can you or they for that matter even claim that they have competent writers? o.O
undertow2  4 | 97  
Sep 06, 2009 | #50
Hey RESEARCHER (roflmao), instead of coming on here and trying to promote your blatant rip-off, why not spend some time sorting out the copy on your site? I'm sure it won't be long before there's some VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE to prove that this is nothing more than a rip-off!
rustyironchains  12 | 696 ☆☆  
Sep 06, 2009 | #51
English is my native language, but I speak a little German-- enough to get by and make myself barely understood (none of my articles are the right gender, I butcher the dative case, etc.) to a German, I look like an idiot.

realizing that I look like an idiot, I try to communicate anyway, and sometimes I can do something like order food, or find a train station.

one thing I will never try to do in German is write articulate marketing copy-- it's because I know that whatever I write will sound clownish, and be riddled with errors. so, I don't do it. it seems reasonable, right?
pheelyks  
Sep 06, 2009 | #52
And why did they launch their site before they are actually able to complete any orders?

a Custom essay writing service, like every other firm, has different sections or departments...

Honestly, it tends to be the scam companies that have extensive "other departments." How many people does it take to make sure a website stays running, and that credit card/paypal processing goes through OK? A team of five administrators--less, if one of them knows what they're doing in several areas--could easily run one of these sites. All that is really needed in marketing is trying to get a higher ranking on search engines--it's not like anyone's taking out ads in a newspaper (like our customers would read one anyway) or starting a direct mail campaign. That's why a lot of the decent sites still have web pages that look (and are) a decade old--little is required in the way of upkeep to ensure that the ACTUAL activities of the company--writing essays--can be performed.
OP Researcher  8 | 310  
Sep 06, 2009 | #53
Hey RESEARCHER (roflmao), instead of coming on here and trying to promote your blatant rip-off

I think we are entering again into same old discussion here....... group of individuals trying to protect their interests and accuse others with childish arguments and make it realize the readers of this forum that they are probably the champs of this industry who know everything... Every site, every company in this industry is rip-off and fraud........ you do an honest investigation and you will find everyone somehow, involved in fraud... no matter bigger or smaller.... so you all loosers...... you suck because you are part of the same fraud too.. do not try to impersonate yourself to be the true champs... I can copy and paste enormous evidence from this forum that indicate that most of you have commercial interests and you are here on a very organized and systematic campaign to accuse others......
chacha421  3 | 329  
Sep 06, 2009 | #54
so, I don't do it. it seems reasonable, right?

you always come up with fu-ki- ideas.... absolutely childish and devoid of any reasonableness of argument.. No one on this forum even know how to argue rationally... everybody is trying to accuse others, pointing fingures to others in a bid to underestimate others... everyone here got commercial interests so please stop your ******** and stop misleading this forum

Honestly, it tends to be the scam companies that have extensive "other departments."

Most UK and US based firms have QAD, Marketing, HRM, General Admin and Finance Departments(May be one man departments) who handle all issues.. so are they scam too?

Having read the discussions here and your blunt accusations, this time of Researcher, I came to realize that my abscence from this forum for few days have allowed people like WB and company to resurface on this forum and start their dirty old tricks again..
WritersBeware  
Sep 06, 2009 | #55
Well, of course both you and chacha would make that claim, considering your horrible writing skills.

by far [Windows Vista] is considered as the most elegant operating system in the world

You just lost all credibility (not that you had any to start). Leopard for Mac absolutely buries Vista. Hell, Leopard can even run Vista simultaneously within its own operating system!

QAD's job is to proofread the work submitted by writers and not the webcopies.. so please do not mix two things together...

Nonsense. By the way-how do you know so much about this site?
pheelyks  
Sep 06, 2009 | #56
absolutely childish and devoid of any reasonableness of argument..

rusty's argument was not only entirely rational, it did not include a single accusation--in a "bid to underestimate others" (whatever that means) or otherwise. He' simply saying that he wouldn't try to write a paper in a language if he isn't fluent in that language.

I came to realize that my abscence from this forum for few days have allowed people like WB and company to resurface on this forum and start their dirty old tricks again..

