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WRT   
Oct 04, 2009
Essay Services / Disertation Creation .com [34]

Dissertation Creation is one of AA's websites (you know, UKessays, etc). Any can call them overpriced, blast their plagiarism detection tool, criticise their contractual terms, and so on, but the one thing they cannot be called is fraudulent.
WRT   
Oct 04, 2009

The papers currently available at ManyEssays.com appear to be lifted from existing, free essay sites.

Keep your eyes open as a few, soon-to-be-launched, sites have done that and then gone one step further by lifting Academon's FAQs and masterpapers' webcopy.
WRT   
Oct 04, 2009

AR and EW deserve a round of applause. Their contributions to the severe bastardisation of the English language should be acknowledged. Illiterates have become paid writers.
WRT   
Oct 03, 2009

I was not voting and tried to be objective. The above interpretation of my post has left me tongue-tied!

Over the past couple of years, none has contributed more than Writersbeware. I respect her for her work and believe that she has long earned the respect of all. Yes, she is abrasive sometimes but any here would be much more than that were they attacked 24/7 for doing little other than exposing the creeps out there.

I cannot understand this whole thing about taking WB on and think it very sad that many here do not realise that she is fighting their fight. I clashed with her 18 months (or so) ago. I was defending a company which she was attacking. The company was AR and, guess what? She was 100% right and I was nothing but a stupid idiot.

I'm not going to comment on this again. As I said, I'm not going to get involved.
WRT   
Oct 03, 2009

I post FACTS,

Facts which rock the boat; facts which have exposed the lies perpetuated by many in this industry. More to the point, facts which have earned her nothing but enemies.

I understand why company owners and reps (posing as customers and writers) would object to WritersBeware's posts and launch into hysterical, semi-coherent personal insults. What about the genuine writers and customers here? Do you, in all honesty, not see that her posts are in your best interest?
WRT   
Oct 03, 2009

Plus, I suppose WRT's vote counts better, huh?

Since I am being dragged into the middle of this, allow me to explain my position.
Do I believe that you are a `criminal'? No, I do not.
Do I believe that you support essaywriters all the way? Based on your comments, I do not.
Do I believe that WB has something to say and that you are forever trying to corrupt her threads? Yes, I do.
Do I believe that WB's posts are worthwhile? Yes, I do.
Do I believe that her threads contribute more to all of us than do yours? Yes, I do.
Do I believe that your attitude is purile? Yes, I do.

I am not making hasty judgements. I have been regularly reading through the form over the past two years.

I won't be dragged into the middle of this again.
WRT   
Oct 03, 2009

Exact Term Papers were then unable to find another legal representative, which speaks volumes about the legitimacy of their case!

Exactly! And in litigation-mad USA, of all places. Richard Lee Brock (the guy who sued himself for getting drunk and committing a string of crimes as a result) found a lawyer but they couldn't. So they ran to Pakistan :)
WRT   
Oct 03, 2009

Where did I insinuate that it was genuine? Do you know what that word means?

Yes I do. Anyway, I believe I owe you an apology and admit that I could have misread your intentions.

Didn't SR, technically, win on default?

Why? Because Exact Papers withdrew when the tide turned against it. Exact Term Papers initiated the lawsuit and then ran away.
When you read the document, you will find that the judge clarified (in very precise terms) why she was ruling against the site. The company violated a host of federal laws (and international trade laws).

Or maybe I should look for someone to do all the writing for me... any recommendations?

You are going to get PM'ed to death now :)
WRT   
Oct 03, 2009

Please allow me to clutch at a few random straws here:
1) the clients who thought they were getting a writer who actually spoke English
2) the clients who were presented with F-level work
I believe that they care and give a damn.
WRT   
Oct 03, 2009

it's SWREG, right?

They use two processors. SWreg and Authorize.net.
AR uses SWreg only as their Paypal was shut down about 2 years ago and their e-bank account a few months ago (current paypal payments are processed through SWreg; e-cheques are no longer a payment option). AR writers may notice (from time to time) that payments are not processed on time. This is because SWreg (a very reputable company) is forever limiting AR's account due to customer complaints. They are now trying to bypass Swreg by slowly shifting to Alertpay and e-gold.
WRT   
Oct 03, 2009

I really am beginning to suspect the nature of your so-called interest.

1. You dredged up an old case and posted misinformation
2. We directed you to the court ruling, to a legal document
3. You came back with questions regarding the Pakistani case, insinuating that the case is genuine and that Student Research lost.
The one thing I do believe is that you know nothing of the law. If (that is a very very big if) the Pakistani courts ruled against SR, it was by default.

