I would say yes, there is certainly enough work available at present to write full time. You just have to understand that the industry is seasonal and work extra during peak periods to make up for the slow periods.

But, I'm not sure why you'd limit yourself to just this industry. If you want to write long term, you will likely enjoy your writing career more if you branch out into other areas of writing instead of only focusing upon essays. That strategy also protects you if this industry goes belly up.

The short answer is yes. The IRS wants you to report income from anywhere around the world.

Assuming that you would file as a self employed individual (Section C), then there are limitations. For example, if you earn less then 300$ from a company, they won't tax that.

You can find information on taxes and foreign income here:
irs.gov/businesses/article/0,,id=180946,00.html

Oh wow, that's horrible that it was so severely plagiarized but great for you in terms of getting your money back. It was kind of you to even let them try to fix a plagiarized paper. You better get 100% then.

Good luck.

Hi Kitty,

I think that it's very unlikely that you will get a 100% refund unless there is actual plagiarism within the paper. The writer who worked on your project may not have done the best job but they still worked on it and they still deserve some compensation for their effort.

Now, that doesn't mean that you don't have a strong case about why you deserve at least most of your money back. I would suggest the following:

1). Check the paper for plagiarism. There is often a link between poorly written papers and plagiarism. If you can find any portion of the paper plagiarized, then you'll be in a much better position and should be able to easily get 100% back.

2). Put together a schedule of dates - the due date, the lateness, etc. By being able to say exactly when the missed deadlines occurred, you'll be in a better position as well.

3). It sounds like, since you visited the local office, that you live in the same country as the company? That is great! I would consult a legal expert to find out your options. In the US it would probably be through small claims court but I don't know how the UK would handle a complaint (maybe julie can offer some advice here). I would think that once you have a clear legal strategy, you should visit them one more time - companies will hop to work with you once the legal threat is made in person. I assume that the UK also has organizations where consumers can complain about companies (like the BBB)?

4). Look over the directions that you gave and make sure that they were sufficient to get the quality that you wanted. If the instructions were vague, that is a problem for you and will be the source of the company's best defense.

Good luck.

Modeltermpapers is the less expensive branch of papermasters. If you can't find specific information about modeltermpapers, you may want to search for papermasters threads.

Yup, and that to quite consistent with the prices advertised. For example, bestessays (lots of complaints about them recently, so I picked them - foreign company) charges 16.95 per page for a paper written by someone that they claim has a masters or phd. in the field if the turnaround time is 7 days or more. I found a comparable price of $17.95 per page from an authentic American service, a 1$ difference.

So, by your own admission, you'd buy American.


If you read the first post in this thread, the whole point was to learn about the opinion of American students on outsourcing. If you weren't American, then your answer would really not apply for the purpose of struggling's question.

My question wasn't an attack, although you have insulted the intelligence and language skills of Americans on this board. Aren't you the one who said Americans only know two languages, English and bad English? And when I answered you asking about your own language skills and shared my own, you said nothing. When WB asked what country you were from, you refused to answer. That is why I did not believe it was very plausible that you're American.

I don't have to be certain of that. These companies claim to ONLY hire American and British writers, which we all know to be false.


American writers have stated that they accept working for 4-6$ per page; they got no wrath from WB that I remember. You just have to go back a few months to find the posts.

I think the low number of American writers who admit to working for 4-6$ per page isn't b/c they're afraid of Wb, it's b/c they're rare. B/c 4-6$ per page is a pittance in the U.S. With minimum wage laws poised to move some states above 10$ an hour, I don't see a person with a degree or two writing for that, full or part time.


Well sure, some care about the nation of origin, some don't. But the real point is that these companies deprive consumers of important information that could and likely does impact their decisions.

Why don't you look at the price difference and state it here instead of asking me to run around for you? Heh, I mean, come on...

Essaybay has changed the game anyway. When Israeli, Indian and Pakistani writers feel like they can charge 40-60$ per page, it sure does change things.

