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nom_de_plume   
Jun 22, 2007

Do they pay you as much as their "top" writers from Pakistan? Do you get $5.00 per 225 words posted in this forum? LOL!

This is the second time you have accused me of that and the nth time you have accused posters who post opinions and facts within their personal knowledge and an nth time to display your utter lack of 'matter up there.'

Writers SOSSuch utter stupidity-'lay your predicate' first. Consult a lawyer-I am sure you do not know what that means.

Facts and opinions which work for the identified bashed sites and hurt your group's 'designed plan' --you try in vain to 'discredit' by maligning the character of the poster. For the intelligent readers-we call it something else.

One of the posters and message thread starter here posted a message to the effect that you should not write AGAIN for essaywriters. Then surprisingly-the message thread and the message posted were deleted.

What were you doing writing for essaywriters.net-to check their business practices, Amy resurrected? You are just one big filthy lie.
For the second time, I can excuse your SENILITY--I will reply to your question--I am not serving at the whim of anybody-and I am not being paid for posting my free and true thoughts. I wish I could say the same thing about you.

Why is it that you perceive that anyone who states true facts but in favor of the identified bashed sites-you readily boss them around, label them, ridicule them, maliciously impute that the poster is a shill for the bashed site? Such profanity . . .such lack of manners, such pathetic lack of good education, such lack of decency!

Readers are saturated and are sick already of your 'name calling' and the over run lines. Do this forum a favor!

FU.

Your mouth is like an infected wound-with pus oozing-and you stink like a rat at an advanced stage of decomposition.

when you take the bait, you swallow the hook!

"Self-deception is nature; hypocrisy is art." The easiest person to deceive is oneself.

And I gotta tell you something about Latin--I didn't particularly care for it for the two years it was required in my Jesuit high school, and even less in law school.

Obfuscate is NOT 'to screw up' But 'to confuse.' As you have admitted you didn't pay attention when the rules of logical reasoning in Latin were taught-so it is not my fault that you are confused. . I was hoping you 'paid particular attention to the academics of it " before so that perhaps you would be able to understand what I was saying.

Simple logic.

By the way, you blew the answer.

I do not think so, do not assume. "The only ways of enquiry that lead to knowledge ... the one way assuming that being is and that it is impossible for it not to be, is the trustworthy path, for truth attends it. The Other, that non-being is and that it necessarily is, I call a wholly incredible course, since thou canst not recognize not-being ... nor couldst thou speak of it, for though and being are the same things."

-let me post the previous reply
You said,
"But, you will make my point for me. How? You will answer your own question--believe me, every good lawyer can do that. "
I replied:
"I do not agree with your second premise and therefore your conclusion, as well. Any good lawyer worthy of his profession does not make it easy for the opposing counsel by laying it 'on a silver platter.' ;-) "

It is parties in interest and not 'of.'

As we all know, "you can be a dog on the Internet"

Maybe not.
After reading your last two posts, I know how crucial it is for you to apply 'clarity'

Here I am, pitching a ***** about essaywriters on a board they obviously monitor--or participate in, eh, Name of Pen?

"To uphold the honor and dignity of the legal profession . . . The lawyer's conduct toward other lawyers should be characterized by courtesy"

In retrospect, I was not talking to you. In your second post, you addressed me with your questions and your condescending sarcasm-I merely obliged to respond out of courtesy to the profession.

Borrowing your own words, you can 'screw up'everything I said, but what would that reduce you to? Like the few notorious posters here.

Auf Wiedersehen.

On withholding of writers' fees:I do not see it as a scam. There was no 'scam' in withholding of writers' fees. No deception-there was notice given by the company as early as 30 May that all the written work of all the writers will be subjected to quality verification-performance evaluation and appraisal. Writers whose work did not have 'issues to be resolved' were paid. Holding in abeyance subject to a period is different from forfeiture of the fees.

Forfeiture of fees due to an alleged violation of company policy, should it happen later on, may or may not be arbitrary. If a writer feels that the forfeiture of fees is arbitrary-then dispute and contest it. The company is merely implementing its policies. These written company policies are deemed to have been accepted by a writer who continues to write for the company. Writers must comply with it. There is no compulsion-if some writers are not agreeable with the policies-then do not write for the company-there is a de-activation button at the web page. Those writers who "copied and pasted, "I am sure your accounts have been terminated like Ps2? Ps, that is why you are so bitter and 'sour graping.'

nota bene: To those who sent emails-my gratitude for all the support! At least I know that the biased and negative remarks here are not a reflection of the larger and greater thinking audience. I shall no longer revisit this forum; some posts have been reduced into such a shameful tirade of sorts.
nom_de_plume   
Jun 20, 2007

well.....the bottom line for ppl like nom de plume is that..........................essaywriters.net SCAM would remain a scam no matter wat ppl like u try :D.......

such a comedy! LOL
the circus with the monkeys has began . . .LOL

bottom line

and you are always in it. LOL

"I do not feel good about giving free lectures in a public forum"....well, wat this dopey is doing from yesterday then ?

Free lectures? Definitely not for you. Why you cannot even ascend halfway towards understanding it. LOL
There are many readers who are amused and can comprehend, believe me.

wat this dopey is doing from yesterday then ? :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Between your posts and mine, it is obvious who the dopey is. LOL

Expand your vocabulary . . .LOL. There are a thousand words you could learn--other than your over used symbols of :D :D LOL
We enjoyed the show--here is a penny.
nom_de_plume   
Jun 20, 2007

perhaps "nom de guerre" would be more apropos?

Malapropos lol.

Having a law degree, as I do, does make a subtle difference.

I dislike reading argumentum ad hominem but I will oblige . . .

Speak only for yourself-perhaps, your practice in probate and family law did make a subtle difference to you that is if you really are who you claim to be. And perhaps, a degree in law does not make a subtle difference for you but for someone with four more degrees, Bachelor's and post graduate in different fields(with the highest honors and much younger),it does.

