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They do have... the basic foundation for setting up any law is based on common law...


Does logic prevail over faith? Read the whole history of human kind and you will know that faith has always prevailed over logic.. I would suggest you to study " The language of God".. This book, as you may know, have been written by the man who was the head of Human genome project and a hard core scientist trained at Yale... read his comments and you would know how logic fails to provide answers to most fundamental problems of human nature. Or watch " What the Bleep" and you would understand the difference between faith and logic..

It is not entirely true that logic is the only way of arguing or debating a problem..


So???? come out of your colonial slave mentality my countryman..... stop serving those who stab screw drivers in your back.......

This might be a little off the topic. I would like to let everyone know that no one amongst my grand parents was an ape :D

Pheelyks are logic and intellect is limited and subjective. It is the God our creator who is the most logical, most intellectual.

In the creation of the heavens and earth, and the alternation of the night and day, and the ships which sail the seas to people's benefit, and the water which Allah sends down from the sky-by which He brings the earth to life when it was dead and scatters about in it creatures of every kind-and the varying direction of the winds, and the clouds subservient between heaven and earth, there are Signs for people who use their intellect. (Qur'an, 2: 164)

Allah brought you out of your mothers' wombs knowing nothing at all, and gave you hearing, sight and hearts so that perhaps you would show thanks. (Qur'an, 16: 78)

True.. Probably my friends here even do not know that major philosophical thrust behind the Hitler's war was the Charles Darwin. I consider Mr. Darwin equally responsible for the killing of innocent jews as Hitler himself..

Proof?


In a logical debate, yes.


Obviously. You have yet to employ it. I am not denigrating faithm but when people use it because they are incapable of using logic (like yourself), there's a problem. Faith provides answers where logic cannot, not in logic's stead.


If that is true, then can you use logic to prove God's existence? Others have failed. You cannot prove that God doesn't exist, either (that's attempting to prove a negative, which I've covered in another post), but that isn't evidence of his (or hers, or its) existence. Quoting a religious text (such as the Qur'an) as evidence of its own claims also presents a logical fallacy (circular reasoning, specifically).


And yet your writing style persists...


And Einstein was responsible for killing hundreds of thousands due to his explanation of atomic theory, and Jesus was responsible for all of the deaths in the Crusades, and Muhammad is to blame for everyone killed in the name of Islam...this is the continuation of your logic. Darwin's ideas have been put to terrible uses by certain individuals, as have Einstein's, and Jesus', and Muhammad's--should all of these men have peered into the future, seen how their words and ideas would be twisted, and just killed themselves before doing anything important in order to spare future generations?

By the way, just to stir up a little extra excitement, I am Jewish. I no longer subscribe to the faith I was born into, but I used to be a fully observant Orthodox Jew. one of the reasons I stopped believing in religion was the way it causes needless division between people, and the excuse it provides for lazy intellects.


Actually, the basis for many Western laws and especially for the system of creating laws and courts comes from the Old Testament--my ancestors, the ancient Hebrews (intermediaries between myself and the apes).

Not only is that comment very archaic but it is absolutely racist - it reflects your assumption that any from the developing or newly developed countries have an inbuilt slave mentality! You really know very very little ...


Unfortunately, that is so true ...


We are in good company. Apparently, Darwin is as much of a liar and a cheat as all of us here ... with the soul exception of the Great Lord Chacha of Brunchland.


I think we all, with the exception of the Unique Chacha, can make the same claim :)


Please do not talk law ... actually, I am begging you! It took all I had not to comment on your business "law" remarks ... let's not get into your assumptions regarding the roots of law!


Waiting for you to educate us ... how could we know anything if you don't tell us!?


Pheelyks ... you are just plain cruel!!! You are using too much logic and too many facts ... don't confuse the poor sod!


Unless the Fool decides that you are not.

Just to make it clear (not that you're confused, OR, but other readers might be), I was quoting chacha when i said this. It is amusing that Darwin held off publishing his theory until Alfred Wallace had developed the same idea, but I don't think this is what chacha was referring to.