The fact is that Exact Term Papers:
1) Lied about its nationality
2) Lied about the nationality of its writers
3) Defrauded customers
4) Defrauded writers
5) Violated every copyright law (both national and international) imaginable
6) Libeled SR
7) Violated every fair trade agreement around
Then had the gall to take SR to court. They lost, pure and simple. They lost; they were wiped out and the industry is all the cleaner for that.

Mod, please delete this thread before it leads to even more misinformation!

Yes, unless rumour-mongering is now the forum's goal.
WRT   
Oct 02, 2009

Student Research is one of the industry's founders and a highly reputable company. As it was bringing in really big bucks, many assumed that they could do the same. Whether or not they had any industry-knowledge or knew anything of the educational system in the markets they were targeting was (as far as they were concerned), besides the point. Exact Term Papers was one of these companies and, in total, it built what it considered an empire of 885 sites. The service they provided, however, was of the lowest quality possible. Naturally, students and writers complained and some did so through essay organization (functioned similar to this forum). Exact Term Paper retaliated against Student Research, arguing that it was behind these attacks. Student Research counter-sued Exact Term Papers. Please recall that Exact Term Paper initiated the lawsuit and did so in New Jersey. The end result was:

1) Exact Term Paper's own lawyers withdrew from the case, stating that had the plaintiff been honest with them from the start, they would have advised against the (then) current course of action

2) The court found in favor of the defendants (pls note that Student Research was the defendant here, not Exact Term Paper) and, among many other things, awarded Student Research ownership of Exact Term Papers' domains.

3) Exact Term Papers could not take the heat, scurried out of NJ and, to save face, sued Student Research in the Pakistani courts.

The facts of the Pakistani case were never documented. Exact Term Paper says that it was awarded millions upon millions but where are the court documents? The New Jersey case is documented, the Pakistani one is not.

The facts are very very clear and may be accessed by anyone. Any who are interested in the facts may access the New Jersey court document which WB hyperlinked. The one and only truth is in that document.
WRT   
Oct 02, 2009

When they invited me to vdwriters.com, was terribly insulted :)

Alexei (Alex Wesson) owns the following sites:
VDwriters
Academia-Research
Masterpapers
ma-dissertations
Essaycapital
customessays.co.uk,
coursework-writing.co.uk
dissertation-service.co.uk
Superiorcontent
valwriting
samedayessay
grandresume

Among many others.
WRT   
Oct 01, 2009

I would like to take credit but WB posted it long before me. I really could not understand why, after her post, the argument over geo location was still going on. So, I posted the screenshot. I honestly doubt WB missed out on that; don't believe it at all, actually.

And, what is the purpose of this particular argument? The original argument was about the illegality of falsely claiming an American corporate base. The court ruling settled that argument, full-stop.
WRT   
Oct 01, 2009
Writing Careers / EssayWriters: Sweatshop Labour [17]

meant per hour, right?

Yes

This is true only if writers actually take the $3.6 per page orders.

You, rightly, do not pick up these orders but, the majority do. Are their average rates, in any way at all, defensible or justifiable?
WRT   
Oct 01, 2009

why isn't Cheated25 on your list

Wild guess. Maybe because the thread is titled "List of Qualified writers ..." :) Real problem is not that Cheated was not paid but was given orders totaling $2300! Yes, EW's writers are assets and they certainly value their customers :)

EW customers, you are safe with essaywriters. They are terribly picky about their writers and have very strict recruitment policies in place. Only the very very best for their customers:

Never advice anyone to write for this bustards!!!

WRT   
Oct 01, 2009
Writing Careers / EssayWriters: Sweatshop Labour [17]

Federal minimum wage is $7.25;

Sorry. I got it from the New York Times (Week in Review, 20 April, 2008). I should have been more thorough. For some reason, I just assumed that you people had a higher minimum wage rate than the UK.
WRT   
Oct 01, 2009
Writing Careers / EssayWriters: Sweatshop Labour [17]

EW is inviting what it calls their "most treasured assets," its writers, to triple their earnings. As EW writes on its Available Orders' page, "Season is here! Triple your earnings today!" After reviewing the per page compensation rates on their Available Orders' page, I really don't see how that can be. With a handful of exceptions, most orders are going for $3.6 to $4.2. How is this a trebling of earnings?

Let's me try to calculate EW writers' hourly rates. Suppose any is assigned a 3 page order at 3.6 per page = $10.8. Shall we say that the writer would need about 20 minutes to collect 2-3 sources, 15 minutes to read through and annotate them, and about 20 minutes per page? Total time spent on the order would be about 90 minutes? So, on average, an EW writer makes about $7.2 per page. Minimum wage rates for unskilled blue-collar workers in the US is about $8 per hour (corrected, courtesy of Pheelyks) and in the UK it is about £6 - mind you, we are talking of unskilled, manual labourers.