LOL

But, you will make my point for me. How? You will answer your own question--believe me, every good lawyer can do that.

I do not agree with your second premise and therefore your conclusion, as well. Any good lawyer worthy of his profession does not make it easy for the opposing counsel by laying it 'on a silver platter.' ;-)

await your answer with unbridled angst.

I only feel but pity for people who would lose their dignity in a public forum, fighting tooth and nail over a few pennies. Bullying people who merely state personal facts is a crude way of fighting one's cause.

Far from me to cast doubt on your claims, and I look forward for you to post copies of your payment records, completed orders, and personal profile. As you know it is very easy to cut and paste these records for a download

Self contradictory. . . you destroy your own 'anticipated potential' evidence? You want these records to be posted and yet you discredit it? You would not want to hurt the feelings of a few posters here who claimed that messages with balance sheets copied and pasted and overwhelming 'evidence' in the archives of this site are 'credible.' LOL!

As you know it is very easy to cut and paste these records for a download--I have

You are free to exercise your prerogative to do what you please, but you cannot convince anyone to follow your prodding. LOL.
I am sure you know that can be properly produced with a subpoena duces tecum. But you need to apply for it in a pending court case and AFTER showing that these records are material and relevant to your cause of action.

Collection case? Generally, all you need to prove is the obligation and the non-fulfillment thereof. Evidence of payment of others similarly situated may be irrelevant or may even strengthen the position of your opponent ;-)

and once you have them posted all of these malcontents will know, once and for ever, how legitimate essaywriters--and you--are.

Fallacy of logical reasoning? Ignoratio elenchi?
Philosophy 101?

will know

we'll . . .

Now, regardless of all that underserved flack people seem to be heaping on you,

I am sorry to disappoint you. I am only 'affected' if the 'undeserved comments' come from people I deem as my EQUAL.

I do not feel good about giving free lectures in a public forum-I do it in the universities where I am paid quite well.

Again, I am sorry to disappoint you for not giving you the pleasure of ever thinking that you can prove "your point" here in a public forum. Unlike you, I have better cases to attend to and I do not wish to disappoint my post grad. students.

I feel that I no longer wish to further oblige and give this place the dignity of my presence and for a few posters in it--the brilliance of intellectual intercourse! LOL

you make sure you have yourself a DAMN good day, hear?

Enjoy your new courtroom, counsel!
LOL
nom_de_plume   
Jun 19, 2007

well.....I can understand

how can you ?when you have a reading comprehension problem! LOL

that you accept the 1 and 2 points

What are you on? Hallucinating?

by loosing writers and customers

Geez, where on the universe did you come from? Proper use of words:
Loose-- not rigidly fastened or securely attached
lose--suffer loss through the death or removal of or final separation from
Are you really sure, you are/were a writer? and were a writer at essaywriters? Come on, you are merely posing as one :-P
Losing writers? sure, the ones who were terminated by the company for CAUSE, i.e. violation of company policies, those who write inferior quality essays, etc.

Loose--something up there inside your head, loose nuts and bolts. ;-)
Company rep? ooooh! read previous posts. "If the thinking, discursive mind turns to speculation, the result is Fantasy." Stop hallucinating!
LOL
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger" LOL
Thanks for the amusement!

so nom_de_plume....100s of writers would stand against a SCAM like essaywriters.net but only an absurd like u would stand alongside essaywriters.net SCAM :D:D:D:D:D

Why do you not bring a court case?

According to a poster--overwhelming proof is available in the archives of this site. Whatever she meant by that. Let us see who among these anonymous posters are truly legitimate complainants?

I would like to see your 100s of writers.

Absurd? because there is no prejudice or damage I sustained? There were no issues, fees were always on time and fully paid. No charges of plagiarism--nada!

There was only one problem--that was when I came across some posts here--exaggerated and twisted information--not factual. I am not alone in thinking this way . . .a few posters expressed the same sentiment.
nom_de_plume   
Jun 19, 2007

As I have expected . . . when one can no longer argue intelligently with reason and logic and the LAW--she resorts to maligning the character of a poster.

Quite a usual practice here.

Intelligent people discuss issues and argue based on reason, the ignoramus rant defamatory remarks lol

Learn how to spell correctly "morron " etc. Your turbulent emotions show--it is quite pathetic to have 'affected' you this way.

You say 'unethical' company? Simply because it allegedly did not pay a writer because of poor quality essays she wrote. I call it 'performance appraisal'

I'll try my level best to associate the word SCAM with essaywriters.net, whenever some1 would say SCAM others would think of essaywriters.net SCAM and its affiliates :)

Be enterprising--see how you can get paid for it--ask around. LOL

doesnt know nething

and you call yourself a --writer, huh? LOL :-P

whenever some1 would say SCAM others would think of

. . . .hmmm, let me try . . . Ps2? LOL :-P
nom_de_plume   
Jun 19, 2007

none of the statements are changed

You do have a comprehension problem. Your statements are not worthy of belief--you simply cannot substantiate your conclusions. If you really were a writer thereat, I know why you are no longer one LOL.

A woman was awarded damages for having been defamed and called a scam in a message forum. You have grouped companies together and labeled them as scam. It is an alleged trade libel.

The questions aren't stupid-perhaps the one reading is. The exercise was simply to ask you and for you to give--your premises for your general conclusions. It is obvious you have conclusions but without premises. LOL.

Credibility? Chat transcript with rushessays staff:
"Please wait for a site operator to respond.
You are now chatting with 'Customer Support'
Customer Support: Hello. How may I assist you?
you: hi i would just like info
Customer Support: Sure what questions did you have
you: someone mentioned at a message forum that rushessays is the same as essaywriters.net?
you: is this true?
you: someone mentioned at a message forum that rushessays is the same as essaywriters.net?
Customer Support: one moment please
Customer Support: Sorry about that - no we are not the same company"

That is one--what about the others--shall they send you their corporate papers together with the summons?

