Essay companies rip off writers through the 'quality teams'?

It is a fact that without writers essay companies will earn nothing. Writers often only get paid 1/3 of the amount the customer pays. They work harder than anyone else at the company (often staying up sleepless nights). Us writers need to revolt and set up our own company that gives 2/3 pay to writers. Stop the writer rip-off. These companies are parasites that throw us away like trash. I don't care if these companies think we earn a lot (for a company employee). Who are they to say how much of our money we get? We deserve the majority of the customer's money and customers will agree. None of the companies tell you the qualifications of the so-called 'quality teams', so you can sometimes find yourself at odds with them. They believe these extra services are needed - this is not the case. If you can prove your qualifications to the client, and have a proven track record of giving in work on time, you should cut these people out. They can often be rude and stuck up any way, even if you're a good writer.

The problem is, setting up and running a legitimate company (that means paying taxes too) is not as easy as setting up a new email account under a fake name and credentials...


There are many writers from US-speaking countries that work on elance/freelancer/fiverr-type of websites and make as little as $5 per page. Self-rip-off?


Very few companies would get rid of an excellent and reliable writer (who doesn't lie about his/her credentials or location).


I think customers don't care how much writer vs company gets as long as they receive a completed order written to their exact specifications and by an established deadline.

MrX, good luck with that.

OBVIOUSLY, you're not working for any of the legit, American companies. They pay writers 50%+ and do not falsely claim to have a ridiculous, nonexistent "quality team" (the ONLY purpose of which is for the owner to come up with bogus excuses to fine you and steal your money).

Original amount of the paper paid by the client is $20-$30/page and writers cost per page is $10 depending on the urgency and complexity of the paper and if the paper is off quality, writer have to be penalized at lease half or sometimes in full amount of the price! Most of the time writers salary are given late as well.

Critical Spoof Escort Service, or whatever they've morphed into now, a supposedly-legit UK company, pulls this kind of "quality assurance" crap, too. You're promised a price, and then it's whittled down to nothing from "editors' fees." Before I quit, I asked what it took to become an editor... no comment from the cow in charge. I also work for an American company that pays me 22% of what they charge. I continue to do it out of a silly sense of fidelity, mixed with a little bit of self-conscious pity.

But just so everyone knows, it's not just an overseas thing. There are plenty of scumbags to go around, unfortunately, everywhere.

Because when it comes down to it, what's reputation in this industry, anyway? It's a race to be the cleanest in the cesspit.

Freelance is a best to get client without companies employee. Best service provider never rip because they do not compromise on services plus price .

I am fairly certain that most if not all essay mill companies are run by degenerates, regardless of the country in which they operate.

It is very important for a writer to provide quality essay to their customer o client. You cannot trust to any essay writing websites but it is fact without a quality essay writer the essay companies will learn nothing.

Speaking of learning nothing, how's the "business model" going over there in Kiev? Still based on train-station pickpockets?

I am a writer itself and I don't work for a company because I work for the clients. i think the writers job is very difficult and he or she must paid out a handsome salary for their work but the companies don't do this. So, try to work of your own. If you are a good writer you will not need any company you can find your client by yourself also.

Clearly . . . .

No arguing with that.

I am a writer itself. It can't get worse than that.

No amount of debate and discussion with an academic outsourcing company will have them dissolve their Q&A team.

This is the team that helps them rip-off the writers immediately after the paper is submitted and even before the client reads the paper.

This "team" is no more than a group of people whose job is to just cut and paste the honest work of the writers into a software program looking for faults. Where no faults can be found, they will make accusations up.

These accusations will be based upon trumped up charges that the company has set into place for their own personal gain. Charges such as "lacking word count" or "redundant use" of a certain word, or even the overuse of the word "the", believe it or not. These quality teams can't even write a single coherent English sentence, much less paragraph and yet the writer is supposed to bow to their authority.

They act as automatons who are reliant solely on the software checker of the company.

They are worse than brainless overseas call center agents. Wait, scratch that. They are just as bad.

So it seems the 'Quality & Assurance(?)' teams of foreign writing services work like a sales team on 100% commission. That would justify their dishonest / fraudulent operations; the money they steal from writers goes into their own pockets. The more imaginary problems they find, the more money they make. The funny thing is that those Q&A people are often English-illiterate (they rely on the buggy software only), so it adds to the insult.

Yes this is true. Really Hard to be a writer.

You speak the truth @Major. These scam companies even hire software developers to create programs that suit their needs. Which allows them to find faults and fines in every paper that is submitted. The fact that they demand that the paper be submitted 4 hours before the actual deadline, then ask that the writer remain online for the same amount of time, just in case the QAD found any "editing problems" that required immediate attention. These actions were done "in order to avoid future revision requests", which we all knew wasn't the case. After all, they already delayed paying for the paper by 2 weeks in case of refund requests and/or disputes. Sometimes I think they faked the refund cases in order to keep the full amount for themselves. I had instances when I would try to contact the client via the PM system in an effort to dissuade the client from proceeding with the chargeback and my messages would magically disappear from the system in a matter of minutes. The the QAD team would contact me and demand that I let them "handle" the situation. Which was code for "we're keeping the money and you can't do a thing about it."

