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USA Essays - one of these sites?



PatsFan  1 | 7  
Oct 24, 2010 | #1
I was wondering if anyone had any experience with USA Essays?

I recently placed an order for an important thesis paper with them and cannot really find out whether my money ($270) was well spent or wasted. They still have a week to get it to me, but the fact that they don't allow you to contact the writer makes me nervous. I know it is not a scam, because I had a friend get a really good paper from them. The writing coordinator "Jason" has been good and seems decent and real enough. I've used a variety of writing sites in the past, but never really found that one consistently good site. My big thing is that I NEED a writer that can at least speak English and write it. I know a lot of sites simply outsource to non-English speakers--I've gotten those papers before. I really hope "USA Essays" is not one of these sites, but I have no idea. I investigated and they claim they are "all-American," have American phone numbers, and I found that they have a few social networking things which seem legit. I just don't want to spend the next week worrying about this, but I haven't been able to find anything about them on the forum. I've been burned by other sites before, and just need a little reassurance from people that might know.

So, please, let me know if and what you know about them. Any reply is greatly appreciated!
WritersBeware  
Oct 24, 2010 | #2
It would help if you were to post the domain name.
OP PatsFan  1 | 7  
Oct 24, 2010 | #3
Sorry, the address is: usaessays.com
WritersBeware  
Oct 24, 2010 | #4
From usaessays.com/why-usa-essays.html:
The versatile USA Essays writing staff can take on virtually any writing job with ease, and have written thousands of academic projects.

How is that possible for a company that wasn't formed until August 27, 2010?

American Freelance, LLC

How did the company accept payment for those "thousands" of orders (in less than two months) if its PayPal account wasn't verified until September 7, 2010?

American Freelance, LLC

From usaessays.com/why-usa-essays.html:
USA Essays refuses to take part in anything underhanded or fraudulent.

Really? This evidence suggests otherwise.
OP PatsFan  1 | 7  
Oct 24, 2010 | #5
Thanks for that. At least they're American. How did you find that info, and is there any way that anyone can access it? This could make things a lot easier when investigating writing companies or any online companies. Or, if it's a trade secret, I understand.
WritersBeware  
Oct 24, 2010 | #6
At least they're American.

Being American, in and of itself, does not mean that the company is incapable of deception. What it does mean, however, is that the company and its owners are 100% bound by-and vulnerable to-American law and legal prosecution in the United States.
OP PatsFan  1 | 7  
Oct 24, 2010 | #7
I'm going to ask them about some of the things you bring up.

How is that possible for a company that wasn't formed until August 27, 2010?

You're right--they are a new company. They were looking for writers on their blog in September: usaessaysblog.blogspot.com

All their other social networking seems relatively new, too. To be honest, none of this bothers me, as long as they provide legit work. They did for my friend, and I'm hoping for the same for me. Some of the companies I went to in the past had been around for years, had fancy websites, and were basically scams. I hope this is not.

I just sent an inquiry to their customer support to ask them about the "thousands of projects" claim and will let you know when they respond.
WritersBeware  
Oct 24, 2010 | #8
I just sent an inquiry to their customer support to ask them about the "thousands of projects" claim.

I already have a pretty good idea as to what they are going to tell you.
OP PatsFan  1 | 7  
Oct 24, 2010 | #9
Still waiting...

Any guesses?

Just got a response:

"Hi Todd,

Thanks, for your inquiry. While USA Essays was formed just a few months ago, the writers that work for us have been writing professionally for years. Our core of writers comes with a collective decades-worth of experience writing academically and professionally; they have published articles, served as ghostwriters, written content for numerous websites, technical manuals, and produced work in every other facet of professional writing imaginable. All tolled, they have written thousands of projects in their professional careers, and we hope that they will produce thousands more as writers with USA Essays.

I hope this helps clear things up a bit, and I apologize for any confusion; our intention was never to claim that USA Essays has written thousands of projects, only the contract writers that work for us. Our writers are and will continue to be the key to our success. As a young company, we hope to build our reputation on honesty, integrity, and quality writing. Rest assured that every one of our writers is amply qualified for any project we are fortunate enough to handle, and we truly appreciate business from clients like you. For more information on our writing staff, please visit our "Current Writers" page.

