essaywriters.net new scam (charging writers $50 for writer transfers?)

NO NO NO~ DO NOT WORK FOR writers.ph a.k.a. essaywriters.net / essaywriters.com

Let me tell you about the sad case of my friend who worked there...

she is now waiting for and check this $574.90 and $ 61.40 from her work for dec 15 to Dec 30.

she was terminated before the end of dec 30 because of her handler.
she was absent a day after christmas.
they used this as an excuse to "let her go"

apparently, using all capital letters for writing to customer support was one of the things also hahahaha CITED as a reason to terminate her.

but be that the case, my friend is entitled to her earnings.
What is even sadder is that she already had earnings up to March 2008. the amount quoted above is only for two weeks of work.

she wrote very well, thank you....

We're going to the police soon. We can't get to the service Ukrainian owners (get it? the Miss Yucks)
but we can get to their Filipino dogs...yes, they are dogs. Dogs acting like managers and handlers.

don't heed this warning and be sorry you didn't.

thanks. y'all have a nice day.

I think I know why your friend was terminated. One, she may have been excessively rude. You can always complain and whine and do whatever makes you happy as long as you keep it in a professional level. Or you do it in a forum like this one. Two, she had plagiarism complaints. Her earnings for a two-week period gets paid after two weeks. That means, those that were moved to March contained texts that could be found on other published papers. How she writes is not a question, it's simply the amount of the so-called "plagiarized" texts. Plagiarism could be unintentional, you know.

To be fair to Essay Writers, their representatives are helpful and not rude. As you've noticed, we've waited two weeks to get paid. And we got paid. It's probably because we knew how to properly demand what's our due.

If we could all be professionals in how we deal with the writing agencies, there'll be world peace. LOL. ",)

and there is 'unintentional' rudeness
but it shouldn't matter since someone already called the owners " criminals"

and there's really nothing wrong with sounding rude if you're talking to people who
work for criminals.

these writers didn't know they were talking to criminals.

then it would have been a case of intentional rudeness.

who pays you to defend the company?

that's what you probably got paid for.

go defend them, as you wish.

i read my friend's messages, SMS and email and the lot. we're friends.
they weren't rude. they were all justifiable.

she actually already submitted an article for the PDI about our old "employers."

PDI online also.

So there. if she doesn't get paid she still gets to keep her dignity. It is not as if she is just going to keep quiet when like the saying reads " why not go national?"

professionalism is relative, especially when dealing with no-good doers.

but then again, there is a professional way of dealing with writing agencies which behave under an illegal code.

they get their names splashed on national dailies and on tv.

its not a waste a time, compared to the "class law suit" action that other writers here are demanding.

you only defended essay writers you didn't defend writers.ph

writers.ph doesn't need defending.

you guys are going to get such bad karma.

This is so funny. :D I read your stuff from the AccessEssays thread as well and I had quite a laugh. Why do I get the feeling that this "she" that you're talking about is actually a "me"? >.<

ah natuwa ka pala, EW_Writer. buti naman na napa-haha ka rin.
kasi kami rin, natatawa sa inyo. "We" at essaywriters diba, kamo?

bakit kasi marunong ka mag-basa ng IP address? huh? hi-tech scammers, hmmmm?

eh sa mga open ang mga bahay namin sa isa't-isa, eh? problema mo? hindi kami
" tawagin niyo rin kami sa pangalan na..." " itago niyo ako sa pangalan na: damien,
irene, ann, tracy, at ang paborito naming si maggie.

umalis ka nga dito, para 'to sa mga complainants, hindi para sa mga nag-scam na fake.

sa bagay, tumawa ka lang, dito ka lang makakatakas eh. mag-isip ka nga...
gusto mo bang maputulan ng dalawang kamay, para...

sino bang #1 na "me" ang akala mo, ha? diba walang special treatment, so...why would you assume that someone was specially hurt?

translation:

ah so you found it funny, ei? well that's good to know, that you were able to say a haha.
since we likewise find you guys funny in a sardonic way. you cheat your workers and you monitor their rants and raves?

you did write "we" at essaywriters, right?

why? because you know how to detect IP address(es), hmmmm? but our houses are open to one another, what's your problem, huh?

we're not like you guys who hide under different names and go by different names: damien, irene, ann, and our good, good, best favorite, maggie.

could you have some grace and not get your kicks from reading posts here? this site is for complainants. not for those who scammed people. not for the fakes.

no, go and laugh, on second thought. since you can get away with it here.
but only here, hopefully.

could you like, think for a bit?
what if both your hands were cut off so that...

who would be the #1 'me' that you assume is the me here? if there's no special treatment in the scammers company, why would anybody be specially hurt by this?

added:

we were all, equally, scammed.

are you some kind of invincible god? reality check: you're not.
and thanks to this: we're seriously contemplating " do unto others...."

