WB - do you think C(h)aC(h)a might be slightly mad, as in crazy? If not, s/he certainly acts the part well.

C(h)aC(h)a, why did the forum mods kick you off the forum and suspend your other account?

When all is said and done, I must admit that you are a wonderfully entertaining person. A joke which lives and breathes. Please send some more posts my way :)

Your English is really very bad! You managed to make spelling mistakes while quoting! That is really very sad.

Ok - for the upteenth time - I did not mention my site (so it is not self-promotion) and my username does not lead to my site. How about criticising on the basis of reality and not your illusions?

I am trying to ignore your horrid English - well, if honesty is a marketing tactic, I like it. Don't you think it's better than dishonesty as a marketing tactic?

Researcher - the day I consider essaybrunch competition, I will close shop :) I intend to operate a legit business, not a joke. Our writers are qualified (both linguistically and academically) researchers are not singing cooks (remember the sing up Chabcha?), employed at a diner which serves customers indigestible fried essays. When essaybrunch becomes competition, that means I have become a joke and should close shop and slit my wrists :)


The dancing fool is linguistically and intellectilly challanged - he picked out a post in which I provided a general guideline for selection (without mentioning any site) and identified it as promotional activity on my part.

Chacha - you really are very silly! How old are you? You are coming across as terribly childish. Didn't your mummy ever tell you that children should not interupt grown-ups when they speak? Haven't you ever been told that children should be seen and not heard? It seems that you were a rather neglected child ...

Yes Researcher - the dancing fool's dishonesty is irkesome to say the least and, as for his arrogance, it is astounding.

Take a look at literarystop's post, for example - while they are against forum rules - literarystop is, at least, honest. S/he has openly stated his/her intentions for being here and his/her connections to the industry. So, as far as I am concerned, literarystop's honesty makes him/her worth a million chacha's.


pls point out the posts where I recommended any site and i will immediately apologise. And as for criticising other sites, my criticisms are almost exclusively directed at the Ukranians and you. I criticise liars and scammers only and have often defended my competitors against unjust and unfounded accusations of dishonesty.

Dancer, pls chacha your way over to your to your diner as it's almost brunch time.

You missed a lot
1) horrid english
2) completely nonsensical posts
3) constantly backtracking - saying one thing and then denying it ... over and over again
list is too long

I am quaking!


Of course you are


of course - 10-20 minutes a day, not everyday, on the forum ... helluva lot of time!

So, who are you??

Shall we say `rather humorous'?

log onto essaybrunch and see for yourself :) It is good for a laugh though. Especially the first webcopy. The owner - Chacha - claimed that essaybrunch was founded by a group of anthropologists and asked writers and customers to Sing Up. The site also sported a rather frightfully phrased donation request - something like give money to help improve the lives of the siteowners! Oh yes! Let's not forget that essaybrunch promised never to be like the "giants who never pick up your phone."

I wouldn't say the site is "garbage," however - but, wonderfully comical.

Welcome rustyironchains from the Ukraine. Maybe you can answer a question - why is such a high percentage of the scammers in this industry from the Ukraine? It is getting as bad as the Nigerian bank scam letters. Do you not have laws regulating criminal activities - scamming, cheating, etc. do constitute criminal activities in most every country.

Does anyone find it rather curious that rustyironchain from the Ukraine (it rhymes!) signed on today and posted 3 anti-WB messages?

So, are you with A-R or with EW? Both have mastered the art of scamming ...

The Oxbridge Research Group:
Oxbridge Editing
Oxbridge Essays
Oxbridge Law
Oxbridge Primary Research
Oxbridge Personal Statements
Oxbridge Investment Banking (it is a joke - they claim that top executives from Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan will write your personal statement!)

Oxbridge Law Tutors
Oxbridge Training Contracts
Oxbridge Vac Schemes (Get this - top execs from Clifford Chance, will fill in your job application form)
Oxbridge Pupillages

Look - they paint avery pretty pix but think about it:

Do they really have more than 1,500 Oxford and Cambridge Graduates on their freelance staff? Graduates from these universitiesearn a bomb and will certainly not write your papers for anything less than 50-100 GBP.

Do you really believe the top execs from the world's leading investment banks (people who earn close to 6 figures per year) are going to fill in your applications and write your personal statements?