I mean seriously, 60$ a page? If a writer can't get through 4 pages in an hour, then the writer isn't competent, and I don't think anyone is going to claim that even a top writer is worth 240$/hour.

Actually, I think I've commented on the extremely low pay to writers offered by these companies, not on what they charge to students. I'm frankly much more interested in what writers get paid than in what consumers pay. These companies pay writers 4-6$ per page pretty frequently, which I won't work for, but that doesn't mean that they don't charge just a bit lower than real American companies. After all, if they charged considerably lower (like half), it would be just a bit obvious, wouldn't it?

American companies aren't charging double what these fraud companies are. That's why your question is flawed; pretty much anyone will choose the less expensive option and that option does not reflect reality.

Also, I think you're misinterpreting Corvus' answer, which is why my questions were a bit more clear. Corvus clearly stated that s/he would pay a bit more for an American paper than a non-American paper (300$ vs. 275$). I don't find that at all surprising and that's frankly in line with my understanding of how these fraud companies work.

Corvus, are you even an American consumer? Based on your previous posts, including the bagging on Americans, the refusal to state your home country, and your generally negative outlook on the industry, I'd be surprised to learn that you are an American consumer/student.

Again, you are missing an all important and large third group. These are the students who choose a company like MasterPapers because they think they are getting American writers at a bargain price. Only later do they find out, when their paper is trash and being ignored by customer service, that they were cheated by a company lying about hiring Americans.


I think this whole car analogy is really bad. First, car companies don't lie about where they are based and where the cars are made. Second, car companies are held to the same standards and are closely regulated - ie, Toyota can't build a dud that is sold in the US that fails to meet emissions. Third, conscientious shoppers can still buy cars that are manufactured in the US. I don't drive a Ford (sorry WB) but both of our family cars were built in the US. My first car was a Ford and I certainly did get it back then in part b/c it was an American car.

And also, outsourcing in this industry doesn't really work like it does elsewhere. An orange is still an orange whether it is grown in Florida or the Dominican Republic. A Ford car and a Toyota car... still a car.

A paper that is produced by a student from the US and a student from DR is going to be very different b/c the students were produced in different school systems. I don't even write for British students b/c frankly I don't know and have no interest in learning UK educational standards or citation styles. Some of these ESL writers think that just speaking English is sufficient to produce a quality essay and I disagree.


You're ignoring the fact that the majority of complaints are directed toward the companies that lie about hiring American writers only. The two are linked. If these students weren't being initially conned, they wouldn't be posting.

Hm, I have to agree with WB. Struggling, your questions are really biased and not really factual.

1. No one provides perfect work always.

2. I don't think the price differences are that big. Heck, there are writers from developing nations who are asking 60$ per page on Essaybay. As an "expensive" American writer, I don't come anywhere near that.

3. See answer to #1.

If you really wanted an unbiased sample, I don't see why you wouldn't ask:

1. As a consumer, do you prefer your paper to be written by someone from your country or does the nation of origin of your writer not matter?

2. As a consumer, are you willing to pay a little more to ensure that your paper is written by someone from your country?

Not to mention, you are completely ignoring the fact that people who get screwed over by companies not based in their own country have no legal recourse. Note, I always recommend that consumers buy papers from companies originating in their own countries b/c failing to do so leaves them no protections.

I don't particularly care about the exact reasons for a student's preference for a writer from their nation. It seems to me clear that such preferences are the norm and that some companies exploit the desires of their consumers by blatantly lying about their employees.

That said, I don't think that WB is off base about the many reasons why an American consumer could prefer an American writing company. As consumers, the husband and I tend to buy products that we know are produced in the United States and we don't support companies that outsource whenever possible. I think a lot of Americans think that way.

Besides, I think that WB's point wasn't that all Americans think that way but that these are just some of the choices that are deprived to consumers when they are lied to by a company. That's certainly true.

Struggling, it would seem to me, pretty easy to assume that there is a competitive advantage to claiming to be an American company in this industry. The majority of the clients are American.

