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Tips for Getting Your Orders Taken by Writers Once Ordered



OP FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Dec 03, 2009 | #41
FW: Ah, so you posted your writing areas as a response to lies about a reputable company? Oh, that explains everything.

I posted my areas of writing in response to the inquiries about my taking a paper that was already placed on a site for whom I provide writing. I don't want my good reputation with students on this site to make extra work for the administrators of the commercial sites who use me by having to amend orders on the board that request me totally outside of my areas. My point about your defaming a reputable company was strictly in relation to your use of the word "classy."

You have a very warped sense of morals being so concerned about what you believe is a violation of the rules of an Internet forum while you use the same forum to post outright lies defaming an honest company falsely because you can't compete with them honestly. If my post was a violation of forum rules even in its context, I apologize to the forum. Meanwhile, your misuse of the forum is something that undermines the value of the forum much more than mine and your misuse is actually addressed by areas of civil law that I hope the victims make use of to the fullest. In any case, it's a little warped on your part to be more concerned about forum rules than about the rules of civil law.

No response to WB agreeing that you broke the rules, again, huh? Pity that ban didn't teach you anything.

I apologize to the forum if my post was still a violation in that context. I did learn from being suspended once for 30 days more than a year ago and have not advertised for clients again since that suspension. If WB says my post was a violation in context, I accept her criticism.

As for insults, referring to you and stupid4 as a$$holes is hardly an "insult"; it's strictly an objective observation.
Lavinia  4 | 495 ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Dec 03, 2009 | #42
You have a very warped sense of morals.

This is a lie. What honest company have I defamed? Prove this or shut up. Over 500 posts by me to go through on this forum and you won't find a single one involving an outright lie against an honest company. My comment about being "classy" wasn't directed at the company you work for but at your willingness to quickly descend into vulgarity when you're confronted for your behavior. Again, your lousy reading comprehension skills get the better of you.

In any case, it's a little warped on your part to be more concerned about forum rules than about the rules of civil law.

More lies by you. What civil law am I breaking? Who am I defaming? You accused me of being a foreign crook the last time I called you out for advertising on this forum, you're the only one who's engaged in defamation. I'm starting to really wonder if you really have a law degree now lol.

I'm an American writer and I work for only legit companies. Anyone who's read my posts knows that. We may even work for some of the same companies.

I'm also a writer who has managed to be a member of the forum for a lot longer without getting banned b/c I don't break the rules. The difference between you and me is that I honor the rules of this forum while you use it to w*0re your services. You make the rest of the writers who visit this forum look bad and you make the companies that you work for, particularly ET, look bad.
WritersBeware  
Dec 03, 2009 | #43
Lavinia & FW:

Can we all put aside petty differences and focus on what really matters? Fraudsters like stu4 read our in-fighting and take a deep sigh of relief. You know why? They know that if we were to unite and direct all of our combined energy on a focused, sustained campaign to expose their consumer fraud, they couldn't possibly hide. Exposing fraud benefits everyone-customers, writers, and law-abiding companies. How about it?
OP FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Dec 03, 2009 | #44
No problem. I didn't start out commenting about or insulting anybody; I responded to a customer and was attacked by someone who's upset that I included my writing areas in that response to a customer. You agreed that it was a forum rules violation. I apologized already and have no beef with anybody about it at all.

More lies by you. What civil law am I breaking? Who am I defaming?

I may be guilty of not bothering to doublecheck to see who said what. I thought it was you who said something about ET being a rip-off site and that's what I was responding to. But you're guilty of the exact same thing: I'm sure I never called you a "foreign crook" because I have zero info or knowledge about any websites (whether positive or negative) other than the ones who use my writing and I've never said anything negativeabout any essay site in anything I've ever written on this forum. Unless you're one of the people who is an ESL writer arguing that American customers have no right to knowthat you're ESL, I would never have authored a single post about anybody being "foreign" or a "crook."You're probably confusing WB's posts with mine.

On the topic of my law degree, I don't care what you think but nobody needs a formal degree of any kind to know that you can't "defame" an anonymous Internet forum screen name but you can definitelydefame a business or website by name.
rorshach  - | 17  
Dec 04, 2009 | #45
ok, so i have an unexpected medical situation monopolizing my time and need assistance meeting a deadline and am quite leery of getting the wrong help, from the wrong company - how to filter the good from the bad and get legitimate and neccessary assistance? especially with a portion of my paper needing basic spss data performed/included?
WritersBeware  
Dec 04, 2009 | #46
1. Off-topic;

2. Recommendations are not allowed;

3. Watchmen was just "OK." I could have done without the blue dong for half of the damn movie.
Lavinia  4 | 495 ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Dec 04, 2009 | #47
I may be guilty of not bothering to doublecheck to see who said what.