As for your project, it will be delivered as promised by 11:59PM EST on October 31, 2010. If you have any questions or concerns, as always, feel free to contact Customer Support anytime via email or call our toll-free number.

Thank you,

Jason"

Seems pretty straightforward. I guess it makes sense. Their writers have written thousands of projects, and that's what they said. I actually feel more confident in the company than I did when I stumbled onto this forum. I would rather have a small up-and-coming company that actually responds to me working on my projects than some of the bigger ones that don't. I will definitely let you know how the paper comes out. Thanks for all your help! Time to watch some football!
WritersBeware  
Oct 24, 2010 | #10
Just what I anticipated . . . .

That is fraud. The company may not misrepresent the writers' "collective" experience as the experience of the company itself. If the writers did not gain that experience while writing specifically for "USA Essays" and using the systems and guidelines of "USA Essays," their purported experience my not be attributed to the "USA Essays" company. This is a clear case of a brand new company trying to unfairly compare itself to the old, established companies.

I'd also like to see the company's proof that its writers have "decades of collective experience" and written "thousands" of projects.
EW_writer  21 | 1981 ☆☆☆  
Oct 24, 2010 | #11
Making things up as you go along again, I see. ^___^

I know it is not a scam, because I had a friend get a really good paper from them.

Dude, if your friend really did get a good paper, then you'd have waited the week before posting here.
OP PatsFan  1 | 7  
Oct 24, 2010 | #12
I don't know, WritersBeware--I have to disagree with you. I understand what they mean and don't really mind how they describe their writers' experience--it's not like the writers don't have experience just because it wasn't all with the company. I really have no problem with that once they explained it. I guess I got a little paranoid by your initial response to my question. It's not really important to me anyway--I placed an order because of a word-of-mouth recommendation not what their website said. How are they really supposed to describe their writers anyhow? Inexperienced? I mean, one of their writers "Pete" is described as this: "During forty years of university-level teaching, he has prepared about twenty-five different course syllabi; he has also taught basic speech courses. Pete's publication credits include three textbooks on media writing, several biographical and topical essays, and trade press and general audience articles." Doesn't that experience count as writing experience? I really think you're just wrong about how to look at it.

I guess I was a little insecure and came here to find out more about the company and to poke holes in it as much as possible. But, the whole support staff has actually been nothing but cordial and helpful to me, and I've emailed them at least ten times in the past few days with questions just to make sure it's legit. At first, I was totally with you, but I'm not about to call a company a fraud for no real reason. Plus, I really don't think they are now.

EW Writer, I put my order in Friday and guess I got the whole buyer's remorse thing, or really just buyer's anxiety. I really just wanted reassurance or to know if I should take action. If it is a scam, I not only want to know and get my money back, but know so I can make other arrangements for the paper. I never even knew this forum existed until I added the word "scam" to the website's name when I did a search today. This is the first time I've gone with a smaller writing company, but I've had very mixed experiences with others, so I figured why not. Other than the good customer service and my friend's recommendation, I have nothing to evaluate it yet. This is why I am here asking around.

I do have to say that this is a very interesting forum. A lot of what's here seems to be a few angry, paranoid, and snarky writers bashing each other. There's some really good help here and there, but a lot of "look how clever I am" defensiveness going on. I guess that's all forums. Either way, thanks for the replies and I really do feel a lot better about my order.

PS I hope everyone got to see the Patriots beat the Chargers just now! Go Pats!
WritersBeware  
Oct 24, 2010 | #13
Dude, if your friend really did get a good paper, then you'd have waited the week before posting here.

I actually agree with the crook here. I tried not to pass judgment on you, but at this point, I believe that you are either affiliated with the company or are Jason Costa carrying on a conversation with yourself. I take this position for a few reasons:

1. you are just a little too defensive and insistent to be a detached, impartial visitor to usaessays.com;

2. your writing style is a little too similar to that of Jason Costa;

3. you claim in another thread to have ordered a paper from essaywriters.net, but essaywriters.net does not sell directly to customers and does not even have an order form;

4. your writing skills tell me that you do not need to hire anyone to write for you.
OP PatsFan  1 | 7  
Oct 24, 2010 | #14
WritersBeware, thank you for trying not to pass judgment. I know it must have been hard for you.

