plagiarism - what websites are safe?

Ok, I'm not so much worried about the quality of the papers so much as whether or not they are scams...

what websites are safe?

For example, if I get a paper from bestessays ... will it be seen as plagiarism when I hand it in, or will they see it as legit?

When you receive the paper from some writing service (it doesn't matter which) run the paper immediately through one or more of the essay scanning tools. Some of them are known as raptor, viper and so on..... This could give you an indication whether your paper might be plagiarised or genuine.

bye the way, in addition to my previous post, if you plan on using the bestessays, it might be wise to review the threads on this forum on them firstly....

ok, thanks for the answers... I've actually been looking through this site, and the only really legit service seems to be ****... which is wwaaaaayyyy outta my price range :P

I'm thinking a lot of coffee, and a few sleepless nights are in my immediate future

*sigh*...there goes my st. patty's day :P

bestessays.com[DND*] = Ukrainian deception

**** = minor company, and certainly not the only legitimate one

do you know of any that are legit. and in a lower price range?

is there a thread somewhere that ranks the various services?

Recommendations--in any form--are not allowed.

seeing all the bashing that takes place on this site, that seems pretty random...

are there any objective websites that you know of that would provide such a ranking?

Nope. Even if there were, it would be operated by a completely biased owner of an essay site.

could you email me a recommendation per chance?

I've been very busy as of late (student council is such a bloody waste of time), and any help would be much appreciated

ok, thanks anyways

if any1 can help, it would be appreciated

you know, looking around this website, I get the feeling that contrary to what you say, you couldn't care less about the clients, you're just upset about jobs going to people outside of North America & the UK

see, you could easily send an email, and no1 would know, instead you choose to only shout out "scam scam scam" at nearly every link posted.

you *really* need to meet some real people... maybe learn what it takes to be a real person yourself

WesternStudent = moron who obviously can't read simple guidelines and resorts to insults (no wonder he/she needs remedial writing assistance)

Gee... what a shocking response.

Someone who spends all their time discussing essay writing services on the internet has called me a moron, whatever shall I do?

Helping people really feels better than being a dick(or in your case, a *****)... you should try it on for size, provided that sitting in front of a computer screen all day discussing essay writing services allows you to fit into anything other than a moo-moo.

Have a good night (day?).

I am so glad I came back to see if any1 had posted any insightful comments... I really am.

btw, saying which sites are legitimate isn't giving a recommendation... it's stating a fact, which is what you claim to do in all your bashings anyways

Do you care to notice the name of this site? It's "EssayScam.org," not "EssayLegit.org." What you want (a list of "legit" sites) is not here and will never be here.

what do you think helps people more? telling them what sites not to use or telling them what sites to use...

there are a limitless amount of fraudulent sites on the internet, the best way to keep people away from them isn't to name a very finite group of scam sites but to suggest the legitimate sites.

If you really want to stop scams, you direct people to legit sites, as well as warn them about scam fraudulent ones.

I'm gonna go back to my essay now...

I think that the moderator and years-old members know what's best for the forum and the industry.

I'm not too familiar with the policies of this forum, but you seem to have sincere questions, and sincerely need help. Have you considered a tutor to help you organize and write your dissertation?

I know that tutors can be expensive, but there are plenty of resources out there that teach you how to handle large amounts of research and writing. I know of one in particular, but that is because it is the system I used to help me get through graduate school.

It was so effective it's the method I'm using now to try to get work writing articles!

well, I'm over halfway done at this point, with almost exactly 48 hours left to go, and my sister, who has several degrees, editing my work... I recently had a setback that involved a battery running out of juice and a large portion of work not saved... which is kind of annoying, but also means that some of this will get done faster.

I do think that your suggestion is a good one though, with all the money going into my education already, what's another few hundred, eh? :P

As a tutor, I find plagiarism makes me very angry with, and disappointed by, any students who buy or copy other people's work.

However, I think I often have the last laugh. I recently purchased from the internet for a minimal cost - $31 -a copy of a most interesting paper which had been submitted to an academic journal some years ago by two American Ph.D students, who have since gone on to become eminent in their field.

I bought the paper because I was able to search the internet by putting various phrases from my student's work in to Google and find that it was in fact the work of other people. When confronted, the student concerned had no choice other than to admit he had plagiarised, but told me that he had ordered the paper from a 'bespoke' writing service for a sum of hundreds of pounds.

The only differences between the original paper I had and the 'customised' one the student had submitted were that all the references made in the original document had been changed, and my coper was so inexpensive.

So, the message is 'buyer beware!'. Even though most universities have software these days that can detect plagiarism. we tutors are still on the case, and students who do plagiarise often find themselves dismissed from university altogether. Please don't do it, it's so much more fun to learn if you do it by yourself.

Also, I recently looked at the web page of a 'buy your essays here' website and noticed several spelling mistakes on it. That says a lot.

Plagiarism has been the recipient of a lot of attention in academic institutions. Especially, in the current times, it has been given a lot of attention and the consequences of committing plagiarism have become quite severe and extreme. To use someone else's work and just minutely substituting words here and there is not deemed appropriate in majority of the academic institutions.

Couldn't agree more about this behavior.

Well, I'm not at all surprised that you have that biased opinion, considering that I already highlighted your dirty motives and incompetence.

If you are worried about plagiarized papers coming out of the company or writer that you are hiring, then the company that you hired did not instill confidence in you when you read their website. Regardless, you should be able to find writing companies that offer plagiarism reports along with your original paper. These companies are usually the ones who tend to hire 3rd rate writers who will most likely do a sloppy job on your paper, which is why they offer the plagiarism report in the first place. A company that hires reliable writers who truly write model papers from scratch decline to submit plagiarism reports because they have such high regard for the work of their writers and they are absolutely sure that their writers always deliver original papers. Mostly because they do their own private plagiarism checking the minute the paper is submitted and they correct any plagiarism problems that might arise before the final copy is released to the client. Any potential plagiarism problems with the paper are addressed long before you receive the model paper. I suggest that you chat with the company representative before you hire the service so that you can ask the rep about how they can assure you that the paper you will receive is 100% original and not plagiarized.