That's woefully apparent.

But you're guilty of the exact same thing: I'm sure I never called you a "foreign crook".

Nope, again, either a lie by you or an example of a very faulty memory. Which is it?

I'm not "guilty of the exact same thing." Unlike you, I make sure I know what I'm talking about before I post. I'll gladly refresh your memory however. This thread:

https://essayscam.org/forum/es/legitimate-writing-sites-347/#msg13257.

This comment:

Anybody here happen to know if the C-word is allowed when it's totally appropriate and accurate? Just curious.

Called me the C-word and then accused me of working for a foreign company that lies about its location, lies about its writers' quals and cheats customers. All you, all false and without a shred of evidence.

In fact, your accusation was so off base that not only did I deny it, but WB also corrected you:

I don't think that she works for any of the foreign frauds.

Now, you didn't bother to answer after being corrected by both of us but apparently that didn't get through your thick skull b/c now you're back to the same accusation a few months later.

My approach to this forum is pretty simple. If you don't A) use it to advertise your services or B) make dishonest statements, you won't have a problem with me. Unfortunately, you seem to make a habit of doing both.

You should really just stop posting now. I'll believe your "apology" is sincere when you edit your post removing the information about your subject areas. Until you do, it's clear you're just leaving it up to continue to promote yourself.

WB - I appreciate your sentiment and planned to stop until FW's latest post. Since FW's now established a pattern of lying about who I work for, figured here is as good a place as any to keep track of the accusations, for when he does it again in a couple of months.
OP FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Dec 04, 2009 | #48
Believe it or not, I'm not worried about what you think and I don't consider your opinion of me a "problem" regardless of how bad it is. I've never "lied" about anything on this forum, especially about any websites that I don't write for, because I've repeatedly admitted openly that I don't know anything about any other websites.

WB - I appreciate your sentiment and planned to stop until FW's latest post.

I thought we were done too. I have no idea which website is yours and already apologized if I accidentally imputed to you what WB said about someone else in that thread months ago.

Called me the C-word and then accused me of working for a foreign company that lies about its location, lies about its writers' quals and cheats customers.

I guess I just don't care enough about these conversation to do extensive research for them. I'm also guessing I was just referring back to whatever I thought WB had posted about where your company is located in that thread. But where have I said anything about your website "months later"? I have zero knowledge about any websites other that the ones that use me and I've never claimed to. I don't even have any idea which site is yours and couldn't care less. If I misunderstood which website WB was referring to in that old thread and I imputed it to yours, I apologize sincerely. But as far as "evidence" goes, I believe I'm completely covered on the c-word thing by a legal doctrine called res ipsa loquitor.
rorshach  - | 17  
Dec 04, 2009 | #49
1.) sort of - it would be nice to make sure any order i make is selected by an actual writer ;)
2.) on that aspect, agreed ;)
3.) understood, which is why i'm looking for help/direction with filtering approach, not a recommendation ;)
Lavinia  4 | 495 ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Dec 04, 2009 | #50
I actually don't believe you. If you didn't care, you wouldn't take the time to make up lies.

I've never "lied" about anything on this forum,

So your claim that I work for fraudulent websites that lie to and cheat their customers was what? A fiction? A hypothetical?

Face it, you've lied about me twice now and you're busted. Once could have been a mistake, but repeating the lie again after being corrected by two people? Nah...

I guess I just don't care enough about these conversation to do extensive research for them.

B/c lying is so much easier.

But where have I said anything about your website "months later"?

You lied about who I worked for in April and you did it again in December. In both cases, you suggest I work for frauds that can't compete with your employers, even though you know nothing about my employment situation. Hence, "months later." Are you caught up in the conversation yet?

I have zero knowledge about any websites other that the ones that use me and I've never claimed to.

And yet, that doesn't stop you from typing...

In December:

while you use the same forum to post outright lies defaming an honest company falsely because you can't compete with them honestly

In April:

it's not a "rip-off" let alone a blatant one, especially in an environment where there are companies like yours who lie about where they're located, who their writers are, or may never even provide ANY essay after charging and arm and a leg for them.

I don't even have any idea which site is yours and couldn't care less.