EW writers are earning less than would an uneducated and unskilled, manual labourer in either the UK or the US.

EW pays writers less than 20-25% (in the absence of fines, etc) of what clients pay per page.
What is compelling EW writers to tolerate sweatshop labour wages? Yuri is reaping big bucks and is an extremely wealthy buffoonish baboon because you, as his writers, are putting up with it. Why???
WRT   
Oct 01, 2009

i tried following up on the payment but claimed money compensated for bad quality work which they dont have proof of,

When companies hire writers, despite their evident limitations, and compound their error by repeatedly assigning them work, they have no right to complain. They should never utter the Q(uality) word. These writers did their work to the best of their abilities and deserve to get paid.

RWC has definitely cheated you.

May I ask how much they were paying per page? Minimum and maximum?
WRT   
Oct 01, 2009

blatant prejudice against "Pakistanis, Filipinos, Indians, and Nigerians."

Racial/Ethnic prejudice (and the discriminatory acts which arise from it) is not only illegal in the UK and US but there are internationally enforceable laws against this precise practice all across the world.

The only thing that matters is securing a search engine ban

This is akin to capital punishment; the firing squad kind.

Heck, SNR even made side deals with Google's lead attorney

How about *****'s own lawyers withdrawing from the case and accusing ***** of having misled them? They lied to their own lawyers.

the ability to enforce damages through applicable jurisdiction in Ukraine

Yes, but as the Ukranian government is intent on complying with EU standards to maintain its economic partnership with the bloc, these companies are gradually coming within the direct reach of the law. Any and all rulings will soon be enforceable.

EW and AR writers and customers, you really should be heading the effort to expose these scammers.
WRT   
Oct 01, 2009

***** may have been found guilty of many, many things by an American court, but it was not found guilty of masquerading as an American company.

Actually, it was found guilty of that charge. It was entered into the ruling against it and is one of the primary reasons for the $2+ million that ***** was ordered to pay SNR:

The ownership of *****'s 500+ sites was passed on to SNR. The real issue is this: ***** did not pay SNR the $2+ million. Why? Because, just like EW, AR and others, ***** was operating outside of the jurisdictions in question. Hence, customers and writers have no legal protection whatsoever. If you, as a writer, are not paid, there is absolutely nothing you can really do about it. If customers do not get their work, they can do very very little about it.

Therefore, in the absence of concerted and focused action, I will not hold my breath. We can, however, bring them down by spready consumer awareness; showing both customers and writers the truth.

I want to add something:
Ukraine is an EU Trade Priority Partner and is aiming for EU membership. That, however, will never happen unless Ukraine demonstrates compliance with EU standards (especially in areas of trade). The EU-Ukraine Cooperation Council overseas compliance. What does this mean? Ukraine will, eventually, have to crack down on its Yuriys and Alexies. Their operations are completely contrary to EU trading laws; they are utterly disrespectful of consumer protection and fair trade laws. They will, eventually, have to shape up or pay the piper. AR and EW are no longer as beyond the reach of law as they once were.

I still, however, will not hold my breath. Their writers and clients are way too passive.


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WRT   
Oct 01, 2009

Evidence to the contrary courtesy of WB.

I know the case and you are right to point it out :)
However,

Unless it can be proven that what they say they're doing is contrary to what they actually do.

Yes, but AR, RWC and EW, all very very clearly act contrary to their hardly visible disclaimers. They openly acknowledge (to their writers and clients) that the purpose is submission for academic credit. Not difficult to prove that they are acting contrary to what they claim as it is very very clearly stated on their writer sites. Just take a look at the EW screen shot I put up there.


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WRT   
Oct 01, 2009

You mean as in have to defend the nature of the service they provide? Not at all true. The legally registered, tax-paying companies have declared the nature of the service they provide (their (SIC(03) code). They cannot be held legally accountable for the provision of a legally recognised and approved, service as long as they do so within the bounds of the law. For example,

1) we can provide model researches and strongly caution customers against submitting our work as their own. Our cautions should be explicit, very explicit. They need to be emphasised and entered into our Terms of Service. They should not take the form of barely discernible 3-4 word disclaimers.

2) we may not sell research papers for the purpose of buyers' submitting them as their own work. Doing so is, in legal terms, defined as the participation and facilitation of fraud.

Some companies actively encourage clients to submit the work as their own, while others do not.