Do yourself a favour and stay away from them.

The brother set up the company 3 years ago - one was 20 at the time and the other 21. Can you really place your future in the hands of kids?

What an image .... I envy your mastery of the language

A very interesting and informative read

Read this post carefully - there is something `off' about the language - it is not just bad, it is`put on' bad. If he is in a Western/international university, he would have to attend the English Lang Lab before taking actual gradable/credit courses ... on second thought, there is something wrong about the post.


How did the university `guess' the site?

Sarif - I have a writer account there - give me your order number and I'll check the status

If my site has ever scammed anyone, please note that the company is absolutely bound by UK law. If you are a writer, please log onto BERR berr.gov.uk/whatwedo/businesslaw/criminal-investigations/complain ts/page46381.html and fill an online complaint form. You should also consider hiring a lawyer and taking us to the small claims court. Basically, if we have scammed you, you should take action. Don't try negotiating with scammers as they will only ever give you the runaround - take a stand for your rights.

Now, if you are a customer, know that you have legal rights when buying a service. If you feel that the service received was not as promised, go to your local Citizen Advice Bureaux. You can find the one nearest to you by logging onto citizensadvice.org.uk/index/getadvice and entering your postcode. Go to them and they will take action under both the Consumer Protection and the Sale of Service acts. As students, you may fear that the consequences of action would be your subsequent exposure - tell CAB this and they will guide you. Do not accept shoddy goods/service and do not allow anyone to scam you - just take action.


Any writer or customer who has ever been threatened by my company or any other should fill in a police report. I had no idea that it was even necessary to spell this out but THREATENING and BLACKMAILING others constitute criminal activities

Their support system isn't good. The paper you receive ultimately depends on the qualifications of the writer you assigned it to. Some are very good and a great many are not ... So, it is the luck of the draw

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just some mistakes but could have bolded the whole passage ...
They should have paid you because they took you on despite evident linguistic problems. They definitely should have paid you as they chose to assign you work despite your linguistic limitations. I do, however, believe that the termination of your account was justifiable.

WB - don't you think him a rather sad and pathetic figure? While I feel like slaughtering him for addressing me as "baby" and "honey," I realise it's nothing but a pathetic attempt to sound `native.' :)

All I know is that when I used to work with them, they were very good. I never experienced a payment problem.


Yes, their English isn't all that but they are terribly gracious and polite. Plus, they are honest in that they never claimed (as far as I know) to be American/British ...

Why don't you try sorting it out with them? Ring them up and discuss your concerns. The Researchwritingcenter I knew, listened to writers. I am not saying that you are wrong but just telling you to give it one more go ... if they owe you money, it is your right to claim it ...

No I won't make any recommendations. And the Oxbridge Group IDIOT was established by two Indian brothers. Do your homework.


you poor chacha dancing fool ... ok ... i'll give you a break so you can attend to the essays you have on the grill


Best thing to do is go through the forum and eliminate the ones which have been exposed as fraudulent. Following from that, start communiating with the remaining ones and focus on their use of English; ask about their writers; their gaurantees; do they have a verifiable address; telephone number?

What on earth are you going on about??? yes it is registered and we did not need to manipulate the law as the legits in the industry adhere to the law. Do you know anything about the law? How about the regulations which we, in this industry, are supposed to abide by???? You really are very very uniformed


Nope - not my oxbridge ... what you'll get is the Oxbridge Research Group. Can't you read? And the Oxbridge Research Group is a blight upon the industry - something like you. They claim to have 1000 editors/researchers/writers working for them, all of whom have graduated from Oxford or Cambridge. Their proof??? None.

If you live by a lake, go jump in it ... no it cearly indicates nothing at all

I can solemnly swear that I have ruined the career of no student ... get real! The only so-called career I am interested in exposing as an absolute non-career is yours.

And by the way - I did pm MGC1985 immediately after he posted (before you showed up) and advised him
1)that his question was against forum rules
2) that he should not trust advise he receives here - especially from forum members offering their services.

And - I did not give him the name of my site at all ... Basically, therefore, I am expecting you to adhere to the same rules I, and others, are sticking to

No my username will not lead you to my website. And I am not associated with oxbridge essays, etc. So, don't try. Want me to show you just how UNassociated I am with the oxbridge group?