Stop posting like you do.

If I misunderstood which website WB was referring to in that old thread and I imputed it to yours, I apologize sincerely.

Your apologies are worth nothing. You "apologize" about advertising yourself but don't remove the post. Then, you "apologize" about lying about me (again) but keep using vulglar language (justified by a blatant misuse of a legal concept lol... so this is why you write instead of practice, huh?). Everything you write suggests that you'll just repeat the lie in a couple of months and then claim your ignorance as a defense.

String together some more Latin in your next post to try to sound sm3rter.
pheelyks  
Dec 04, 2009 | #51
(justified by a blatant misuse of a legal concept lol... so this is why you write instead of practice, huh?)

I had to look it up (not a lawyer and don't speak much Latin), but both the actual translation and the common usage of the term were humorously and aptly applicable in context, though one might disagree with its veracity.
Lavinia  4 | 495 ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Dec 04, 2009 | #52
Maybe at a superficial level Pheelyks. Res ispa only works if the plaintiff didn't contribute to the behavior. FW's lies and advertising would negate that application. Prima facia would have been funnier.

But then the real humor is FW bringing up an evidentiary standard at all. Though maybe that is more irony rather than humor.
pheelyks  
Dec 04, 2009 | #53
Actually, the translation of res ipsa locutor as "the thing speaks for itself" is much funnier given the word in question. And as far as the plaintiff (FW, I assume) contributing to the behavior, that would be a devilish little bit of hand puppetry.
WritersBeware  
Dec 04, 2009 | #54
I'll believe [FreelanceWriter's] "apology" is sincere when [he edits his] post removing the information about [his] subject areas.

Only the mod can do that.
Lavinia  4 | 495 ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Dec 04, 2009 | #55
And that's convenient, isn't it? So FW gets to wash himself of wrongdoing with an insincere apology while his advertising stays up.

If FW were actually sincere, he could easily contact the mod to request it be changed.
WritersBeware  
Dec 04, 2009 | #56
"Only the mod can do that" is an introduction.
OP FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Dec 04, 2009 | #57
And as far as the plaintiff (FW, I assume) contributing to the behavior, that would be a devilish little bit of hand puppetry.

I'd rather put my hand in a wood chipper.
pheelyks  
Dec 04, 2009 | #58
Fewer teeth?
Plss  1 | 4  
Dec 27, 2009 | #59
I am very interested in speaking more with you on the topic of academic writing. I work for one great company and am looking for a few others who are reputable, but cannot send you a pm due to the fact I am a new member. Could you send "me" a message through the pm feature, please, and I will provide my email address to you:)

Thanks
WritersBeware  
Dec 27, 2009 | #60
cannot send you a pm due to the fact I am a new member

Why do you think that is, piss? It's to discourage commercial spammers and self-promoting.
Plss  1 | 4  
Dec 27, 2009 | #61
Actually, it isn't "piss", but rather plss. I am not self-promoting nor spamming; I have been watching these forums and have seen negatives of many sorts from several companies. Apparently freelancewriter knows of some which are reputable and good. That is all I was asking and I was not being rude, nor sarcastic. Thanks.
OP FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Dec 27, 2009 | #62
Actually, WB knows a lot more than I do about it. My experience is strictly limited to the companies that use me; I've never had a bad experience with a writing company and I don't know anything about any other companies (good or bad) except whatever I've read on these forums. I've listed the half-dozen or so companies with which I'm familiar in several previous posts that are easily searchable.
Plss  1 | 4  
Dec 28, 2009 | #63
Thank you very much for the information. I actually applied with ********* due to the fact you and WB have said so many things about it. We will see what happens. Again, I appreciate it.
nish82  - | 4  
Dec 30, 2009 | #64
what about essaywriters.net? Is there more fraud to it?
AtWitsEnd  - | 2  
Jan 30, 2010 | #65
Freelancewriter and WritersBeware, thanks for your forum posts.
They've been very helpful.
notmartha  1 | 2  
Feb 02, 2010 | #66
Yes I agree, both of you have been very helpful.

Freelance do you mind sending me your email so I could contact you for obvious reasons :p
OP FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Feb 02, 2010 | #67
Freelance do you mind sending me your email so I could contact you for obvious reasons

Unfortunately, my outgoing PM privileges have been suspended and you need at least 10 posts to send any yourself. If you'd like my advice about how not to get ripped off as a customer of this industry, you can find me very easily on AOL.