If there were no economic incentives to appearing American, then the companies that EW works for would not lie. The fact that they do speaks volumes.

And companies that appear to be willing to lie about their writers are also the ones that gather the most complaints from customers. This and other sites are ample testimony of that. So, there appears to be a pretty strong link between lying about writer quals and cheating students with poorly written/never written projects.

And, btw, since you brought up motives, I don't have a problem with competitors in the industry. I work for 3-4 companies at once; more competition lets me pick and choose between a wider variety of jobs and deadlines. However, if I do have a motive, I would like to see these frauds go away, because they make the industry look bad by lying to and cheating consumers.

Oh please, so your only choice is to write or starve? Aren't you the one who brags about how much you make in your day job and then you write on top of it?

Besides, you don't have to ignore the profitable opportunity right in front of you. Set up a website and get to work. I've stated a few times that I think a well educated, articulate ESL writer would make a killing with consumers by offering a quality product at a reduced price. You don't have to lie, yet you choose to do so b/c that's what's easy.

Or work for a company that hires ESL writers and doesn't lie to its consumers. If you really think that the qualifications don't matter, then working for a company that doesn't lie shouldn't impact your profits at all, right?

Or do other freelancing. There are tons of writing jobs on the net. It's not like anyone is forcing you to work for a company that cheats its consumers.

Struggling, your answer really bothers me b/c I think you are just looking at this wrong.

In what industry is it acceptable for a business to lie to the consumer? Not creatively describe its products and services through marketing or advertising, but to make false claims about the qualifications of its employees?

My guess is that you will have a tough time coming up with an answer. I do not understand why you would find it acceptable for a business to lie to its consumers, in this or any other industry.

If they're non-issues then stop supporting a company that lies about the identity of its writers.

it's really clear that the lies are widespread and believed by both writers and consumers alike, as demonstrated by the posts on this board by writers who STILL think EWwriters and Academia are American.

this is such an old issue. freedom suggests accurate knowledge. your company lies to consumers. falsehoods remove a person's freedom.

i'm not sure you can rely on the old "better prices for quality essays" when essaybay is quoting 60$ per page either. rip off artists to the extreme.

I think that part of the problem may be that these fraudulent companies lie about being American, Frostat. At least, the ones that you have mentioned so far, like EW writers and Academia, are NOT American, despite the fact that they lie to consumers and writers about being American.

I'm not saying that it's not possible that you got cheated by an American company, but the ones mentioned so far are frauds that are not in the U.S.

If a writer does get cheated by an American company, I'd be happy to do what I can to help them pursue ways to get paid.

Thanks Frostat, I'd like to know b/c I haven't heard of any writers having problems with companies based in the U.S.

Calm, EW is just trying to pull you into an ongoing feud that can be found in bits on pretty much all of the currently active threads. If you're American or seeking an American company, this information might be helpful to you as you navigate the industry.

Most American companies are required by law to not support cheating by their student populations. Therefore, American companies will tell you not to turn in their product as your own work. American companies typically also won't do a title page for the student. So, if you call an American company and ask if you can cheat using their work, the answer will be no.

Now, do companies accept that some students will still turn in the papers? The answer is yes, backed up by research, that as much as 2-5% of students still turn in the papers as their own. It's a risk within the industry that all companies accept. It's not like American companies track the use of the essay or will knock on your door if you think about cheating with it. Like any other industry, what you do with it after purchase is up to you.

EW wants to claim that the companies that he works for are serving a different population of students b/c his companies aren't based in the US and therefore tell students to use their papers to cheat. I tend to think that's a flimsy argument, but it's his. What he doesn't tell you is that his companies lie to their consumers by claiming to employ English and American writers, when in fact they do not. You can decide if you want to deal with that yourself.

As for pricing, your original question. I'd say that low 20's is a fair standard price per page of an undergraduate level paper with no extraneous or strange requirements. $30 or so for graduate level. Those tend to be industry standards, with variation caused by some of the factors that I discussed above.

