Does this forum protect against libel? Hello I was wondering if this website (many other like it) have a safeguard against libelous claims? I have a friend who has a legitimate company that is being talked very bad about on this website. I know 90% of his writers in person and we all go out for drinks and talk about how ridiculous this is. What steps are being taken by administrators to prevent real business owners from being hurt here? My uncle is a business lawyer and plans to sue a woman who has posted on this and many sites slandering my friends legitimate company. She did not get paid as a writer because she took 3-4 extra days to turn it in getting the student an F, not fulfilling her contract. Now she spams the internet trying to enact revenge. I think our society as a whole needs to be careful about letting people do this sort of thing.
Sincerely, friend of a REAL business owner, DavidN
David, Jordan Kavoosi is a moron and a loser. I don;t say this out of any personal interaction with him or his companies, but the videos he has posted of himself at "work" pretty much confirm this. My guess is that you are actually Kavoosi yourself (your grammar and usage is atrocious enough to have been written by the same hand as the articles bearing Kavoosi's name that appear on various websites), but I don't really know.
What I do know is that you're a tool, and so is Kavoosi, and people can post pretty much anything they want to on a public forum The burden of proof is on you if you want to go ahead with a libel lawsuit, and you wouldn't be able to hold the owners or operators of the forum accountable--you'd have to go after the poster. Of course, that would give them a chance to file a countersuit for the money they claim Kavoosi owes them (which they might want to do anyway), and it would mean Kavoosi would have to get off his lazy ass and actually work a bit.
DavidN and Pheelyks - I am not going to comment on any specific sites or individuals.
(But actually, Pheelyks the BURDEN OF PROOF is ON YOU to PROVE that someone is a loser, or running a scam site and NOT on them to prove their innocence. Geddit now?)
I am, however, going to point out to everyone that many instances of libel ARE posted on this site all the time, sometimes by writers who have been sacked by essay companies for their poor work I presume; somethimes by unreasonable students who are customers of essay sites and feel wronged somehow; and sometimes by those who just like abusing others, or the competition, not to mention promoting their own essay companies (eg WritersBeware from *********).
Therefore, NO POST on this site should be taken seriously and all using this site should realise that Essay Scam may be not a 100% legitimate and impartial guide to which essays sites are scams and which are good, but merely a forum for anyone to say anything about anyone or any company. It admits as much in its Terms of Use - though sadly the mods do not enforce them, so lies from some posters remain for ever on here. Essay Scam is not a consumer site like WHICH or TRADING STANDARDS, after all, and is not regulated or accountable to anyone.
Remember: the internet allows ANY IDIOT to spout ANY NONSENSE they want to - using it intelligently requires intelligence, constantly in short supply it seems...
The laws on internet libel are not yet fixed, either, and liable to change at any time; for example, some think ISPs are liable, but they refuse to accept this. Americans' obsession with lawyers is second only to their obsession with their emotions! ABSURD!
But the sad fact is? Anyone who trusts what they read here and consider it reliable fact do not deserve to be awarded a degree in anything other than stupidity.
Actually, I as talking to DavidN. Nobody asked the opinion of loudmouthed American blaggers actually. Bye bye.
Thanks for proving my point though - about liars (thanks WRT/Melissa in Australia) and self-obsessed Yanks. Touched a nerve eh?
Rusty - lawyer-worship and self-obsessed, ME ME ME, self help style PC therapy psychobabble are well known American traits. Just turn on your telly eh? I think you're just in denial. QUICK - se a shrink and take some tablets and watch your great fat American god called Oprah!
WB - do shut up you silly bint! IGNORE? Ah yes, very intelligent comment (that's irony by the way - two cent retarded New Jersey broads don't get it...and never will...). We're ALL ignoring you as usual, saddo.
I NOTE NONE OF YOU DENY THAT YOU ARE GUILTY OF LIBEL AND LYING ABOUT OTHER SITES AND INDIVIDUALS TO SABOTAGE THEM. INTERESTING EH...
speaking of laywers and agendas, we should be uniting to storm essaywriters.net offices by force. I expect us all to unite in this. WB, you can get behind that and get us spy photos of their houses, too, right? you too, StudentsBeware? you can work on the local arms cache. I have just the idea to ship in at the end, too!
