High quality papers to terminate essay cheat companies. United writers starting a writing service?

Hi Students
To terminate essay cheating by essay 'companies', we have decided to form a group composed of ex-writers to offer students excellent and affordable writing services. Please if you need a high quality paper, contact us on @yahoo (If our quality is poor, we refund your money).

kind regards
Just writers

So, to terminate cheating by essay companies you are going to form your own company - very clever, I bet no one else thought of it before you :-)

Funny.

Wow, I'm sure that everyone is absolutely jumping at the chance to avail of your woefully unqualified, ESL writing "service." What a JOKE.

"kind regards." hmmm, where do I hear that all the time?

Oh yeah, it's how EVERY SINGLE ADMIN at UVO signs off. Those aren't ex-writers at all; they're greedy Ukrainian administrators. Weird...

this must trymedave's 11th account on this site

I didn't know we had a brigade of lunatics on this website.....WB was surely one, Akuma has become the latest to join that league......

I only contact companies with @msn email account because they are the most serious.

Why? Is this because these accounts are free? Or because you believe they are connected to Microsoft?

:))))))))))))))))))

Nah, I was being ironic.

What about "google.com"? Doesn't that make MoronDave all the more attractive?

You know...that is something I don't get (and of course I don't trust...) that the admins of a site use a free email account from gmail or yahoo. Most hosting service sites will give you at least 1 free email address to use, if not 10. Why not look more business-like and official by using the domain name, i.e. customersupport@justwriters?

They are all fly-by-night charlatans, that's why.

seeing just writers promoted himself on this site can i put my email down as well lol! And im a genuinely honest writer

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Writers here - do you think writers should unite and start a writing service?

I would suggest some of the best writers here can begin their own writing service and ask for fair fees from customers and also maintain their own financial interests. come on if you are writing an essay every day and helping hundreds of students to get hundreds of degrees you are probably a genius and deserve better than getting horrible HR treatment or low pay by a bunch of halfwits who employ you

Um, if you're qualified, you can get a job with one of the LEGITIMATE companies. They offer high, on-time payment.

WB - i know you talk about legit companies. but even legit companies pay writers only 30% of the fee they get from customers. I worked with a company that specializes in preparing course materials from schools, they are also an agency and mediate between customers (in this case, schools) and freelance writers. they take 30% of the fee amount as agency fee or commission for getting the jobs for writers and writers are listed on their list and they give specific jobs to specific writers, just like essay writing companies. The only difference is they take 30% and pay the writers 70%, they treat writers like clients as well, this is how it works in 'proper' writing industry. whereas in the essay industry it is just the opposite, there is massive exploitation and companies pay 30% or lower to writers as a small fee for doing all the hard work and they keep the big chunk, as if they are the ones doing all the work and writers are simply junior workers.

I'm sorry, but you are quite incorrect. You obviously have not worked for any of the truly legitimate companies in the essay industry. They pay writers 55-70%.

Guys, I think you are both wrong. The % that is being paid to the writer depends on the many different factors, including the volume of orders, thus revenue company receives. Every company needs to cover its costs. With large volume company gets more profits and can reduce prices and/or pay more to the writers. With small volume less money are left, so prices may be higher or writers may be paid less.

This is pure economics, works for every industry and really, has nothing to do to how legitimate the company is.

No, I'm not.


Yes, it does. Legitimate companies are willing to take losses to keep the finest writers in the industry happy and under contract. Also, the % does not change. It's actually a set payout per page, which does not change, regardless of the numbers of incoming orders.

WB, companies change, from time to time, business strategies and their pricing policies. And this is when prices and % can change.

Once again, this is true for all industries, not only essay writing :)

Unless you show me proof that the legitimate companies have changed their pay schedules, your position does not hold water.

WB, it seems we are talking in different languages :)

I am talking about basic economic and business concepts. EVERY COMPANY from time to time will revise their strategy and pricing policy - without this is impossible to operate. This includes how much company is wishing to pay to suppliers. This is NORMAL.

Talking about essay-writing. **** has been raising their prices for current "49.99" service for a few years now. WHY? Because they were RECONSIDERING THEIR PRICING POLICY to incorporate inflation and etc. There is nothing wrong with this - every company does it.

The word "legitimate" means "Being in compliance with the law" (thefreedictionary.com/legitimate).

If one company is charging more than another does it make it non-compliant with law? Same thing with paying suppliers.

Therefore LEGITIMACY of the business and how much it is paying to suppliers are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS!

Words have multiple meanings. It also means "authentic" or "genuine." A site that is NOT "authentic" or "genuine" may still technically operate within the law. If a site claims to be based in the US, but is actually in Ukraine, the site is NOT "authentic" or "genuine."

I know for a 100% FACT that the top, legitimate, American companies do NOT lower their standard payouts to writers, regardless of behind-the-scenes circumstances. They have long-time, dedicated writers on staff. Lowering their payments would be both ethically inappropriate and a very poor business decision that would lead to the best writers seeking employment elsewhere.

Bottom line: the legitimate companies pay their writers 55-70% of the customer's total payment. With the remaining 30-45%, the companies have to pay all of their operating costs (which can be quite substantial) before actualizing profits.

