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johnsmith  1 | 13  
Oct 26, 2009 | #1
I teach a humanities subject at a university in the south of England, but the other day I happened to see the assignment sheet given out by one of my colleagues, who teaches a business-related unit.

This is (word for word) the question he set his students:

"Developing countries how they play important role in global business and what is the important factors and aspects that can be consider to combat with globalisation and its influences on International Trade?"

Clearly it's not just students and ESL writers who struggle with the English language. I'm quite shocked, tbh!
WritersBeware  
Oct 26, 2009 | #2
John, this is exactly why many ESL writers think that they are qualified. Their teachers are freaking clueless!
pheelyks  
Oct 26, 2009 | #3
I died a little inside reading this. Not that it's something new, but....
rustyironchains  12 | 696 ☆☆  
Oct 26, 2009 | #4
I don't see what the problem is-- the spelling is perfect.
AsianWriter  - | 162  
Oct 26, 2009 | #5
"Developing countries how they play important role in global business..."

Is this guy (writer?) an ESL? And he/she teaches in college?
OxbridgeExpert  - | 112  
Oct 27, 2009 | #6
ESL StudyJohn Smith

No surprises there I'm afraid. Especially in recent years, very many students in the UK have been passed (undergraduate and masters) who have a dreadful level of English - not to mention academic ability.

That includes native speakers too, (because standards have massivley dumbed down in recent years so we can all be like the dumbed down Americans), but it is true that many foreign students - who then go on to be teachers and lecturers - can hardly string a decent English sentence together.

The situation is even worse is these teachers took their degrees in Africa or Asia (not trustworthy in general), but it is worth saying that the least good universities in the UK are just as bad - as are a great many universities in the USA where graduates have such a low intellectual level and reading age they shouldn't be allowed to teach anyone over the age of five.

Still, if one applies business methods to the education system and marking schemes are generous and turn a blind eye to bad spelling/grammar/punctuation and plagiarism, then what does one expect. It will dumb down and teachers will mark up and pass students who should fail to keep their good reputation in the statistics. Sad but true. Such a scam really.

Maybe this lecturer just bought the essays that got him his qualifications, anyway...
pheelyks  
Oct 27, 2009 | #7
That includes native speakers too, (because standards have massivley dumbed down in recent years so we can all be like the dumbed down Americans)

So the Americans are to blame for failures in the UK educational system? I fail to see the causal relationship here.

the least good universities

While not technically incorrect, this phrase comes off as rather dim. Why not just say, "the worst universities"?
WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Oct 27, 2009 | #8
While not technically incorrect, this phrase comes off as rather dim. Why not just say, "the worst universities"?

Possibly due to the baseless assumption that British English is synomymous with verbiage.

So the Americans are to blame for failures in the UK educational system?

According to the `not British and never-set-foot in the UK' OxbridgeExpert, yes. According to the rest of us, mismanagement and a failed nation-wide education policy.
OxbridgeExpert  - | 112  
Oct 27, 2009 | #9
Pheeks or whatever your name is: yes, in fact, we have to dumb down our standards because otherwise those at British universities would not be graduating whilst those in America were graduating with good degrees. We still haven't dumbed down to retard levels like the USA but standards have gone down during the past 20 years. The fault of American dumb culture? Yes, in part.

Phlukes or some silly other name - yet again you display your ignorance like your retarded sidekick and possible catamite WRT. I referred to 'least good universities' because THAT my dumb friend is called writing with elegance and style - and the phrase refers to a famous saying by Churchill too. Yet again, your criticism of my superior language skills displays your ignorance.

Now go away and do your homework boys.
nathraq  1 | 33  
Oct 27, 2009 | #10
Another baseless allegation.

For all of your supposed knowledge Melissa, you sure are lacking in the research department.

Now go do your homework, girlfriend
pheelyks  
Oct 27, 2009 | #11
I referred to 'least good universities' because THAT my dumb friend is called writing with elegance and style

No, that writing is clunky and has the appearance of being uneducated. You call me dumb (of course knowing that "dumb" actually refers to someone who is unable to speak; technically the word has nothing to do with intelligence), but I'm not the one making baseless allegations.
WritersBeware  
Oct 27, 2009 | #12
We still haven't dumbed down to retard levels like the USA

F-U.
OxbridgeExpert  - | 112  
Oct 28, 2009 | #13
QED

Phleeks - you are an example of a dumb American. You are convinced you are correct in judging others' writing ability, but simply have NO idea what you are talking about. Your posts are full of all the nonsense you learned at your retard American high school - most of which is lie after lie after lie designed to make you proud to be an American (I would be ashamed if I were an American, for sure!)

nathraq is obviously just your lackey and little prison beeeetch. Pathetic. But typical of American culture.