It is never okay to submit your essay for a plagiarism check with any website. That is because all the websites that offer "free" or even "paid" plagiarism checks keep a copy of your work online for future comparison purposes. So you could submit a paper for a first round of plagiarism checking, then make some edits to the paper, then run it again in the same plagiarism program where it will then appear as "plagiarized" due to the existence of the original, unedited paper in their database.

Nothing on the internet ever comes for free. Remember that simple rule, specially when it comes to plagiarism checkers and you will save yourself a nightmarish experience. Based on the nightmare stories my clients have been telling me, it appears that the writers themselves cause the plagiarism when they do their own checking on the paper to make sure it won't appear plagiarized. Which is precisely why I do not do plagiarism checks for my clients. I tell them not to do it on their own either and leave that job to the professor. That way the possibility of producing a plagiarized paper, when the writer knows nothing in his paper is plagiarized, becomes limited in possibility.

The first bit of advice is not to submit the paper as your own. Second, if you feel you need a starting point or guide for your paper, perhaps purchasing the paper as a reference tool would work. Still, it would depend on the cost. Based on what was asked, though, it seems that you are wanting validation for using someone else's work as your own.

In terms of free plagiarism tools, none that I am aware of accurately catch plagiarism. They may point out a few issues and flag common phrases or titles, but the level of checking needed only comes from the through one's respective university or purchasing a student account through Turnitin. Either way, if you find the essay is not flagged and you use it, you are still plagiarizing and putting yourself at risk of serious consequences when discovered. Further, as @WriteReview stated, these programs keep a copy of submissions in their database. So, just because something shows as original when you check it, the ext check will likely show unoriginal.

If you're having that much difficulty, it would be better to spend that money for tutoring or writing assistance. ;)

It is never easy to assess the legitimacy of a writing company. So if you are asking for specific website references to safe academic writing sources, then you are asking us to help you find a needle in a haystack. You never know if the company actually had the writer develop an original paper for you or, if the writer was merely instructed to paraphrase an already existing paper for you to use. Playing the safe game in terms of plagiarism can only be done if you directly hire an independent writer and have him work on the fresh paper for you. That, I can guarantee you, will be the best way to avoid and plagiarism problems with your paper. Never hire a writing company with reservations. Never hire a writing company you cannot vet. Always hire an independent writer when you can. That is, in my opinion, the best way to avoid any plagiarism problems with your paper.

It's not really any more difficult to identify a legitimate (and good) essay provider than it is to identify a good restaurant: in both cases, you read what previous customers have had to say about them and, based on your reading, you try out one of them at minimal cost. You wouldn't book a restaurant venue for an expensive or important event without trying out the place for a snack or a small meal for one or two people, first. The same holds true for essay providers: you simply pick one based on your reading and you order a very small project of a few pages (or even just one or two pages) for a relatively unimportant project with a long deadline.

You can narrow down your list of candidates very quickly through your initial reading, but you can't really know what you're going to get until you actually place an order. When it comes to ordering from companies (vs. freelance writers), your test project may not be as helpful in that process, because you also have to consider that they have hundreds of writers who vary tremendously in talent, experience, ability, and (more often than not), in their language of origin. Still, the small test project will allow you to confirm that the entity you're testing does, in fact, deliver a product when you place an order.

When it comes to restaurants, you would start your research reading published restaurant reviews and Yelp comments from real customers. There aren't really any disinterested and independent reviews published about this industry; however, since you're already on this forum, you definitely can (and should) use the search function here to familiarize yourself with the reputations of essay providers dating back to their first appearance on this forum. To do that effectively, you always have to change the default "Topic Titles" to "Messages" to generate useful results. In some cases, there are also review threads here with comments from actual clients on this forum. Depending (mainly) on how old those comments are, you can even contact some of those clients through the messaging system here. Some of us have been here for well over a decade with only very positive comments from real customers who have chosen to leave comments about our work. Let me suggest that it would be just about impossible for a writer to exist on this forum under the same ID for a decade or more while delivering plagiarized content without complaints from customers.

By the time you've gone through that initial vetting process, you'll likely be able to narrow down your search quite effectively, already. If you also remember that cheap restaurants and essay providers are almost never going to be as good as relatively expensive restaurants and essay providers, you have a very good chance of finding the right writer for the rest of your academic career just by ordering that first two-page essay as your test project. If you really want to keep the expense of your test to a minimum, just skip the test of the cheapest providers you can find instead of wasting your money on them before trying out someone at the higher end of the price spectrum. Don't order a whole project from a cheap provider as a test; order one or two pages from the provider who is probably most likely to deliver work of very high quality.

It is an unspoken assumption that almost all writing companies are seen as problematic in terms of customer service and paper quality, aside from their image of being blackmailers. While we are not allowed to endorse any company at this forum and a Do Not Discuss list exists because the companies do not wish to be mentioned in connection with anything within the threads, I can say that you might have better luck finding a safe independent writer instead. They are the ones that normally carry out stress free dealings with their clients both old and new.

Agreed. The most important part of that is identifying "safe" independent writers. Start by reviewing long-term posting histories on forums such as this one and then make sure that any writer being considered is also willing to furnish his real ID and location and that all of the information provided in that regard is also capable of being verified completely independently on your end, such as through public-information databases, official government websites, etc.