Hey...
Raising some interesting questions here. Is anybody skilled in IT here? Knows how to manage and set up a website? I could share my experiences, since I used to work for an essay company.

Well.....I have the resources to manage and set up a site, but, is it that simple?
I mean, how does one go about managing SEO and site rankings?
Isn't that necessary in this business?
This is what I have guaged from my research so far!


And....how should I begin if I want to get a job with such a company?
Please could you help and inform me?
Thanks:)

what about offering to write first then make us pay? or at least a minimal sum as deposit first. because i don't think anyone would really be able to trust i you are legit i guess.

Sorry, but that's just not how the freelance writing business works.


That's why you should only choose an old, established company.

Much too risky ... what if the customer takes the work and runs? As WB stressed = it's not how it works in this industry (or practically any other).

That's not workable for writers because if we don't get paid, we're out all that work with little recourse. Even if we're local, it's just not practical or worthwhile to worry about suing in small claims court for a $50 paper or for a few hundred bucks; if we're not local, it would be even less practical to have to travel to remote areas to pursue it. All that does is shift the risk entirely to the writer instead of the student. Someone has to take a risk, at least on the first transaction.

That's why I've always suggested that you limit your risk by placing only a small order with any new company or freelance writer, as a test of honesty and also writing talent. You could also just order an Introduction or an outline for a longer project and just prepay for those few pages before you decide to trust the writer with the entire project. That way, your only exposure is the price of a few pages. I've even had customers pay me for 10 or 20 pages at a time for a 100-pg project, which is fine. If a writer refuses that arrangement, that should be a red flag. You're much less likely to get ripped off by a writer who already provided good work once because most of the scammers don't plan to do any writing after they get your money or they just provide horrible work the first time. I don't think there are too many scammers who specialize in doing good sample work so they can rip you off on bigger projects.

On our end, writing before payment just isn't safe and we wouldn't be able to make a living if we had to take that risk on every project and worry about chasing down payments after the fact. Actually, the only 2 times I've ever been ripped of was by long-term clients who had each used me very regularly for several years. Both times, I'd let them pay me after the work sometimes because they were using me so regularly. They both just stiffed me on their very last assignment and one of them owed me for 2 or 3 papers. Since then, I never start work until payment is received, even for long-term clients, and there are no exceptions. I'd much rather not get the work if a client can't trust me than risk wasting my time working on a paper for nothing.

so it is a full time payment before the writer starts to write?
But what about paying half the price first and then the other half after the assignment ends?
Sorry to be bombarding you guys with my questions.

No problem. If you mean prepay for a few pages at a time and then prepay for the next few pages after the first part is satisfactory, that's fine (at least with me). If you mean pay for only some of the work and then pay for the rest after receiving the entire project, that's no good (at least for me) because we have to take the same risk anytime we do any work without prepayment. If you decide to stiff us on the second part, there's nothing we can do about it and we're out all the time and effort we put into it. Also, we can't keep customers honest by posting about our experiences the way customers can.

So it's possible to write the first few pages first (of course already paid) and then if it's satisfactory, I could continue to get the rest of the papers (of course also already paid by then) later?

How long does this take in your opinion then? By the way, I've sent you a PM, could you email me back regarding the message? Thanks alot! ^_^

That is how most of us probably do it but I can't speak for anybody else. I'd definitely avoid any writer who refuses that arrangement since you're taking the risk and the worst case scenario for them is that you don't use them again based on the first few pages. Any writer who demands full payment for a long project when you're offering to prepay for a sample is probably trying to set you up to rip you off on the whole thing, in my personal opinion.

hmm.. okay, so I presume that most writers have a standard format of double spacing and times new roman font sized 12?
There is not much difference is there?

Oh and regarding the thread starter's post, if a paper is poorly written, do you think those writers would actually do a full refund in any way???

It seems quite impossible to me that some would.. no offense to anyone though.

One-inch margins are standard, at least for legit companies and writers.

Avoid any site or person who charges by-the-page and types in Courier (or "Courier New") font face. Courier eats up easily 10% more page space than either Times New Roman or Arial. So, for a "10-page" order in Courier New, you'll receive at least 300 fewer words than you would from a company or person who types the paper in Times New Roman.

Chances are whatever work you receive is representative of the writer's ability and style. If you get a poorly written paper, you probably want to find a different writer altogether. If you're dissatisfied in any way by any work you receive from any company or freelancer, about all you can do keep writers honest is complain about it publicly right on this forum. There are many things that are prohibited here, but that's one thing that I'm sure is allowed.


Kicking myself for all the times that student have used Courier in their outlines and essay questions where I changed it all to TNR out of habit. The companies who use me all use 12-pt TNR, but you can always request any other font or style as long as you're willing to pay for any extra work that it requires, such as 10-pt font (same goes for requesting single-spacing, too).

That's true! Not to mention many times customers don't use their real names.

ABCwriting, i think out of business now, used to ask for .5" margins, TNR 10pt, single-spaced. i think they paid around $3 per page. took one look at their specs and ran. don't remember if they were .com or .net. anyone know where they at now?

IMHO the companies that charge the high prices are usually the legitimate companies.