WritersBeware is the biggest BS merchant on here. What a moron he is! Such levels of ignorance! All he can do is insult his intellectual superiors and spout drivel about the law when he knows not what he is waffling about at all! Anyone can threaten legal action - morons like WB, for example.

WB has NEVER EVER given ANY evidence on here - not real evidence - just his BS opinion which he tells everyone is evidence. Typical example of the dumbed down American education system - though I do believe WB is originally from Ukraine and is only an adopted American.

Also, WB apparently owns and runs an essay site (The 'Town' one) - so of course he disparages and libels and spreads rumours about his better competitors on this non-entity of a message board. Essay Scam has NO authority at all - it is just a forum for liars and cheats. That is why anyone with half a brain ignores it.

F-U? Very intelligent comment, I'm sure. What a cretin you are! What a fool!

WB is the retard king of the retards on here. QED.

So funny. So sad. So deluded. So WB... Why you think anyone is somehow afraid of you or respects what you say is utterly bizarre. You are a great big nothing boy - a nothing amongst nothings. The kind of the idiots! The lord of fools!

FU indeed! You obviously have a mental age and a reading age of 11 - like most American graduate students then.

QED you losers.
nathraq  1 | 33  
Oct 28, 2009 | #14
Another rambling by a person of inadequate English proficiency.

And you have multiple mega-degrees from a top university in Britain? What does that tell us about the British education system?

Once again, post facts, not personal attacks. I asked you to back up this claim:

The situation is even worse is these teachers took their degrees in Africa or Asia.

and this one:

Pheeks or whatever your name is: yes, in fact, we have to dumb down our standards because otherwise those at British universities would not be graduating whilst those in America were graduating with good degrees.

Your hacked up writing skills and English proficiency are just putting you deeper into the s-i*hole you created for yourself. Just look at the two quotes I posted, and any native or proficient English speaker will notice the mistakes in grammar buried within.

So answer the questions I posted, or GTFO
OxbridgeExpert  - | 112  
Oct 28, 2009 | #15
nathraq - I do not debate anything with barely literate, dumb little retards like you. So FO fool.

Anyway, isn't it time a little lackey prison beeetch like you did your usual job and sucked WB's you-know-what - an American tradition I believe, especially amongst your priests.
nathraq  1 | 33  
Oct 28, 2009 | #16
back up your claims, that's all we're asking

You said you have multiple nerd-degrees from a top university. Put 'em to use there girlfriend, and back up your statements.

It's that easy
WritersBeware  
Oct 28, 2009 | #17
Hey, nathraq, isn't it funny how OxbridgeExpert (Melissa) actually thinks that her writing skills are sound?
nathraq  1 | 33  
Oct 28, 2009 | #18
word up

(yes I said it, hehe)
OxbridgeExpert  - | 112  
Oct 29, 2009 | #19
Go ON nathraq - suck WB - HARDER HARDER HARDER! You dumb illierate American monkey C-sucking HO!
WritersBeware  
Oct 29, 2009 | #20
Ah, the final product of three degrees from the most prestigious, British universities . . . .
OxbridgeExpert  - | 112  
Oct 29, 2009 | #21
WRITERSBEWARE IS A SCAMMER WHO OWNS AND RUNS *********

BEWARE EVERYONE!

A LIAR SCUMBAG IS EXPOSED!

HA HA HA!
nathraq  1 | 33  
Oct 29, 2009 | #22
This is getting nowhere fast.

Prove your statements with facts, or leave. It's that simple. Or is it?
WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Oct 29, 2009 | #24
The hysterical capitalisation, baseless accusations and very same words which wereAsif4444's trademark.

Your last three posts, Melissa, have exposed you (you were stark naked, anyway). You are OxbridgeExpert and Asif4444.

Naff off, lassie.
AsianWriter  - | 162  
Oct 29, 2009 | #25
WRITERSBEWARE IS A SCAMMER WHO OWNS AND RUNS *********

We should all be so lucky.
EV14  - | 15  
Oct 30, 2009 | #26
Go ON nathraq - suck WB - HARDER HARDER HARDER! You dumb illierate American monkey C-sucking HO!

