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if you purchased a paper online and you got scammed


andrews41  1 | 7  
Jul 24, 2009 | #1
hey everyone - if you purchased a paper online and you got scammed, any interest in striking back?

i work for a major international news organization and we're looking to speak with someone who can share their experience of buying an essay.

if you're interested, email me at bandol23@yahoo
stu4  21 | 856 ☆☆   Observer
Jul 24, 2009 | #2
and you got scammed

looking to speak with someone who can share their experience of buying an essay.

So you seek sensation, not an objective opinion. Why do you want to talk only to those who "got scammed"? Why not to those who are genuine clients who ordered model research to help them write their own paper?

Yet another "journalist" who lives off sensations and gossip, not the actual facts.....
OP andrews41  1 | 7  
Jul 24, 2009 | #3
well, what i have gathered - from reading many posts in this thread and from our investigation of essay mills - is that many people have been screwed over by these sites. what i seek is someone who is willing to share their experience of being scammed - an experience that would seem to represent a larger trend.

but i would certaintly be interested in speaking with a "genuine client" as well...

send me an email:

amintern@turner.com

or - if you prefer - you can contact my producer directly. he is a senior producer for american morning.

212-275-7816

we produce stories for a cnn correspondent
stu4  21 | 856 ☆☆   Observer
Jul 24, 2009 | #4
I would give you an advice - in your reports you can completely forget about what this individual wrote because all his posts have one agenda - to discredit his "foreign" competitors so that his own website that is losing ground could stay on top.

There are many both foreign and American websites that provide model research services to their clients and maybe 5% are not legitimate. I don't see essay writing business anything more 'screwed' than any other business, like translation or freelance writing. I have seen many more scammers in the translation or freelance programming business.
undertow2  4 | 97  
Jul 24, 2009 | #5
I think you'll find it gets very political around here, but it's usually pretty obvious who's who and what everyone's agenda is :)
DodgingTheMud  1 | 19  
Jul 24, 2009 | #6
I believe it might be hard to find anyone without a guarantee of anonymity. It would seem a majority of the people using the service would be students who do not want their school finding out that their work might not have been original.

I work in a field that is not known for creating writers and I have tried to use one of these services to proofread my work. The quality I got back was horrid so, I am here now. I read the forums and listen to the stories. That has told me more about the industry than I have really wanted to know.

My advice is to order a paper that looks like it would be a true academic paper and send it to a few services. This would tell you what you want to know.
undertow2  4 | 97  
Jul 24, 2009 | #7
My advice is to order a paper that looks like it would be a true academic paper and send it to a few services. This would tell you what you want to know.

I agree. It would be very interesting to read an impartial review of some of the more (in)famous names...
stu4  21 | 856 ☆☆   Observer
Jul 24, 2009 | #8
I disagree. Because 99% of all essay writers are FREELANCE WRITERS who work as contractors. They are not the employees, they are contractors. And if your paper is assigned to a poor contractor then you have bad luck.
DodgingTheMud  1 | 19  
Jul 24, 2009 | #9
Reading in another post, someone indicatred that the investigation should be centered on essaywriters.net. I would disagree that it should focus on one particular service. I would actually select 3 services. I would try to ensure that the services were not inter affiliated. I would also try to ensure that a "proven" english first language and a "proven" english second language service were investigated. The third could be a wild card and would most likely be used to create the intended inference the authors want to imply
rustyironchains  12 | 696 ☆☆  
Jul 25, 2009 | #10
they should go in with a film crew and film when we take control of the company's local mafia rivals, and use them to drive a forklift through their offices.
OP andrews41  1 | 7  
Jul 28, 2009 | #11
Jul 28, 09, 09:33AM - Attached on merging:
CNN is looking to speak with a student...

Hello everyone,

I'm sure most of you have seen some of our posts over the past couple of days.

I work for a producer at CNN and we are putting together an investigative piece on essay mills. I have been in contact with a couple of people already but we are looking for more stories, more accounts, and more experiences.

Specifically, we are looking to speak to a student who has used the services of an essay mill to complete an assignment. Since we'd like to eventually speak to someone on camera, logistically, it would be preferable if the student lived in the US (the story is for AMERICAN Morning).

But no matter where you're from, we'd love to get your story. This issue is truly a global one. PLEASE post back and let me know if you would be willing to speak with us.