Everybody - students and writers - do not use Oxbridge Essays and do not go anywhere near Oxbridge Writers and Oxbridge Graduates. Actually do not go anywhere near any site associated with the OXBRIDGE RESEARCH GROUP! They are quite `iffy' and I am not asociated with them in any way, shape or form!

Don't lie! Read your own post:
"| Apr 23, 09, 06:48AM #127

Apr 23, 09, 10:17AM - Attached on merging:
New Website

Dear All
I am pleased to announce that we are in process of launching a rival of essaybay. Our site will be probably the most transparent essay writing service firm to offer a direct interaction between writers and buyers.

After going through an ordeal of telephonic and email threats, contract suspensions for petty reasons, pay issues, we, a group of writers, have decided to launch our own website where writers and buyers will be face to face with each other. We can guarantee you that no one from admin will ever call you or threat you, you can instantly withdraw your money without fearing that it will clamped by some crooks sitting behind the veiled curtains. Our site will show you full information of writers so that buyers can interact directly with them either on their phone numbers or emails- We are committed to scrap double standards in this industry where most of the companies are running two websites and customer never knows where he or she actually placed the order.

Buyers can set their own price for as little as $1 if they are lucky enough to find a writer who may be willing to work for $1. Buyers can view complete information of the writers, can call them and above all decided exactly when to pay them.

I request all of you to forward your suggestions in order to make this website perfect for both the writers and the buyers."

Care to ask forum members whether or not you own/have a financial interest in that greasy burger joint you call essaybrunch?

At least be honest! Why would any student emtrust a liar with his/her money and academic future?


If that's the case, please do yourself a favour and learn how to write!

Chacha - you really are going overboard here. Please understand
1) you are not allowed to promote your own site here (I, and others on the forum, do not promote our sites)
2) you have named your website after A DINER essaybrunch! Why in the hell would mgc1985 want to purchase a worthless, indigestible, fried essay from you. For God's sake ... you asked customers and writers to SING UP not signup!

3) your english is horrifyingly bad and your webcopy (your storefront) contained countless grammatical and spelling mistakes.

If you want to participate in discussions - please do and you will be welcome but, do not use this place to advertise your greasy business!

Considering your numerous posts about how awful essaybay is and what scammers they are ... why are you recommending them???? You really are a piece of work and have no credibility whatsoever. One minute you are slamming a site and the next you are recommending it. The best thing I can call you is shameless! Here are some of your comments about essaybay:

"Mar 30, 09, 09:42PM #229: They are most inefficient ( or may be look so).. You will get no email replies from them, whenever you call them and anyone picks up, you will always hear that i am not the concerned person. concerned persons are busy... email them and they will respond to you.. and they never do..

I have been working with EW and other sites and they are at least excellent in replying back in solving your issues but ESSAY BAY does not seems to interested.

My assessment is that they are probably biggest fraud on the net."

"| Mar 31, 09, 09:26AM #231: I have requested my fund withdrawal a week ago but nothing has been sent to me yet. They even do not reply. seems to be biggest frauds... there business model though is a copy of ebay but they probably lack the integrity.. Is any one in UK can make a complain to authorities specially Securities and Exchange Commission to have a check on their parent company? I can provide technical assistance in this regard."

"| May 27, 09, 09:02AM #250: Essaybay has taken my $100 too for a brief which is never being paid to me. they are biggest lies so far.... truly pathetic service as they never reply....."

"May 27, 09, 12:04PM #253: Essaybay will soon out of competition because of its serious stubbornness in not replying to any messages either from customers or their writers. They are not going to survive for too long even if they pay on time because there are lot of other qualitative issues which they need to address if they want to stay in the game... My serious to them would be to be serious if you are in the trade."


Do you even imgine that you are on par with essay bay? Maybe in a million years! At present, the placement of essaybrunch in a single sentence with essaybay is absolutely scandalous. Your arrogance is astounding!

EW, WB does seem to be your pet project

Most definitely ... however, Asif's English betrays him/her as a below average speaker. He cannot be a lecturer ... a student, maybe


Could be except that he gives the impression that he was with AK itself, not essaybay.