(christian ka pa naman....kunwari- M.L.)

Oh thank God there was a translation. ^_^ Errm... forgive me if I don't explain what I posted. #1, I've got quite a few orders to take care of. #2, your English hurts my eyes. #3, I'm sure the rest of the people here understand who I meant by "me" (well, at least the rest that count). ^_^

Hi! I'm also working for writers.ph. Did you get your payment from them? I was supposed to get it this Jan 1-3.

The original payment term stated in my profile was through xoom (since it is included in the payment options). When I asked about the delay, they told me that they already forwarded my payment details to their accounting department, for verification. So, I told them that it's okay and then I asked for an estimated pay date. They then told me that they can't give me that info, but they are trying to hasten the process.

And so, I gave them additional information about my bank details, with the hope that it can help them, somehow.

The next time I checked my account, they altered my profile and changed the payment details from "xoom.com" to "Wire Transfer to Philippines". I then keyed in new details for the Wire Transfer, and sent them a message asking for advise regarding which payment option was the best.

They then told me that xoom.com is no longer a payment option for writers in the Philippines. So, apparently the only option I have is the Wire Transfer. Aside from that, I 'm back to where I started- waiting for the accounting department to verify my payment details.

I don't know if this whole process is part of a scam or not. Is it? How many of you have been paid by writers.ph? And, can you possibly tell me how many days will it take the accounting dept to verify the details, based on your experience? Thanks so much. Answers will be very appreciated![b][/b]

Just what I thought. Accused again of getting paid to defend Essay Writers. LOL. Really, you're funny. Did you actually read all the previous posts here? And you know, It'd would help your cause if you'll make your posts more, er, readable?

It'll be interesting to actually see you make good of your threats. :)

And yes, EW, you don't need to explain the "me" in your post. I wonder why emjay seemed confused. ",)

@Cas: While many people claimed to have been scammed by Easy Writers, which I think is the "parent" company of Writers.ph , some of us here have been receiving payments, albeit some delays. I also had the xoom to wire problem that caused my Dec. 15 payment to get paid on Jan. 3. Waiting for two weeks to get paid was alarming, more so because many people were saying bad things about EW.

As for the verification process, it takes 24 to 48 hours. Everything is actually written on the system guide portion of EW's site. I don't know if Writers.ph has the same facility.

I have been writing for writers.ph for a month now. I have not received my first salary for January 1- January 3, 2008. They deleted my xoom account details and my wire transfer information was set as the primary salary transfer.

I checked with my bank yesterday if I received any payments and they told me that there is none. I will check again next week.

I have been sending messages to writers.ph regarding my salary transfer. I'll see if what happens next.

@pepi:

It always helps to be assertive in a good way. As you've said in a post in a different thread, antagonizing them might not help you at all. I agree. There are different ways to win. Being foolish is simply not one of them.

I feel sorry for those that haven't received payment from writers.ph. I really hope you all get your due.

TO PEPI: Hi! would just like to ask. Have they verified your payment details already? Thanks

@margie

Did you get your earnings in your bank already?

:(

Imee: Not yet. I'm positive it's going to be this week. Cheer up! :)

@Cas yes, writers.ph verified my account details a week ago.

Is this site any good?

@Imee and EW: The Dec. 15 and Jan. 1 payments are already in my account. :))

@margie

wow! good for you! i just checked mine no money yet, maybe in a few hours... keeping my fingers crossed!!! ;)

Hi

Is essaywriters.net the same with writers.ph? I have been working for writers.ph for 4 months now. Delays are absolutely natural and inevitable; probably, its one of their basic problem. Moreover, topics are really hard and lowly paid right now.

Then again, I still haven't received my payment for January 1-3. I hope it arrives this week.

Going back to the question, is essaywriters.net the same with writers.ph?

Thank you very much

I think they've got the same owners.


It'll probably reflect in your account first thing tomorrow. :)

Hi

Margie, do you work for writers.ph? I mean, do you also get the same rate per page as $1.4 to 2.8? It's really low compared to other writing firms such as academia. Does Essaywriters.net offer higher rates compared with writers ph?

Thank you very much

@kian91919

writers.ph parent company is essaywriters.net - they got the same orders and same layouts as well as customer service

@margie

my friend already got hers in the bank. now i'm calling my bank. i hope my details are correct *sigh*

calling bank:
no answer:
arghh

hi

I talked with the writers.ph manager here in the Philippine office. They told me that the payment should arrive this week. I am always positive with their payment system. Guys, don't loose hope. Payments maybe delayed but at least they pay.

Still haven't got mine but I know it will arrive this week.