Exhibit A, Your Honor!
nom_de_plume   
Jun 19, 2007

lets just dont say the "world"

'us' --You said it, I didn't LOL

but how about every1 who gets online and has an intention of using such writing services :D.......I'll try to convey to every1 that essaywriters.net SCAM

You have changed and twisted your previous statement:
Your previous claim: essaywriters.net is a scam and the 'world knows it"
your statement now is : you will convey to the world or every1 who gets online and has an intention of using such writing services that it is a scam.

A potato is not a tomato lol.

as for my other questions you still are elusive? And if we were in court, I could have compelled you to respond to the questions. If you refuse, you can be held in contempt.

But of course, we are not in court ;-) but who knows? :D :D :D :D :D
nom_de_plume   
Jun 19, 2007

essaywriters.net is a SCAM and the world knows it

Very unresponsive reply. I would say, it is evasive.

Do not implicate the 'world' in your statement. The 'world' cannot be held responsible for what you say.

According to your previous posts, you claimed to be a writer of essaywriters.net. Have you been a writer for all the companies you have enumerated, i.e. rushessays, superiorpapers.net, etc.?

Must be wonderful for you--workingfromhome?
nom_de_plume   
Jun 19, 2007

o how did you arrive at the (your own) conclusion that these companies you enumerated IS actually essaywriters.net, operating under different names?

What made you conclude that essaywriters.net is really a scam?

According to your statement--"many writers' salaries" were withheld--so were a few writers been paid their fees?

Are you a writer of this company? Were you paid already?

Based on your previous post that was deleted or archived, you were complaining of the withholding of salaries because the company would check the quality of the work of writers--commenting that 'what has quality control staff been doing all this time'?
nom_de_plume   
Jun 17, 2007

CDA provides that when a user writes and posts material on a website such as Ripoff Report, the site itself cannot, in most cases, be held legally responsible for the posted material.

In most cases. In ripoff case, Court found that out of 110 complaints posted thereat, only 11 were from true complainants. The rest were made up by ripoff staff. This established a designed plan--something like a 'conspiracy' for the accomplishment of illegal ends. There was RICO.

Other states penalize libel as a criminal offense--while others consider defamation as tort. There is a plethora of jurisprudence where parties were found guilty of defamation and libel.

Media laws is a complex field: issues of jurisdiction,liabilities of parties, i.e. distributorship, ISP, posters, nature of offenses etc usually entails in depth research from authoritative materials (such as the confluence of pertinent laws and court cases)and experience in the field.

Issue of jurisdiction--assuming arguendo that complaining party is not within the the 'jurisdiction' you were alluding to--it can still be filed anywhere--where the site was accessed and the defamatory contents read--as this is deemed 'publication.' (This includes hyperlinking).

There really is nothing to worry about if you are in good faith.
Establishing a site for the purpose of exposing fraud is noble even if you were a victim. Try reading the first (web) page of this forum--obviously, as stated --they set up this site because they too were victims.

What transpires after setting up is a new ball game.
Bye and goodluck to you!
nom_de_plume   
Jun 16, 2007

The message thread and message you posted earlier in the day has disappeared. Written in upper case letters and which contained an entirely different set of allegations of material facts. You even mentioned the member name of one of the posters here giving her advice not to write for them again. She claimed in one of her posts that she 'does not take peanuts for her writing.'

It gives rise to several implications.

They have placed many writers' salaries on hold for low quality meanwhile papers have been delivered to customers.

In the chronology of links for message threads, one is missing. People may have saved the 'missing link' already.
https://essayscam.org/forum/es/burned-affordabletermpapers-paper-due-monday-246/ Got burned, paper due Monday, now what?

https://essayscam.org/forum/wc/writers-done-again-salaries-hold-low-quality-245/2/ - Essay Writers has done it again

https://essayscam.org/forum/gt/new-blog-launched-243/ - EssayScams.com New blog to be launched
nom_de_plume   
Jun 16, 2007

Bogus-obsolete not genuine : counterfeit
Accusation-charge of wrongdoing
An adjective is a modifier.
And you did not get it. How shallow is your mind. I will spell it out for you:

They don't go together. You sound like a trying hard pseudo solicitor.


What joke of a school awarded YOU a degree?

Degrees in the best universities----while you got yours from the street. That is, if you call yours, a degree. LOL.

You refer to me as "Amy" and as "fat"--neither of which are true--yet you have no problem leading people to believe each is a fact.

Poor envious you! People have independent minds.

Anyone who reads these posts recognizes the legitimate writer. Guess what? It's NOT you.

By YOUR standards? LOL. Do your 'reviews' well so that you can have a better life than the miserable one you may have now.
Now, I think you have taken so much of my play time. I was just amused talking TO an ill-bred and ill-educated creature like you. Your kind does not exist in my circles.

Try a liposuction that is after you save every penny you earn. LOL


Goodluck in the much anticipated subpoena.
nom_de_plume   
Jun 16, 2007

FAT proof in Ca. LOL

The origin: my post:
"What about your posts?

Look up the meaning of speculation and while you are at it-look up the meaning of detractor too. It is one of those labels you gave a poster here.

What do you know about evidence?

Quoting: WritersBeware, Post #38
It's pretty clear to me that Timmy works for someone who doesn't like ********* very much, or Timmy owns a competing site himself. At least other posters here provide some evidence if they make strong accusations.

----argumentum ad hominem, a fallacy of logical reasoning.

Enjoy your 'reviews'"


Your reply:
"Hey smartass, I don't need to look anything up. Do you think you are intelligent because you can type Latin phrases? Give me a break.

Show me ONE claim that I have made that isn't verifiable as fact"


You also said: "If you want to accuse me of posting things that are not truthful or verifiable, why don't you be more specific?"

