One of my steadiest clients - past 3 years - never ever submits the papers as her own. She uses them as a model to write her paper (she uses the sources I cite, however, to save time). Several of the clients I have dealt with over the years do not submit the work as their own. Of course, some do. Point is that it is impossible to generalise at all ...

It is how they stay afloat which really has me wondering. Must be the constant "rebranding" (fake new ownership announcements) ...

I see!!! Very very interesting. And one can assume that some clients take advantage of this?

Yes - there was often a tremendous disparity between supposed "policy" and actual practice ...

On the basis of experience:
1) one of the best companies I ever contracted with (Washington-based, focuses only on graduate, post-graduate and business writing), did not have a fine system in place and freelance writers were always treated very well. As a result, hardly any ever left (or leave) the company ...

2) one of the worst companies I ever worked with had an arbitrary fine system in place (they'd assign you an expired order and then fine you). Consequence, very very high turnover ...

So, the way I see it, a company needs to focus on its writer recruitment system ... make sure (as much as is possible) that the writers it contracts with are both top-notch and responsible. Of course, slip-ups will happen but to prevent customers from suffering the consequences of these slip-ups:

1) the writer deadline has to precede the customer's deadline by at least 24 hrs in case of 5 day orders, etc ... if the writer does not deliver then the order should be given to another writer, ensuring on time delivery.

2) papers have to really be thoroughly checked for plagiarism, etc .... If plagiarism is detected, a staff writer is assigned the piece and the writer is fired.

Basically - am finding it difficult to grasp the logic behind fines and think it very insulting to writers (given they all are self-employed anyway). I may very well be wrong in my opinion, however.

In all honesty, I see how you could have interpreted it that way

In response to your question no EW

WB is back on track :)

So, am I right to conclude that the general consensus is that fines should be `out the door,' so to speak?

That is a very very interesting and legitimate point. I had not considered it before and see what you mean.

You are right! And the Clown didn't even bother to correct me. I guess it was just too busy correcting my own assumptions regarding my nationality an native language :)

Thanks for correcting me Pheelyks ... especially as my mentor the Clown let me down :)

Of course I was desperate Oh Great One ... I thought my little clown had abandoned me

Yes, I understand that fear ... 'they worry that the company would inform their university. However, most have confidentiality guarantees in place so, wouldn't they just be getting themselves into more and more trouble?

What I'm driving at here is that just because the customers happen to be students, that does not mean that they need to resign all their rights as provided by consumer protection acts and SOGA. Were they to take action, companies would be forced to clean up their act ...

Saw the question - yes, you are an excellent writer and only ever write on topics which you have absolute command over.

Now EW ... BE NICE!

Ok - what's the question? Just woke up and feeling a bit groggy :(

believe it or not, but I agree :)

I want to gather opinions on fines and would appreciate if everyone can stay on topic, please.

I am, personally, opposed to fining writers, whether for plagiarism, tardiness or whatever.
1) Tardiness: writers somtimes face situations beyond their immediate control (like falling ill) and, hence, are late in the delivery of a particular order. Should a company fine a writer for tardiness, even though s/he has a good track record and customers are generally satisfied with his/her work? I believe that fines may lead companies to loose good writers.

2) Plagiarism: Am not talking about a missing quotation mark but real plagiarism (as established by turnitin prior to the customer's receiving the work). From where I am standing, I think the writer should be fired, not fined.

The reason why I am asking is that some have told me that the absence of a fine system is not good business sense. Opinions, please?

Right, with the reason being that a person is, quite naturally, immersed in his/her first language, culturally, academically, etc etc. Think of it this way ... you learnt all about the world around you through your native language; you grew up and matured through that language ... your native language is part and parcel of who you are and, to a large degree, you define yourself through it. Certainly, there are some excellent ESL writers (so am not putting any down here and have openly stated that we do take on ESL writers) and am not denying that at all. For the majority, however, it is pretty tough and, more often than not, they do not attain the level of proficiency particular to native speakers.

Yes Clown, I am. You have to forgive me :( It seems as if you've abandoned me and I really don't know how I can ever live without you in my life! Pleeeeeeeaaaaase don't ignore me!

Precisely! Now, had I gone to Hogwarts, I am quite sure I would have learnt how to fly, lavitate, apparate and disapparate :) Who knows ... Prof Snape might even have taught me the Langlock and the Muffliato spells, despite my being a self-confessed Muggle :) Tell me Clown ... did they teach you all that at Hogwarts? You must have been their star pupil!

