The good thing with the system is that you can both bail out without difficulty if things like the situations that you mentioned happen. Also, when clients don't explain instructions well enough as to make the writer underbid considerably, the writer can ask for additional payment (which I have done several times).


You mean some orders, don't you? If you're presenting an unbiased observation then I'm sure that you also saw a lot of orders which were very specifically defined.


I agree. There are some unreasonable clients and some clueless writers on the site. However, having to sort bad clients from good ones on the part of writers and having to sort bad writers from good ones on the part of clients is precisely the most wonderful thing about the site. It gives people freedom to interact directly in an open marketplace. Writers are free to prove themselves to clients.


While I don't know anything about the site's owners, I do know that there are a slew of unverified writers on the site whose credentials are probably untrue. However, regardless of what you say your credentials are, the bottom line will always be how good your feedback is, and even if we take the feedback away, there's how well you interact with clients and convince them that you can write their orders well. When I was starting out, I used to even give free outlines just to prove that I can get the job done perfectly.

My only point is that WB claims that Academic Answers' products are overpriced where in fact, EB's rates are some of the lowest available in the industry. That's all.

and lose a perfectly good hobby? nah... :P

Where's the lie in that? Essaybay probably charges some of the most reasonable rates in the industry.


Riiiightttt....

and what's wrong with that? ^_^

You can't call Academic Answers a scam so instead you call them overpriced? >.< You're really some piece of work.

Viva Peron!

Great! ^_^

Hey, I started that nickname. :p

And you never copy-paste what you write? Not even a little? ^_^

Wait.. did you receive any payment at all from them? Are you saying that you kept working for them for two years without getting paid? I considered working for them as well but their system was too weird.

Hmm.. actually I think this might be a slip-of-the-tongue (or keyboard as the case may be). Perhaps WB is the longest-standing member, she just went by a different name then. :D

I'm suggesting that nobody has the facts and figures to say one way or the other. Look at it this way, the only disgruntled EW writers that we ever see here are the ones who did plagiarize or write poorly or do anything else that could give EW the excuse to penalize their earnings. That shows that EW is quick to lose writers that are crappy, but how about writers that are good? Sure I'm the only one who openly admits writing for EW and not regretting it, but does that necessarily mean that I'm the only one who feels this way?

So we're the black market, fine. We're the only service that will not say it's wrong for you to hand papers we generate as yours coz heck, you bought them. We'll live with that.


'Course not, in fact I admit that EW's admin would take advantage of any opportunity to penalize its writers. All I'm saying is that if a company is off-shore or hires off-shore writers and lies to its clients regarding these matters, it DOES NOT automatically make that company inferior to others.

Oh but those can just equate to "they screwed up with my paper" and as pointed out by someone else, any client can feel "ripped off" if they don't get what they want out of a service. You immediately attack those posters saying that they are such clients.


Ok so for the record, ET being "legitimate" DOES NOT IMPLY THAT IT HAS AN EXCEPTIONALLY HIGH LEVEL OF COMPETENCE. Let's just make that CRYSTAL CLEAR. ^_^ They have good and bad writers as well.

I never disagreed that ET was legitimate. You can keep your legitimacy as it doesn't mean **** to me or my clients. ^_^


Ha! Once more you are trying to insinuate without proof that when a company lies about its location and the nationality of its writers, it is automatically a company that delivers shoddy output. We lie about our origins, big deal. The students we cater to lie to their universities about the authorship of their homework. Do we care? ^_^ Only sites like ET DON'T ALLOW THEIR CLIENTS TO CHEAT. :p

*Done with the disso ^_^*

So when someone says that a site is crappy when your evidences point out that it's legit, that person is automatically competition posing as a client? A glaring logical flaw is clearly evident from the way you equate legitimacy to competence. Ir's like you're saying that the writers of all legitimate companies are brilliant and incapable of botching up assignments. That's an association that you NEVER EVER proved. ^_^


Oh wait, since I view you as a shameless ET supporter who always tries to parry away complaints of incompetence against the company by slapping evidences on legitimacy (not competence), then I guess all my insults against you are quite justified as well. :p

I'd really LOVE to dive in all this myself, but I got a dissertation to complete from scratch in less than 12 hours so...

So what types of positive publicity does this site not prevent? Oh, just the ones that you imply based on your evidences? :p

Funny, there have been times this year that this was exactly how I felt. XD

I think that principle is applicable to any type of service.

Hahaha.. the writer I was talking about seems to be still at it. >.<

Hi Sybil. ^_^

It's just an assumption mind you, and I don't really have the motivation to verify it since I'm currently swamped with work.


Me? Why, I'm good but I can't say I'm the best. :D

I think I've just uncovered a scam by one of essaybay's new writers. Recently, this writer climbed to a high rank. However, it seems that the positive feedback that he's earned all come from clients that he himself generated. This is purely speculation at this point though... given the atrocious grammar of his introductory message, I'm sure he'll get bumped down soon enough.