But - in all cases, his email is pathetic ... threatening writers and customers???!!! Who is supposed to side with him???? And, his threats don't even hold water

Look at our brilliant Asif4444's posts :)

Can someone please explain why this thread is up to 230+ posts? What's the point of it? Essaywriters are trash and believe themselves above the law ... why would anyone even begin to dispute that? If they weren't feeling the heat he would not have engaged in the change of ownership theatrics ...

EW - you slammed the company several times, so what's the point of this? As a writer for Yuri, you should know (better than anybody else) that you are hardly receiving fair pay for your work. He barely gives his writers a third of what he makes per order (25% would be more accurate) - is that honest or proper? The orders EW has on the board at this moment range from a minimum of $2.64 to a maximum of $9.26. The overall average is $4.8 per page!

That is true because were sites to condone the submission of the model essays they provide for guidance purposes, they would be violating the law. There really is no two ways about it.

It is a typo - definitely - but WB, it still hurts :(

Another thing WB - Chacha is at it again! He is still desperately trying to market his site, direct people his way while claiming he has nothing to do with essaybrunch!

If you had indeed threatened to do so, you are just plain silly. The only relevant `authority' here is HM Revenues and Custom - you can only report the writers (the British ones) if you can prove that they are evading taxes. Possibly, if you have absolute proof that a particular writer stole copyrighted material (plagiarised) and passed it onto the customer as his/her own work, you can report that. In all cases, why are you making such a failed threat against WRITERS?


Is one to assume that you threatened to expose customers? That is terribly unethical and, unfortunately, it is illegal given the terms of the manager's employment contracts.

I certainly don't like to agree with Jennifer and I (personally) can pick out several objectionable points in her email ... as far as you are concerned, however, it appears that she has a case ...



Cecilia is a lecturer at Greenwich University. She teaches English as a second language, among other things. One would assume, therefore, that her grasp of the language would be near-perfect (at least). Asif's 3 posts clearly establish him/her as a very average (or below average) ESL speaker/writer - the foreign nuances are very clearly present. I do not, therefore, believe that he and Cecilia are one and the same.

That brings me to another question - if he really was on your books Jennifer, does not that dispute the claim that Academic Knowledge carefully handpicks its writers? I thought you only hired native speakers????

Yes - I concede :( But I am serious - Aussue grammar is horrid!
They did massacre Brititain :)

No was not an offshore writer. ET - was offshore as they are in the States. They did ask me to take out a tax identification number, though, and I did.

Despite your linguistic limitations, Academia should have paid you. They should have paid because they took you on despite the fact that you should not be writing in English and then compounded their crime by assigning you work.

When I was working as a writer with Academia, I took up the revision for 2 of your works ... horrendous doesn't begin to describe the experience. I found it easier to just redo it from scratch.

Now - before you decide to dispute this, maybe I should tell you that I have pdf screen shots of every single order board I ever worked on, including the two I picked up from you. They contain your messages to the clients and their replies - everything.

Having said that, I still believe that you should have been paid as Academia did assign you work despite your multiple handicaps.

I am sorry for coming across as harsh but I really cannot wrap my mind around the fact that just about anyone is seeking employment as an ENGLISH-LANGUAGE academic writer. It is precisely because of this that many EXCELLENT ESL writers are getting a bad rap.

Seriously ... who is Stu4? His posts read like the sick ramblings of a fraudster.

Stu4 - so if I hire 2 PhD writers and 1000 high school students, it'll be ok for me to claim


Are you, in any way, serious?

Do you have any idea how absolutely immoral you sound?

Stu4 - pls do not mention the law as what you are proposing is illegal in the UK. Those of us who are really British and have actually registered our companies in the UK, are not allowed to mislead customers or publish false claims. We would be taken to the cleaners if we do. Given the legal consequences of following your advice, we need to be off our rockers to even consider it for a sec.

Another thing - while you appear to assume that you know anything at all about the English language, please allow me to dispute that. When you claim that "Our writers possess PHD degrees..." it really means exactly that! You have phrased it in such a way that it can only mean that all your writers have post-graduate degrees. Misleading customers is not "perfectly legal," whatever you may have deluded yourself into believing ...