Criminy, when you responded I read some of your other posts and you are by far the snarkiest one on this forum. I'm surprised you didn't start insulting me immediately, like you seem to do with anyone that needs help, doesn't know the forum rules by the letter, or makes a typo. I don't know whether to be honored or insulted by your responses. I don't need writing help, but need time in between my two jobs and going to school. I guess I did get a little defensive because you come off as so snarky and really said nothing but I was wasting my money and being defrauded. Done.

And, it was essaywriters.com.
EW_writer  21 | 1981 ☆☆☆  
Oct 24, 2010 | #15
F off.

LOL!!! Afraid I'll elaborate like I did on your other wild imaginings and club you silly with your own statements again? :p

EW Writer, I put my order in Friday and guess I got the whole buyer's remorse thing, or really just buyer's anxiety.

Well in any case, it should just be clear to readers that all of the opinions that you've given about usaessays.com are questionable. If you're really just here to soothe your buyer's worries then I wish you the best of luck, but I'm sure you won't mind me saying that for all intents and purposes, buyers should not trust anything that you have to say about usaessays.com.

WritersBeware, thank you for trying not to pass judgment. I know it must have been hard for you.

On the other hand, these opinions are very valid. ^____^
WritersBeware  
Oct 24, 2010 | #16
LOL!!! Afraid I'll elaborate like I did on your other wild imaginings and club you silly with your own statements again? :p

Go for it. Try to prove incorrect anything that I have stated in this thread. Show everyone how you use your personal propaganda against me to take every thread off-topic.

you are by far the snarkiest one on this forum

You're just mad because your cover got blown. You didn't expect anyone to post the type of evidence that I did. You got caught. Blame yourself, not me.
EW_writer  21 | 1981 ☆☆☆  
Oct 24, 2010 | #17
Show everyone how you use your personal propaganda against me to take every thread off-topic.

Off-topic? Not at all.

If the writers did not gain that experience while writing specifically for "USA Essays" and using the systems and guidelines of "USA Essays," their purported experience my not be attributed to the "USA Essays" company.

If a law firm just started out but hired 100 seasoned lawyers (legally) from various established law firms, is there a law stopping that firm from claiming that its legal team has extensive experience? No.

See? Whacked you with your own line... again. ^___^

You're just mad because your cover got blown. You didn't expect anyone to post the type of evidence that I did. You got caught. Blame yourself, not me.

See that's the funny part. It wasn't you who brought up the idea that PatsFan was a promoter, yet it's you who got all the "credit." LOL!!! Oh, and don't make us laugh any harder by claiming that it was because of the "type of evidence" that you posted. The only thing there that could have been substantial was PatsFan's alleged claim of ordering from essaywriters.net, and he/she kicked your a** with it.

And, it was essaywriters.com.

Major  35 | 1449 ☆☆  
Oct 24, 2010 | #18
I actually agree with the crook here.

Me too, it's clear as a day now. We can conclude "PatsFan" is the founder/writer of "USA Essays" trying to shill his services here.
stu4  21 | 856 ☆☆   Observer
Oct 24, 2010 | #19
The company may not misrepresent the writers' "collective" experience as the experience of the company itself.

I agree with that! Exactly the same misinterpretation like some other "American" companies do, by announcing to the unsuspected customers:

"We've Been Online Since 1990, Longer than Any of Our Competitors!"

(adding a small note that the fuss is just about the fact that one of their domains happened to be bought or taken over in 1990, but between 1990-2010 the domain had completely nothing to do with the parent company)

The more we know about some of the "American companies" and their misinterpretations, the worse it gets. The plot thickens. Good job here, WB.
WritersBeware  
Oct 24, 2010 | #20
that its legal team has extensive experience? No.

No, but only IF the law firm acknowledges that it is, indeed, new and the "experience" that it offers is the experience of outside lawyers that it only recently brought into the new company. I'm sorry, but if I'm in a legal bind, I don't want to hire a brand new law firm (regardless of how much previous experience it claims to bring to the table), simply because I need to be confident that it has its internal ducks in a row. If a law firm advertises that it has "50 years of experience," but I find out later that it's a brand new company that has one retired, 75-year-old attorney who offers his 50 years of experience to newbies in an "advisor" capacity, you're damn right I'm going to be pissed!

