I have no idea about your policies; but you have no right using "good English" in a statement. Why? Because you don't have it!

Pheelyks, I think you're wrong too. They lost ALL their "good English" writers when you left.

Did you mean 'LICK'? I'm an ESL writer too; but, even I know you can't write. How did you land a writing job in the first place?

LMAO!!!!!! :)))


This is actually a very good rate where I'm from. Therein lies the problem. We have engineers, lawyers, and even some doctors who don't make that much; and don't get me started on teachers' pay. I'm even tempted to try it out myself.

*AsianWriter is still on the fence.*

What?!

You want us to get the same "illegal" opportunities native English speakers are getting? What the f**k are you talking about? Dude, you just called the entire industry ILLEGAL; now you want us to get a piece of the action. Are you mental or something? You are obviously NOT in the right state of mind!

And what's with all the dots (..............) when you write? Several dots after a word or a phrase is used to signify a missing word or phrase. Whereas, a single dot or asterix (*) connotes a missing letter (i.e. f**k). When you write "a...s.....s..." and mean "ass" (mods, please permit me to use this for the sake of driving home my point), then you don't need the dots.

Face it Fracturehead! You have absolutely no right to call yourself a writer!

That is deep, Matt! It is something to think about.

Frankly, I don't see anything wrong with it. Maybe, Clara wasn't reading the dates. Honest mistake, me thinks.

Don't you ever quit? I know you were asking WritersBeware, but maybe I can give you my two-cents-worth...

First, you claim that the entire essay writing industry is an "illegal giant" and that we should "stop the giant". Then, later, you go on to say that you (and other ESL writers) should get a piece of this "illegal" industry, which, you claim, is being hogged by native English speakers.

Here's my question for you: If it is, as you say, illegal, then why would you want any part of it? It smacks of hypocrisy!

Another thing you don't seem to understand is that it isn't just your English skill that sucks. Your communication skills are worse. People have to struggle to understand what you are saying. I've seen "bad" English in this forum from ESL and native English speakers alike; but, at least, I understood what they were trying to say. With you, it's like "toothache" everytime I try to make an effort to understand you.

Dude, you need help!


Okay! That was just my opinion. You have a point, though. Everybody should "judge the landscape" before making any sort of post.

@Clara: This simply means, look before you leap.

Steve, I don't get it. Principle? You paid another person to write a paper that you should have written yourself. Then, you passed it off as your own. How can you talk about principle? It would have been better if you just said that it was about the money.

I don't know much about the essay writing industry. I write for a totally different industry. So, maybe, you can explain to me how this is a moral issue and how you can start claiming the "high ground".

Kitty, Mat doesn't order from these sites. He writes for them. He was showing us something that his client sent him.

Good. But you should've thought about that before you took the moral high ground. Anyway, this is the last you'll read about it from me.


This I gotta see.

I agree that Steve should get his money back. He paid for a service and should get what he paid for. I just didn't like how he took the moral high ground.

Hey Eugene! Pay the guy back his money! Prove to us that you're not the "thief" we think you are.


LOL! Felix, that was my morning cup o' coffee!


Terrific! Another "qualified" ESL. It's guys like you that give us a bad rep!


I am absolutely baffled by it!

Ah! The infamous legal loophole! Maybe I should get into this gig. It looks like good money. I see a lot of the "dos" and "don'ts" in this forum; so if I get into this, I'll just do the "dos" and don't the "don'ts". Possibilities, possibilities...

Try this site: articlechecker.com

To the Mods - If this post goes against the TOU, go ahead and delete it.

And one more thing, Chibi... Only select the "Google" option. If you select both "Google" and "Yahoo", it messes up the search.

Are you guys asking about ArticleChecker.com?

You're right about it being a Google search; however, instead of searching "words" individually, it searches "sentences and phrases". ArticleChecker.com also searches the literature found in Google books.

I'm curious as well.

Have Steve and Eugene resolved their differences? A puzzlement, it is.

I don't know, buddy. New students every year from different countries -- all needing English essays, as "samples", of course (wink). I'd say it's far from being saturated. Anyways, that's just me and my greedy mind thinking.


I must admit, that's a good enough reason for me NOT to get into this -- the "lazy" part, I mean. LOL!

