Teachers know about this site?

Does anyone know how many teachers know about this site? I'm going to order a paper but I don't want them to know about it. I'm going to use the paper as a starting point to my own research, but still I'm a little nervous that it may not be totally allowed by college? What is the latest opinion on using academic aids or writing tutorials? Thanks.

Why are you asking? Is there anything you wanna hide?

No, I'm just going on vacation for a few days (4th of July) and won't be able to complete my essay on time. It's due on Wed morning and I'll be back on Tue night.

Based on some comments here - you should be fine as long as you don't try to trick the site you ordered from...:} However, it seems your writing is good - why didn't you write it yourself? I"m sure you had more than a day to complete it.

If I found this site, they will find it too lol..

I'm not happy now... :|. I do not want to cheat either. But I have no choice. I would have asked my friend but she'll be out of town too. Any recommendations where to turn for help?

I understand - from time to time I have to order an example essay myself. I recommend you to go to google or other search engine and find the best deal there -- there are many competing sites out there. You may also check some previous posts on this forum. Make sure you don't buy cheap :).

I know they do - at least in my college where an English teacher ordered us to do a homework: Find at least 5 useful online resources preventing students from commiting academic plagiarism. Some people wrote about Turnitin, some about other anti-plagiarism organizations. One student found this site and this is how I found it too. But I doubt they visit this site often - most of them don't want to know about the issue.

If you don't cheat, they won't catch you :). My suggestion is - order a paper but rewrite it yourself, using your own words and phrases. That way you will sleep better at night just like me now ;).

i bet teachers know this site, but so what if they do?

Ya, I doubt teachers will be able to track anyone down based on the content of this forum.

Whew! Way to lay that five-year-old worry to rest! You realize you're supposed to make posts that actually [i]contribute[/i to the forum in order to get PMing privileges, right?

Sure teachers know about this website and then some.

How many know about it is something that cannot be accurately quantified. There is no problem about teachers knowing about this website in particular because it does not directly advertise nor promote any specific writing service. Add to that the fact that endorsements from the independent writer participants here is a violation of forum rules.

So I don't see why you should be worried if your teacher knows about this website. There is a vast difference between the academic writing websites that you see and the function of this forum. We help students stay away from scams and give advice as to how to spot the illegitimate writing websites and writers. We don't directly write the papers here.

Although, you could look up reputable writers and websites that advertise here via the EssayBrand and EssayChat. What goes on there though, is between the writer and the person who contacts him. The website is not related to nor liable for anything that comes out of agreements finalized in those areas.

Teachers know about the writing services, don't pretend to be dumb about it. Sometimes, the students get a service so bad that the teacher can automatically tell that he bought the paper. So the job of preventing that from happening rests in your hands as the student requesting for a model paper. We can only guide you through the selection process.

@Smiley73 hit the nail on the head. Since this forum is not engaged in the business of academic writing, there is no problem with teachers knowing about this website, if they know about it at all. The function of this site is to help students decide whether they would like to have someone else write their paper for them or, if they think they can write the paper themselves. It isn't difficult to see why this website would even be applauded by academics because the forum tries to protect the students from being conned by writing companies or writers of ill repute. The forum actually helps open the eyes of the student to the reality of outsourced academic writing with all of its benefits and pitfalls.

I am familiar with a teacher who had come across this website in the past. Once he understood how the forum works and what its purpose is, he even began recommending the site to students, because he knew that there was a great chance they would pay for their writing work anyway. He preferred the students enter the world of paid academic writing with their eyes wide open. I was happy to learn that his students opted to write their papers themselves after being exposed to the various discussion topics at this website. While that was a loss of business for me, I am never one to frown upon students who are in school and decide to do the work for themselves in the name of learning.

I can say with reasonable confidence that a large number of teachers, at all levels, probably have no idea that services such as ours exist. When they do find out, they tend to exhibit the same sort of shock that parents show when they find out their beloved son watches pornography on his computer.

This used to bother me, but it doesn't anymore. I know - even if they don't - that the work I do as a professional academic writer is not just ethical, but helpful to hundreds of students who otherwise may not have had a clue as to how to approach a particular written work. I know that having a model paper in front of them can really help the kind of student who benefits from having an example to follow. In the end, it doesn't matter whether or not teachers know we exist; it just matters that we know what we're doing, and that we do our very best work for our clients.

I'd very strongly disagree with that. If they didn't know these kinds of services existed, they wouldn't require students to submit their work to turnitin. That practice evolved precisely because essay companies used to do a ton of business reselling pre-written essays and it basically created the market for original custom essays. Before the Internet age, pre-written essays were mostly retyped from the hardcopy essay collections maintained by fraternities, for which a service such as turnitin would have been useless. In my view, the popularity of turnitin among professors suggests very strongly that they are very aware that this industry exists. It's not effective against custom-written original essays, but they know that it is still extremely effective against the product that dominated this industry until roughly 2007 and, in their minds, at least it reduces cheating because it forces their students to go with a much more expensive option.


What percentage of your customers do you think really use your work only as model for their own work rather than submitting it for a grade?

What an incredible teacher to have been found! I would love to meet with him/her in person. Probably, this guy was running a model paper mill him/herself. lol :-p

The treatment of the academic writing profession should always be treated as a regular job. Plainly, because I think that the moral and ethical angle of the work has a lot of ingrained subjectivity from the writers, then there isn't a point to tackle this angle. Others would see it as unethical, whereas there are some who think that it plainly just giving out writing services to the clients. Do I personally think that I am depriving the clients of their own space to learn? Not necessarily. Through engaging with clients, a lot of them are actually smart individuals who simply do not have the time (because of personal reasons) to be able to produce a twenty-page paper within a short period. Because of this reason, they come to our services.

I also presume that teachers are well-aware that these services exist. The essay writing industry has been around for as long as education has been. People have been writing for others for decades already. What is only different is that a great majority of these people have now migrated to providing the said service online because it enhances the scope of the work that is to be conducted. In that regard, there are no longer limitations in the possibility of clients because you can reach out to anyone in the world, making it easier to do business.

I do not think that ordering a paper and rewriting it makes a whole lot of sense. It defeats the very purpose of saving time from writing the paper yourself. Just get a trustworthy writer and deal with it as efficiently as possible.

I doubt many teachers actually know about this particular forum; but there's no doubt they all know about this industry, which is why it's now standard practice to require students to submit their work to turnitin.

Using writing aids and tutorials outside of the university student assistance center is still totally frowned upon. Teachers and professors mostly prefer that you do the work on your own, regardless of the mistakes you might make. There are writing centers at universities where students who need writing helps can go to have their work reviewed free of charge. Now, while teachers are normally expected to frown upon the writer for hire business, there are some who realize its benefits, for themselves. There are some teachers who actually know about this site, but will not admit it openly. Don't be fooled. Teachers who do come here are most likely looking for writing jobs on the side themselves. The business is basically an open secret after all.