This thread is a joke-false accusations and ILLEGAL (see US Federal Lanham Act) promotion of commercial harm against an innocent competitor (ET, as usual) posted by "investigator" (stu4 gang from Ukraine), followed by utterly insane ramblings by already-banned caca.

You cheat! You lier! As if any here would ever believe that Brilliant Chacha, Master of the English Language and the Knower of All Truth, would have made such an asinine comment! I am truly dissapointed in you Pheelyks ... it is very clear that you are terribly jealous of Chacha and are maligning it because thing is taking all your customers away!


Just this thread WB? The forum itself has descended to that level. False accusations, left, right and centre and if you make a peep, then you are one and the same as the company you are defending. Apparently, you are not supposed to ask any to back up their allegations ...


I didn't want to comment on this until I was better informed. I asked my IT guy (has a master's degree in the field from a really reputable university) and he said that the practice is both standard and popular. It does not constitute spamming and if it did, millions of sites would be banned ... He thought the accusation rather ludicrous and probably made by a total web-ignoramus.

Proof?


" God does not play dice" Albert Einestien


For God's sake never compare a cheat with persons like Jesus and Muhammad... Jesus never preached death and terror... still Christians undertook Crusades....... Whom would you blame?If you are happy and content enough with a pathetic assumption that your forefathers were apes, go ahead.. live with that fantacy in the name of logic......


And science does not? Darwin's theories never attempted to divided people according to superiority of race? Science have not divided people into third world and first world? Science has not divided people in the name of technological superiority? Read " Confessions of an Economic hitman" and you will know how the great greats of Western world loot and plunder innocents on the basis of their technology and science.. If you are happy to be the part of same bandwagon and want to cheat and loot people, I think you made a very right decision of leaving your religion


People divided because their logic decieved them.... If you have the ability to understand and internalize any religion you will never feel yourself seperate from anyone else... Oneness is what every religion of the world tells you.. read about Hinduism, Islamic, Bhuddism, Christianity, Judiasim and find me a single verse or reference which ask for division between people?

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Oh really? Are'nt you aware of the fact that Shilpa Shetty was hurled with racist remarks by Late Jade Goody? Are'nt you aware of the fact that Indian students in Australia are contiousely attacked on racial basis and one of them was stabed with screw driver?

India is still far far away from being a developed country.. Please go and read the basic definition of a developed country


True.. You have finally recognized how ignorant you are


I asked you how many legal forms a business can take and you failed to answer that question..... M I right? It is a challenge to you because you are doing business here therefore you must know how many legal forms a business can take? Answer me and i will shatter all your myths about doing business.....


Ask your parents and government for keeping you uneducated and ignorant... I think a class 8 student in India is more informed than you.........


Two wrongs # one right........


No.. I will leave this job to you and WB (Both never post false accusations and are the only two individuals on the earth who are law abiding)


This is what you and your friends have been doing since last two years or so...... posting false accusations and claiming that they are proveable in the court of law..... Probably you and your friends must have developed such expertise because alongwith you, they may have been in the courts of law for 100s of times for cheating therefore you exactly know what evidence is verifiable in court of law and which one is not.....

Experience always count my friend......


You are always ill informed........


Newton held back his theories too and he published them later but before anyone came up with the same idea...... So whats the difference?

You want proof that in a logical debate, logic beats faith? It's part of the definition...

Try this: "In a debate where logic wins (i.e. a logical debate), logic beats faith."

Is that clear?


Neither did Darwin, so what's your point?

Also: "I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword" (words attributed to Jesus in Matthew 10:34).


Now you're arguing my side.


Thank you for your permission.