Your absence from this forum has neither encouraged nor discouraged me personally, and I sincerely doubt it has had a major effect on anyone else either. Keep championing the cause, though, Dorothy. It's important to feel good about yourself.
WritersBeware  
Sep 06, 2009 | #57
Plus, how in the hell are they qualified to judge the skill-level of the writers they hire? I'll tell you how-all of their writers are "PhD" and "Master" writers, as far as advertising is concerned.

VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE

Hahah! Is that an invitation?

it's because I know that whatever I write will sound clownish, and be riddled with errors. so, I don't do it. it seems reasonable, right?

Well, it's reasonable to anyone with a moral compass.

Honestly, it tends to be the scam companies that have extensive "other departments."

Correct. They create non-existent departments to make their sites appear "bigger." In reality, they only make themselves stand out even more as fraudulent.

I came to realize that my abscence from this forum for few days have allowed people like WB

Yes, you are right-I tremble in your presence, and do not dare to post when you are active.

Mouth-breather.
OxbridgeResearchers  5 | 722 ☆☆  
Sep 06, 2009 | #58
you all loosers...... you suck because you are part of the same fraud too..

Name names and post any evidence to support that. Why such blanket accusations? I do not support fraud and don't participate in it and I know that many of my competitors do not either. How do I know? Years-long industry experience and a former writer for several of the sites mentioned here. Some are beyond reproach and others are plain dishonest. Generalisations won't work here ...

you are here on a very organized and systematic compaign to accuse others

No, Researcher and you know that is not true. As you know, most here are competitors; the majority here would not know the other from Adam and interact only on this forum. How can any here organise a campaign?

Chacha421 came here a few days ago and rightly complained about a certain company's treatment of him/her. Do you think s/he sat down with WB or any here to plan that?

If you look at the names of the websites constantly under attack here, you'll find that they boil down to a handful of companies and certainly not all in the industry. Can you honestly say that it is alright for a company to

1) fine writers (let alone unjustifiably so);
2) lie about writers' qualifications;
3) lie about the nationality of their writers;
4) lie about their own country of origin;
5) underpay writers;
6) make ridiculous statements such as "Masterpapers.com is also certified with Certificate of Incorporation (Masterpapers LLC) which means it will prove its high standards, quality, guarantee and safety in new services provision." A company gets certified with a certificate of incorporation! And that certificate is a testament to its high standards and quality?! Give me a break! Most of us have certificates of incorporation and it has no bearing at all on the quality we provide ... it is not a certificate of excellence!

7) How about false claims: "Master Paper has been named the world's finest custom essay and dissertation writing service." By whom? Is that alright?

8) How about gems such as this one: "We were flattered to find out that the world-famous universities have recognized Masterpapers.com as the leading company which provides high-quality academic papers. Masterpapers.com writers have been given the best reward from the outstanding academicians and we really appreciate all of our writers for their hard work and the world-wide recognition." Seriously? Recognised by universities? Rewarded by academicians?

None of the above is ok Researcher and most here recognise that, just as most here know that what we sell is language ... our webcopies should be, at least, acceptable.

As for companies with ridiculous names (warrioressays) ... they are just plain funny. If the world can make fun of Geldof's decision to name his daughters Little Pixie, Fifi Trixibelle, Tiger Lily and Peaches Honeyblossom - then we can make fun of silly site names :)
chacha421  3 | 329  
Sep 06, 2009 | #59
Well, of course both you and chacha would make that claim, considering your horrible writing skills.

What a horrible counter-argument.. readers please decide yourself the IQ level of our great truth and justice seeker...

by far [Windows Vista] is considered as the most elegant operating system in the world

Here is another proof of the IQ level of our great WB... How many PCs in the world run Leopard? Was Leopard rolled out before VISTA? 99% of unbiased readers will agree with Researcher's statement because whole world use MS Windows as OS.... You are knocked out.. By the way how's development work on your site going on? remember? you and OR were planning to operate a new forum like this because few months ago I just knocked you out and exposed your dirty tactics.........

Nonsense. By the way-how do you know so much about this site?