Thank you

To all EW Concern:

Can you help me with this?
my bank is Equitable PCI but now merged in Banco De Oro
As I inquire with my bank they only give me Swift Code and the routing number which according to them that's the only thing in need for money transfer.

Can you give me a sample on how to fill this up. It will be a blessing if you help me. I'm badly need my payment in essay. Thank you very much.

Payments type Wire Transfer for Philippines
Beneficiary bank identifier: Swift BIC [?]
Beneficiary bank address:
The ABA number of your bank's CORRESPONDING BANK in the USA: [?]
Intermediary bank identifier: Swift BIC
[?]
Intermediary bank name:
Intermediary bank address:

Hi

Actually, you only need the swift code because these data are already from the company themselves. This is their instruction to me regarding this concern.

Dear ********,

For wire transfer Philippines, Just provide us your name on the account, address, account number, account currency, bank name, bank branch, bank address, bank identifier which you can get the details from you bank. filling up the intermediary bank is optional. With regards to your payment, with the details you already have provided the payment has already been sent and we advise you to wait for 3-5 banking days in receiving your earnings.

Best regards,
Damien Floyd

Dear *********,

under ABA information please put any combination of one number (like 11111 or 77777).

Thank you.

Best regards,
Anna Grahm

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So basically, just put something like this and message the support team for your verification. I would prefer online chat or their landline contact details in Makati for further assistance.

Beneficiary bank identifier: YOUR BANK SWIFT - Contact your bank
Beneficiary bank address: Your Bank Branch address
The ABA number of your bank's CORRESPONDING BANK in the USA: 77777
Intermediary bank identifier: Swift BIC
Intermediary bank name: 7777777
Intermediary bank address: 777777

No. I work for essaywriters.net. The lowest I've seen at EW is $2/page, but only occasionally. Most of the orders I've taken are priced at $8-$14 per page. If writers.ph offers $1.4/page, then EssayWriters definitely pays better. The highest at writers.ph is only $2.8/page? The highest priced order I've seen at EW was for a linear regression assignment. It was for $26/page.

hi

margie>>>> If that is the case, do you also get paid if you write in essaywriters.net?

Thank you very much

You're the one who took that? O.O You're awesome.

I just got paid as well. ^_^

just b/c i've disagreed with you in the past does not mean that i'm antagonistic against all ESL writers. this is a rude statement cloaked as a compliment.

Yes. The only time payment was delayed was in December.

Hi

margie>>> how long have you been working with essaywriters.net? I just submitted my application with them. I wan to know their background if they really pay their writers. What can you say about the scam issues accused by other writers towards this firm? Are they true?

Thank you very much for your replies

No, it's not a rude statement (and no, I won't contest it any further than that). I never said that you were antagonistic with ALL ESL writers. However let us not forget that months back, you were all for asking us ESL writers to just "write for our own country" where we both know that there are hardly markets for what we do.

I'm certainly glad for the recent influx of competent posters from the Philippines. Their presence here has most certainly curbed the sentiments against ESL writers writing for American clients. ^_^

Hi,

According to my earnings report, writers.ph already sent my payment. I wish I can get it soon. Usually, how many days does the process (wire transfer) take? Thanks!

oh, bs. i never said that. i have said that for all writers, ESL or EFL, it's a good idea for anyone to write for companies based in their own countries b/c it ensures that writers being cheated have a legal response to lack of payment. it's advice that i myself follow and that doesn't make me anti-EFL, does it? i don't know what nation you're from and i don't know the state of your domestic market, nor do i really care. of course, given that an increasing number of essay companies are reaching out to markets outside of the US and the UK, unless you speak more particularly about a nation, I think that the trend is moving toward a larger market in other nations as well. but then, that is just speculation at this point.

i've also said that writers shouldn't lie to their customers and that's applied equally to EFL and ESL writers. and i do want all writers, EFL and ESL, to stop working for crappy companies that don't treat their writers appropriately b/c doing so would improve working conditions for everyone, but that's just the optimist in me.

and i've actually said complimentary things about ESL writers. things like


and this


and i have also attacked fraudulent companies b/c i honestly believe that they hurt the reputation and image of ESL writers, which i explained when i wrote this:


all of those quotes are pro-ESL writer.

i think i've disagreed strongly with four people on this forum, period - you, julie (an EFL writer) and those two sexist morons whose names and countries of origin aren't worth remembering. that doesn't make me anti-ESL. i'm not antagonistic against ESL writers, as this thread demonstrates, and you saying that i am is just obnoxious and untrue.

That's my point. The thing is, the only place where there is a good enough market for term paper mills is the first world. Look, may I just repeat that I never said that you were ALWAYS against ESL writers and I don't want to fight. I didn't mean to offend you by what I said and if you were offended then I'm sorry.