I'm assuming that's the obvious reason you have in mind. Thank you for asking.
WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Feb 03, 2010 | #68
you can find me very easily on AOL.

Freelancewriter - I looked you up on elance and your resume is impressive. Am sure that you have no shortage of cl***s. You are one of the handful of posters I like. But ... you are better than that and should not be violating forum policies. Plus, countless will use these posts against you and E***.
OP FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Feb 03, 2010 | #69
Thanks and point taken. On the other hand, I no longer have outgoing PM privileges here and someone who expresses an unsolicited interest in contacting me doesn't have any way of knowing that. If I still had PM privileges, I could have just responded privately via PM that I can be reached through my email address. I'm assuming forum members are allowed to exchange email addresses through PMs here if one forum member happens to ask another forum member for an email address, right?
WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Feb 03, 2010 | #70
I'm not at all sure but I believe that if you are asked, why not?

someone who expresses an unsolicited interest in contacting me doesn't have any way of knowing that.

I see your point but just take a look at this thread alone. People just pounce. As you yourself wrote the other day, a certain `calibre' of `writers' (I use that term loosely) are intent on bringing the real writers down. Anything becomes an excuse for illogical/senseless attacks. As you are one of the good ones out there, don't give any an excuse.
ih8writing  - | 14  
Feb 03, 2010 | #71
Ok, this thread was informative and entertaining....
hensiku  - | 10  
Mar 02, 2010 | #72
Freelancer writer,

I have some business I would like to discuss with you.

Can you please email me at @hotmail?

Thanks!
WritersBeware  
Mar 02, 2010 | #73
at @hotmail

Bravo to the mod (if, indeed, the mod edited it)!

This is a PUBLIC forum.
hensiku  - | 10  
Mar 02, 2010 | #74
what's wrong with him emailing me?

I want some confidentiality in our conversation so I can't ask him?
OP FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Mar 03, 2010 | #75
Sorry I missed your post. I'm no longer allowed to send PMs but I believe I'm still allowed to receive them if you want to ask my opinion privately about any essay companies that might or might not be scams.
Lilla  - | 1  
Dec 12, 2010 | #76
Thank you for the advice, I'll try to follow it. I've been going a bit crazy trying to find a reliable site. I was about to pay for an apparently disreputable site according to this forum, and I was saved just in time! It's a bummer that you can only contact someone after posting five comments though. That's a bit unfair. But anyway....
AmonsEssays  2 | 190  
Dec 18, 2010 | #77
I hate APA formatting.

I'd say that unless the instructor specifies it, don't specify a type of citation format. Any good writer will use one of the standards or use a format that tells the instructor the relevant information (name, title of article, title of journal and/or source of publication, date of publication, URL and date of access if a site - and frankly, given how much is on the Internet these days, most things SHOULD have a UR, etc.)
WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Dec 18, 2010 | #78
I don't mind APA but prefer footnotes (Chicago). MLA is the one I hate :(
OP FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Jul 10, 2011 | #79
I'm bumping this thread because I've seen so many orders like this recently:

Topic __________
Course_________

Order Description: I'm sending an email with all the info. Please contact me with any questions. Thank you for your help!

-------------

Let me tell you what most of the better/more experienced writers do with those orders:

We can't click the "Remove This Order From My Screen" button fast enough.

Let me tell you why:

It can take 6-12 hours for your emails or files to get posted on our systems. To consider taking your order, we would have to check on it continually to see whether the files have posted yet...and then we'd have to D/L those files just to find out the topic of your paper that's supposed to be provided. Meanwhile, if you would just fill in the appropriate info on the order form, we can usually tell immediately from that whether it's an order we'd have any interest in checking later for the files. Many times, we can just take the order without the files and then wait for them before we actually start writing.

If you want to increase the chance that anybody will actually take your order and if you would prefer some of the better writers who can afford not to be bothered with any 2-pg or 4-pg papers that already start off as headaches from the moment they appear on the board, please fill out the requested info.

Also, there is no need to send us a file that just repeats the info you posted in your order. If you do that, we have no choice but to wait 6-12 hours before even starting your paper because we have to assume that the files are necessary for the order.

This is much more for your benefit than mine, but thank you nevertheless.
pheelyks  
Jul 16, 2011 | #80
Also, using the order description field to explain why you're angry about your last order instead of putting any description of what you want at all, then posting six messages within an hour recalling the same issue, probably isn't the best way to ensure a writer actually wants to take your order.




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