WritersBeware, WRT and johnsmith,

I've been looking at your arguments against EssayIndusty's topic, but I honestly can't see anything wrong with the topic. I have also read enough of your past posts to conclude that you guys are logical and (mostly) objective in your arguments. This only leads me to conclude that you probably know EssayIndustry personally or, maybe, you've had some bad experience with him somewhere else. You guys might know something we don't.

Care to share?

As a matter of fact, I do understand what WritersBeware is saying. It's you I can't understand.

You and others like you are the reason ESLs can't get any respect in this industry. I have worked hard to write English properly. I suggest you make life easier for "qualified" ESLs and stop writing... period!

Stop pretending that you're using English and just get a job that fits you. Leave the writing to the "real" writers. Better yet, take a hike! You don't belong in this industry!


Now how the heck did you get this Idea? Pheelyks, if you're getting paid, I want in!

I totally agree!

You're not making any sense! Is there even one iota of intelligent thought in your head?


Those a Filipino names. This is even worse. Not only are you an unqualified ESL writer, you're also from my country. I'm based in Thailand now, but I am Filipino. I've got a few words of wisdom for ya, Solomon...

Huwag ka nang magkunwaring writer! Tumahimik ka nalang! (Stop pretending you're a writer! Just shut up!) - Sorry about this folks. I couldn't help it.

Actually, that's one of the Indian dialects. So I guess Fracturenose isn't Filipino. Whew!


You're most welcome.

Two can play that game...

Tangina mo! Palibhasa bading ka. Sana madapa ka!

Let's see you translate that, b***wipe!

I'm not trying. It comes naturally for me. You, on the other hand, are a moron.

I know that "lada" means "pepper" and that "mana" means "where".

Now your turn...

Kainin mo nalang ang ebak mo para ma-dedo ka na!


Dude, if I was really from your country, I would disown you.


What are you talking about? You've really gone over the deep end now!

First of all, it's "Philippines", not "Philippine"! Why would I pretend to be Filipino? You, on the other hand, have every reason to pretend that you're human.

And yes, I do love money. So what? If you say that you don't want to have money, then you're a liar!

The truth? What is the truth?

Again, which "truth" am I supposed to be sacrificing for money? As far as I know, everything I've posted here is the truth. How dare you even insinuate that I'm lying.

Do you really want to make this a religious debate as well? You think I'm Muslim? Then again, what if I am? And if I'm a Jew or a Catholic? What does my religion have to do with anything in this forum?

As far as I'm concerned, you're probably a cockroach... although that might be an insult to cockroaches.


You are one sick person. You need psychological help.

Yes! You are wrong! You just insulted Muslims everywhere. For the record, I am not a Muslim; but I respect everyone's religion. You, however, are judgmental.


You don't even know how old I am. You always make stupid assumptions without verification. Frankly, you are the one who's "reality-impaired". The people in this forum have been trying to tell you just what is wrong with you;but you just keep on assuming the wrong things and you keep making outlandish statements... all because you cannot comprehend proper English.

Get a clue, will ya?

She claimed to be a writer in one of her earlier posts.

And what would that be, Salazar?

Hey Fracturebrain,

The cockroaches are demanding that I take back my statement earlier:


I have to agree with them. You are not a cockroach. You're much lower down the food chain.

This is the reason I'm so p*ss*d! When I first tried to apply as a writer long ago, I got rejected several times because of the misconception "legitimate" companies have with ESLs. This is what happens when these "illegitimate" companies hire people like Fractureskull as writers. It isn't fair to us!

It kindda gives you a "nose bleed", doesn't it?

As I've mentioned before, I'm Filipino. I'm just based in Thailand. And... I believe that trying to speak and write like an American or a Brit or an Aussie is a lot better than trying to be a moron... oh wait... you're not trying, are you? LOL!!!

Hahaha! Hey Pheelyks, Fracturehead thinks that what you said was vulgar.

Hey Fracturebrain... This is precisely why you shouldn't be writing! You can't see the difference between vulgarity and a simple statement.

Again, here's another difference between you and me... I don't have to check the dictionary.

I don't get it. Didn't your dad teach you that if you're going to do something, then you have to do it right. So, if you're going to write in English, you should emulate native English speakers, right?

You implied that I'm a sell-out. Well, using your flawed logic, so are you. We both write for English speaking clients, dweeb!

Salazar, you're not making sense again. Did you forget your medication?

I think that goes against the TOU of this forum.

Like I said John... nosebleed!


Spare us, please!