Rusty - I shall leave the storming other people's property, violence, torture, amorality and murder to the US army, thank you.
I shall also leave the pointless obsession with law suits to my American friends, who will sue anyone for anything or threaten it - though if people are prepared to stand up to American liars...er...lawyers, I mean... the lawyers usually lose. The claims for copyright and trademarks are a case in point - threats from US lawyers mean nothing because the English language does not belong as a possession to anyone. So yes, I could use the phrase 'I'm lovin it' any way I want for any business purpose, and the name McDonalds for me cafe if my name were McDonald. Most Americans are just pig ignorant of the law and think it should be the first, and not last, resort - I blame too much TV and a culture of blame.
I shall also pass on the US obsession with celebrity and your worship of imaginery friends and that great big black whale god called Oprah (a woman so moronic she thinks terrorism is caused by low self-esteem). Oh dear...
And bearing in mind the continual libel and lies being spouted on this forum, I do not really think any of the usual suspects here have a moral leg to stand on actually.
But I shall happily observe anyone trying to close down all the scams in this industry - which is ALL immoral, of course, in encouraging students to cheat...
TO DAVIDN who asks: "
"Does this forum protect against libel?"
No, it doesn't. No forum ever does. The law does, but you'd have to spend a fortune (£50k minmum) to prove your case, then get no payment even if you win unless you are suing a millionaire. Not really worth it then... I'd love to see a test case though...
Rusty - don't take everything so personally. I know plenty of people from a great many countries - though only educated and cultured people, so the Americans I know hate so much about the USA as well.
If I ever became the kind of person who watched Oprah (which we do not get in the UK anyway thank goodness - here she is famous for being a big fat black famous woman, and is not the goddess and spiritual leader she is in USA dumbo land...) then I would know I was becoming a retard... I NEVER watch Oprah and consider her only a role model for mr-ns - only in America could a TV presenter become a billionaire god eh...
WRT - there you go again, spouting lies on this forum instead of addressing the issues. Thereby PROVING to DAVIDN that NO - this forum does not protect against libel. Thankfully, the posters on this site and this site itself have no importance at all, and only mr-ns believe what they read here.
You are JUST the kind of gormless retard who watches Oprah - who probably does have her show on some satellite station or other, but HERE in the UK she is ONLY famous for being famous; in the UK she is a goddess to be worshipped. THAT is the difference. Still, I suppose some uneducated Brits from lower socio-economic groups (like you) watch her regularly.
Defensive? No dumbo - just stating facts. I know this may well be a new concept for you, but do try and keep up or you get to sit on the naughty step, kiddo... I repeat - threats from ANYONE about legal action mean absolutely nothing, and the Yanks are obsessed with threatening like this. Very entertaining actually - their minds are so full of crass TV crap they watch they even talk like a cheap chat shows too. One CANNOT trademark a sentence from the English language - and that is why all US legal threats are idle threats and should be ignored. Some of us know the law, sonny...
Melissa, you'll learn ... one day, you'll learn :)
anks are obsessed with threatening like this. Very entertaining actually - their minds are so full of crass TV crap they watch they even talk like a cheap chat shows too
Wogan? Richard and Judy? Very educational chat shows ... Eastenders, Coronation, Drs, Emmerdale - the very opposite of `crass TV.' Or what about the total fictionalisation of `history' in The Tudors? Was that not an insult to the intellect?
Look - you are not British, you know nothing about the UK and you are definitely not from Oxford, as you repeatedly claimed. Drop the act ... we are not buying it.
threats from ANYONE about legal action mean absolutely nothing
They mean a great deal, kiddo. Was none of that explained to you prior to your ABANDONMENT?
Responding to you is a waste of time. Now, hysterically type out one of your maniacal diatribes, won't read it and won't respond. Melissa = Coventry
WRT - or raving paranoid loonie in need of medication, as I always think of you. You really do live in a strange little paranoid mentalist world of your own, don';t you? Sad.