Clooooooowwwn! Where are you???!!!! Are you abandoning meeeee???? Please COME BACK! How am I supposed to live without you?! What do you want from me? I already admitted that I was wandering about in darkness until you showed me the light; I openly acknowledged that I had all these misguided notions about gravity and people not having the ability to fly, until you set me straight! I even admitted that I was a Muggle who would not be accepted into Hogwarts, no matter how much I tried! So .... please don't abandon me. I still have so much to learn from you ... I need you to set me straight about the speed of light and all that! COME BACK CLOWN!!!!!!

MODERATORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Send in the CLOWN pleeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaasssssseeeee!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes ... clown has "shattered" me. I was blind to its brilliance but now see the light and the light which emanates from our own lovable clown is, indeed, a glorious one. The truth which Clown speaks is, indeed, wonderful! I supplicate myself before you Clown and thank you ever so profoundly for making me see the errors of my way ... you have led me from the darkness Clown and I will, forever, be grateful :)


None is as great as you Clown ... I am nothing but a mere mortal and am not great like you :(

Of course am sure Clown but pls, it has to be a signed and stamped, scanned (full colour) copy. If you want to redirect us to a webpage ... well, what can I say? I do not want to shatter your self-illusions lest you leave the forum and we do enjoy having you here :)


Yes ... you are right. Do you think I should sue LSE? A graduate degree in international business law but am not considered a lawyer!!!! Yes, I will take them to court and DEMAND THAT I BE RECOGNISED AS A LAWYER!!!!!!!!! Will you help me Clown, as I am feeling a bit downtrodden here? After all, you wrote one law paper and are a lawyer, so why not me? I guess I am not as brilliant as you are ...

You know what else? I am going to sue Cambridge! I sat for my Biology O's and received a high mark ... YET I AM NOT ALLOWED TO PRACTICE MEDICINE AND AM NOT CONSIDERED A BIOLOGIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Exwriter, pls take on my two cases! I want recognition as a lawyer and a biologist NOW!!!


Yes - LSE is not what it used to be! They never taught us to fly, lavitate, walk through fire or walk on broken glass! And, you know what else? They even taught us that the laws of gravity were valid ... can you believe that? Were it not for you my lovable little clown, I would have gone through life believing in gravity.

Your claims are completely valid :) You are our lovable little clown ... our very own forum jester! How could we possibly disagree with you? I agree with everything you say ... anything to keep you here on the forum as your posts brighten my day and lighten my mood :) Please throw up another post ... ready for a good laugh and am waiting.

Hi clown - a grad degree in international business law does not make me a lawyer :) Well ... any educated person would know that so it is hardly surprising that you do not :)

As I said clown ... post your university degrees here and I will post mine ... so, how about it Clown?

And BTW - I do know that they are in violation of the Consumer Act, not to mention the Sales of Service Act. I do, however, prefer to ask a real lawyer :) You see, Clown, none of us (with the sole exception of your highly esteemed self) can know everything about all things. Of course I realise that any here know infinitely more than what you know and will ever know in a lifetime but, as brilliant as we all are ... we do not know everything. I, for one, (unlike you) have never learnt how to 1) lavitate, 2) fly, 3) walk through fire or 4) step all over broken glass with my bare feet without getting all torn up and bloody. You, Clown, are super-human while the majority here are mere mortals. Your brilliance shines through and blinds us :) And, of course, we are all terribly jealous that you picked out that wonderful name essaybrunch before we could even think of it!

The parent company is OR - not The Oxbridge Research Group (TORG). Our websites go by another name, although ownershp is clearly stated on all (and we are not solely a custom-research company ... that is only 1 of our activities).

Apart from two people on this forum (you and Clown), we have never been confused with TORG. And, any who want to stay away, please do :)


I primarily use it to recruit writers and get an insight into our competitors. As for students ... many who pose here as students are not. So, coming here in search of students is a wasted effort. The Student Study Center is a much better place to go for that.


Impossible ... have held the name for 10 years and am not about to change it (legal hassle is enormous) just because a handful confuse us with TORG. Anyway - I don't see AA/AK suffering much, despite the fact that two of their custom-research websites begin with the name oxbridge.

As for why oxbridgeresearchers is my handle ... it has something to do with my not wanting to fool anyone here about who I am, not to mention the fact that I (in the UK, at least), legally own that name. Furthermore, as stated, the name in question will not lead any to our custom-research websites ... you really have to search to get there using the name OxbridgeResearchers and will, quite probably, land up in a TORG website ...