I can assure you that this is legitimate.

I can be reached by email at: amintern@turner.com. Or you can contact my producer directly by phone at 212-275-7816.

Thanks.
stu4  21 | 856 ☆☆   Observer
Jul 28, 2009 | #12
Now I think you won't do anyone a favor with your news. You're probably going to put 'essay mills' sites and their customers in a wrong and bad perspective based on the legends and paranoia of some people (otherwise why you would like to speak to those who 'got scammed' only? - that's what you originally posted).

Besides, how are you going to prove some students were 'scammed' since they could contact their card company (and they do) and if they didn't receive the paper or paper was plagiarized they would get a refund? If someone hasn't received a product or service as promised there are easy ways to deal with that and the customer/student doesn't risk anything. Unless you plan to only focus on the 3%-5% of those who for some reason cannot get their money back, but 5% is probably a standard in any industry.

Students should know that if they 'strike back' they risk legitimate essay and model research websites go underground and the prices will only sky rocket then. They also risk their academic careers because TV news are here to bring excitement and entertainment for others (so if a professor recoginzes you on TV you risk being expelled - even though you legitimately used the essay as a model research to start writing your own essay). But then when you contact reporters about that they won't even care to reply because why would they care? They only seek controversial topics and people; when you are a regular student who needs model research then you are no good for TV or a featured story.
OP andrews41  1 | 7  
Jul 28, 2009 | #13
We are not attempting to vilify anyone or anything.

We are hoping to speak to student so that we can learn about his/her experience, good or bad.
rustyironchains  12 | 696 ☆☆  
Jul 28, 2009 | #14
a journalist is nothing but a hyena-baiting purveyor of **** imho.
cocklejoe  3 | 115  
Jul 28, 2009 | #15
So what does that make someone who writers students' essay for them?
WritersBeware  
Jul 28, 2009 | #16
Mr./Ms. Andrews,

It's probably quite obvious to you by now that stu4 from essaywriters.net is overtly defensive because he is deathly afraid of what you and CNN will rightfully reveal about his egregiously deceptive "business" in Ukraine. He and his fraudulent pals attack me for the very same reason. They like to keep their devious activities "quiet."

essaywriters.net has been deceiving, defrauding, and breaking laws for many years (a particular search in Google provides ample proof from hundreds-if not thousands-of victimized students and freelance writers). Your investigation is long overdue. Keep up the good work.
rustyironchains  12 | 696 ☆☆  
Jul 28, 2009 | #17
joe-- a know-it-all, hack, or, if you prefer, "pet nerd."
undertow2  4 | 97  
Jul 28, 2009 | #18
It's probably quite obvious to you by now that stu4 from EssayWriters is overtly defensive because he is deathly afraid.

WB's right, Agent Andrews. Better get on a plane to Ukraine if you really want to get to the heart of all this.

Btw, rustyironchains, what are you babbling on about? Sucked the wrong end of the pen again?
OP andrews41  1 | 7  
Jul 29, 2009 | #20
Hello all-

Some of you might have seen my previous posts. I work for CNN and we're putting together a story on essay mills.

We have been able to contact a few writers who work - or have worked - for some of the essay companies but we are still looking for a student who has purchased a paper.

If you are a student and you are willing to share your experience of purchasing a paper with us, good or bad, we would love to speak with you. We can guarantee 100% anonymity.

Email amintern@turner.com if you are interested.

Thanks.
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
May 29, 2021 | #21
we produce stories for a cnn correspondent

Shouldn't the correspondent be the one seeking out and interviewing sources then? Something doesn't seem right about this. The again, if CNN outsources to a correspondent, who then outsources the job , that explains a great deal about the demise of factual journalism at that cable news network. It would appear that nobody really knows what is going on over there. Too much outsourcing going on.
noted  10 | 2064 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Sep 30, 2021 | #22
Students who get scammed online would not want to re-live the nightmare among their friends. All the more they would not entrust their story to a stranger out fora scoop. That interview would actually be the best way to call attention to themselves. One never knows when a member of the faculty might be watching and recognize a particular student based on the narration presented. If one is worried about academic honesty charges, he will never participate in such an exercise. He would keep it a secret, forget about it, and hope no one else ever finds out about it.
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