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Students - be careful with your personal details.


dreamer  
Nov 05, 2009 | #1
This is a message to the students alone.

Last year, there were instances of unethical writing companies misusing the personal details of students, especially of those students, who dared to complain that the papers they received were sub-standard. Be very careful when you give personal details and uni name to the essay companies. You can use a parent's/friend's credit card for payment. You should never give the university name to any one. Many students were thrown out of the universities when the essay company wrote that the papers were bought from them.

It is necessary to apply caution.
Major  35 | 1449 ☆☆  
Nov 05, 2009 | #2
I guess in most cases (if that has happened) the reason was not the student complaints but the fact the students wanted to get a paper without paying for it.
OP dreamer  
Nov 05, 2009 | #3
the students wanted to get a paper without paying for it.

Payment was made before the paper arrived.
Major  35 | 1449 ☆☆  
Nov 05, 2009 | #4
Right, but after the paper arrived student could try to do a chargeback by claiming he's never received the paper etc.
OxbridgeExpert  - | 112  
Nov 05, 2009 | #5
Oh but I thought that all these moral essay companies sold students essays just to use as models and no students were handing in their essays as their own.

It seems many here are mistaken after all.

And surely students who - for example - use stolen credit cards deserve anything the get from any company? And students who try and blatantly cheat don't deserve to be at university? Surely they just devalue education and cheat all other students?

Thank you dreamer for sharing your dream...
OP dreamer  
Nov 05, 2009 | #6
I am an essay-dependent student and work in student groups and councils as an adviser. I thought this information might be useful to fellow-students. Sometimes I write to other students and caution them, after one or two similar incidents took place within our vast student network. I fail to understand why it should excite writers like you. It has nothing to do with you. I will leave you writers to your sarcasm and abusive language. I will be happy if students take notice of my post.
WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Nov 07, 2009 | #7
Dreamer, I understand that some people had a rotten experience with Richardson. However, as Major pointed out, no reputable company goes down that road unless students aretrying to scam them. Yes, payment is supposed to be upfront but there are always chargebacks, stolen credit cards, etc. In cases such as those, you can hardly blame the company.
OP dreamer  
Nov 07, 2009 | #8
you can hardly blame the company

I have not blamed any company. Just requested the students to be more careful.
WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Nov 07, 2009 | #9
Is Richardon still around?
OP pheelyks  
Nov 07, 2009 | #10
It would make no sense fo a business to do this unless provoked; not only are they going to quite certainly lose the customer(s) directly affected, but they will likely lose a lot more business through word of mouth/possible media coverage.
AsianWriter  - | 162  
Nov 07, 2009 | #11
I'm sure Melissa would do it. Don't you think so, OE?
WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Nov 07, 2009 | #12
I am sure she would, just for the fun of it :)
Smiley73  4 | 591 ☆☆  
Nov 01, 2017 | #13
Student Data ProtectStudents are not required to send any identifiable information in the first place.

The name of the student will be received automatically when the student pays for the order.

However, the other private information such as the university the student attends, the phone number of the person, the address, and the name of the professor are things that should remain forever unknown to the writer.

Unless of course the student is dumb enough to ask the writer to write the cover page for them and offers this information of his / her own volition.

Yes, there are students who could serve as a cautionary tale with regards to these instances. However, the students themselves don't protect themselves from these problems because some of them are just too lazy to work on a simple cover page.

Or, some just don't care about protecting their personal information because we live in a day and age of open information exchange. Being cautious is not something they have to be reminded about. It is something that should be standard practice for essay writing company dependent students.

Use EssayJob if you want to protect your personal information.
Write Review  1 | 546 ☆☆  
Jan 11, 2019 | #14
With privacy rapidly becoming a major concern and bone of contention between students, outsourcing companies, and hired academic writers, the students have become paranoid and apprehensive about placing orders directly with writers or academic outsourcing companies. That is why a change has long been required in the industry when it comes to client information privacy in relation to order placement,

A form of placing academic writing orders that does not require the student to give up any personal information to a writer or a company is well on its way. An open and free market where students are free to choose a company or a freelance writer, without needing to give up any personal information; nary an email address or payment preference. Neither will the potential client be required to create an account or immediately create a login pass just to get a price quote.