Whoa. OxbridgeExpert, calling someone a c*nt-sucking monkey is a little over the line, don't you think? You kinda tank your argument about the superiority of your educational system when you start spewing that sort of low-brow trash.
OxbridgeExpert  - | 112  
Oct 30, 2009 | #27
Yes nathraq you lackey slave - I quote you: "back up your claims, that's all we're asking"

So, about your lies and false and paranoid idea that I am someone called Melissa and am inn Australia.

Post your evidence

OR NAFF OFF

OK?

Of course, first you'd have to unwrap your big lips from where they tend to always be - around WritersBeware's (aka ********* scammer) putrid little joystick. YUK! You Americans really are vile and filthy and disgusting...

You really are a real piece of moronic deformity, aren't you?

"back up your claims, that's all we're asking"

Go on then, scumbag.

I'm waiting...
nathraq  1 | 33  
Oct 30, 2009 | #28
/threadfail
OxbridgeExpert  - | 112  
Oct 30, 2009 | #29
nathraq

I'm waiting....

Cry for mummy as much as you want...

But you have shown yourself to be a pathetic little liar and are guilty of libel - not to mention mentally delusional with paranoid fantasies.

Seek help eh...

But you can apologise first for libelling me. I can then consider if I want to accept your apology.

Natch
nathraq  1 | 33  
Oct 30, 2009 | #30
libel lol

Everyone here is pretty much in a consensus about you.

I asked you many times throughout three different threads to post proof about your idiotic claims:

The situation is even worse is these teachers took their degrees in Africa or Asia (not trustworthy in general).

Pheeks or whatever your name is: yes, in fact, we have to dumb down our standards because otherwise those at British universities would not be graduating whilst those in America were graduating with good degrees.

And FYI, America was named after the Brit Richard Ap Merrick, the chacellor of King Henry Tudwr in 1497, and not some insignificant explorer called Amerigo: THAT is the modern consensus based on all evidence.

Ever realise that Britain stood ALONE saving the world from 1940 when France fell till 1941 when Russia entered the war

These are just four of the numerous idiotic claims made by yourself. You have been asked several times over to back them up. You have skirted answering for the claims by resorting to name-calling, race-baiting, and straight up lying.

Once again, with as much respect as you can muster; please back up your claims that a) only 30% of Americans can read, b) The British education system has been dumbed down due to Americans, and c) Americans are rabid anti-semites

You have skirted the questions in 3 different threads. Time to buck-up.
WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Oct 30, 2009 | #31
libel lol

Give Melissa a break, Nathraq! Wouldn't you consider it libel were any to call you a Melissa? I'd consider it a mortal insult!
OxbridgeExpert  - | 112  
Oct 30, 2009 | #32
anthrax

or

nathraq

or whatever your dumbo name is.

Listen sonny. One cannot prove a negative. You are asking me to prove that I am not someone you are convinced I am.

The onus is on your little slave boy to prove that I am the mysterious Melissa.

You said: "Everyone here is pretty much in a consensus about you"

Yes, everyone here - the retarded, moronic, paranoid lunatics who hang round on this essay scam site like drunks in an alley swigging their hooch and convincing each other that they are the messiah and/pr have seen UFOs.

And no, I shall not do anything a little scrote like you tells me to do - after all, you a a retard; I am very much your intellectual superior, you WB-sucking cheap trick.

Oh I know - let;s play the retard game

WRT is Melissa Madgewick HE HE HE - and the only way you can prove you are not is by writing 'I am a p-hile. 1000 times on here. If you do not then we KNOW you are Melissa.

Got you Melissa!!!!!!

My GOD these dumb Americans are getting even dumber - if this is possible....
pheelyks  
Oct 30, 2009 | #33
One cannot prove a negative.

Wow. You stole this from me, when I said it to you less than 24 hours ago. You really need to get out of this trend, Melissa.

And no, I shall not do anything a little scrote like you tells me to do - after all, you a a retard; I am very much your intellectual superior, you WB-sucking cheap trick.

This statement is rather self-defeating, don't you think, Melissa?
OxbridgeExpert  - | 112  
Oct 30, 2009 | #34
MORON ALERT

Evidence please that I am Melissa - a woman I had never heard of till today.

I'm waiting...
WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Oct 30, 2009 | #35
WRT is Melissa HE HE HE.