About virtual offices ... I assume that you are referring to those paid addresses which incorporation agents offer? Well ... in the UK, taking out a paid address does not allow you to open a company business account, etc etc ... we really do have to have real physical addresses, even if it is the owner's home address.

I really do think that the UK needs to change its incorporation laws because people like you are making a mockery of the system.


Pheelyks - give Stu4 a break! Doesn't he, at least, get some points for tryingto write in English?!

Sorry, missed that part. Okay - after I got accepted UKessays asked me to send the following (which I did):

"1) Contract A or B completed
2) Two or more past pieces of academic or written work so we can assess your writing standard.
3) Proof of your academic qualifications such as a scanned copy of Degree Certificate or Transcript.
4) A copy of a piece of personal photo identification for example a scanned copy of Passport, Drivers Licence etc.
5) A copy of a document with your current address displayed, i.e. a utility bill or bank statement from within the last 3 months." (The email they sent me)

They did not ask for anything else

Same thing with Devereaux and Deloitte ... (which I then discovered was part of UkEssays's group of sites).

As for accredited writers, the Director asked for my ID, proof of address and degrees. She did not request a sample of my work but, instead, assigned me a real piece of writing (a lit review chapter) to complete in 7 days. The understanding was that if done well, I get paid for it and be accepted and if it was shoddy, I do not get paid and my application gets rejected. After I sent the writing in, she called me up, said I was accepted and paid me right after. She could have taken the chapter and run (which is a common practice among scammers) but she didn't ... that is what I call honesty

Yes I am ... born, bred and educated in the UK (apart from 4 years in Japan). Apart from that, however, I have another nationality as well and curently live between London and Cairo (and when I took out the sites I was in Cairo and while I could have used a UK card and my address there, I did not think it important to do so and listed my Cairo one. I did not take out a private registration because I have nothing to hide).

I hate saying this ... I did not come across a single fully legitimate Brit site :( As for the Aussie ones (authentically Australian) ... quite pathetic. UNFORTUNATELY (and it is really killing me to say this), the handful of authentic sites I came across and worked with were American. Several of them mention nothing about writer nationality. They know it's not important. Now - if you are referring to ET, at least it does not demand that writers hide behind false personas, Americanise their names, etc etc ... Look - as far as I am concerned, ET is competition and I definitely do not support it. I will not, however, deny that it is a legitimate company and has stringent hiring standards.


For ET, UKessays and Accredited Writers, I was asked to provide my academic degrees, writing sample and proof of nationality - I sent in proof of both my nationalities :) When it came to EW, Academia-Research, Researchwritingcenter and premium writers (etc), I was asked for nothing! My very first order via Academia-Research was a dissertation (graduate-level accounting) - they assigned it to me even though they had absolutely no proof of my academic qualifications. What does that tell you about the Ukranians?

Yes - you are right about my having to remove the British and American writers only from the site and when it goes live you will find that we will not guarantee nationality but will guarantee excellent English, indistinguishable from that of an educated (well-spoken) native speaker. The one thing we will not do is hire Aussie writers :) Seriously ... Aussie grammar is really a bit "off" ...

As I mentioned Researchwritingcenter up there I want to make one thing clear - throughout my association with them, they never once denied (at least to me) that they were Eastern European and hired foreign-born writers. They proved very honest in their dealings and tend to treat writers well. It is one of the very few non-American companies which checks writers' work before sending it off to the client. Whether or not they are qualified to `check' the work is something else altogether :)

WB - be nice! Give Carly a chance to tell us all about how Academic Answers `outs' its customers just to make news. I really want to hear her justification for her employer's violation of his own confidentiality guarantee:

"uk essays/guarantees.php]

Fully confidential service

All orders are treated with strictest confidence - we will never give your name or details to anyone. In addition, our writers work under confidentiality agreements: they are not given your details, and will not disclose the details of your order to anyone."

Shouldn't there be a clause stating that this guarantee will be nullified at the first chance of some free publicity? C'mon Carly! Didn't the owner graduate law school? So where's that fine-print clause?

Carly ... the floor is now yours ...


I am not too surprised over your not getting paid ... I am, however, terribly shocked to know that you were hired as a writer. I really do not think you should be writing in English ...