Your ignorance is terribly pathetic. Your reply is not even relevant to the foreign words. Now you twist everything and claim proof to the strong accusations?

Utterly pathetic. Educate yourself about argumentum ad hominem. Not truthful or verifiable and argumentum ad hominem are two different matters--Inform and educate yourself-- Perfect evidence of how careless you are in concluding. Ignorance is the greatest sin.


You said:
"However, you posted strong accusations in a PUBLIC forum. You didn't send the accusations in a private message to me, personally. Therefore, I suspect that if you do not provide evidence, your bogus accusations will be removed and you will be banned because the owners of this site can't be held responsible for your libelous statements."

Bogus accusations? You do not use 'bogus' to modify accusations-Terribly pathetic. Your fat cells have affected how your mind process information and thoughts.
Acting Moderator? Argumentum ad bacculum-another fallacy of logical reasoning.
Owners of the site responsible for my alleged statements?-Read jurisprudence-your statements show ignorance. A person with a certain degree of intelligence would laugh at your statements. I do not do charity lectures.

You claim I am a 'nobody' ? Whatever 'bread crumbs' you are receiving to make you survive life is not even enough to educate someone to obtain one of the degrees I have earned. So further, sayeth naught!

You simply are not competent enough to intelligently discuss matters with me, so why should I waste my time on you here.
You simply do not know what you are talking about. Go on with your task of of bullying and bossing people around, Amy resurrected. Go on labeling posters 'idiot savants, nobodies, fraudsters and bogus." Definitely you do not have over 20 million dollars for damages but you have 20 years of life that you can spend in jail.

Between your posts and my posts, people will know who is educated and who is not.

Go on a diet.

nom_de_plume   
Jun 15, 2007

Major
My post:

District Judge after investigation found: the website (xx) posted more than 110 "complaints" from consumers. Investigation proved that only 11 of these postings were actually from customers. The balance of 99 reports was made-up by members of xx staff

I was referring to the ripoff case. The site owner was charged inter alia, with libel.
You tell me written sources---News ? that and the copies of court records.
I was never against posting legitimate complaints here.
One case, a man was sent to prison for 23 years for libel--blogger.
Another case, a woman was awarded more than 20 million dollars. She was defamed in a message forum.

libelous

as if you know libel! You have been posting hyperlinks--read court cases on that.

I can show you how libel is prosecuted in court--anytime from now.

Ciao.
nom_de_plume   
Jun 15, 2007

your credibility?

I do not have to prove anything to you!

Why don't you tell me what statements I've made that you would like me to support with further evidence?

Beg some more ! LOL

I knew you couldn't provide proof

Comprehension --I refuse not couldn't.

You accuse everyone of wrong-doing

You must be talking about yourself!

All these posts are evidence. I got you where I want you to be.
nom_de_plume   
Jun 15, 2007

You have plastered your ignorance everywhere. Latin is taught in J.D. Of course someone with an associate's degree, would not know.

My goodness, you do not even know how to interpret evidence. LOL

Pure idiocy,

I can excuse yours. Obesity constricts the mind. LOL
nom_de_plume   
Jun 15, 2007

Boohoo! the little brat is hurt and envious. Stop throwing tantrums.
Your challenge? I choose my challenges, you are not one of them. Why you don't even exhibit intellectual brilliance.
I simply refuse to waste my time on you.
LOL.
nom_de_plume   
Jun 15, 2007

a perfect example of how ill-bred you are (Amy personified) lose weight especially in the head.

WritersBeware, check you syntax and sentence structure ... Speculation ah such animal ! Impress you? You do not even understand a word.
LOL
nom_de_plume   
Jun 15, 2007

Warmest climes but nurse the cruelest fangs!

the tiger of Bengal crouches in spiced groves of ceaseless verdure. Skies the most effulgent but basket the deadliest thunders.

LOL

Envy awakens at the sound of a distant laugh!

Ciao!
nom_de_plume   
Jun 15, 2007

What about your posts?

Look up the meaning of speculation and while you are at it-look up the meaning of detractor too. It is one of those labels you gave a poster here.

What do you know about evidence?

It's pretty clear to me that Timmy works for someone who doesn't like ********** very much, or Timmy owns a competing site himself. At least other posters here provide some evidence if they make strong accusations.

----argumentum ad hominem, a fallacy of logical reasoning.

Enjoy your 'reviews'
nom_de_plume   
Jun 15, 2007

Absit invidia . . . perhaps a few would desire to hit the books, hit the court dockets for ripoff case/s and consult a lawyer. The lack of information and knowledge makes me squirm a bit.

Audiatur et altera pars.

Aeternum vale!
nom_de_plume   
Jun 14, 2007

Now we have 2007. In 1990 hardly anybody knew what the Internet and forums/blogs were. Since then the law has changed.

The law has not changed. The case cited is jurisprudence--a legal precedent. It has not been overturned yet by the high court. It is found in the U.S. Constitution Annotated. U.S. Supreme Court is tasked to interpret the Constitution--there are a lot of cases reiterating the dictum.

you only take the information from written sources

--not mere written sources--authoritative jurisprudence and the laws.
Not hearsay--not self-serving.

I even doubt you are based in the US

Where I am based is irrelevant and immaterial--knowledge, expertise, experience, skills . . do not have any territorial boundaries.
The mind has no limits--it is never limited by the size of the skull--to believe otherwise, would be to live a life of ignorance.

dialectical reasoning, Major.

if you were, you'd have a chance to listen to some other independent news and read newspapers.

U.S. is not the only country that has news on media. News reports refer to events but they never can substitute for the interpretation and implementation of legal precepts for order in a society of civilized men.