This is new information to me. Haven't heard the scam goes this deep. The price, however, pays no one but the writer - poor soul! 😞

I had some experience with a company in the beginning of my career, back in the mid 2000s. That time nothing like that happened. Probably, those were the developmental years for such technology. Whatever, but it's sad that some con artists can rip hard working people so easily and get away with it completely.

The third rate academic outsourcing companies are the ones that claim to have a "QAD". I have known of one Ukrainian company that has a QAD composed of the unemployed relatives of the owner. These are his uncles, cousins, friends, nephews, nieces, and anyone else in the family who is too lazy to get out and get a real job. Why do that when they can pretend to be employed in a profession, through a relative, and collect their salary by simply pretending to know anything about the English language? Since they rely mostly on Copyscape for their proof-reading, they don't even bother to check if the program is functioning properly or not. I mean, nothing beats a human review of a research paper right? So these non-English speaking idiots penalize the writer for stupid reasons such as using the word "the" in a paragraph repeatedly which we all know is fine since that is the basic connecting word of the English language. Not for them though. They penalize the writer for the dumbest and most illogical reasons stemming from the review of an automated system. That is why I am of the opinion that they haven't the faintest idea what "quality" means when it comes to their profession.

I disagree with some of the views expressed here.
Not all Quality Assurance Teams are put in place solely to invent faults.
Many forum users don't understand just how bad the work submitted by most ESL writers is. Just read the posts by Adamcontentwriter, Vernonbarth, and DavidWilliams to get an idea. In most cases, the writing is worse than is depicted by this trio of geniuses.

Now, many ESL sites rely on writers of such caliber to deliver hundreds (if not thousands) of pages a day. For them it's a numbers game. They (the writers) are working almost for free, and are submissive to whatever unending demands are placed on them. This kind of labor is a great asset to these sites.

The problem is that even an apathetic customer from an ESL country can't accept the crap prepared by these writers. And since the sites can't act right and employ competent writers, their only alternative is to employ a few fairly-able editors/mentors/proofreadersto polish up the work and make it somehow presentable. These "editors" are both cheap and still incompetent, but their edited work is sufficient to fool most of their employers' customers. Given that the editors' pay is fully covered by (only part of) the penalties applied to the original writer, the ESL sites are not losing anything by having both divisions. They are actually gaining from the balance from the fines to the writers after the editors' cut.

Understanding that the majority of companies that claim to have a QA team really don't or they are, as one poster said, relative of the owners or other biased people, there are a few companies that do have real unbiased QA personnel. I used to work for one. Their role was to look at issues objectively, reviewing the order requirements against what the writer provided. If the work met the requirements, the writer received his/her full pay and an explanation was sent to the customer along with his/her options for revisions, etc. If the fault was found to be a writer error, the writer was given the change to correct it (unless it was too late). If the writer refused (rare but it did happen), then that could be bad for the writer (i.e. indicates poor customer service and risk for future orders), the company would get another writer to help. Most often, the issues were minor and could be easily and quickly remedied. In cases where the QA team found in favor of the writer and the customer wasn't happy, that would lead to other issues, but for the most part, the team worked hard to see what the truth was and to apply the best practices to make it right for the writer and/or the customer.

It's a shame it's not like this with all companies, but it does exist in a few -- or at least it used to.

I have a QAD team in place to check my writer's work. However, they are limited to ensuring that the written paper meets the instructions of the assignment and the writing quality meets the demands of the client. They do not request writer's to do unnecessary revisions. They are instructed to deal with the "grammar" issues at their level, before the paper goes out to the student. The student should only come back to us to place a new order, not to request for revisions regarding content, grammar, or formatting.

I expect the QA editors to be able to spot these potential problems before the paper goes out. If they fail to spot a potential client revision / refund issue, the QA editor assigned to the paper misses a salary credit, not the writer. The writer is still expected to correct the work though. The editor knows the company has a 3 strike rule. That's the number of times an editor can fail to properly assess a paper before the client receives it. Do it 3 times and it's, "Sayonara job!"

I won't keep you on staff because you cannot do your job. The writer delivers the paper, your job is to make sure it meets client requirements. If you can't do that, why should I keep you on the payroll? No, it isn't the writer who should get the penalty for work that QAD was created to do. They back up the writers. Only if the writing is so off tangent should the paper be returned to the client for revision.

That is why I do not believe that QAD teams are a rip-off. They are meant to keep the writers on their toes. Their job is to keep track of the writer's work quality and then report that to me at the end of every semester so I know which writer to boot out of the company. It is because the QAD team is not properly utilized by the companies that they receive a bad reputation.

Sadly, the companies that claim to use quality assurance teams to ensure the high level of writing for their clients are still running that con on the few students that they actually get to sign up for their service. The poor writers work hard for even lesser pay than ever before, only to lose out to QAD that kills the paper even before it reaches the client for review. The paper becomes bad because QAD meddles with the final product that the writer originally created. Sometimes, the quality of the paper is out of the writer's hands.