"We've Been Online Since 1990, Longer than Any of Our Competitors!"

Why don't you have the balls to name the site, stuPID4 (Yuri)?

The only thing there that could have been substantial was PatsFan's alleged claim of ordering from essaywriters.net, and he/she kicked your a** with it

Yeah, he totally "kicked my ass with it" by backtracking and claiming that it was ".com" after the fact. You're an absolute idiot:

I don't know--I've used three writing sites (Essaywriters.net, Elephant Essays, and Custom Papers)

Just shut up and stop trying to ruin every thread with your personal vendetta.
EW_writer  21 | 1981 ☆☆☆  
Oct 24, 2010 | #21
If a law firm just started out but hired 100 seasoned lawyers (legally) from various established law firms, is there a law stopping that firm from claiming that its legal team has extensive experience?

No,

End of story. Whether or not the company claims to be new or established is another matter that is separate from the issue of whether or not it can advertise the strength of its writing staff based on the collective experience of the writers it hired. We're just talking about usaessays.com's statement that:

The versatile USA Essays writing staff can take on virtually any writing job with ease, and have written thousands of academic projects.

The fact is, IF the company did hire a pool of highly experienced writers, they have a right to advertise that their staff are highly experienced. It doesn't matter whether or not the company itself is young unless and until the company advertises that it isn't.

So like I said:

See? Whacked you with your own line... again. ^___^

Disclaimer: I'm NOT saying the people should believe that usaessays.com actually does have a well-experienced writing staff whose members have collectively written "thousands of academic projects." It is very likely that PatsFan is a writer of usaessays.com who's pretending to be a customer.
WritersBeware  
Oct 25, 2010 | #22
The vast majority of non-insiders (i.e., potential customers) who read the copy of that site will be falsely led to believe that the SITE/COMPANY itself has produced "thousands of academic projects" because-at the time of my postings-nowhere on the site does the owner communicate what he communicated in this thread:

While USA Essays was formed just a few months ago, the writers that work for us have been writing professionally for years.

That clarification makes all the difference in the world. If the site had contained such clarification when I checked it, I never would have posted the contradicting evidence.
EW_writer  21 | 1981 ☆☆☆  
Oct 25, 2010 | #23
That's you're stupid assumption. ^__^ The point is, a company that advertised the way usaessays.com did has no legal liability as long as they really did hire a pool of competent writers. Like I said in my first comment, you were...

If a law firm advertises that it has "50 years of experience," but I find out later that it's a brand new company that has one retired, 75-year-old attorney who offers his 50 years of experience to newbies in an "advisor" capacity,

Yet ANOTHER stupid, meaningless analogy. Unless you have proof that usaessays.com only has one phD holder working for them in an "advisor" capacity, your analogy doesn't mean squat.

Love it when you get all defensive. You just end up making it worse for yourself, though. The point is that your focus on usaessay.com's age is worthless. The main question here is whether or not they do actually have the pool of experienced writers that they boast about on their site.
WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Oct 25, 2010 | #24
"We've Been Online Since 1990, Longer than Any of Our Competitors!"

Seriously, Stewie, we both know that the company you are referring to is not making any false claims (as you are insinuating). They are amongst the industry's founders (in its online format).

Do you really want to get into the `false claims' argument? :)
stu4  21 | 856 ☆☆   Observer
Oct 25, 2010 | #25
Do you really want to get into the `false claims' argument? :)

Its like I bought a collection car that was manufactured in 1920 and after that claimed that "I've been a car owner since 1920". That's what some "American" website claims.

Enough said about 'false claims' argument. False advertising in the face.
WritersBeware  
Oct 25, 2010 | #26
That's you're stupid assumption.

So you are claiming otherwise? Yeah, good luck with that, Margaret (johnny_outsmart at EB).
EW_writer  21 | 1981 ☆☆☆  
Oct 25, 2010 | #27
So you are claiming otherwise?

I'm claiming that it doesn't matter whether or not the experience is attributed to the company or its writers, as long as the company actually does have the experienced pool of writers that it claims to have. It's not like it's going to be the company who'll be doing the writing, moron. It'll be its WRITERS. LOL!!!! :p

You really LOVE getting your a** kicked, don't you? ^___^

(johnny_outsmart at EB).