You YET AGAIN prove that this site does NOTHING to stop libel or lies with your absurd accusations. Sad, lonely loser that you are. Pathetic. Get a job eh...
No, idle threats from idiots mean nothing - as you always prove on this site too. Has anyone EVER been prosecuted or taken to court successfully by any bigmouthed blaggard here? No. So just meaningless threats yet again from American morons and their minions. Funny, actually.
American TV? UTTERLY crap, Really REALLY bad and moronic - like you then. FYI Wogan was a chat show WAY superior to Oprah's pity party moron show, and Wogan was not worshipped as some kind of god either - and the show finished 15 years ago at least - as did Richard and Judy. Oh but YOU'RE IN AUSTRALIA so you wouldn't know eh... YOU HAVE PROVED TO EVERYONE THAT YOU ARE NOT IN THE UK, NUMBNUTS!
The Tudors? A co-production (with Canada) soapy escapist pap-fest made to appeal to the north American market. I watch it for the comedy value - and think how all those dumb Yanks will think it's true history because they do not know any better!
However, British TV is MUCH better than US TV and our radio is infinitely better; put simply, there is NO INTELLIGENCE in US TV or Radio. The ONLY quality is from channels like HBO. End of. And most of Hollywood is rubbish - and most good movies have Brit actors or writers or directors. For example, the British three-part TV drama OCCUPATION is MUCH better than the 'Hurt Locker' with its usual dumb American patriotism and emotionalism.
'WE are not buying it'. Errr who exactly? You and your mummy? Fool.
BOTh those shows no longer run on British TV - which, what with you being down under, will be news to you. Wogan is SO 80s, and Richard and Judy peaked in the 90s and now no longer exists.
By the way, I am in no way defending crap reality UK TV (which the Brits invented - yes, inclusing American Idol) or chat shows or rubbish magazine shows (which these days include Loose Women and Jeremy Kyle and NOT the 80s and 90s shows you mention). I never watch this trash.
And no-one is the UK worships anyone on TV like retard yanks really do worship and emulate in their sad unhealthy lives the great black whale OPRAH! A woman so dumb she thinks terrorism is all caused by low self esteem. DOH!
My point is this: in the USA, this TRASH is ALL THERE IS ON TV!!!! The USA has FAR WORSE shows than the UK and no quality TV AT ALL. NONE! The US news programmes are dumbed down beyond belief (so most dumb yanks will understand them I suppose) so no wonder Americans are so ignorant of everything really, and there is NOTHING in the US of the quality of the best UK news, the best UK BBC radio or the best UK TV drama (except HBO stuff of course). The UK sells all its costume dramas like the Tudor co-production to dumb Americans because they love that crap.
But tell us WRT loonie liar boy - when did you emigrate to Oz - or were you forcibly deported as a criminally insane loonie? Mmm...
Keep watching your fave trash TV programmes - it's save you opening one of those big heavy things called BOOKS which would really make your pinhead ache eh...
WRT, please ignore the blabbering psycho. Instead, let's concentrate on posting evidence and information that would-be victims of fraud will find very enlightening.
Oh do SHUT UP WritersBeware you ********* scammer.
I address the issues and answer lies posted by filth like you. And show you for what you are for all to see.
I EXPOSE you as someone who BREAKS THE RULES of this forum! YES!
I EXPOSE you as a representative of ********* who is attempting to badmouth and hurt the business of legitimate essay sites with your libel and lies. YES!
FOR THAT all students here are grateful - you actually represent no-one but yourself, a sad lonely women who spouts lies and paranoid poison all day long. Nutter!
Now SHUT UP and go away, idiot. We all ignore your rantings anyway. Prat.
Oh do SHUT UP WritersBeware you ********* scammer.
I address the issues and answer lies posted by filth like you. And show you for what you are for all to see.
I EXPOSE you as someone who BREAKS THE RULES of this forum! YES!
I EXPOSE you as a representative of ********* who is attempting to badmouth and hurt the business of legitimate essay sites with your libel and lies. YES!