You see, with knowledge, expertise and skills that can serve as passport to everywhere.

news--for information
jurisprudence and laws--for peace and order in a society. Authoritative and binding--used to defend rights and prosecute causes of action.
nom_de_plume   
Jun 14, 2007

since we are on the page of opinion vs fact, Major---------

are they wooing old writers they've terminated to reactivate their respective accounts? i guess that's a sign that they really are losing writers! LOL.

Fact or opinion?

Fact verified: Reactivate account---Only for those writers who de-activated their account earlier and now are willing to join us again.
Literal interpretation: writers who de-activated and not company that terminated.
use of the word 'only' --exclusive

Fact or opinion, Major?

Those shady sites rip off way more students than essaywriters.net rips off freelance writers.

inciting? instigating? provocateur?--just asking

opinion or fact, Major? fair comment principle?
nom_de_plume   
Jun 13, 2007

You are putting words into my mouth and venturing on 'what I think' when you have twisted what I have posted.

but as far as ordering an essay or writing as a contract freelance writer the rules are much more reasonable and straightforward.

laws have territorial application so do not try to tell me that contract laws for essay writing are different.

We are not even talking about contractual relationship here. Read all the posts again.
Posters can bash and slander a number of essay sites but not the few protected 'sacred cows.' Different rules apply you can speculate and generalize against the not 'favored sites' and always get away with it even if it contains defamatory remarks but if you try to tinker with the sacred cows--posts get edited based on speculation.

If one dares post against the scared cow/s, some posters would gang on you and demand proof. A different standard of conduct applies anent 'bashed sites' --you can bash and slander and generalize all one can without fear of the application of the terms of use.

Writers of these bashed sites who dare post that they have been paid their fees would readily be labelled as company reps.
You can express an opinion if it is against the bashed sites but if it is something favorable to them--one should dare not speak. Talk about your democracy?

All in the name of unfair competition ?--read the Lanham Act and FTC.
The owner of the 'consumer'site alluded to earlier is being hunted down by the FBI perhaps you can research and learn more about how the court ruled in that case. Freedom of speech is not absolute.

With freedom of speech, comes responsibility and if it's exercise is tainted by other considerations --it is a different matter.
I am sure tides will turn and when the time comes--everyone will be required to face up to that responsibility and be held liable for its consequences.

When that time comes--everything relevant to the cause/s of action will be subjected to careful scrutiny by an independent and objective tribunal--registration papers, memberships, funding, addresses, considerations, interests . . .uniform application of terms of use, etc.

A few may have been identified already and perhaps the company/ies would choose to exercise their prerogative to deal with 'exaggerations' and defamatory remarks in court.

Perhaps, I do know more than what you think.

You referred to the 'disclaimer' . . .in the same light I would suggest to you that you revisit the AUP-Acceptable Use Policy of the web host company Re: Offensive Content

"is unfair or deceptive under the consumer protection laws of any jurisdiction, including chain letters and pyramid schemes;
is defamatory or violates a person's privacy;
creates a risk to a person's safety or health, creates a risk to public safety or health, compromises national security, or interferes with a investigation by law enforcement;

clearly infringes on another person's trade or service mark, patent, or other property right;
is otherwise malicious, fraudulent, or may result in retaliation against XX by offended viewers"
Violation of the terms of AUP can result in suspension or termination of the TOS-Terms of Service.
I think, one of the posters here mentioned that when an account is suspended--it means you failed to pay, you exceeded the limit or you violated the terms of use agreement or a combination thereof.

ciao and enjoy yourselves.

RE: opinion

Milkovich v. Lorain Journal Co. 497 U.S. 1 (1990).
Court held that there is no constitutional distinction between fact and opinion, hence no "wholesale defamation exemption" for any statement that can be labeled "opinion."
nom_de_plume   
Jun 12, 2007

It is what YOU think not me--our measures grow apart. As far as I am concerned I do not wish to argue with those who are ill-informed and interpret the laws based on their liking and affiliations. Have you heard of expressing facts based on personal knowledge?? Try to analyse and research a bit more.

I call your conjured kind of world --a jungle :-) so suit yourself.
BTW, it is summarize
nom_de_plume   
Jun 12, 2007

What about public opinions about the president being a m*oron or a chimp? Should they put such posters in jail?

It is his prerogative to file subject to judicial precedents on libel and public figure. Not comparable in this case.
If I subscribe to what you suggest then anyone can defame, libel and slander another. Why don't you start amending the laws.

They were charged by who? The party that is responsible for payment? I

have you heard of company policies, breach thereof, due process, administrative investigation, resolution of dispute?
have you heard of collection cases in court ?
Logic--who can withhold payment except the one who has the money and the one who is to pay under certain conditions.

cannot find a post stating that the writer admitted s/he wrote a poor paper and that was the reason s/he hasn't been paid.

Do your homework.

What if the companies doesn't care? I bet most of them frequent this forum and are aware of the complaints, but only a few bother to respond to the complaint.

purely speculative.
nom_de_plume   
Jun 12, 2007

Your previous post---"Fully agree with that. Whoever reads blogs or forums should keep in mind the information may not be 100% true."

Consistency, pls.

Read the posts--a few posters admitted that they were charged with inferior quality papers. Not YET paid the fees SUBJECT to resolution of the issue.

Complaints of students quite credible to me especially when the company replies and resolves the dispute.

But what about Indians milking goats? respectful? a complaint?
nom_de_plume   
Jun 12, 2007

If someone is able to determine the poster's true intentions, s/he should be awarded with the Nobel Prize.

facts, evidence, funding, registration, acts done in pursuance of a goal, etc Some of the posts here are just conclusions--a company is a scam simply because they have not paid yet your fees? Well, what about when you are charged with inferior quality paper? Has earnest efforts been done to settle the issue with the company--etc.