No problem at all.
Melissa is MAD
Melissa has asked me to say that she is a pophile (I have no evidence of that so will not speak for myself)
Melissa is a liar
Melissa violates the copyright of others and hold herself above the law.
Melissa is a website thief
Melissa is unapologetically dishonest
Melissa owns Priorityessays, a scam site which is founded upon theft
Melissa owns Classaessays.com, a scam site which is founded upon theft
Melissa owns academicaeducation.com, a scam site which is founded upon theft
Melissa owns academicawriters.com, a scam site which is founded upon theft
Melissa owns mywriteteam.com, a scam site which is founded upon theft
Melissa owns priorityadmissionshelp.com, a scam site which is founded upon theft
Melissa owns theseoxperts.com, a scam site which is founded upon theft
Melissa owns essayscamalert.com, a scam site which is founded upon theft
Melissa owns sydneypetminders.com, a scam site which is founded upon theft
Melissa owns customresearchers.com, a scam site which is founded upon theft

Anything else, Melissa?

Now, naff off, girlie

Your turn, Oxbridge, denounce Melissa.
nathraq  1 | 33  
Oct 30, 2009 | #36
skirting the issue again OxfordExpert

it's this simple:

We still haven't dumbed down to retard levels like the USA but standards have gone down during the past 20 years. The fault of American dumb culture? Yes, in part

OxfordExpert should have responded: No, I can not back up that claim, but I thought of it all by myself using my super-nerd skills I obtained through my massive schooling in Britain.

And FYI, America was named after the Brit Richard Ap Merrick, the chacellor of King Henry Tudwr in 1497

OxfordExpert should have responded: This is a theory puported by various Welsh nationals, not the acedemic world as a whole. But since it is an attack against America (albeit a passive one), I just thought I'd throw this cheap shot in for kicks.

Ever realise that Britain stood ALONE saving the world from 1940 when France fell till 1941 when Russia entered the war

OxfordExpert should have responded: I was totally off the wall with this statement, sorry. I mistakenly thought that the USSR entered WWII in 1941, when they actually entered in 1939, with the Eastern invasion of Poland. Since I gained most of my elementary education in a former Eastern Bloc communist country, we were told that Mother Russia saved the world from capitalism and fascism.

I just did 3 for you to get the ball rolling. You should have no trouble now keeping said ball moving.

If you respond with an insult or other insane America-bashing response, then you just proved my point that you have absolutely no formal university education whatsoever, and basically have no idea what you're talking about. And that will be my proof that you were asking me for.
WritersBeware  
Oct 30, 2009 | #37
One cannot prove a negative.

Stealing again . . . .

essayscam.org/forum/es/essayscamalert-owner-priorityessays-borrows-content-essayscam-org-1326/2/#msg22946

What kind of brazen thief does it take to steal an opponent's previous, victorious rationale and regurgitate it against the same opponent as if it were her own? We have the answer.
pheelyks  
Oct 30, 2009 | #38
I didn't even realize you had posted the same issue in the same thread, or I would have acknowledged it when I made my comment to Melissa. Great minds...
WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Oct 30, 2009 | #39
Go ON nathraq - suck WB - HARDER HARDER HARDER! You dumb illierate American monkey C-sucking HO!

Crass, vulgar and vile ignoramus.

Naff off, girlie.
OxbridgeExpert  - | 112  
Oct 31, 2009 | #40
Oh dear - you Americans simply are too dumb to understand irony, aren't you?

When I said whnat I said - which points out superbly how nathraq is a little slave boy of WB the great big leader of the NOTHINGS on here, I was deliberately being a:

"Crass, vulgar and vile ignoramus."

Because I was mimicking Americans!

Oh dear, not very bright are we you little girlie gang of American idiots!

I am still waiting for even ONE piece of real evidence that IU am someone called 'Melissa'.

There is none. Just saying it does not make it true - you Americans retards think it does, thus PROVING MY POINT that you are retards.

God help anyone whose essays you retards write!!!! Evidence for you just means shouting lies - then saying that because others are shouting lies too, it must be true. Tsss. Nazis in all but name - but then you are from the United States of Racism.

So you retards should offer me your apologies for making such false accusations and claims (though this is an Americans traditions - cf the history of lies Americans believe!).

On your knees (most of your Americans are well used to this position) and apologise - if you do not, then you are guilty of being liars and retards! (I thought I'd steal your argument that nathraq the neanderthal b-boy).

Americans eh...

Go Osama!




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