I deny that I am johnny_outsmart (essaybay's best writer). Clients should not contact me thinking that I am johnny_outsmart. ^___^
WritersBeware  
Oct 25, 2010 | #28
I deny that I am johnny_outsmart (essaybay's best writer).

Gee, I wonder why you never neglect to opine that johnny_outsmart is "essaybay's best writer." Just as your original denial that you are Margaret was translucent, so is your latest deception.

I'm claiming that [sidestepping nonsense] . . . .

You know damn well that I was referring to MY claim:. . . to which you ignorantly responded:

That's you're stupid assumption. ^__^

Really? It's just an "assumption"?

Oh, and shouldn't you be repeating that I only "throw dirt" at foreign sites/companies? What happened to that?
EW_writer  21 | 1981 ☆☆☆  
Oct 26, 2010 | #29
You know damn well that I was referring to MY claim:

Yes, I do. I'm saying that your claim is irrelevant to the issue. It DOESN'T MATTER whether or not people will associate the experience of a company's writers with the company itself. Its the writers who write the essays, not the company management. If a company which was founded two days ago hired 200 experienced writers yesterday and advertised today that their writing staff is highly experienced, they wouldn't be doing ANYTHING wrong.

Still can't get that through your thick skull? Sucks to be you, always. :p

Gee, I wonder why you never neglect to opine that johnny_outsmart is "essaybay's best writer." Just as your original denial that you are Margaret was translucent, so is your latest deception.

Oh, the reason is quite simple (not simple enough for you, I guess). Not everyone here is aware of who those two people that you're accusing me to be are. When a person say A is accused of being person B, it is usually because person B is someone who is known to be deplorable or incompetent. I just want to make it clear that that is NOT the case when it comes to your accusations.

johnny_outsmart was essaybay's most successful writer when it was still fully operational

and according to you, Margaret is a native English speaker posing as a highly competent ESL writer.

If you care to disagree, then I invite you to show proof like I invited you to show proof that I'd been at all frantic about your (haha!!!) expose. >.<

It serves my purpose to admit that I am this Margaret so sure, I am. Heck like I said, I've been getting more action from this site because of it. However, I'm not a jerk who'd admit to being johnny_outsmart (and get even more direct clients because of it) just to get whoever he/she really is kicked out of essaybay (if it ever comes back on line again).
WritersBeware  
Oct 26, 2010 | #30
Why do you have such an overwhelming aversion to honesty, forthrightness, and full disclosure?

Oh, and shouldn't you be repeating that I only "throw dirt" at foreign sites/companies? What happened to that?

EW_writer  21 | 1981 ☆☆☆  
Oct 26, 2010 | #31
simply because I need to be confident that it has its internal ducks in a row.

Oh please, your analogies are so stupid, they're depressing. If a law firm simply assigns a lawyer to a case, then it's no different from a company assigning an essay to a writer. Now if you're looking for a team of lawyers to work on your case, yeah.. internal teamwork matters. HOWEVER, do you even need any teamwork from writers when you need to get an essay done?

LOL!

Oh, and shouldn't you be repeating that I only "throw dirt" at foreign sites/companies? What happened to that?

Ooooh.. so you're willing to support that usaessays.com is definitely an American company? Why? Were you able to take snapshots of its physical address already? ^___^

and while we're on the subject of ignored statements:

Where are the evidences that I was ever frantic about your expose?
Where's your "no crime, no sale" banner?
Where did you hide your spine?
WritersBeware  
Oct 26, 2010 | #32
HOWEVER, do you even need any teamwork from writers when you need to get an essay done?

Who in the hell mentioned "teamwork" amongst writers? I'm referring to how the owners/administrators of a given essay site handle/offer the following:

* general experience in dealing with any number of potential problems that unexpectedly arise;

* understanding the English language and being qualified enough to judge "quality" writing in the English language;

* hiring and maintaining only qualified writers;

* properly assigning writers;

* receiving and forwarding sources in a timely manner;

* streamlining communication between writer and customer;

* processing credits and refunds in a proper, timely manner;

* having ample, liquid resources so as to avoid the bulls-i* excuses that are common to startup and ripoff companies when delaying payments to writers and refunds to customers;

* etc.