No clown, your task is not "almost finished." So ... pls don't leave as we will miss you :) You are the forum jester and we need you here to keep things light and bright :)


Now ... that is a good one! :)


HEY!!!!!! Don't knock the Clown just coz you don't have any hope of comprehending its brilliance! Essaybrunch! What's wrong with the name? It is BRILLIANT!!!! Our lovable little clown (whom I have now taken up as my mentor) will corner the hungry student market!

Yes ... and comatose mods :)

Good morning Clown? I know reading and comorehending are particularly difficult for you but please try to go through anything I have ever posted (not just here, but on the Internet) and see if I ever claimed to be anything but female. Clown - I am not a hermaphrodite like you, thankfully? Tell me ... did you sleep well last night or did you have the usual night terrors as you dreamt of your sorry existence?


exwriter - want to ask you something. Isn't the advertising of false claims a cause for legal action? What about not delivering on contractual promises - when the service and good fail to meet the specs agreed upon? As far as I can see, TORG and others are in a vulnerable position. You are the barrister here, however, ... what do you think?


Not very different, phyleeks :)

All Americans here ... Phyleeks, WB, etc. Happy 4th July :)


exwriter - want to ask you something. Isn't the advertising of false claims a cause for legal action? What about not delivering on contractual promises - when the service and good fail to meet the specs agreed upon? As far as I can see, TORG and others are in a vulnerable position. You are the barrister here, however, ... what do you think?


Not very different, phyleeks :)

If you live in the UK, go to your Citizen's Advice Bureaux ... it is free and they will offer you all the guidance you need.

Important - do not be nice and tell them that if they do not pay up within the next couple of weeks, you intend to pursue legal action.


When Thing (aka Chacha the Clown), jumped in and inserted his retarded self in this discussion :)

Clown, in the spirit of giving credit where credit is due, were it not for you
1) I would have died without really understanding coulrophobia
2) I would have remained skeptical of Darwin's theory of evolution
So ... thank you :)

BTW - congratulations on receiving 3 orders! At this rate (1 month = 3 orders), you may well receive 36 orders a year! Remember to wash your hands before handling the essays, fry them on high heat and serve them hot. If you do that ... (surprise!) you may receive some more orders through essaybrunch :)

EW - you are a good writer but you are selling yourself short by working with essaywriters - you are much better than that. Plus, don't forget that you repeatedly confirmed that they were sc*m. So, you actually agree with much of what WB says :)

C'mon WB and EW - make peace.


But the thread is called Essaybrunch and the clown's pix is right up there :)

I don't know ... Fundi the Clown strikes me as a genderless, colourless, clueless, senseless, etc. hermaphrodite ... something like a slug :)

Clown ...
The essaybrunch homepage is visually disturbing. Too many font colours and sizes. Not only does it come across as shouting but as a sissy throwing a hissy ... Pay attention to font colour and size coordination.

Homepage contains several glaring linguistic mistakes ... mistakes not typos :) Prepositions are a particulary weak point with you.

Donation page (apart from being a ludicrous concept which could only have been dreamed up by a clown) is very very poorly written. Check the English and focus on prepostions.

Why Choose Us ... again very very poorly written and all those different font colours - an eyesore.

Who We Are ... well, thank you for removing the part about your being a group of anthropologists! However, not only is that page badly written but it really does not make any sense at all!

Keep on revising ... don't rest! Through hard work and dedication Clown, you may get it right at some point in the distant future.

That being said, you get an A for determination and persistence. Ok - I know that your persistant pursuit of a writing career is senseless and completely unrealistic but ... at least you are trying.

S'long clown ...

But you've got to admit UE was a scream! Especially the part about farming. It was all very chacha-esque ...

The clown's obsession with toilet paper is rather telling ... maybe Thing considers it a luxury?

WB - this forum has been shot to hell! The lunatics, led by Fundi the Clown, have taken over the asylum :)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you the first to call it?

Absolutely BRILLIANT!!!!!

The clown is absolutely green with jealousy! Any site which is better than the thing it created (which really means every site in the world) is libelled by it. What Thing forgot is that some here have its real details (if it weren't so stupid, it would know how :) ) ... I am going to swat it like the pesky little insect it is :)

Good one :)

Supposedly. And they have gone up from claiming to have 1,000 Oxford and Cambridge grads to almost 2,000. That is nothing, however, in comparison to this claim: "We contract over 50 former top investments bankers from prestigious firms such as Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan to help our clients prepare the perfect application." torg.co.uk/oxbridge-career-consultants.php

But we do want to take you seriously so pls pls try to sound a bit more sensical when you make your next appearance :)


Well ... the lights are all out in its head :)