Absolute nonsense from WB again...... Readers please decide yourself.. does the above statement of Researcher indicate anything about meta-essays.com. Above is purely a general statement and look at the response of our great justice seeker........ WB you are making fun of yourself..
OxbridgeResearchers  5 | 722 ☆☆  
Sep 06, 2009 | #60
Researcher - one question: what on earth is one supposed to think of a website which mispells its own url? Look at the Disclaimer at the bottom and you'll see "meta-essaysss." Yes, I know it is a typo but this is ridiculous.

Look at these contradictory claims (I am not going to comment on the language):
"Many students from UK have trusted us for writing their assignments, dissertations, custom coursework etc and became our regular customers because of our guaranteed quality. When you need a dissertation, custom term paper, research reports, and essay writing, just remember that meta-essays.com can offer you professional essay writing services of highest quality at affordable prices. Unlike other custom essay writing services, we provide a money back guarantee for 2:1 standard writing completely backed up by a non-plagiairsm guarantee."

Yet - in their Terms:
1) "Meta-Essays.com does not provide any guarantee for customer's final grade."
2) "Due to the fact that Meta-Essays.com bears high cost on researching and writing a written assignment ordered by customers, Meta-Essays.com will not refund full amount in any case."

These directly conflict with the `promises' published on their Home Page. As a potential customer, am I to understand that they guarantee their quality or not? that they refund customers or not?

Meta-Essays is literally begging for it ...
chacha421  3 | 329  
Sep 06, 2009 | #61
rusty's argument was not only entirely rational, it did not include a single accusation.

That is pure biasness... A looser's argument

Plus, how in the hell are they qualified to judge the skill-level of the writers they hire?

How others are qualified to judge the writers? OR runs her own site, she claims to have a Law degree but does that qualify her to judge the quality of a writer's work who is Msc in Physics? another pathetic argument from WB...

Chacha421 came here a few days ago and rightly complained about a certain company's treatment of him/her

This proves me as a writer as against your and company's earlier attempts to associate me with essaybrunch.. I finally Won OR...

Meta-Essays.com does not provide any guarantee for customer's final grade."

Who on the earth can predict your professor's final assessment of yours? No-one...

Due to the fact that Meta-Essays.com bears high cost on researching and writing a written assignment ordered by customers, Meta-Essays.com will not refund full amount in any case."

This seems to be an standard clause given the fact that fraud (chargebacks, excuses from students just to get their money back and still retain the paper.. and other things like that happens.. I suffered alot due to this because some of my papers were refunded despite the fact that they were written with high standards) so i believe it is justifiable and works as a negative covenant here..

that they refund customers or not?

I strongly believe that everyone company issue refunds to their customers if work delivered is really pathetic...

How about false claims: "Master Paper has been named the world's finest custom essay and dissertation writing service." By whom? Is that alright?

I am not going to comment anything on Master Papers but let me ask you a question? Do you think Wal-Mart is the world's best superstore? or Google is the best search engine in the world? these are subjective claims and are often made after doing small surveys so they do not matter most.. if companies like masterpapers.com are in the market it is because they have constantly served their customers well.. What we all here are assuming that customers are really innocent and non-rational which is not the case.. A customer is best judge of his or her money and knows exactly where to use it to derive value... If they do not order from UK and US sites it is just because they charge them higher and work is approximately of same quality.. writing fancy english does not mean quality of paper is good.. you need a great level of understanding of your subject, your ability to assimilate literature shall be excellent as well as you must know how to translate your ideas on paper.. Having good english writing skills comes after this..

It's important to feel good about yourself.

True... you should have realized this alot before as it would have helped you to come out of your self-assumed limiting behaviors...
rustyironchains  12 | 696 ☆☆  
Sep 06, 2009 | #62
you need a great level of understanding of your subject, your ability to assimilate literature shall be excellent..

as-backwards!
chacha421  3 | 329  
Sep 06, 2009 | #63
Shows kind of person you are....
WritersBeware  
Sep 06, 2009 | #64
How many PCs in the world run Leopard?

You are a mindless idiot. What does market saturation have to do with your moronic buddy's claim about perceived "elegance"?