A complaint is credible if it contains the details and has specificity of facts and of incidents.
again intention? as I have said for instance --the website (xx) posted more than 110 "complaints" from consumers. Investigation proved that only 11 of these postings were actually from customers. The balance of 99 reports was made-up by members of xx staff.------------is this not evidence enough of intention?

partiality--conduct to protect a few and conduct to encourage bashing of others
There are technical ways to detect--ask law enforcement.
Ciao!
nom_de_plume   
Jun 12, 2007

But would you suggest that each and every message should be pre-moderated and investigated by a team of researchers and lawyers before making them to the public?

not necessary when posters are true and responsible and not when they are motivated by other interests. Courts come in to read their 'designed plan'

Taking it out of context: I maintain that the issue is the Admin's exercise of prerogative to delete and edit in one case but not in others which obviously are even defamatory.

I am not suggesting anything--res ipsa loquitur--I said (xx) I know that you are a part of the other forum as well--I would not dare hurt your feelings.

Auf Wiedersehen! I have better things to do.
nom_de_plume   
Jun 12, 2007

Freelancing PurposeFreedom of speech--sorry I do not intend to give charity lectures. With freedom comes responsibility. Maybe you can read the post again.

USA Today issues warning that bloggers are inaccurate forms of information.

District Judge after investigation found: the website (xx) posted more than 110 "complaints" from consumers. Investigation proved that only 11 of these postings were actually from customers. The balance of 99 reports was made-up by members of xx staff.

Read the terms of use on respect--read the first page of the site on slander. Please do not let me define defamation, libel, slander and opinion...

Do not take it out of context--I was talking abt the exercise of Admin.'s prerogative.

I am hoping for an investigation or that the investigation is terminated. Who knows the bashed companies may be banding together to file class suit like that which was done in another message forum--but that has a different twist--RICO.
nom_de_plume   
Jun 12, 2007

Taking the cudgel for the other site too? I agree that is supposed to be the purpose yet you have a hundred of posts here which contain defamatory remarks against people and companies, i.e. people were called criminals, scammers, Indians were asked to milk goats, posters were accused of being company reps or being paid to defend the bashed companies WITHOUT PROOF OR NOT EVEN BASED ON A DETAILED EXPERIENCE---that notwithstanding--this forum only chose to exercise its prerogative in editing and deleting that one company name based on speculation?

. . .a noble purpose.
nom_de_plume   
Jun 12, 2007

yeah, I have heard that. ...been the talk in the essay writing industry. But one or some of the members here would not agree with you (like in the last time). The most that they can do is remind you or threaten you with a court case. I just wonder if this is pursued--how would the complaint read when it describes--party plaintiff? something like a . . . a duly registered 'profitless' organization or like this message forum--a non-profit organization. . . then if it is duly registered--members and funding will be out in the open....that is IF it is registered. I heard that the laws require registration of non profit organizations...i just wonder if . . .

Admin, if you be more thorough--there are a lot of speculations here--such as when Writers Beware said that unqualified writers are taken in by essaywriters.net as this is a custom? Unless of course Writers Boo is the HR of that company.

OR when PS2 listed the scam sites as bestessays, essaywriters.net etc. when obviously based on her previous postings--she was/is a writer of essaywriters.net. How come she can include the other companies unless she also worked for them.
nom_de_plume   
Apr 24, 2007
Writing Careers / Stop Writing for essaywriters.net [340]

At no time did I belittle France or the French.

defensive stance, reminds me of someone. Reading comprehension. Nonsense? simply because you can't understand French drama.

I told you to take YOUR nonsense elsewhere. Unfortunately, you didn't heed my request.

and who are you to tell me what to do?! This is a public forum and any member can post his free thoughts.
Your argumentum ad bacculum does not work.

goes well beyond the level of "hearsay,"

Ignorantia! Research and read the law because to those knowledgeable your insistence calls for apathy.

my friend

sorry you terribly fall so short of what I define as friend.

you do not write for a living or have anything at all to do with essaywriters.net,

ah! reading comprehension brush up.

somehow find the deep desire to spend hours researchign the Internet and other forums in hot pursuit of quoted material to use against every essaywriters.net detractor who has posted in this thread.

One, how would you know my deep desire LOL!
Two, hours to spend ahhh! are you not the agent of the other forum. You have been posting links to that forum time and again.

Three, relativity--maybe with you you spend hours to research. Go and try to reasearch on hearsay.

against every essaywriters.net detractor

That is incriminating!! Four, you have tagged her as an essaywriter.net detractor. Calling on Essaywriters--there is your admission in plain view.
'against' Five, and thanks for doing it for me--the evidence of the post is incriminating against workfromhomemom.
Now, how would workfromhomemom feel -if she gets upset that means you lost a team member and if she welcomes the idea, then that establishes confederation--or maybe conspiracy?

personal enrichment

I don't need to be enriched, believe me LOL. And enriching to destroy my integrity--not my style contrary to some people here.

essaywriters.net to PAY writers, like you, to take the time to do exactly what you are doing now.

Essaywriters pay good writers to write essays but to post here I dont think so. I surely am not paid for opposing filthy insinuations like yours. Keep hiding behind your handle for safety from lawsuits. Such cowardice!sniff, sniffer.

You are so fixated on pay and money of people who say something true and good about the essay sites under attack here.
What is your interest here . . . you resurfaced after one's disappearance. Maybe continuing on the dastardly demolition job left? Again what is your interest?
I do not see typos in your post, please you are forgetting your intentional pattern.
No need to show your fangs. Try to send PM to your team now--call on them. I wont be here anymore to lecture you on comprehension, French etc. OR maybe the reason why you find it difficult to comprehend is the language I use??? Shall I write in French, Norsk, Italian, Spanish, German??

Do not address me in your posts--it really is not worth talking TO you. It stinks way out here.
Such a waste of my time.
Ciao!!
nom_de_plume   
Apr 24, 2007
Writing Careers / Stop Writing for essaywriters.net [340]

How would you know that you hold the same sentiments as your "fellow writers"? How would you know that they too are "deeply saddened, etc." by the posts of individual writers here?

