what's wrong with nerds?

yes, you did

first, what kind of quality deterioration you are talking about?

second, have you paid the writer?

and i'm also curious what is the "family sickness"?

Universitywork

why are you making this public?

that's the fairest response they could provide


they quite exist physically

Newbies are rarely welcome on professional boards, unless they are potential clients.

if you don't believe me, try going to a resource frequented by linux fans and ask a noob question.
though it is quite possible that someone will write custom drivers for you and walks you through the process of installation, it is highly likely that they call you a lamer and suggest that you kill yourself

don't think this gonna work as you plan it to and i also question your research/analytical skills.

if the company doesn't pay you, post the unpaid papers on the Internet and forget about it. if customers stumble upon the works they paid for and make a chargeback, so be it, if not - you wasted your time.

what are you doing there? working for free and hoping for revenge?

not quite so. they hire everyone, but the prices offered discourage anyone, who can barely write or code from taking any job from them.

what an insane developer would spend two weeks designing and coding iphone app for 20 bucks?

was it any good?

in some countries it is called "misrepresentation"

if you place an order online with the website, which advertises brazillian coffee, you expect to receive brazillian coffee

i can imagine a school teacher saying "i can't provide my hourly rate as there are always new kids to teach"

hourly rates work perfectly, in all industries, no matter if they are stipulated in a contract or you keep them in mind when deciding whether to take a project/order/paper/work/whatever


and who is supposed to calculate this formula? you don't bother to calculate your own hourly rate, but expect someone else to take care of yourself

no, thanks, i don't need help in pirating the software, especially when there's a trial version provided


i've checked the jaws website - it has a spellchecker


if you can type normally, why do use the software for visually impaired people?

editor75

you are not going to ever quit this topic, are you?

which hourly rate would make you happy?

and plz include into this figure the compensation for sick leave days, healthcare expenses, retirement planning, etc

spend a few minutes on a brief chat with support service - you'll learn more than you can imagine. former customers of some companies posted the chat logs here, search for them if you are curious. they are impressive

the voice-recognition software doesn't have a spellchecker?
what is it? an add-on for browser? plz post the link here i'd like to see it

that's so very interesting and how much did they refund you?

and what do you think about their marketing strategies? are they effective?

i think it's not worth of "persuing"

Zandermus
why do you ask whether they are legitimate or not if they are not getting back to you? this question would be more rational if they did, as at this point you have nothing to lose and have the time to concentrate your efforts elsewhere

it looks like this is a step worth of trying when scammed

if a client hires you to build a website and pays you on hourly basis, puts their copyright when it's done and makes money using it, is it fair or not?


if you get drunk in a bar, will you be complaining for being robbed?

i don't see any connection between these 2 statements

and what would be the point for having two websites for the same system?
the shortage of writers has not been observed so far

editor75
I think you're just trolling. You start the discussion, keep maintaining it by pretending not to understand elementary things, after people have written several pages, you write the same stuff you wrote at the very beginning and it starts all over again

well, i think it's funny


yep, i can change the world by posting on the board, why didn't i know this before?

quality?
you pay in kind to greedy employers and intentionally submit the works of poor quality? and once the cpp is increased the quality will go up at an exponential rate

loyalty? i'm against any loyalty in freelance


i hate to tell you, but this happens in all industries

those secretaries, hr officers, customer care reps, accountants, different supervisors are paid for producing absolutely nothing.

the managers often have huge salaries while hardly producing even 1% of the total output

that's the cruel world we live in

editor75
well, if you can offer nothing in return it looks like begging.


in other words
if someone tells you:
"it's about making this world better, donate everything you have on saving wild animals and live in a hut"

what will you say? i'm sure it will be "no, thank you"

same thing

editor75
it looks like you keep forgetting what was written a couple of pages ago.

let me summarize a few points for you:

1) by becoming a freelancer you become responsible for your working schedule and your earnings;

2) a freelancer would part the ways with the client if underpaid and wouldn't start begging "plz pay me moar, i've sacrificed so much";

3) freelancer is in the constant search of better terms and new clients - that's the way to be doing better.

freelancer - you
client - writing company

and this can be done easily - don't take up any project, unless you think that the price is reasonable

Yes some employers will expect you to downgrade your expectations because of the market being dumped by people willing to work for $3 per hour or less and be grateful for this. With no quality standards set, this works perfectly well for these companies.