Ooooh.. so you're willing to support that usaessays.com is definitely an American company?

All evidence indicates that it is, indeed, an American company. Do you have any evidence to the contrary, or are you just being a b**-h, as usual?

Why do you have such an overwhelming aversion to honesty, forthrightness, and full disclosure?

Were you able to take snapshots of its physical address already? ^___^

Yes. I had already identified the address as the owner's residence.
EW_writer  21 | 1981 ☆☆☆  
Oct 26, 2010 | #33
Who in the hell mentioned "teamwork" amongst writers? I'm referring to how the owners/administrators of a given essay site handle/offer the following:

Blah blah blah... are we talking about statements that the company made regarding its managerial expertise in handling orders? No. The statement in question is only:

The versatile ********* writing staff can take on virtually any writing job with ease, and have written thousands of academic projects.

Is that a false advertisement if the company actually did hire a staff of experienced writers one day before they posted the ad? No. You lose.

Yes. I had already identified the address as the owner's residence.

So where are the pictures?
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
May 03, 2021 | #34
What I would have liked to have read a better defense from the O. P, to prove that he wasn't the company owner. his lack of defense just proved his guilt in the matter and killed his chances of having a properly accepted academic writing company in our community. What a wasthe of his time this all was.at least, he was caught early on and the students were informed of the con before any of them could have been adversely affected by the almost believable con. Great detective work everyone.
noted  10 | 2064 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Jan 09, 2022 | #35
The company does not give the client control over anything related to his paper. Which makes me question the quality and ability of their writing staff. The company should allow the student to choose his writer based on the uploaded CV of the writer applicant. Only the student can choose the writer for his project because he is the only one who can decide if there are any additional qualities in a writer that he may desire or, if a writer suggested for the project seems lacking in the skills he feels are necessary for the project. Let us not forget that the company could care less if they assign a skilled writer or not. The student should have the right to speak to the applicants and base his final decision for hiring on an interview process. This company seems to be skilled only in payment collection and nothing more due to their extensive online payment channels. I believe the company is focused on the wrong part of the business.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Jan 10, 2022 | #36
Before I went completely independent, I wrote for some of the biggest and best US/UK essay companies. None of them displayed any writer profiles or gave customers the option of picking specific writers based on a writer's profile. I've heard (from other writers) about some legit platforms that do that; but from what I've seen (mostly looking at sites mentioned on this forum), the companies with writer "profiles" and those little ID photos of writers were all obvious scams and those profiles were all obvious fakes, as were all of their posted "reviews" from "customers."
masonaid  - | 4  
Jan 10, 2022 | #37
This is a sector in which anonymity is valued on both sides, and it would seem once again that Cite/noted is more familiar with its scam incarnations than with the basic operations of a typical, legitimate provider.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Jan 10, 2022 | #38
This is a sector in which anonymity is valued on both sides

That's obviously the case for writers whose main gig is in traditional academia and/or in certain other industries and/or countries; but I've always been extremely open about what I do and probably >90% of my clients and I know one another's real identities. It used to be on my resume, and when I first interviewed for my old job in federal government, we discussed it during my interview. It certainly provided evidence that I can work well under intense deadline pressure and juggle multiple overlapping deadlines.
noted  10 | 2064 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Jan 11, 2022 | #39
@Freelancewriter Since there are a large number of questionable companies and independent writers out there, the best way to assure a client of transparency and legitimacy is by being honest about who you are and how the job is to be done. I commend you on your desire to promote transparency as a part of your business honesty profile.

I am familiar with the way other legitimate companies run. It is an alternative to the way that the scams use fake writer profiles and pictures on their websites to entice clients. There are even some companies that, in an effort to provide clear and direct communication between the writer and client, allow the two parties to directly communicate using Zoom, Viber, Messenger, or alternative communication platforms provided by the company. The only request of the company is that the payment passes through them, which is a given since the order has to be placed before the communication between parties can be conducted. Clients tend to trust the writer more when they can connect a name with a face through actual communication.
The opinions are that of the author's alone based on an individual capacity. Opinions are provided "as is" and are not error-free.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Jan 12, 2022 | #40
How do they prevent customers and writers from cutting the company out, altogether, once they're in direct contact?




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