Actually I am not an EFL writer. I actually had to look up to see what EFL stood for but finally found it as English as a Foreign language. I am born and bred in the UK so English is my mother tongue. In fact I have never stepped foot outside the UK not even for a holiday (how sad is that)

I actually don't do writing as a living I work for the police and do online tuition and proofreading though I did dabble with essay bay recently with interesting results as you all know.

I can speak a tad bit of french and german if pushed as i did A levels in these at school.

hey julie - i meant EFL as English as a First Language, compared to English as a Second Language (ESL). I remember you're from the UK =) sorry if I was unclear.

ew - thank you.

Phew I thought for a minute there I had been transported to another continent lol

I had to check my surroundings

Thats fine Lavinia, Its easy to confuse me believe me especially after the day I have had today. Am feeling rather low at the moment and do not like the latest case I have been handed but I guess its just a job.

I could save the tax payer a wad of money and sort the defendant in this case out for them at no cost. Believe me it would be a pleasure giving him what he deserves. I guess sometimes my job sucks and today is one of those days.

Following is the actual conversation that I had with writers.ph earlier today.

"Walker" = Me
Daniel = essaywriters.net rep
Susan = essaywriters.net rep
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Walker:
I am interested in working for your company, but I can't find any proof that you have been in business since 1997.

Call accepted by operator Daniel. Currently in room: Daniel, Walker.

Daniel:
Which proof are you looking for?

Walker:
I've looked in your Whois records for writers.ph. Your site is new.

Operator Daniel has invited Susan to join this conversation. Currently in room: Susan, Daniel, Walker.

Susan:
hi

Walker:
Hello

Walker:
I already asked a question of Daniel.

Walker:
Are you not going to answer?

Susan:
sorry, i do not understand what you are talking about

Walker:
I am interested in working for your company, but I can't find any proof that you have been in business since 1997.

Walker:
I've looked in your Whois records for writers.ph. Your site is new.

Walker:
I'd like to see proof that your company is 11 years old before I apply.

Susan:
ho are writers.ph?

Susan:
who

Walker:
Are you kidding? writers.ph is your own site, on which I just clicked the "Live Chat" image.

Susan:
you are talking to essaywriters.net

Walker:
OK, so you own writers.ph.

Susan:
no

Susan:
we do not

Walker:
So writers.ph is somehow using the exact same Live Chat service as you, as well as your personal chat account?

Susan:
i do not know what you are talking about

Walker:
I clicked on the LIVE CHAT image on writers.ph, and you answered.

Susan:
i do not understand what happened

Walker:
writers.ph hacked you, stole essaywriters.net's unique chat username/password, and then used your chat system on THEIR site? That's a lot of trouble to go through just to bring business to another site.

Susan:
i can not help you with this problem, as i do not understand what you are talking about

Walker:
OK, one more time: I clicked on the LIVE CHAT image on writers.ph, and you answered. What is there to not understand?

Susan:
we are essaywriters.net

Walker:
Either you own writers.ph, or writers.ph hacked you system just to be able to bring you business.

Walker:
I just want to know which it is.

Susan:
we are essaywriters.net

Walker:
Either you own writers.ph, or writers.ph hacked your system just to be able to bring you business. Which is it?

Susan:
i have informed IT

Walker:
I would still like proof that your company has exited since 1997.

Walker:
existed

Walker:
Providing the address of your office in the Philippines would be a start.

Susan:
we are USA based

Susan:
we can continue our conversation if you are interested in working for essaywriters.net

Walker:
Yes.

Walker:
Your essay site, superiorpapers.com , also states that you have been in business since 1997. I would like to see some verifiable proof of that. There are too many fraudulent writing site these days.

Susan:
we can continue our conversation if you are interested in working for essaywriters.net

Susan:
i know nothing about the sites you are talking about

Walker:
I am interested in working for essaywriters.net. Any legitimate company would answer this question as part of the application process.

Susan:
you can find our application form on the web.site

Walker:
Why can't you show my proof that you have been in business since 1997? You state that on your own sites.

Susan:
which siteS are you talking about

Walker:
superiorpapers.com

Susan:
we can no longer continue your talk.It you are interested in working for other on-line companies, please contact them

Susan has left the conversation. Currently in room: Daniel, Walker.

Walker:
Thank you for the confirmations, CROOKS!

Daniel has left the conversation. Currently in room: Walker.

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Anyone who continues working for essaywriters.net and/or writers.ph deserves to be vigorously pummeled with a rotting baboon carcass.

Tsk tsk tsk....

Well, EW (whoever they may be) has sent me my Jan. 15 payment a day ahead of schedule. Not one of my clients was dissatisfied with my work, and I'm paid early. I'm a happy writer with happy customers.

Bring on the baboons! :)