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When is an Essay yours! Amending your work by UKessays


addick  1 | 3  
Mar 26, 2010 | #1
A quick question to all.

I have ordered a significant number of pieces from UK essays. I have probably spent close to 3 to 4 thousand pounds with UK Essays. (Happy to provide order numbers) Originally the pieces were excellent. Met the standard or far out reached what was paid for - however now the work is below par or to be honest in some cases pitiful.

Revised UK PaperThe customer service of the company is excellent. You cannot fault it. That is why after two particularly horrific pieces I have remained with UK essays (later, due to financials, moved to CustomPapers with good results, but that's another story). Upper first returned at 2:2 (low 2:2 at that ) and a 1st that on original submission met only a 3rd class pass

I have a question - I recently requested a literature review and a dissertation response and asked for amendments following a review by senior lecturers. When I requested the order originally I submitted my work to the researcher as a basis to work upon. The researcher incorporates my work within their model answer.

I submit both pieces for review - mid 50 's on both. I pass over the notes to the researcher via yourself and get reminded that this is a model answer and is not meant to be submitted as my own. However the work is already a combination of both.

I can see no difference between a 2:1 or 1st or Upper First researched piece. Everything I have ordered comes back at a 2:2 standard requiring expansion and considerable focus or further depth in research.

So if the work received is a combination of the notes you originally submitted, how can it be their model answer?

Confused!

Related: https://essayscam.org/forum/es/researcher-ukessays-wants-extra-fees-amend-paper-5276/
Lazy Skeptic  6 | 42   Student
Mar 27, 2011 | #2
**** happens, no company can guarantee you a grade, they base their answers on their own marking scheme and not the university, if they do infact use a marking scheme like they claim. Even the best writers may turn in less than brilliant papers, i don't understand how anyone can guarantee you an upper 1st, like UK essays claim. The paper has to be damn near perfect to get an upper 1st.
WritersBeware  
Mar 27, 2011 | #3
Any site that guarantees or promises a certain grade is both fraudulent AND illegal.
aContender  1 | 3  
Apr 03, 2011 | #5
Whenever I read a guarantee of a certain grade I think of that scene in Back to School with Rodney Dangerfield. He has to to write a paper on Kurt Vonnegut and hires the author to write it. The professor thinks it's garbage and Dangerfield tells Vonnegut he doesn't know anything about himself. It was funny but also true...no one can promise a grade on any topic.
Smiley73  4 | 591 ☆☆  
Oct 28, 2017 | #6
Let's think of it this way, you submitted your information in a manner that required the writer to make edits to it or add information to a certain extent. The writer mixes and matches information coming from your research and his. This creates a totally new paper that contains 2 strains of... let's call it DNA (for want of a better word). What happens when you combine the DNA of both parents? The result is a pregnancy (work development) and the birth of a unique child (combined DNA creates a new person and personality) who carries the best of both contributors to the life process (your work and the writer's work). Hence, the result of this combination creates a new and original offspring ( the new essay). Considering these factors, it would be right to say that the work produced is a new model answer that should not be used in its original form by the student. It is now the work of the writer who took pains to combine both sets of information in order to develop the paper. Whatever the result, good or bad, it is still his original work that came out at that point. Even if you contributed to the creation of the being. Since he had to do the work of combining everything (fertilization), then the result is the writer's alone.
Write Review  1 | 546 ☆☆  
Jan 30, 2019 | #7
Technically, the work is no longer a model paper but an original paper because it incorporates both aspects of research; yours and the writer's. Therefore, the paper ceases to be the original work of the writer.

However, there are still elements of his thoughts, opinions, and writing in the new paper. The better question to ask is "Should I rephrase the parts written by the writer to avoid plagiarism problems?" The answer to that would be yes. It is always best to be cautious in these instances because you never know if the paper has already been submitted to a plagiarism checker or not.

Changing about 60% of the writer's presentation should help you avoid the plagiarism detecting software, if the paper had been submitted previously. This should be done only if you are not confident that the paper will pass an originality test. If you feel that the paper was changed enough to be more representative of your voice and thoughts, then there is no need to worry and you can submit the model paper for a grade.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Jan 30, 2019 | #8
Changing about 60% of the writer's presentation should help you avoid the plagiarism detecting software, if the paper had been submitted previously.