A looser's argument

What would be a tighter's argument?
chacha421  3 | 329  
Sep 06, 2009 | #65
Who decides what is good or bad? Market I think? take some lessons in Economics my little dirty cheat...
WritersBeware  
Sep 06, 2009 | #66
Hey, caca, why don't you entertain us by providing even the slightest evidence of how I "cheat"? Hurry up, spanky!
pheelyks  
Sep 06, 2009 | #67
I strongly believe that everyone company issue refunds to their customers if work delivered is really pathetic..

You're wrong

Exactly how is it biased to say it would be improper to write an essay for someone else in a language you're not fluent in? If you mean that I'm biased against people who don;t know what they're talking about, guilty as charged.
WritersBeware  
Sep 06, 2009 | #68
Pheelyks, caca's synapses are too wide. Debate is pointless.
pheelyks  
Sep 07, 2009 | #69
I know. It's a great way to let off some steam, though. And it makes me feel smart.
chacha421  3 | 329  
Sep 07, 2009 | #70
Exactly how is it biased to say it would be improper to write an essay for someone else in a language you're not fluent in?

Your statement is a reflection of a looser who can't compete with others and is now engineering excuses to satisfy his ego.. carry on... I can understand your feelings specially in this hard time where customers are preferring more cheaper alternatives than your so called expensive legit US and UK companies.....
pheelyks  
Sep 07, 2009 | #71
Your statement is a reflection of a looser who can't compete with others and is now engineering excuses to satisfy his ego

First of all, it's "loser," loser. Second, I'm not in a competition; I'm a writer, not a marketer, and I have plenty of work right now. Third, I'm not making an excuse for anything. I'm not even sure what you think I;m making an excuse for. Rusty said he doesn't write papers in German because he doesn't speak German well enough. I support his decision. Ich auch eine bissen Deutsch gesprechen, aber ich nicht wollen schreiben...essays...auf Desutch. Any German speaker would be appalled, I am sure, at this sentence. It is pretty damn good (if I do say so myself) for someone who only had a year of formal training in the language a decade ago, but I don't fool myself that I could get paid to write academic essays for someone going to university in Germany.

Here's the thing: I don't even know what mistakes I made in my German sentence, but I can be pretty certain that I made some. That's why I don't write papers in German for pay (or otherwise, for that matter). Can you tell me what mistakes you made here:

I can understand your feelings specially in this hard time where customers are preferring more cheaper alternatives than your so called expensive legit US and UK companies.....

If not, you should stop writing papers for pay in English.
cocklejoe  3 | 115  
Sep 07, 2009 | #72
Jesus Christ, Chacha, you don't actually charge people for your writing services, do you? If you can do it, maybe I should give it a go!
pheelyks  
Sep 07, 2009 | #73
If anyone's curious, what I am trying to say in the above German is: "I also speak a little German, but I will not write...essays [don;t know the German word for essays]...in German."

Jesus Christ, Chacha, you don't actually charge people for your writing services, do you? If you can do it, maybe I should give it a go!

From the caliber of your posts here, I'm actually surprised that you're a customer.
chacha421  3 | 329  
Sep 07, 2009 | #74
From the caliber of your posts here, I'm actually surprised that you're a customer

Unwritten rule of this forum !!!!!!! What our great pheelyks write is perfect english others simply do not know a thing about English.........
I am sure one day our great Pheelyks will claim that he can write better English than Shakespear himself......

for someone who only had a year of formal training in the language a decade ago

I have more than 15 years of formal training in English Language.. so is'nt it sufficient??? as per your standards....

I have plenty of work right now

Yah .. I can see that from number of your posts here... anyone can easily judge how can so busy writer take time to reply on this forum....

You are all loosers (Losers!!!!!) here because you fail to accept the fact that Indians and Pakistani writers are fuc--n your as--s and taking away work from you.. You are now trying to finding reasons to bring back customers to you..........
pheelyks  
Sep 07, 2009 | #75
go **** a cow, chacha
chacha421  3 | 329  
Sep 07, 2009 | #76
Truth is hard to accept....... keep licking your own wounds...




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