And how would you know that they hold the same sentiments as yours? I don't see the majority here except for a handful. I don't see public complaints of the majority except your litany.

Most writers at essaywriters don't know a thing about each other so how can you speak on their behalf -- the "hundreds" of other writers working for the company? I know a three or four others working there

the above is based on your experience-very limited experience.
You registered as member of Essayfraud on March 14, 2007 and stated in your message there that you started writing for essaywriters just last Feb. So tell me, where did you get such audacity to continue taking orders, getting paid and at the same time with your alleged continuous destruction of the business reputation and integrity of essaywriters in a period of almost 2 months.

Your post at essayfraud on essaywriters last March 15
"Yes, I agree. There are many freelance writers searching for writing-from-home jobs over the internet, me included. But now I realized that it's a waste of time and resource -- electricity and other utilities, plus the fact that we sacrifice the time to rest just to get a project done."

More than a month now from that time and despite your alleged reason that writing for essaywriters was a waste of time and resources, you continued to write, continued to receive compensation and continued 'talking behind the company's back'? You call that ethical and upright?

BUT A HUNDRED?! LOL Unless you're the employer...

so clearly, you admit that it is a hundred! Sorry I do not have the privilege of being the employer. If I did I would never have accepted you in the company's fold.

Would freelance writers actually go to the extent of asking essaywriters' admin to "weed out unhappy and disgruntled" writers of the company? I still don't think so. Like the opinions of others here,

Do not twist what was written by misquoting the statement
'weed out unhappy and disgruntled writers and for cause'reads different from what you misquoted and Yes, freelance writers actually go to the extent to complain to admin. The termination of accounts may have been also a way to protect the organization from 'rust' slowly creeping in.

You've seen these changes recently had it not been for the posts here, honey. I think that prior to most of the complaints posted here, essaywriters wasn't doing anything :-)

Remark based purely on your self serving speculations. Do not patronize yourself. You cannot make me believe that these changes were due to your complaints. If it had been, shouldn't essaywriters be indebted to you for your constructive (sic) comments and therefore retain you in its fold?

The people who claim to be "owners" and "respresentatives" have had Ukrainian accents and writing styles. Many different people here have documented this fact. essaywriters.net may have formed an LLC in Virginia, whihc anyone on any continent can do, but the owners are nto physically located in the US. The owners didn't even sign their own LLC documents, from what I understand from Rat. They hired someone in the US to sign for them as a registered agent.

Hearsay evidence-your alleged 'documented fact' did not emanate even from expert witness.
Brush up a little on the law, you are looking foolish.

you're a writer for essaywriters and you see the number of available orders posted there everyday. If they had hundreds of writers, how come the orders posted there don't get taken? One essayscam member who signed up recently, Smandy, said it herself that most of the orders don't get taken at all.

You destroy your own premise. hundreds of orders but have you monitored each and every single order of hundreds-everyday? Why volunteer another? Are you not a writer there who may have monitored this every single day, every single order so that from your own observations, you can draw your own inference? How many times have you logged on a particular day, how long, how long after you logged in again. Writers take orders at random. Your conclusion does not have a leg to stand on.

nom_de_plume's post made it seem as though exchanges between her and other "content & loyal" writers take place regularly. she may know a few writers maybe, but i doubt she knows hundreds.

How do you know when you have only stayed with essaywriters for about 2 months? Doubt all you can that seems to be one of the two functions of your brain. The other being, striking down ideas and experiences of others as fallacy simply because these fail to fit it in your right and left lobe of the brain.

appreciate essaywriters' efforts to improve their company and it's a good move to resolve issues with disgruntled writers like me LOL,

be careful, you might be accused of being paid by the company for saying something positive about it!

but to have someone post something like nom_de_plume's is unbelievable.

I do not give a hoot about what your prejudiced mind would think as unbelievable.

she would have had posters here believe she was just a writer for the company without the backed-up-by-hundreds kind of talk.

why should I prove anything to you? With your 2 month period of contractual employment and only 2, 3 or 4 writers you know there-quite limited experience. Why would I prove anything to you--when obviously matters can't get through that skull of yours. These people you know, are they your cohorts ? co-conspirators?

Are private messages here sent so that you can gang up on persons who hold different views from yours? sniff, sniffers Ah, you wouldn't know that, would you?

This is another message you posted at essayfraud for a fearful essaywriter writer.

essayfraud/forum/index.php?showtopic=275

"There are many calls for papers over the Internet and maybe you can check them out if interested. Try "a cup of comfort" website. they have calls for papers till december this year. if your paper is chosen, you get paid a certain amount plus get published. I suppose that is better than working for essaywriters.net where you are less likely to get paid for your efforts."

And you call the above ethical? Upright? Professionalism anyone? Such treachery. 'Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools that have not wit enough to be honest.' You register as member, post a general complaint then wait in the dark for a prey and once you detect fear of not being paid by essaywriters, you recommend another site while you continue to take orders and receive compensation from essaywriters.

Essayer, were you the one complaining about my long message? You have the same right to post a message which may be equal in length or even longer than mine.

I have a lot of work to do than waste my time on bigotry.
This site is a real showcase for discovering who are the real professionals from the pseudos; superficial knowledge from wisdom, mere finishing a degree from being educated.

Writers Beware, you are a big disappointment!! You called French drama-nonsense? France is a wonderful country, have you been there?
'Ignorance is the curse of God,knowledge the wing wherewith we fly to heaven.'
Workfromhomemom, expand your experiences-there is a vast world outside, beyond the four corners of your home, the grocery, and the pharmacy. Expand your horizons--your posts are quite telling. . .