Select interpretations of Darwin's theories have been used this way, but Darwin himself never advocated it. Electricity has also been used for nefarious purposes. Human flight was followed by human aerial bombings. Computers are used to steal. Even rocks have been and still are used as weapons--we're never safe!

chacha421
Islam: "O you who believe, fight those of the unbelievers near you and let them see how harsh you can be. Know that Allah is with the righteous" (Qur'an 9:123)

Judaism: "However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 Completely destroy them-the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites-as the LORD your God has commanded you. Otherwise, they will teach you to follow all the detestable things they do in worshiping their gods, and you will sin against the LORD your God" (Deuteronomy 20:16-18)

Christianity: "I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword" (Matthe 10:34)

You are right about Buddhism, as far as I know, and I don't know enough about Hinduism to make a claim, but will three of the world's major religions suffice?

I wasn't implying that there was one. Both men held off on publishing their more controversial theories for fear of upsetting the establishment (especially the religious powers). Darwin felt he had to publish when someone else was about to--he had been sitting on his idea for decades, so it wasn't cheating, Wallace just forced his hand. newton, if I remember correctly, published many things posthumously (which had been Darwin's original intent).

What was the point of your question, exactly?

Ok.. Lets take this debate further and let me prove you that logic fails..
Answer my following question:
Do you believe that gravity exists?


Are you sure?


Do you think, you are fully capable of understanding the actual meanings of these words?


So? this also means that science divide people therefore your arguement that religion is the only source of division between people is wrong


Who are unbelievers? Just clarify onething.. What punishment does a civilized world of today accord to those who murder innocent?


Re-read this line again....


Two wrong theories cannot create one right theory.. both wallace and darwin were wrong


Establishment not the religion itself... Don't mix religion with its institutions.. religion is much broader concept than taught in Church

Yes. This is already getting fun.


No; can you cite a reliable source that shows he did?


I never said that religion was the only source of division between people. I said it was one, and a useless one. Though science can be used divisively, it also provides some real answers.


Do you think, (this comma doesn't belong here, by the way) you are fully capable of explaining the actual meanings ("meanings" shouldn't be plural in this sentence--that means the final "s" doesn't belong) instead of simply implying that I misinterpreted the text?

And what about the other two? Did I misunderstand those as well? If so, how?


Considering this came from the Qur'an, I would assume that the unbelievers are those who do not believe in the Qur'an, and by association, Allah. I'm not a theologian, though...


Your grammar and syntax aside, this question is completely off point. Most of the civilized world is not ruled by religion, and most theocracies (those are governments by based on religion) have terrible human rights records. Before you start, YES, many governments that are not based on religion also have human rights violations. The point is, religion in no way guarantees unity or peace.


Oh, so that's what you meant! In that case, you don't really understand the situation. Wallace and Darwin had the same theory (namely, evolution via natural selection); they arrived at it independently. You can still think that the theory is wrong, but your statement doesn't apply to the situation. I'm glad you were able to present it in understandable English, however.


Thank you for the lesson. Of course, the only part of a religion one could upset is the establishment--that is, the people that practice a religion. "Christianity," for example, is not a sentient being capable of being upset. Again, your statement is technically correct but utterly pointless anyway.

On a side note, you had offered to prove your test scores before. If that offer still stands, I am very curious to see proof of your credentials.

Ok.. Do you know humans fly too? against the fact that there is gravity?


I posted links which contain info on what he did...


Quote me one definitive answer which science has provided? Theories of Newton, Einestien and almost every scientists have been proved as wrong by subsequent research. What seems truth today will be nothing more than speculative thinking tommorow.


And the division which science has created is in favor of humanity? Science has killed more people than religion..... 20th century saw destruction of two cities of Japan through atomic bomb and you are still advocating science as an alternative of religion?


You are not answering my question? Rather you are showing that you lack the capability to interpret religion and its teachings.. Your refusal to follow religion is nothing more than your inability to understand religion in its right perspective....


a believer in Islam is one who follows all three major religions of the world and that include Jews, Christians and Muslims...


US has largest crime rates in the world.. Most number of rapes take place in US... THIS IS WHAT YOU CALL A CIVILIZED WORLD?????

countries ruled by religion have minimum ratio of divorces, minimum level of crimes ( if you want proof.. read statistics about Saudi Arabia, Iran etc)


Wrong... Religions are not followed by their establishments... Religion is followed by billions of ordinary people----- I will not be surprised to read that you may label all people as fraud and cheat because they believe in something which is baseless and pointless according to you..