Can we be taken to court and forced to testify against our clients? Most of us have legally enforceable confidentiality agreements in place. So, no, we cannot be forced to ` give up' our client lists and we cannot be forced to testify against them UNLESS we have knowledge of their involvement in a crime. Unless one of our clients is a terrorist, a homicidal manic, a serial rapist, etc etc., and we know about it, then we won't and cannot be forced to testify against them in a court of law.


  • EW.net: Encouragement and Knowledge
WRT   
Sep 30, 2009

But have absolutely no teeth to enforce such prohibitions, right?

If we want to and can prove it, we can take the customer to civil court for the violation of the Terms of Service.

But there are laws against peddling homework too

Unethical does not necessarily mean illegal. Plagiarism is, unequivocally and inarguably, illegal because it is a form of 1) fraud and 2) involves the violation of copyright laws. `Homework peddling' (although this is not what the `real' companies and writers do) is not illegal. In both the EU and Australia, however, there is an attempt to define it as a form of `corruption.' If successful, this means that those who knowingly encourage and participate in plagiarism for financial gain, could be found guilty of facilitating public corruption.

I say we all just wait for charges to actually be filed and for foreign essay mill companies to actually be proven guilty of misrepresentation.

I do not believe that charges will be filed any time soon. I, for one, will not hold my breath. Furthermore, even if they are found guilty in a court of law, many of these companies are only paper-registrants in the UK and US; they are not physically located in either of these countries and their owners are not US or UK nationals. So, even if they are found guilty and a ruling is entered against them, how will it be enforced?
WRT   
Sep 30, 2009

Unforunately, that horribly improper site is loading "properly."

4writers.net appears to be just another name for essaywriters.net.

So, either they are one and the same or 4writers.net has plagiarised its copy from (of all the sites out there) essaywriters.

One thing I should convey to you is that the owner of 4writers isn't rigid as yourself regarding English.

Since the `owner' is selling professional English writing services, I think you just established that he is terribly unethical.

He is a true professional, because, he is employing his Soft, Interpersonal, and Technical skills to defeat the scams.

I can only understand English if it is written in English. Therefore, for the life of me, I do not understand what you are trying to say here.

I will apologise to 4writers.net if any point out where on their customers' site they state:
1) We do not really care whether the writers who work with us and who will be handling your English language researches, speak the language or not.

2) We do not provide a professional English language, academic research service but, a soft, interpersonal and technical one.


  • Testimonial of 4writers.net homepage

  • Testimonial on Essaywriters.net writer rate page
WRT   
Sep 30, 2009

Sorry-I meant "baboons."

I guessed and that's why I am reporting you. First you insulted "baboons" by calling them "buffoons," and then you mortally wounded the pride of an entire primate species by comparing them to the pride and joy of Ukraine - Alexei and Yuriy.
WRT   
Sep 30, 2009

4.) I disagree, on the grounds that this entire industry is unethical

Two wrongs do not make a right, especially not when there are a couple of little things called consumer law and consumer rights hanging over our heads.

supplying students their homework

Not all the companies and the writers in this business do that. Some very very explicitly (and in big print) dissallow the use of their services in any way which would violate academic integrity principles. Others only pay lip service to this basic ethics tenant through the publication of a hardly visble, 4-5 word, disclaimer at the footer of their homepage.
WRT   
Sep 30, 2009

Hey, WRT and Manunulat, do you believe what I type?

About them? No, I don't. Not a word. EW is honest and only ever hires qualified, Native English language speakers with PhD's and MA's. Same goes for Academia-Research and all the others. What do you think?

Seriously now, what has WB been saying over the past 3 years:
1) EW underpays writers and lies to customers;
2) AR underpays writers and lies to customers;
3) Unless you can actually write in English, don't write in English;
4) Companies should not claim to be American or British unless they really are (ownership is British/American and not just fake, online registration);
5) etc etc etc

Do I believe her? Definitely! Do I want her to continue? YES.

Short answer: Yes, I believe you on the issues and think you are doing a good job exposing the scammers.

Why don't you ask WRT or Manunulat if they believe everything that you're saying against me?

About you, as a person? No.
WRT   
Sep 30, 2009

That's what we think but bet you that Yuri and Alexei are Ukraine's most talked about success stories. Two home boys who made good on all that Perestroika had to offer. At least give them credit for having so successfully robbed, conned and lied their way to wealth.
WRT   
Sep 30, 2009

I signed up in 2006. Picked up one three-page order, assuming that the order total was their per page offering. After I discovered my mistake, decided not to write for them again. That was almost two years ago. Last week I received a flurry of emails from them so, out of curiosity, logged in. Guess what?! They had assigned me an order (never even notified me) and then proceeded to fine me about $150 for not delivering within the 48 hour deadline.

Customers - should you trust a site which assigns your orders to inactive writers?