If you wish to be doing better - avoid them.


With the abundance of cheap work force and absence of commitments to the clients, they are not interested in your demands.

what was the paypal's comment on chargeback? did they verify anything before canceling the transaction?

Your ideas are utopian. If you want to be treated like an employee - become an employee.
If you are a freelancer, expect to be treated like a freelancer.

The only reasonable idea I spotted was better cpp. Everyone likes getting paid more, but who forces you to work for a low cpp?

Not quite so - chargeback can only be initiated after submitting some sort of fraud claim. After an investigation the transaction is rolled back. But there's a certain period of time, within which you can apply for a chargeback. And most likely this period of time is over for scorcher47

but it's still worth of trying

and you can also contact their payment processor

editor75
Actually, I don't agree with you on 2 points, only on one of them.
I don't think that the industry is based on deception and lies. There's a lot of deception in the industry, but this fact doesn't provide an excuse for deceiving nor the clients neither the writers.

As to the second point, yes i think it's global with the largest part of the market occupied by US students. Apparently, those looking for a quick buck target their marketing efforts at the most lucrative segment.

as you wish: I disagree with editor75 on a number of points


If you assume so, I don't need to worry lol

btw, 75 is a date of birth? your point of view is so radical, a high school student would have, but not people well in their thirties.

the industry is not based on deception and lies, there are certain companies in this industry, the major activities of which are deception and lies.


it makes no sense to you as your knowledge of freelancing and outsourcing is limited to writing papers for students
If you'd have worked in a project employing several teams from different countries, you wouldn't think so

scorcher47
It looks like you are having a bad luck.
I see they have quite a few options to get a hold of them: facebook page, twitter and forum.

How do you get in touch with the writer? direct email?

If you wish to email them i think you can try the following: compose the message and try to send it to support@domainname.com or info@domainname.com

and get in touch with your bank to discuss possible options.

ophelie
glad that you got your money back
but i think you may consider spending some time on abuse complaint to their hoster

1. not quite so - it is not supposed to be based on deception as students shouldn't hand in the papers as they are provided.

2. actually, other areas of freelancing: design, coding, markup, administration don't have such a problem, no one misrepresents their location, as no one needs to. so if you consider hiring someone "not in the hood" you should know that you'll be having communication problems due to different languages, mentalities, and time zones.

i assume that decades ago academic writing was similar to other freelance activities and didn't have so many pitfalls, but one day someone was smart enough to come up with a great business plan: hire esl writers and tell the customers they are retired American/British professors, cheat the writers and ignore the customers.

as to global vs. American - I believe it's global as there are many customers from Australia, UK, Arabian countries (Kuweit, UAE, Saudi Arabia), but students of US universities make more than a half

p.s. these are my personal assumptions based on personal experience

What kind of ringtone? All the support systems are employing voip, so there may be no ringtone at all and if there is any, it should not be much different whether you call a guy next door or some place on the opposite side of the planet, it's not a pstn.

ophelie, have you emailed their manager notifying about the chargeback procedure?

what is your bank saying?

scorcher47
of course, they are not only top-rated, but also self-rated, sorry for dumb joke.

you say the writer is reluctant to reply, but what about the support service? do they reply?

i suggest you call them and ask for the manager

WRT, I don't think if this online incorporation is forbidden, it will make people shut their businesses down.
Relying on the figures provided by Pheelyks, we can assume that this type of activity is profitable enough to find a US/UK citizens, who'll be happy to be "the only owner" on a monthly or one-time charge basis.

I'm pretty sure there will always be people offering such "registration" services.