If a paper has already been submitted to any plagiarism scanner, changing 60% of it will result in a 40% plagiarism score, complete with a list of exactly when and from what school any unoriginal content was previously submitted for scanning, which is totally unacceptable and will guarantee a failure, and possibly formal accusations of academic dishonesty.

If you feel that the paper was changed enough to be more representative of your voice and thoughts, then there is no need to worry and you can submit the model paper for a grade.

That depends on what a student is worried about: If the concern is merely passing the plagiarism scan, just rewriting (all of) it in your voice will probably work. However, to whatever extent the concern is whether or not you're violating the academic-honesty policy of your school -- or that of just about any school, actually -- merely rewriting the "presentation" doesn't change the fact that it's still plagiarism. I don't have any way of knowing what my clients actually do with my projects; but on a forum where students are looking for guidance about academic honesty and related policies in relation to model essays, I think it's important to provide factually correct information. By every definition of plagiarism and the originality of work submitted for academic credit, merely changing the words (even all of them) does not change the fact that presenting the intellectual ideasof someone else without citing the source of those ideas is still considered rank plagiarism.
Study Review  - | 254  
Oct 31, 2019 | #9
All of the presented arguments here are the precise reason as to why I advocate that clients should learn to research thoroughly prior to availing of these services. If you can truly look up which companies are reliable and which are not, you will be able to have a better and more positive approach towards writing, especially because you will not worry as much whether or not you have gotten an efficient and communicative writer. If you can omit this possibility, then you are setting yourself up for success. Being unable to trust the company that you work for is certainly a sign that you should not be ordering from them. For clients, knowing a company thoroughly removes the annoyance of not knowing whether or not the paper is truly authentic.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Nov 02, 2019 | #10
To the main question originally asked by the OP about the combination of his draft with the work produced by the essay company: Whether or not it's appropriate to incorporate any of the client's original draft depends on what the client requested and paid for. An experienced writer knows how to make sure that the issues represented by these types of projects are fully discussed in advance so there's no misunderstanding of exactly what the client wants.

If the client provided a draft with comments and revision requests and without any explicit instructions to the contrary, that obviously means substantial portions of the original draft will probably be retained, which usually includes fulfilling all of the revision requests and incorporating much of the existing material, either unchanged or edited appropriately, as necessary for a smooth blending of the exiting draft and the changes and/or additions. In that situation, an independent writer would review the draft and revision requests first and quote a price for the whole project based on the amount of work it seems to require for everything requested. Typically, if that literature review is intended to be a specific length (say 10,000 words), the writer might have the client just pay for a 10,000-word project and agree to issue either a partial refund or future credit (at the client's option) for however much of the original draft ends up in the section, in which case, we'd use a different font color or redlined tracked changes to easily identify new writing and old material. So, if the project is paid as 10,000 words and ends up using 1,000 words from the original draft, the writer would refund or credit back 10% of the payment, etc. Conversely, if it's agreed in advance that the project will be paid as 10,000 words and that approximately 10% of that would be for the necessary editing and/or blending of the draft material, there would be no refund. It all depends on what was discussed in advance.

If you're dealing with an essay company, there usually isn't a quote process before payment because most of them use automatic ordering systems. Customers just select the length of the project and pay for whatever number of pages they order. They might provide instructions about how much of the draft should or shouldn't be used, which isn't a problem as long as they pay for however much work is fairly represented by the requested revisions and however much new writing they want. If they underestimate and order too few pages for the amount of work required, the writer would let customer service know or simply explain it to the customer directly through the messaging system and let the customer decide how to allocate revisions and new writing and/or place a supplemental order for whatever amount of additional paid work is appropriate for the combination of all of the revisions and new writing requested. Likewise, if customers accidentally order and pay for more work than necessary through an automated system, the writer should let customer service and/or the customer know, but that almost never happens, because customers almost always underestimate the amount of work required when projects involve fulfilling substantial revision requests on customers' drafts.
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
Jan 29, 2020 | #11
Once a writer takes over and creates a new research paper for a student that combines both his research and the student's research, it becomes a totally new paper. It is therefore, considered a model paper. The new paper was not written by the student, but his research was combined into the work of the writer, hence the paper is now a combination of both sets of information, creating a totally new perspective and presentation, it's a new model paper and should not be submitted for a grade. Now, when the student takes the new paper and revises it on his own, it becomes another new paper and thus, can be submitted for a grade.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Jan 29, 2020 | #12
My clients own anything that I write for them as soon as they receive it from me.




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