FOR THAT all students here are grateful - you actually represent no-one but yourself, a sad lonely women who spouts lies and paranoid poison all day long. Nutter!
Now SHUT UP and go away, idiot. We all ignore your rantings anyway. Prat.
P.S. Only MORONS post videos from trashy websites - only trailer trash retards who cannot write or read books or answer questions. It PROVES you are DESPERATE! HA HA HA! Loser.
As you get all your information on the UK from the Internet, not at all surprising that you don't know that Wogan specials air or believe that Richard and Judy went out in the 90's :)
Your industry knowledge is ZERO; your general knowledge is ZERO; you know nothing of the law and your current hatred of lawyers is understandable :)
Posting here makes you feel important. It is an escape from your reality. None re buying your lies, however, and all know that you are nothing but an hysterical loon :)
Ok - let's suppose that you are British (your ancestors may have been) and are from Oxford. Prove it by answering this: are you a civilian? a member? Any who have ever been to Oxford will know what this means ... Do you?
WRT - as usual the Australian loonie has his tongue up his mummy WritersBeware - a pairing of liars and libellers who no-one ever listens to.
WRT your knowledge of the UK was gleaned from watching syndicated shows in Australia as you well know. Thank god we deported trash like you eh... Neither Wogan or Richard and Judy air in the UK. OK? IDIOT!
I know everything about the law and do not hate lawyers at all - in fact, I LOVE English law and how it has civilised the world. But what I hate is idle threats by American losers like WB who are addicted to threatening legal action - to anyone, all the time, and with no evidence to back up their lies and hate campaigns. Americans eh... They are all like the world's ugly acne-faced younger retard brother.
WRT - sniffing your mummy again eh dingo puppy boy?
"Instead, let's concentrate on posting evidence and information that would-be victims of fraud will find very enlightening."
YES - which is all I do. Sadly, I have to put up with abuse and lies and libel and false accusations and threats and nutter-talk from WB, WRT and the usual gang of misfits.
I am the only one here who has actually given the original poster a straight answer! No idea what you WRT and WB are prattling about...
A also KNOW that many here appreciate it that people like me are prepared to stand up to that hotair spouter WritersBeware and to expose her as a representative of ********* who has a vested interest in maligning and disparaging legitimate companies.
This forum could be good. Sadly, posters like WB and WRT ruin it by vomiting lies on here and attacking legitimate websites and individuals. Thus this site is pointless because it is itself a scam if it claims to be a legitimate source of information about essay sites' legitimacy. It is not. It is just a forum for gossip and rumour and deliberate hate campaigns by saddos.
Now children, either contribute in an intellignet was or BOG OFF!
My uncle is a business lawyer and plans to sue a woman who has posted on this and many sites slandering my friends legitimate company.
On what basis is your `lawyer uncle' planning to sue the writer? Did Jordan ask him to? If so and supposing your uncle agreed, he is not very aware of your `friend's' business practices. Kavoosi has defrauded not one, but several writers and accusations of non payment follow him everywhere. Furthermore, his lying about his industry experience, qualifications, etc., is consumer fraud.
Please update us on the status of the lawsuit. Suing someone for telling the truth would be a very interesting first :)
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The company has a *DND list that offers the forum protection from lawsuits. St does not protect those who post against being sued for libel. They will legally cooperate with an investigation but, because users offer no private data when they sign-up, they do not really believe they can be of much help. Writers that register for paid promotional services are covered by data protection laws so only a court order can make them surrender user information.
Why would anyone willingly post a message that they know has libelous content to begin with? Nobody accidentally commits libel, not in this very litigious era that we live in. Everyone knows libel repercussions are swift in coming through community guidelines, even before the lawsuit is filed. There is no SM form that protects its users from libel suits. This forum is no exception . Think before you type, review before you hit Post. If you feel whatyou wrote maybe seen as libelous, delete it. Do not expect others to protect you from shooting yourself in the foot. Protect yourself from libel. If you do not have anything nice or useful to say, then keep quiet. That is how you protect yourself from libel.
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