Here are some lollipops, do not fight over it.
I do not want to waste my precious professional time with kids here, a few. Sure, I am a legitimate writer and a whole lot more in terms of other learned professions and I do not fall under the category of some kids here. I do not write for a living that is why perhaps I do not understand why some people have to squeeze blood and life out of others for delays in compensation.
nom_de_plume   
Apr 23, 2007
Writing Careers / Stop Writing for essaywriters.net [340]

I will further oblige with a final post WritersBeware:

Wasn't it Beth who actually said that she was begging writers to post positive comments here?

Non sequitur! I am just in a quandary as to why you can't handle truth. One disappears --then one resurfaces on the 19 April? boy, your specie multiplies fast--reminds me of the gremlin movie. You do not even sound like a writer to me.

Since we are on your spooky page: ". . .bigotry and prejudice, ghosts though they are, cling tenaciously to life; they are shades armed with tooth and claw. They must be grappled with unceasingly, for it is a fateful part of human destiny that it is condemned to wage perpetual war against ghosts. A shade is not easily taken by the throat and destroyed."

Oh I just love French drama! That is Victor Hugo for you--I am sure with your magnificent brilliance, you would remember that, wouldn't you?

Bonne journée ! And don't try to get up, you look fantastic in that warm pool.
nom_de_plume   
Apr 23, 2007
Writing Careers / Stop Writing for essaywriters.net [340]

oh dear me, Hegel must be turning in his grave!

Let us find out what Thomas Jefferson has to say, "Bigotry is the disease of ignorance, of morbid minds; enthusiasm of the free and buoyant. Education and free discussion are the antidotes of both."

Goodluck to you, WritersBeware--your name sounds spooky! Boo! Goodbye and enjoy your waddle in your warm pool :-)
nom_de_plume   
Apr 23, 2007
Writing Careers / Stop Writing for essaywriters.net [340]

I have been writing for Essaywriters for quite sometime now. When I started writing for the company, I came across this message forum. The messages posted here created fear and agitation. This notwithstanding, I continued writing for the company and followed its policies. I enjoyed writing for the company's clients and tried my very best to understand the writing guide and their system. And with all the trust and good faith, I delivered and complied.

Until one day during the early part of contractual employment, an issue arose due to a miscommunication. It was no one's fault. Ordinarily with me, such a situation would have been met with understanding and patience BUT due to the gnawing fear that build up and was generated because of reading the messages here-of collective outcry of scam and bogus-it pushed me a bit over the edge-and I started doubting. But my doubts did not affect the level of professionalism I have in delivering the pending outputs. After delivering my last output for that time, I took several steps back to embark on my quest for the truth behind these messages.

Long after I found the truth, I can truly say that my opinion now of this company is based on solid facts and experiences. It was a blessing that I decided to stay on and be a part of its continuous growth. There are hundreds of us working as writers for this company. Some of us write, not for a living but for the learning experiences we get from interacting with clients, the company's support staff, and the varied and interesting topics we research and write about.

We are deeply saddened, hurt and some are even enraged by what we read. Maybe a few of us wrote the company requesting it to weed out those who are 'unhappy and disgruntled' and for 'cause' because of constant bickering and never ending dissatisfaction in the posts-some of which are part of the grand conspiracy to pull and drag the company down.

I believe in freedom of speech and of posting your opinions here but I also believe in exercising that freedom with due regard and respect to the rights of others.

It is claimed somewhere in the message thread that essaywriters have hundreds of orders but these are empty and are not actual orders. I would disagree because I clicked on many and found each to be in order. Maybe when you have logged in, the system was down. I experienced both. I logged in and the orders were empty. I logged in after 2 hours, the orders are posted.

The page that appears when one logs on to the website 'account suspended' is a technical failure as I have experienced that in the past. The company has notified the writers in their notices page immediately after- that the system was down a couple of times due to the fact that the company has increased connection 4 times. The explanation to issues raised here is all contained in the notices page in the administrative zone.

The company now has provided an email address of Ms Beth to assure that the sentiments and complaints of writers can be properly and immediately conveyed to management. Personally, I would want to avail of that mode when it becomes necessary rather than bring it elsewhere.

No organization is perfect as there would be mistakes, miscommunication and delays. I would meet those shortcomings with patience, understanding and professionalism. I have seen efforts of the company to improve and better serve not only its clients but the writers as well. The system was upgraded several times, means of effective communication between the writers and the company; the writers and the clients; between the clients and the company have been provided and improved; detailed policies that cover problem areas with clear penalties for every infraction.

My issue on revision has been resolved FAIRLY and QUIETLY using the company's established procedure and so it works.
There are instances when compensation was delayed but this delay was due to banking institutions or intermediaries. As long as the company sends the compensation on the date it is supposed to; based on its written policy; any delay caused which is attributable to these intermediaries should not be blamed on the company. This is based on the sound principle of fairness. The company should have stopped there but I have experienced the efforts to exhaust ways and means to shorten delays not attributable to it and expedite the remittances of compensation.

It is my opinion that the company is under no obligation to respond to the posts here for it has established already a mode for that purpose. It has regularly and faithfully responded to the silent majority (hundreds) of writers' concerns every single day through the established mode and in the same manner it has responded and obliged to a handful of writers who went public in this message forum. The company has exemplified the highest degree of professionalism in reaching out to everyone.

Whatever concerns which a handful of writers may have against the company; these are matters personal to you and the company. There are hundreds of us who silently do our jobs with much content and loyalty. We work for this institution because it has showed integrity and professionalism.

I would no longer visit these pages. I know that this post may fall on some people's sphere of doubts and paranoia. It is your decision to choose to waddle in your own pool of discontent. But always keep in mind that there are hundreds of us who rally behind this company and when the proper time comes and in the proper place if and when it decides to vindicate its rights, you will all read our individual written statements under oath. This message forum is not the appropriate medium for the majority.

I will all leave you with this:
A German philosopher , Georg Hegel once said, "The learner always begins by finding fault, but the scholar sees the positive merit in everything."