Now, those include the fee that a company charges in addition to the payment given to the writer. I have, at times, thought about striking out on my own; if I did, I expect I'd lower the prices a bit since I wouldn't have to give some % of the money to the company. So, if you can find and want to work with just a single writer, not a whole company, then you can expect the prices to be a bit lower. Again, such an option contains risks for both you and the writer.

The price that you stated is really pretty high. I've noticed that some companies follow no real rhyme or reason on their prices. For example, at essaybay, the writers bid their price and then the company adds a set fee on top of that, which can lead to very high prices from what I've seen. I just checked their site to make sure that my info is accurate, and here's one example, a 5 page paper order where the lowest bid is $60.00 per page:

essaybay/00730/essays/Law/What-light-do-Dworkin-and-Waldron% 27s-arguments-on-constitutional-adjudication-based-on-a-bill-of-rights-thro w-upon-the-legitimacy-of-judicial-activism-in-Australia%3F-

Even urgent, that seems high to me. Course, some folks like that company and that doesn't happen in every case, so again, it's consumer choice. If consumers are really paying $60 per page, then I definitely need to increase my rates hehe.

I've been thinking about your question a bit since yesterday. I think it's probable that your high price is a combination of the subject matter and timing. Right now, it's really busy. I have an upper level degree in a hard science, which isn't true of a lot of writers. As a result, I get my pick of health/science projects, which can get numerous. It's possible that the high price is just a function of the high demand placed upon the writer's time. When I don't really want a job but have it offered to me, I'll tend to bid higher than normal in order to make it worth my time. That may have happened to you with your quote.

In the end, whatever you do, I would still advise you to purchase from a company that is based in the country where you reside, whenever possible. That way, at least you have some legal recourse if things go sour.

Seriously EW, does every thread need to get turned into your personal vendetta against WB? You're acting like a child.

What American company cheated you?

I don't have any experience with them. I did find this, however:
essayfraud/forum/Dissertationexpert-t637.html&pid=1540

Just based upon the information you gave, the price seems high to me Calm.

That seems a bit high but you really don't include enough information to judge the price. Additional information that would impact the price include:

-The Deadline that you gave (how long they have to work on it)

-The level of difficulty (PhD level?)

-The number of sources required (if you wanted a 6 page paper and 30 references, for example, sure expect to pay more)

-The subject area - is this economics or math, requiring calculations and/or analysis?

-Requesting a specific writer (with whom you might have already successfully worked in the past - they may not always be available at the regular price).

We're in the middle of busy season. I know I'm swamped and I imagine a lot of folks are in the same boat. Prices may reflect the timing as well.

For the best price, always try to give a minimum of a week on your project and be reasonable about the number of citations (ie, keep citations = or < the number of pages).

Freelancer posts good things about a known fraud and has only one post on the forum. Hm...

MM, I think you'd be better off listening to Frostat.

All quotations in this are given in italics, since I noticed it was tough to read otherwise.

Actually, only one of the schools link to that particular document that I saw. And, both link to a lot of different sites, including American sites, on how to avoid plagiarism. Now, when they are linking to American sites on how to avoid plagiarism, I think you can see the problem. For example, both of them link to Indiana University's site about plagiarism, which a lot of other schools do as well. IU defines plagiarism as:

"Plagiarism is defined as presenting someone else's work, including the work of other students, as one's own. Any ideas or materials taken from another source for either written or oral use must be fully acknowledged, unless the information is common knowledge. What is considered "common knowledge" may differ from course to course.

a. A student must not adopt or reproduce ideas, opinions, theories, formulas, graphics, or pictures of another person without acknowledgment.

b. A student must give credit to the originality of others and acknowledge an indebtedness whenever:

1. Directly quoting another person's actual words, whether oral or written;

2. Using another person's ideas, opinions, or theories;

3. Paraphrasing the words, ideas, opinions, or theories of others, whether oral or written;

4. Borrowing facts, statistics, or illustrative material; or

5. Offering materials assembled or collected by others in the form of projects or collections without acknowledgment. "

indiana.edu/~istd/definition.html

A fairly lengthy definition of plagiarism that includes essay sites not at all.
Now, this definition fits the definition offered by both Edinburgh and Brighton. Brighton defines plagiarism as:

"Definition of academic misconduct
2.1 Academic misconduct includes, but is not limited to:
- Plagiarism and collusion. Where a student submits work originated in sum or in part by someone else, with or without their consent but without acknowledgement;

- Falsification or fabrication of results, data or references;
- Duplication. Where a student submits work for assessment that is the same as, or broadly similar to, work submitted earlier for academic credit, without acknowledgement of the previous submission;

- Cheating in an invigilated examination. Where a student copies from unauthorised material or from another student's script within an examination room, communicates with another person during an examination, consults information or individuals while absent from the examination room, or attempts to gain a higher grade by fraudulent means;

- Personation. Where one person assumes the identity of another with the intention of gaining unfair advantage for that person;
- Ghosting. Where a student submits as their own, work that has been done as a whole or in part by another person on their behalf, or deliberately makes available or seeks to make available material to another student with the intention that the material is to be used by the other student to commit academic misconduct.

2.2 For the purpose of these regulations, the term `work` is taken as any academic work undertaken towards summative assessment." (link above)
Now Brighton's mention of ghosting is an interesting one, but as you can see, they specifically say ghosting is a problem when a student submits the work as their own or when the ghosting is completed by individuals intending for the student to use the work for commit academic fraud. Neither of those cases apply to legit services. In fact, the wording is so close to the wording used by legit services that I have to wonder if they didn't write the definition with essay companies in mind, but not in a bad way.

Now, Edinburgh defines plagiarism as:

"The following are examples of plagiarism:
1. Including in one's own work extracts from another person's work without the use of quotation marks and the acknowledgement of the source (which may be a book, a research paper, a web source, another student's work, a lecturer's comments or class notes, data, lab work or pictures etc.).

2. Summarising another person's work without acknowledgement.
3. Using the ideas or help of another person without acknowledgement of the source (Help can include, for example, the provision of materials or assistance from technicians).

4. Copying the work of another student, with or without their knowledge or agreement.
5. Collaborating with students or others on a piece of assessed work that should be completed and submitted individually .
6. Cutting and pasting from electronic sources without explicit acknowledgement of the URL / author, and without explicitly marking the pasted text in inverted commas, or labelling the source of the diagram or illustration. The inclusion of large amounts of such pasted material, even if acknowledged, always raises doubts about how much of the work presented should be credited to the student. The same applies to over-quotation from a traditional, printed source." (link above)

Again, no mention in the slightest of any problem with professional writing services helping the student. Edinburgh even specifically states that getting a proofreader is NOT plagiarism.

"- Will I be accused of plagiarism if I get a proof-reader to check my work?
Proof-reading is defined as reading to detect errors to be corrected. It is good practice to proof-read your work before submitting it for assessment. This enables you to check for errors and make sure that you are happy with the way that you have presented your findings, arguments or ideas, before the work is marked. You may also choose to ask someone else to read through the work for you and see if they can spot any spelling, grammar or punctuation mistakes, so that you can correct these before submitting the work for assessment. Proof-reading your work in this way is good academic practice and will not lead to accusations of plagiarism" (Edinburg, link above).

I found this interesting since I do a LOT of proofreading. I assume you don't have a problem with essay sites providing proofreading services?

I find it odd that you are so committed to distinguishing UK and US schools when UK schools rely upon US schools for their definition of plagiarism. I don't understand why you would use a link about plagiarism that is not used by all schools instead of simply using the schools' own definition of plagiarism as outlined in the student handbook.

Furthermore, I don't think that link is as anti-essay sites as you'd like it to be. Sure, it says students shouldn't turn in purchased essays as their own (obviously) but it doesn't say that all essay site use is plagiarism or bad. It does mention a study that says essays bought are generally poor quality, which is funny, but not quite the same thing as condemning all use.