A place where the student can assuredly steer clear of company scams and writer / writing company blackmail schemes because the system protects the private student information eventually submitted ( as per contact details requirements) and masks it whenever it is imperative to do so. A place where the students are in charge, not the writer nor the academic writing company. No middle - person will ever be used.

A system that is pro-student for all intents and purposes. An academic writing market located in a private and individualized forum for the student client. A student identity and contact protected forum where the student will be in full control of order inquiries, order placement, and personal information sharing (the option not to share any information will be available, unless required by certain order placement situations) with their writer or preferred writing company. All for free.

It won't be long before a system like that comes into play. Students will rejoice at the launch of the service. I do believe that such a system is forthcoming. Students need to only look around, it may be just under their noses...
Study Review  - | 254  
Jul 29, 2019 | #15
I'm particularly interested in how people would be able to fully realize the lapses in the industry currently. There's a lack of protection for both clients and writers alike all throughout. The prior comment appears to be rather idealistic with its goals more than anything else. The best we can do is to stop being to attracted to companies that only aim to scam at the end.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Jul 29, 2019 | #16
As always, the only reliable way for clients to protect their interests continues to be doing some basic research first (starting with information available on this forum) about any service provider and then placing a small order for a project with a relatively long deadline before trusting anybody with a much larger pre-paid project. To do that on this forum, use the search function but always change the default "topic titles" to "messages" so your search results aren't severely limited. Once you receive high-quality work from that provider, you know you're dealing with someone legitimate and reliable. The only reliable way for writers to protect their interests continues to be avoiding anything other than full payment in advance for any project (or any portion of any project ordered) before scheduling or working on it. Nothing about that will ever change, simply because no experienced writer who already has enough work to keep busy is ever going to agree to provide any work that hasn't already been paid for in full.

No other arrangement (such as half payment in advance and half payment on delivery of a complete project) will protect writers, because it still requires writing half a project that hasn't yet been paid for. That's why no essay company (or any other online service provider or retailer in any other industry) ever accepts anything less than payment in full for any project to schedule it. The only reasonable thing customers can do to limit their risk is test a new writer with a small project and/or order your first large project in pre-paid sections if you don't already know that you can trust the writer.
Study Review  - | 254  
Jul 29, 2019 | #17
The only reasonable thing customers can do to limit their risk is test a new writer with a small project

This part is critical. It is also essential that students or customers do not fully trust writers immensely, especially when they're new to using these services. Do not just go out of your way to order immediately a 50-page paper from a website or a writer regardless of how credible it may seem. The best way to protect yourself and your grades is by ensuring that, in case the writer or company rips you off, you are consistently on top of your game in the instance that something falls off the line.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Aug 20, 2019 | #18
While I've been preaching the small-project-first-as-a-test approach here for years, I still get regular orders for huge projects from first-time clients fairly regularly. By the time they contact me, there's barely enough time to do the project, so testing me with a smaller project or breaking up the large one into smaller sections is simply no longer an option if they want to make their deadlines.
Study Review  - | 254  
Oct 31, 2019 | #19
@FreelanceWriter
I agree with this. I do feel as though certain clients have to learn how to accommodate to writers who take up these huge writing projects within a shorter time frame (rush orders). I have experienced having a client who had bombarded me with messages because he was disappointed with the output. He had demanded a refund despite of the fact that we already had an agreement beforehand about the conditions of the payment. Because he had given the order to me in a short time frame, being able to revise before turning in the project was a huge feat that I had to tackle. It was a loss-and-loss situation regardless.
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
Feb 03, 2020 | #20
I will assume that most students these days are already conscious of the need to protect their private information, regardless of whether it be when hiring a direct writer or a writing company. Always use a prepaid card so that only selected information will be taken from when the deal is closed. There is no need to give out the university name, professor name, student ID number, or anything of the sort. All the writer needs is your email address, the email address you use for digital payments, and the deadline for your paper. Anything else should be protected. Don't hire a writer or company that asks for too much information regarding your student details. It's better to be safe than sorry.




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