On other matters, anyone care to talk about the best writer they've found on the site so far? ^___^

Hey.. can't a guy enjoy some r&r around here when he's done writing homework for American Masters and PhD candidates? :p

This is such a cool thread... it reminds me of a book.. Sybil. ^_^

Why do you always talk like all the stuff that we're discussing on this message board is actually affecting anybody? I mean, I've been here for almost two years and in that span of time, the rise and fall of orders have always fallen in line with the academic seasons. Orders peak to as much as 400 at the height of the season and then drop to less than 20 during academic breaks and vacations. That's why you're so much fun to poke around with, you're just too.. involved. :p On top of it all, I just can't stop laughing at the irony of what you stand for...

I am WritersBeware, champion of the innocent American consumer who just wants to buy sample homework from legitimate companies that hire only American writers and that do not allow students to cheat by submitting purchased papers as their own. I am the enemy of fraudulent sites that hire ESL writers and can afford to lower prices much more competitively than legitimate American companies. I am a friend to ESL writers asking for advice on where they should work as writers, I tell them to stop writing for the frauds that hire them while declaring that they just are not qualified to write for American consumers.

The contradictions and pointlessness are just too obvious to elaborate.

My my... and posting this makes you feel real good about yourself, I'm sure. ^_^

Riiight.... so you call ET a legit company and imply that it's incapable of hiring bad writers and then you say that's not promotion because it's the truth? What load of bull is that? Then again, can we expect anything other than dung to come out of that filth you call a mouth? Even FW here agrees that there are some ET writers who are much better than others, so I'm betting there are some bad ones who most likely get the boot after getting a few unsatisfied clients.

Hey, NO PROMOTIONS ALLOWED. Haven't you read the rules?

Oh wait... ah, yes.. they don't apply to those with above average butt-size and below average intelligence quotient, criteria that only you seem to fit around here. :D

Hey Lav, if you believe Falcon's story that "he got a poor writer who didn't know the topic" does that mean that you acknowledge that ET also has some bad writers?

What can I say, it's an interesting hobby. :D

WritersBeware= A big fat joke. ^_^

Like I said, it's not that I hate them or anything, I've just found greener pastures. ^_^

You would. However, consider this. I work about 5 hours a day on this sideline and complete around 10 pages on the average within that time. That's $130/day which is hmm... thrice the daily salary of our country's president. ^_^ Needless to say, my $13/page is allowing me to live it reasonably large in the third world. :p

Oh and btw, I wasn't bragging. I was advertising. :D


No it hasn't. People, STOP WRITING FOR ESSAYWRITERS.NET! :D


Sigh... it's amnesia folks. Too much brain trauma has made WB here forget all our good bu++-kicking memories together. ^__^ I guess I kicked her bu++ too many times and since she was born with her brain stuffed in her fat behind well... you get the picture. XD

And I say that kicking ass is fine so long as the ass in question deserves the kicking (and WB sure deserves a lot of hard discipline which I've been more than happy to dish out time and time again). ^_^ Besides, have you seen fatso here pass her remarks at ESL writers and everyone else who disagrees with her cholesterol-pumped, man-like face? If you really do appreciate my defense of ESL writers then you should be laughing with me on this one. :D


I don't hate her, she's my comic relief. :) Making essays, dissertations, quantitative research papers, PowerPoint presentations, resumes and cover letters is hard work so I drop by here every once in a while to use my $13/page talents for leisure rather than business for a change. ^__^



ROFLMAO!


Hi Lav, nope I'm sticking with this one. ^_^ Season heating up for you already?

There's the rub. >.<

As soon as the client releases the payment from escrow, writers can transfer payments to their own accounts instantaneously (but I think there's a 30-day holding period for new accounts).


I see. If this happened before you uploaded the paper, then you should have waited for the money to be placed back to your escrow account before you sent it. If it happened after you submitted the work then I agree that essay bay should resolve the matter.

Errr... you're not supposed to work on an order until AFTER the money has been deposited in an escrow account under your name. >.< Even if the client doesn't release the money then (which only happens when the client's a pr*ck), it will be released by admin after some time. If you did the work and uploaded the paper WITHOUT your client ever making an escrow payment (which you should have first received in your list of pending payments on your writer's page) then I guess you just gave your client a free paper. XD

However, I do agree that their emailing system sucks. I've been trying to sort out an issue for weeks now but am still getting no reply from any of their representatives. Jennifer, if you can read this, I would really appreciate some long overdue assistance. XD

I did, and now I don't. I don't have much ill-feelings against them though (I mean, I was paid nearly every cent I was owed) but it's time to move on to greener pastures. ^_^

Say dearbats, don't you think that WB should stop posting her pic here so often? I mean look at her, she looks like a big, fat man-pig for heaven's sake.

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Essaywriters.net SUCKS!

Yep, that's right folks. DON'T WRITE FOR ESSAYWRITERS.NET! IT SUCKS! WB was RIGHT ALL ALONG! Regardless of how much of a cruddy piece of **** we all think she is and even though she does look like a man in this picture below of herself that she keeps posting, it can't be denied that essaywriters.net will screw you over and over again. So keep away, keep FAR FAR away. ^___^

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I think it's fixed now. ^_^

Is the site down?

What denial? o.O What am I denying? >.<

Sigh.. WritersBeware = Oh, I got evidence! Oh, it is worthless! Oh, I've been here for years but oh, I got nothing. >.< (best when sung) ^_^