Um... are you sure about all universities in the UK banning the use of essay writing sites? That claim piqued my interest so I did a random search of a few UK universities. Oxford does explicitly ban the use of essay writing sites, but I found several others that make no mention of professional sites as being the automatic equivalent of plagiarism. For example:

The University of Brighton's Plagiarism Guide:

staffcentral.brighton.ac.uk/clt/resources/documents/plagiarism%20awareness% 20pack%202007-8%20finalfrom%20registry.doc

The University of Edinburgh:
aaps.ed.ac.uk/regulations/Plagiarism/Guidance/StudentGuidance.doc

Neither of these schools mention professional services. They both stress the need to cite one's sources, which is about what I'd expect. I have no doubt that some UK schools may explicitly ban the use of essay writing sites but it certainly does not appear that all do so. I am certainly interested in knowing where you gained the information that all universities ban any use of essay sites.

Actually, I got the 2-3% figure primarily from 2 studies based in the U.K., though US studies found similar results. If you search this forum, I posted links to the studies.

Do you have any links on this effort? I'd like to find out more about it. If we are thinking of the same situation, what I had read previously was that there was a high rate of plagiarism, not that there was a specifically a problem with plagiarism through essay sites, but I'd certainly like to read more about the subject.

one harm to the company would be in the time and resources required to update and maintain the essay bank on the web. do you know how many essays are completed a day? i think i wrote about 5,000 pages last year (conservative estimate). with a company that employs 60+ writers, you can bet the time and resources required to make the essays publicly available would impose a substantial resource drain. that's why the government shouldn't do it.

unless you are suggesting that the government provide financial incentives to support the development and upkeep of these required websites. after all, that seems fair, doesn't it? i don't see taxpayers accepting such a plan, however.

making the essays available to individual universities would also be insanely expensive. would the company need to send the essay to every university in the country? in the world?

is that really your standard for a law? if it doesn't do too much bad, let's do it? i mean... yeesh.


savvy students will stop ordering essays and just wait until essays become publicly available via the mandated, public websites... so such a "legal requirement" would be the equivalent of a death sentence for the companies. that's another disadvantage to your proposition.

you know, what you are proposing violates the basic principles of publishing. why do you think books aren't published on the web free of charge? yeah... because if they are free to everyone, then no one rational will be willing to pay.


What laws ban the use of essay writing sites at the university level? if that is the case, why are you exploring legal options to restrain the activities of essay companies? It would seem that the case is closed in the UK.


in the case of some companies, clients know the name of their writer. in the case of others, as WB explained, the client can reference the company. i would expect that referencing the company is the norm since the writer does not own the paper after it is written.

so, struggling, will you be answering my question about the % of students who use essays to cheat or are you conceding that the number of cheaters is roughly 2-3% of all consumers? do you think it's reasonable to impose obligations upon an industry where that low a percentage of consumers misuse the product? I think it's pretty ridiculous, the sort of policy attempt that won't accomplish anything but makes the politicians feel good about doing something.

after all, more people use the internet and books to plagiarize than essays (again, this is backed up by research). so... if you are really interested in decreasing plagiarism, i'd suggest you focus your attention on areas likely to generate better results.

Hey former, you ignored my question on the other thread but maybe you'll answer here. What American companies hire non-EFL writers?

See, I tend to think that your logic is flawed. I'm an EFL writer and I command a lot of money per page to write anything. I make 3-5X what ESL writers are asking. If the company wanted to save money, I'm sure I'd be the first to be let go. But I'm still inexplicably working. Hm...

Hey WB, how many languages are you packing? I'm guessing at least three. The PhD in English pretty much requires it.

Me, I max out at 4, but then one is Old English, which technically isn't spoken anymore so folks may not want to count it. I guess I could feel inferior but I tend to figure that my additional degree in a hard science is the equivalent of at least one language. Oh, do computer languages count? Then I'm easily hitting 6. Not bad for an American.