My offer still stands..... if you, WB, OR and all those who have been posting accusations and lies here render a public appology for what they have done, I will post both of my test scores here......

No, actually humans fly because of other physical laws--Bernoulli's principle of lift is one of the most essential. When there isn;t enough power to generate lift, gravity brings humans down. If gravity didn't exist, I could fly just by jumping...but I can't.

Can you?


Really? I didn't see those. Could you please post them again, or let me know where these links are? The forum is rather large...


Very good! This is the heart of the scientific method. According to true science, nothing can ever be proven without a doubt. That is the problem I have with religion--it states things as absolute fact without actually being able to prove any of it. Science necessarily leaves room for doubt, meaning that our understanding can always be improved.


These countries also practice capital punishment at much higher rates than the US or the UK, or even India, and severely limit civil liberties such as the freedom of speech, of religion, the rights of women, etc.


I don't think so, but it will take awhile for me to add everything up.


yes.

Yes..
Humans lavitate
They can walk on fire
They can walk on water
They can walk on broken glasses

Without altering any thing in their sorroundings... human can do all of the above under perfectly normal conditions with 100% gravity and blah blah of the science... Have you ever read about theory of entanglement and superposition? read them again and your logic will defy you.....

I think a lot of people would disagree with this statement. Also, Hinduism and Buddhism have larger populations of adherents, if I am correct (making them more "major" religions).

I'm not sure what I have "done" on this forum that warrants an apology, but I apologize sincerely for any false statements I have made.

Now where's the proof?

That means nothing is certain in Science.. How can you believe something which is constantly changing.. which cannot provide a certain answer to even single problem faced by humans...

chacha421


I keep asking you to explain it to me. Would you care to try?

You think US has given 100% of freedome of speech, of religion and women? US allowed voting rights to women only 60 years ago in its more than 300 years of history...

Can you do any of the things you've listed?


That's true. I would be one of the last people on Earth to claim that the US is perfect. But women are allowed to vote in the US now. Are they allowed in Saudi Arabia? or Iran? What about Jews in those countries? Are there any?

Your maths is really poor or rather your logic is really impaired.... start counting from world war 1 and 2.. you would come up with a figure equal to millions...

Everybody - I have been defeated, finished and exposed. I "can never any argument" from Mr Fantactic of the near-perfect TOEFL score. I am a lier and a fraud just like Darwin, Einstein and Newton :( I am also an idiot as I cannot fly, walk on water, or lavitate, and if I try to walk on glass or through fire, I'd probably get all cut up and burnt. I am so ashamed of myself!

I'm not in school anymore, so I don't get the chance for a good academic debate very often. Not that this is an especially good academic debate, but it has some similarities.

Short answer: Yeah, it's kinda fun.


Bruce Lee did this first. And he explained it. Yes, using an invisible force known as "chi," but even with this his explanation was based on logic.[/quote]

The fire walking video is more like fire hopping. On a coal fire. Coals actually retain heat very well; if your foot does not remain in contact with them for a long period of time, there won;t be enough transfer of heat to cause a burn. Try reading this: health.howstuffworks.com/firewalking1.htm

The water walking video is a David Blaine type of stunt. If you come do it in my swimming pool, without a video crew, I'll believe you.

The glass walker you linked to is one of the worst I've seen--you can actually watch as she carefully pats the glass down with each step before putting any weight on it--not all that impressive.

I'm still waiting for your proof of credentials, by the way--I already made my apology.

Other things I have asked chacha for proof of that has yet to be posted:

1) Darwin meant for his theory to be used to kill lots of people and create a super race
2) Iran and Saudi Arabia are more peaceful and free countries due to their religious governments
3) Human beings can levitate
4) Gravity doesn't actually exist
5) Everything science says is a lie

If you can prove any one of these points, I will eat my hat. Or your hat, if you can afford to mail it to me.