So Corvus, how many languages do you speak?

I think it is very difficult to impose a legal liability upon a company that furnishes a product that is then misused by the consumer against the explicit wishes of the company. I think we can both imagine the regulatory nightmare that would result if the government attempted to step in to impose penalties upon every business that provides a product that could be misused by the consumer. Such a standard of liability would cripple a great many industries beyond this one.

I'm a libertarian, so I'm not much of a fan of a nanny state. I would need you to explain to me a bit better what you mean by a "legal obligation to make their work available to the universities to ensure a student cannot submit the essay." It seems to me that the government should not be in the business of penalizing an industry because its product might be misused by a relatively low percentage of its consumers. In your research, have you found a percentage estimate of the number of students who buy essays and turn them in as their own? When I did the research on those figures, the numbers looked to be 2-3% of consumers. That hardly seems like a sufficient reason for legal intervention.

I also tend to shy away from the term "moral obligation." That seems like a phrase that should be used for significant and important occasions, lest the significance of the phrase be diminished. You know, like acts of genocide or the abuse of human rights, not the risk of some college kids turning in a paper that they didn't write themselves. The wider issue of plagiarism (in all its forms) is certainly an important challenge for educators but its solution is hardly tantamount to a moral imperative.

Hilarious. Poor, busted Jeffrey.

How do you know they're an American company? They don't claim to be on their site. They also don't claim to only hire American or EFL writers. The low page prices are pretty much a dead giveaway that this site doesn't employ EFL writers. We can't survive economically on 4$-6$ per page.

It seems that you went to a cheap site, gambled and lost. You really don't have anyone to blame but yourself.

Wb is right. The American companies I've worked for do tell customers that they can't turn in the papers for a grade, both on their website, on the phone and via email. Encouraging a customer to cheat with the paper would jeopardize the future of the company.

And orders are coming in just fine so customers must not mind.

Unprez - it's nice of you to mention your writers by name, i'm sure they appreciate the kudos.

ShadowVlican - any info on your project?

Lewy - Interesting question. Paying through paypal might give you a bit more privacy and they still have a resolution process like a credit card company would, but I think you'd have a hard time completely hiding your identity in a transaction. Once you find a reputable company, you won't have to worry so much.

Maybe it's just a joke. The disastrous presentation IS funny.

it's "principle" not "principal."

some other funny mistakes as well.

sigh, this board has become one big advertising site.

Greetings Llama,

I believe that Customessaymeister is not based in the UK or the US. I remember reading a few negative comments upon them over the last few months. If you use this forum's search function, you can search for "customessaymeister" and you'll get a bunch of hits. One example:

https://essayscam.org/forum/es/customessaymeister-stole-watch-360/#msg4898

Did you have personal experiene with bestesssays and custompapers? Bestessays is a pretty well known fraud but I haven't seen anything negative about custompapers so I'm a little surprised that you included them. Maybe you are confusing them with customwriting.co.uk (which is affiliated with masterpapers.com, which you also mentioned as a fraud) or custom-writing.org, which are fairly well known frauds.

Anyway, good luck to you.

That seems like a cultural difference between the US and the UK. I have worked with a lot of students over the years who were actually recommended to a company by a professor in order to get help with their writing, particularly ESL students. Professors don't have the time to go back and teach writing skills and so quite a few recommend custom support.

Struggling, your phd topic sounds like an interesting one. I know in the US we have to follow fairly strict rules in order to remain legal. For example, the essay companies based in the US cannot legally endorse cheating and they have to tell clients that the papers are only to be used as references/writing aids. I think it's true in at least some states that the essay company cannot create title pages for someone else.

Does the UK have similar rules? I've never worked for a UK based company and don't know how the UK is handling the problem of cheating.

i posted one question rather nicely and i'm "rattled" by my loss of "high priestess domain"? LOL.

Thank you for the good laugh.